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| 17:56.36 | eightyeight | ~linux |
| 17:56.36 | infobot | Was hackmii installer also made in Linux? |
| 17:56.51 | youtah | <3's Linux with all his Covfefe |
| 18:01.20 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/Zcz6Zhn.jpg |
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| 18:48.14 | romanovic | would use linux on his MBP if $employer supported it |
| 18:52.26 | romanovic | apparently there is an underground movement of supporters trying to gain influence. For now all developers make a show of using the latest macs, but use macports and homebrew to approximate a linux environment as closely as possible |
| 19:12.58 | TodPunk | That is literally what all Mac developers that aren't working in xCode on OSX/iOS software do |
| 19:13.23 | spangborn_ | Lots of iOS/MacOS devs still use homebrew |
| 19:13.53 | TodPunk | Mac is the linux env that you don't have to worry about the OS of (but you should, but most of them are web devs and couldn't if they tried) |
| 19:14.30 | TodPunk | watches Node overwrite his 'which' command |
| 19:14.57 | TodPunk | Oh, that's not a problem on Mac? Huh. Weird! Wonder why they thought it would be a fine idea then... |
| 19:14.59 | TodPunk | /s |
| 19:28.52 | romanovic | we should make some alterations to the Joel Test. "Do you use the best tools money can buy" could instead be "Do you use the most expensive/shiny tools money can buy" |
| 19:33.10 | TodPunk | "Do you know what your own tools do?" |
| 19:37.07 | jlp_znc | https://teespring.com/stores/trump-covfefe |
| 19:37.20 | jlp_znc | good ol' internets |
| 19:45.32 | youtah | jlp_znc https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s261x260/18765684_10213419249379898_8482106009941575372_n.jpg?oh=3889c19b574be47c21f7a61872029c8c&oe=59AD0B5E |
| 19:46.21 | youtah | This one is my favorite https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18700252_10154610551726485_891382989011955362_n.jpg?oh=fdf5c801b234a658d39052312f843f58&oe=59B1832E |
| 20:05.00 | jlp_znc | oh, the names people name their children these days |
| 20:06.03 | jlp_znc | like "Jan" wasn't bad enough. imagine trying to teach your teacher how to spell Phyllon Gorr |
| 20:06.17 | youtah | or Covfefe |
| 20:06.33 | jlp_znc | well, everyone will know how to spell covfefe by tomorrow |
| 20:06.35 | youtah | Actually, everyone in the country knows how to spell "That" now |
| 20:07.07 | youtah | I just hope that Covfefe becomes a legitimate word now |
| 20:07.23 | youtah | because that's like, worth, 20 points in Scrabble |
| 20:07.35 | spangborn_ | Did you see Merriam Webster's tweet about it? |
| 20:07.41 | youtah | No! |
| 20:08.08 | spangborn | https://twitter.com/MerriamWebster/status/869782666572443648 |
| 20:09.12 | youtah | OMG, that... all of it... amazing. |
| 20:56.48 | TodPunk | programmerq: come give us a lightning talk June 14th =cP |
| 20:56.55 | TodPunk | We'll feed you pizza! |
| 21:04.58 | spangborn_ | Trailing off "Lookups for covfefe" |
| 21:05.38 | spangborn_ | Whoops, meant to PM that |
| 21:06.42 | spangborn_ | Clearly didn't pay enough attention to where notification was coming from |
| 21:07.54 | TodPunk | spangborn_: why are you two? |
| 21:08.11 | spangborn_ | Playing with a new IRC client and still have IRCCloud connected |
| 21:08.33 | TodPunk | ah |
| 21:08.36 | TodPunk | what client? |
| 21:08.44 | TodPunk | Just tell me it's not implemented in Node |
| 21:08.51 | spangborn_ | lol it is |
| 21:08.52 | spangborn_ | https://thelounge.github.io/ |
| 21:08.58 | TodPunk | asd;fjagfpou3q8-0puhtae;oi3w90[jbgfso;jiae5gja3AE%Y#$Q^ |
| 21:09.16 | TodPunk | throws spangborn_'s Mac through the window |
| 21:09.45 | spangborn_ | Does it help that it's running on an Ubuntu box? |
| 21:09.51 | TodPunk | no |
| 21:10.20 | TodPunk | "I've got a thing that works. I should explore replacements that are an affront to all that is holy in the tech universe" |
| 21:10.29 | spangborn_ | hahaha |
| 21:10.33 | spangborn_ | Well, I have a reason |
| 21:10.37 | spangborn_ | IRCCloud is blocked at work |
| 21:10.44 | spangborn_ | Self-hosted IRC client is not |
| 21:14.20 | TodPunk | Have you considered working somewhere more sane? Or Quassel? |
| 21:14.50 | spangborn_ | I have definitely considered working elsewhere |
| 21:50.51 | straya | quassel is dope\ |
| 21:51.10 | straya | it also has a node based webclient :P |
| 21:51.34 | straya | https://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver |
| 21:58.40 | TodPunk | Reminds me about this talk on Yavascript: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript |
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| 22:02.06 | programmerq | TodPunk⸠There is a small chance I will be out of town on that date. Otherwise, it should work just fine. Whould I be the only speaker? |
| 22:02.39 | TodPunk | I'm sure we'd find another lightning talk if you're keeping yours to such. |
| 22:30.33 | programmerq | I would like to be able to say that I /could/ do something longer than a 10-15 minute talk, but preparing stuff is going to be difficult. |
| 22:31.14 | programmerq | If anything, I figure I can just open a text editor and dictate a few lines of code, and show the user interface for the voicecode stuff. I could probably even answer a few questions. |
| 22:31.56 | programmerq | That would take minimal preparation for me, which is good. (unfortunately, I have to limit how I spend my time on the computer, even with the voicecode stuff) |
| 22:34.40 | TodPunk | So can I put you down for possibly 15 minutes if you're in town on Wednesday the 14th at 6:30 PM at LDUG via Adobe? |
| 22:39.18 | youtah | eightyeight, your thoughts on bcrypt? specifically in regards to htpasswd |
| 22:39.26 | youtah | I found out quickly, don't set your cost to 30 |
| 22:40.16 | youtah | well, at least if you want your machine to return sometime this year at least |
| 22:44.38 | programmerq | TodPunk⸠sure thing |
| 22:44.53 | eightyeight | youtah: heh |
| 22:45.08 | eightyeight | youtah: yeah. don't do 30. 10 is probably fine. 12 if you're really bored. |
| 22:45.24 | eightyeight | youtah: bcrypt is good, and should be chosen for htpasswd files |
| 22:46.08 | eightyeight | youtah: you should probably benchmark the cost though, and see what you can afford |
| 22:46.37 | eightyeight | youtah: each increase by 1 will double the time it takes to calculate the password hash |
| 22:46.52 | eightyeight | youtah: so 6 is 2x slower than 5, and 7 is 2x slower than 6. etc. |
