IRC log for #utah on 20160824

01:25.55TodPunkInteracting on the internet is so hard sometimes xD   https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/4z2m41/silicon_valley_sucks_at_training_software/d6tuo23?context=3
01:26.38TodPunkI greatly enjoyed trying, though.  Probably more than I should have.
02:43.12klys~slashdot
02:45.25klyscurious if instapaper will be more or less expensive
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15:51.31spangbornGoogle Fiber live in SLC!
15:52.46eightyeightlink?
15:54.42spangbornhttps://twitter.com/BenWinslow/status/768462963044814849
15:57.06eightyeightdowntown is covered
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16:15.35youtahI feel like this was made for jnbek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7QQKQyVAUg (metal belly dancing)
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16:15.47jnbekuhoh
16:15.56eightyeighthah
16:15.57eightyeightheh
16:15.58jnbekI'll have to check it in a bit :)
16:15.59eightyeight:)
16:16.01eightyeight?
16:16.43youtahall I know is that my entire core would be rediculously tired after a single song
16:17.49eightyeightyoutah: that's aweso me
16:18.18youtahyou can all thank reddit
16:18.26jlp_zncyoutah: I like the shaky cam... like the metal is making the room shake
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16:20.44youtahhttp://i.imgur.com/7z9bT6p.gifv
16:21.04eightyeightyoutah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfXGg0SLo0c
16:21.18eightyeight(more of what i think of in belly dancing)
16:21.39youtahyeah
16:22.33youtahyeah, I think I would die after something like that
16:26.48youtahhttp://i.imgur.com/fgqYabo.gif
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16:38.17RyanEgood core workout.
16:38.40RyanEI think that's what harleypig does for his core workouts.
16:40.05eightyeightin a thong
16:44.02youtahI think you meant, "wearing thongs"
16:45.31eightyeighthe needs more than one?
16:49.07TodPunkyoutah: that makes me SO angry
16:49.26youtaheightyeight, one for each foot
16:49.36eightyeightheh
16:49.38eightyeighthah
16:49.40eightyeight:)
16:49.42eightyeight?
16:49.42youtahlol, what makes you angry TodPunk
16:49.45youtahlol
16:49.52TodPunkdoesn't look like the guy is even slowing down
16:49.57TodPunkI hope that was staged
16:50.03youtahoh yeah
16:50.08youtahthe kid with the airplane
16:50.13TodPunkkid doesn't seem upset about it at all
16:50.23youtahcomplete jerk
16:51.37eightyeighti had a guy flip me off driving the opposite direction in my neighborhood
16:51.51youtah100% out of the blue?
16:51.53eightyeightneither of us were doing anything outside of safe driving
16:51.55eightyeightyeah
16:52.05eightyeightjust going the opposite direction, and gave me the bird
16:52.08eightyeighta grown adult even
16:52.11youtahteenager?
16:52.14youtahoh nm
16:52.18eightyeight40s, maybe
16:52.23TodPunk"adult"
16:52.23unummaybe it's your ubuntu license plate, he's gentoo user
16:52.35eightyeighti got rid of the ubuntu license plate a few years back
16:52.40eightyeightit's a ham radio plate now
16:52.45TodPunkstill, flipping someone off isn't bad compared to running over a kid's toy
16:52.53eightyeightindeed
16:52.56eightyeightjust... strange
16:52.59unumI was going to come up with something about ham radio, but I got nothing
16:53.30eightyeightunderstood if i was doing something to piss him off. but i was in my neighborhood, just driving up the street, minding my own business
16:53.32eightyeightshrug
16:54.08eightyeighti'm curious if he mistook my car for a previous experience he must have just had with someone in a car like mine
16:54.16eightyeightthat's the best i can come up with
16:56.33youtaheightyeight, was it one of these guys? http://i.imgur.com/nBkwmik.gifv
17:00.29eightyeightheh
17:00.30eightyeightheh
17:00.32eightyeight:)
17:00.34eightyeight?
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17:15.39spangborninfobot: Welcome back
17:15.39infobotback, Sup yo?
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17:20.41SunSparc~uptime
17:20.51SunSparc~status
17:20.51infobotSince Wed Aug 24 17:17:37 2016, there have been 0 modifications, 2 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 2 commands.  I have been awake for 3m 14s this session, and currently reference 119599 factoids.  I'm using about 79164 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 2.07/0.1 child 0/0.01
17:21.36SunSparc~seen eightyeight
17:21.38infoboteightyeight is currently on #utah, last said: '?'.
17:22.40eightyeighti won't kill it again, but that bug should certainly be fixed.
17:22.42eightyeightheh
17:23.05eightyeighthah
17:23.07eightyeight:)
17:23.09eightyeight?
17:23.10spangborn?
17:23.46eightyeighti pm'd infobot to get the hehstats, hahstats, etc. privately without spamming the channel (and unnecessarily highlighting nicks)
17:24.15eightyeightwhen you just `hehstats' in pm, it returns `total count of heh on _default: 0'
17:24.19jfindlay~lolstats
17:24.19infobottotal count of lol on #utah: 2144.  Top 3: youtah -- 1036 (48.3%), keldwud -- 115 (5.4%), Q_Continuum -- 63 (2.9%)
17:24.23jfindlaynick highlights
17:24.25eightyeightso i ran `hehstats #utah', and it crashed
17:24.38youtahlol
17:24.42eightyeight~hehstats #utah
17:24.42infobot#utah has said heh 0 times (0.0 %)
17:24.49eightyeight~hehstats eightyeight
17:24.49infoboteightyeight has said heh 511 times (31.3 %), ranked 1/119 (percentile: 0.8 %)
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17:41.56jlp_zncat least it auto-restarts
17:53.01SunSparceightyeight: Better let TimRiker know. :)
18:05.30SunSparc~seen TimRiker
18:05.41infobottimriker <~TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #infobot, 17d 20h 53m 24s ago, saying: '~chaninfo'.
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18:59.26jlp_zncTimRiker has been neglecting his irc duties.
18:59.34jlp_zncwhat's he doing, working or something?
18:59.36jlp_zncsheesh.
19:01.22spangborn~chaninfo
19:01.22infobot125/125 channels, 4890 users, 3731 unique: #debian/1727, #kde/496, #gsoc/286, #asterisk/211, #devuan/178, #maemo/172, #wowuidev/167, #oe/134, #wowace/104, #neo900/80, #wowhead/63, #cubieboard/63, #harmattan/61, #utah/57, #bzflag/51, #meego/50, #arm-netbook/49, #qi-hardware/48, #curseforge/44, #asterisk-dev/43, #maemo-ssu/42, #openmoko/41, #openmoko-cdevel/41, #webos-internals/40, #elinux/35, #brlcad/27, #uphpu/27, #slug/25, #sporewiki/21, ...
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19:11.01klystimriker, have you tried to join #freedos yet
19:12.28jlp_znchey, look, it's TimRiker!
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19:32.35TodPunkshhh, don't scare him off
19:41.45mindjujuhi all, in the market for a server rack, preferably with side panels and lock in utah county
19:51.00SunSparcmindjuju!! :)
19:51.13mindjuju^5 SunSparc
19:51.23SunSparcYou
19:51.34SunSparcYou have been a busy guy recently.
19:52.13mindjujuhow you've been bro?
19:52.25SunSparcjlp_znc: throw a pokeball at TimRiker before he gets away.
19:52.54SunSparcmindjuju: Doing very well. Just took the family to Lake Powell for a week. Had a lot of fun there.
19:53.03mindjujui have yet to install that game, but i hear good things
19:53.17SunSparcmindjuju: Don't do it, it's a trap!
19:53.34SunSparc:)
19:53.41SunSparc~:)stats
19:53.41infobottotal count of :) on #utah: 1711.  Top 3: goozbach -- 277 (16.2%), eightyeight -- 154 (9.0%), fozzmoo -- 106 (6.2%)
19:53.49eightyeighthah
19:53.51eightyeightheh
19:53.53eightyeight:)
19:53.55eightyeight?
19:54.21SunSparceightyeight: You trying to catch the goozbach?
19:54.23goozbachdang
19:54.25goozbachhah
19:54.28goozbachheh
19:54.30goozbach:)
19:54.32goozbach?
19:54.40SunSparc~?stats
19:54.41infobottotal count of ? on #utah: 578.  Top 3: goozbach -- 139 (24.0%), eightyeight -- 68 (11.8%), youtah -- 47 (8.1%)
19:55.11SunSparcIs that an indicator of who is the most confused?  ;)
19:56.10goozbach~goozbach
19:56.10infoboti heard goozbach is the reason harleypig realized he is cisgender
19:56.24goozbach~goozbach
19:56.24infoboti heard goozbach is easier to catch than a retarted sasquatch
19:56.28harleypig*blink*
19:56.35spangbornHah
19:56.37spangbornHeh
19:56.38harleypigwtf is a retart?
19:56.38spangborn:)
19:56.40spangborn?
19:56.47goozbachit's a retarted sasquatch
19:57.06harleypiga recycled tart?
19:57.09spangbornIt's a refurbished Sweet Tart
19:57.09jlp_zncI think you mean retarded
19:57.14jlp_zncas in, braked.
19:57.24jlp_zncor... only half braked?
19:58.07goozbachhalf braked or retarted
19:58.25jlp_znc~youtah
19:58.25infobotMmmm Bacon
19:58.36jlp_znc~trump youtah
19:58.36infobotACTION orange frosts youtah's hair
19:59.10spangborn~youtah--
19:59.13spangbornOoops
19:59.31jlp_znc~karma youtah
19:59.31infobotyoutah has karma of -22
19:59.39SunSparclol
19:59.45jlp_znc-22!  that's a poor karma for a drink of water, that is.
20:00.04SunSparc~youtah++
20:00.34SunSparcI think that sasquatch need to be tarted again.
20:00.45spangbornWhat a tart he is already
20:00.51SunSparchands another poptart to the sasquatch.
20:01.05jlp_znc~tart spangborn
20:01.05infobotACTION grabs her fully automatic pop tart gun and fires a hot stream at spangborn
20:01.10jlp_zncwoot!
20:01.15SunSparc:)
20:01.26youtahah thanks SunSparc
20:01.27SunSparcTartWars!
20:01.29jlp_zncI didn't think that would work
20:02.19SunSparcyoutah: I know for a fact that most of your negative karma is undeserved and thrust upon you by haters. ;)
20:02.33jlp_znchaters gotta hate
20:02.39SunSparcright?
20:02.46SunSparc~right?stats
20:02.58SunSparc~seriouslystats
20:03.11SunSparc~haters
20:03.19SunSparc~hate haters
20:03.19infobotHey sunsparc, ,,|,
20:03.26SunSparcLOL
20:03.29jlp_zncheh
20:03.31jlp_znchah
20:03.35youtahyeah
20:03.37youtahyes
20:03.42youtahI have fallen victim to trolling
20:03.43jlp_zncwhat's the moron count now!?
20:03.50klys-1
20:03.50jlp_znc~stats
20:03.50infobotSince Wed Aug 24 17:25:12 2016, there have been 0 modifications, 7 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 5 commands.  I have been awake for 2h 38m 38s this session, and currently reference 119599 factoids.  I'm using about 83088 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 23.85/0.5 child 0/0
20:04.04SunSparc~moron
20:04.04infobotsomebody said moron was someone that types long lines starting with "infobot"
20:04.28SunSparcdares someone to moron the infobot.
20:04.29youtahthere was a specific individual who remain unamed, that saw that my Karma was at (a legit) +6 and waited for a late evening and sunk my karma out of ... who knows why
20:04.44youtahwho will*
20:04.52jlp_zncand that individual's initials are.... ?
20:04.57klysha.
20:05.08SunSparcjlp_znc?
20:05.20jlp_zncno, I would never do that.  youtah is my friend.
20:05.27youtahi looked in the logs
20:05.29youtahI know who it was
20:05.45jlp_zncyoutah is my very "special" friend.
20:05.52SunSparclol
20:05.56jlp_znc~special youtah
20:05.59jlp_znc:-(
20:06.05jlp_znc~special
20:06.05infobotsomebody said special was http://onyx4.dhs.org/feed/oz/
20:06.19jlp_zncoh, I don't know about clicking that link
20:06.23jlp_zncmoves the mouse
20:06.31SunSparcjlp_znc: It is a dead link.
20:06.37jlp_zncbummer
20:06.49jlp_zncthat makes me sad
20:06.53jlp_znc~sad jlp_znc
20:06.53infobotACTION shakes her head sadly at jlp_znc
20:07.38SunSparcinfobot: give jlp_znc a poptart
20:07.39infobotACTION gives a poptart to jlp_znc
20:11.07SunSparcmindjuju: I do not know of any server racks currently available, but definitely drop a line on the plug mailing list.
20:13.47klyswhy are server racks so expensive on www.pricewatch.com
20:14.29Migsmy wife's grandpa died last week, and no one told her family until after the funeral
20:14.31Migskind of messed up
20:15.14klysyeah
20:17.14klyshttp://www.pricewatch.com/price/cases_and_accessories/rack_42u
20:19.12klyshttp://www.pricewatch.com/price/cases_and_accessories/rack_24u
20:21.30youtahthat is pretty bad
20:22.10jfindlayhow many u's do you need for it to be good?
20:22.21klys12 maybe
20:22.24youtahat least volume 11
20:25.26RyanEguuuuuuuuuuud.
20:29.45jlp_zncyou need 42.  42 is the right number.
20:29.57jlp_znchow many roads must a man walk down?  42.  see?
20:32.23SunSparcDoh! The TimRiker got scared off again.
20:47.26jlp_zncaww
21:29.15youtah:(
22:22.16youtahwe have over 500 members in the Utah Ham Radio Operators Facebook group
22:24.47Migslolnerds
22:25.36youtahthere's a difference between nerds and geeks
22:25.41youtahgeeks have social skills
22:33.23TodPunkso Migs was correct
22:34.00youtahnaw, we socialize and talk all the time
22:34.04youtahthe reason you wont get your license
22:41.56MigsI think anyone who feels obligated to point out the difference between nerds and geeks, is probably a the former
22:41.58TodPunkPretty sure I won't get my license beause it would be useless for me to do so, especially when I don't have time or inclination to galavant into the hills and play with spiderwebs to maintain infrastructure that won't likely matter much.
22:41.58Migs*probably the
22:42.42TodPunkIf it makes others happy, great.  Pretending it is anything but a niche hobby is not so great.
22:43.09youtahsomeone once told me "ham radio isn't for everyone"
22:43.19youtahas I have discovered over the years, they are so so right
22:44.37TodPunkShockingly, it used to provide more value to the average person, and thus was more popular.
22:46.09youtahShockingly?
22:46.30youtahit's also not a dying hobby
22:46.36youtahthere are more and more people signing up each year
22:46.44youtaherrr.... getting their license
22:49.51Migswhat's the process to getting your license?
22:50.00TodPunkThere are more and more people doing EVERYTHING, because our population has doubled in the last 60 years.  Numbers of people doing a thing aren't relevant or meaningful as a measure of popularity or sustainability
22:50.16TodPunkThere are more and more people playing with VMS
22:50.20youtahthis is at a much greater rate than doubling every 60 years
22:50.24TodPunkVAX VMS specifically
22:50.53youtahMigs, you need to take a test administered by one of the various groups that is allowed by the FCC to administer them
22:51.27youtahW5YI and ARRL are two of the most common ones
22:51.45youtahand you dont have to do morse code anymore
22:52.06TodPunkmmmmmm, LDUG tonight
22:52.12youtahAlso, just as an FYI
22:52.40TodPunkgonna fiddle with our RPi3, try to get it playing some SNES games
22:52.42youtah7.045 and 3.643MHz are the voice frequencies they are using for emergency communications in Italy right now
22:53.05youtahand 6.990 and 3.580MHz are the frequencies they are doing emergency PSK31 digital comms over
22:53.46Migshow much does this test cost?
22:54.12youtah$14
22:54.20youtahand if you pass your tech (the first level)
22:54.25youtahthen you get to take the next one free
22:54.36youtahand if you pass that one, then you can take the last one (highest level) for free
22:54.58youtahand then it is good for 10 years
22:55.02youtahand free to renew
22:55.02Migswell that's not bad
22:55.16MigsI was afraid it was going to be, like, $200
22:55.27youtahand considering you can get a very entry level radio (that will talk hundreds of miles) for $26 online brand new
22:55.43TodPunkat $200 it would really need to provide some key value
22:55.53youtahquality
22:55.56youtahrejection
22:55.58youtahhigh wattage
22:56.02youtahbetter filtering
22:56.07youtahless harmonics
22:56.14youtahetc
22:56.19TodPunkpeople's purchasing habits severely limit themselves after like $20
22:56.32youtahmore modes... FM, USB, LSB, Digital modes, CW, etc
22:56.37TodPunkhence daily coffee
22:58.10youtahmuch like motor vehicles... there's reasons an F-350 costs more than a Geo Metro
23:21.34*** part/#utah Nemus (~Nemus@unaffiliated/nemus)
23:28.42klysyoutah, what're the abbreviations for 2m and 440-band
23:28.55jfindlay"what is LDUG?"
23:29.06youtah2m = 144MHz
23:29.18youtah70cm = 440MHz
23:29.25jfindlayE = \lambda f
23:29.46youtahso essentially the speed of light travels at 300 million meters per second
23:29.59jfindlay299792458 m/s
23:30.03youtahwhich makes the math simple
23:30.14youtah300/70 ~= 440
23:30.27youtahoops
23:30.28youtahlol
23:30.39youtah300/.70 ~= 440
23:30.55youtah300/2 ~= 144MHz
23:31.02youtahit's not exact
23:31.49youtahfor example, 3.500-4MHz frequency is often refered to as 80 Meters
23:31.58youtaheven thought it is more 75 Meters
23:32.26youtahwell, I shoudl say the phone portion is 75
23:32.35youtahthe CW portion is 85
23:32.39klysHF?
23:32.42youtahyeah
23:32.57youtahso 3MHz-30MHz = HF
23:33.03youtah30-300VHF
23:33.08youtah300-3000 UHF
23:33.32youtahagain, that magical 300
23:33.51youtahin fact
23:33.51klysso, 70cm-UHF and 2m-VHF ?
23:33.56youtahCorrect
23:34.10klysis there a shorter abbreviation?
23:34.30youtahwe usually leave of the VHF and UHF
23:34.40youtahand just refer to the "Band" by the length of the wave
23:34.42youtahso
23:34.50klysUSB, LSB ?
23:34.53youtah"I just picked up this 70cm radio!"
23:35.01youtahUpper Sideband and Lower Sideband
23:35.05youtahAM = Both
23:35.33youtahso for upper side band, you're taking an AM signal, cutting it in half, and only sending the top half
23:35.34klysthat's LF ?
23:35.54youtahon receive (with a lot of awesome math) it mirrors the top and puts it back down creating the full signal again
23:35.58youtahLow Frequency
23:36.09youtahwe only have one LF available, and it is 160 Meters
23:36.12youtah1.5MHz
23:36.27youtahalthough, that might change soon. We might have a couple others being added soon
23:36.34youtahthose are Ground Wave frequencies
23:36.53youtahso .3-3MHZ = LF
23:37.01klyswhat's CW
23:37.10youtahContinous Wave
23:37.24youtahThat is the method or mode that CW (and other modes) use to send "data"
23:37.41youtahMorse Code (via CW) is actually considered a "digital mode"
23:37.49klysso is it packet radio
23:38.04youtahthat's a different tyoe
23:38.09klysk
23:38.19youtahthe most common form of packet radio is typically over 2 Meter FM
23:38.38klysyeah and 70cm iirc
23:38.44youtahyes
23:38.49youtahcheck out hamstudy.org
23:38.52klysk
23:38.56youtahit's pretty slick too
23:39.15youtahanyway, gotta run. TTYL
23:39.28klysso I was pricing radios at http://www.aesham.com do you know a better place
23:39.35youtahAmazon
23:39.38klysk
23:39.41klysthx =)
23:39.41youtahham radio outlets
23:39.44youtahdx engineering
23:39.46klystah-tah.
23:39.53youtahgigaparts
23:39.59youtahKSL has them all the time
23:40.13youtahand also check out the https://www.facebook.com/groups/901349396646822/
23:40.21youtahUtah Amateur Radio Garage Sale page
23:40.47youtahttyl

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