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| 02:45.28 | shalkie | So if anyone is looking for some consulting work you might check out this hospital. Seems they needed some good InfoSec folks: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35584081 |
| 02:46.09 | shalkie | Given the location and possible clients, I keep thinking about Dr. Evil and his 1 Million Dollars! |
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| 15:22.29 | jima_ | eightyeight: dangit, and all this time i thought the primary use of the dark web was for bronies to talk about mlp:fim |
| 15:22.40 | eightyeight | :) |
| 15:22.54 | eightyeight | it's a good read, actually. not lengthy, not overly mathematic |
| 15:22.57 | eightyeight | just research |
| 15:23.21 | jima_ | it's a lie, of course |
| 15:23.41 | eightyeight | it's not cake. it's a pdf. :) |
| 15:23.44 | jima_ | the primary use of the dark web is to drive plots of poorly written movies and tv shows |
| 15:24.25 | jima_ | (sorry, lately it's felt a bit like a crutch.) |
| 15:24.38 | jlp_znc | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.10 | jlp_znc | makes typing motions |
| 15:25.27 | eightyeight | hmm. can't make out the photo id. can you zoom in? |
| 15:25.30 | jima_ | actually, to be entirely fair, i just saw a tweet from one of the authors of that paper on my feed, RT'd by someone else |
| 15:25.35 | jima_ | eightyeight: ENHANCE |
| 15:25.36 | jlp_znc | let me leverage my botnet to do that for you |
| 15:25.56 | jima_ | https://twitter.com/RidT/status/699532725494136832 |
| 15:26.17 | jima_ | that's some...professional manipulation of the truth. |
| 15:26.36 | jima_ | by the cia guy, not the co-author of the paper |
| 15:26.44 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhF_56SxrGk |
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| 15:31.17 | eightyeight | jima_: would you expect anything less? |
| 15:31.25 | eightyeight | that's what these people do |
| 15:32.05 | jima_ | it's just disappointing. |
| 15:34.11 | eightyeight | if you get dissapointed by that, your belief of people and the world in general, is too high |
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| 15:35.16 | jima_ | nah, i just have higher expectations of my government's conduct than i should. :-) |
| 15:38.26 | eightyeight | i take it you didn't read much Ayn Rand while growing up |
| 15:39.21 | jima_ | nope |
| 15:49.17 | Tod-Work | snickers at Ayn Rand |
| 15:49.38 | Tod-Work | So like, ISIL could have been using AIM with SSL enabled |
| 15:50.03 | Tod-Work | or any number of jabber implementations off-the-shelf |
| 15:50.25 | Tod-Work | or an afternoon side-project for their website and a self-signed cert |
| 15:50.41 | Tod-Work | So sophisticated |
| 15:50.43 | Tod-Work | very encrypt |
| 15:50.44 | Tod-Work | wow |
| 15:55.03 | eightyeight | many secret |
| 16:03.39 | jima_ | so confound |
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| 16:29.47 | Enemby | such shibe |
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| 17:03.02 | youtah | Looks like people are sick of the sen/leg and have decided to go around the, |
| 17:03.05 | youtah | them* |
| 17:03.08 | youtah | http://fox13now.com/2016/02/15/ballot-initiative-pursued-in-favor-of-whole-plant-medical-marijuana/ |
| 17:03.19 | jfindlay | hahaha |
| 17:03.24 | jfindlay | yeah, right |
| 17:03.30 | youtah | 101,744 signatures required in the next 60 days. |
| 17:03.41 | jfindlay | do you even realize how difficult it is to get a ballot initiative in Utah? |
| 17:04.05 | jfindlay | youtah: not only that many, but they have to be proportionally distributed across the counties |
| 17:04.40 | youtah | 2-1 are in favor in Utah |
| 17:04.43 | youtah | nearly 2-1 |
| 17:05.00 | youtah | but yes, this will be very hard to do |
| 17:05.09 | youtah | but I also think so many are so passionate, they might just do it |
| 17:05.22 | jfindlay | the last time I worked on a petition, the state legislature, I mean, circus changed the law twice and retroactively applied it to the petition |
| 17:05.38 | jfindlay | and then there was something suspicious at the state supreme court |
| 17:05.52 | jfindlay | and the lieutenant governor's office |
| 17:06.09 | jfindlay | basically, what the state republican party wants happens |
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| 17:15.52 | programmerq | yeah, it's inevitable that utah will become a marijuana legal state |
| 17:15.55 | programmerq | the only question is when. |
| 17:19.51 | Jayce^ | more, what type |
| 17:20.14 | Jayce^ | the daw/vickers bill is almost guaranteed, and the madsen bill is close as well |
| 17:31.24 | programmerq | oh, it'll eventually land on a recreational use state |
| 17:31.38 | programmerq | it'll have a bunch of asenine regulations like it does with the alcohol industry |
| 17:31.41 | programmerq | but it'll be there |
| 17:32.26 | Tod-Work | I think the "republican party" line is a lot fuzzier now. It used to be much more along the lines of "what the LDS church-going stereotype is" about 20 years ago, and now it's much more "middle of the road tolerance" in direction. |
| 17:33.44 | Tod-Work | and I agree with programmerq, it's just a matter of time |
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| 17:34.56 | programmerq | imo the republican party are pretty shitty at being conservative. |
| 17:35.08 | Tod-Work | imo the "parties" are just pretty shitty |
| 17:35.27 | Tod-Work | I don't like all the "othering" they do while not really being any different |
| 17:35.56 | Tod-Work | that includes minor ones like the tea party and all those offshoots that think they're so grass-roots |
| 17:36.53 | Tod-Work | This is largely why I hate politics, it's just all such a fake act of stupidity, and if I wanted that I'd just watch wrestling |
| 17:37.23 | Tod-Work | Not to mention it usually has almost no effect on my life, except when they don't let me have Utopia |
| 17:42.29 | jfindlay | the state republican party seems entirely partied with small-time syndrome: gross malevolence wrought from glib incompetence, ego of cosmic proportions, pork barrel markets, and the ultimate triumph of individual fiat over the greater good of nature and truth |
| 17:42.50 | jfindlay | I'm sure if democrats were as much in charge, the story would be the same |
| 18:00.00 | Jayce^ | I moved here because of that type of situation |
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| 18:09.25 | Tod-Work | Jayce^, where is "here" in your instance, and what situation? |
| 18:09.29 | Tod-Work | Too much ambiguity! |
| 18:10.20 | Jayce^ | moved from WA to UT |
| 18:11.08 | voldemortensen | I don't miss living in WA. |
| 18:11.12 | jfindlay | that seems like one extreme to the other :) |
| 18:11.29 | Jayce^ | I miss my climate, trees, and ocean... |
| 18:11.53 | youtah | I would love the WA climate |
| 18:11.56 | jfindlay | I imagine the conservative rural folk in WA not resonating so much in state politics as they do in UT |
| 18:11.57 | voldemortensen | The only thing I really miss is my mother-in-law's cooking. |
| 18:12.06 | youtah | actually, I think I would prefer Oregon over Washington |
| 18:12.29 | jfindlay | youtah: there's a computer game you might be interested in |
| 18:12.30 | Jayce^ | I love the WA climate.. my socal wife would be on a constant suicide watch though :) |
| 18:13.21 | voldemortensen | I guess now that I have a car that doesn't leak when it rains, have a better job, and pretty much everything else in my life is stable, WA wouldn't be so bad. |
| 18:13.38 | youtah | It's actually difficult, because along the coast is so vastly different than say the far East side of OR/WA |
| 18:14.35 | voldemortensen | Nothing like waking up at 5:30 to go work in a fireplace factory. |
| 18:14.49 | voldemortensen | And walking out to your car to find that it's soaked inside. |
| 18:15.00 | youtah | Jayce^, would you say you are more of a Walla Walla or a Seattle kind of guy? |
| 18:16.17 | Jayce^ | West of seattle.. |
| 18:16.51 | youtah | but the highs in the Seattle area, in the summer, are like in the 70's |
| 18:16.55 | youtah | that's so cold! |
| 18:20.14 | Tod-Work | couldn't care less about temperature and whatnot, as he lives indoors |
| 18:20.18 | youtah | ... and your solar panels |
| 18:20.22 | youtah | lol Tod-Cloud |
| 18:20.23 | youtah | oops |
| 18:20.27 | Jayce^ | I love cooler weather |
| 18:20.30 | youtah | Tod-Work, |
| 18:20.34 | Tod-Work | has too many nicks here |
| 18:20.54 | youtah | likes the tab key |
| 18:21.06 | Tod-Work | I do too, and I'm trying to consolidate them into one. |
| 18:21.12 | Tod-Work | It's down to irccloud or quassel |
| 18:21.19 | youtah | Consolidating your tab keys?!?! |
| 18:21.19 | Tod-Work | I'm thinking Quassel, to be honest |
| 18:21.25 | Tod-Work | no, connections |
| 18:21.58 | jfindlay | youtah: how many tab keys do you have? |
| 18:22.28 | youtah | 7 |
| 18:23.04 | youtah | (7 keyboards) |
| 18:23.17 | jfindlay | are all your tab keys on the same keyboard? |
| 18:23.22 | asoc | dang.... I have almost that many backspace keys but I don't use tab that often. |
| 18:23.30 | jfindlay | or do you split 3/2? |
| 18:23.35 | jfindlay | 4/3 |
| 18:23.46 | youtah | 2/2/3 |
| 18:23.58 | jfindlay | nice, prime factorization |
| 18:24.05 | youtah | lol |
| 18:24.13 | jfindlay | what are the roots of unity of tab? |
| 18:24.17 | jfindlay | ~wiki root of unity |
| 18:24.47 | youtah | ~wiki nachos |
| 18:24.56 | jfindlay | ~nacho |
| 18:24.57 | infobot | Why can't we ever have just, like, a salad? |
| 18:25.07 | youtah | lol |
| 18:25.20 | youtah | mine was lame. Atleast yours had some detail in it |
| 18:25.29 | youtah | mine just had a bunch of wiki formatting |
| 18:25.48 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 18:25.48 | infobot | Just listen to your heart. That's what I do. |
| 18:26.18 | youtah | ~wiki Ignacio Anaya |
| 18:27.02 | youtah | I think I need to go make some now |
| 18:34.27 | scottymuse | Can't we just have a salad or something? |
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| 18:49.56 | levi | Mmm, discrete Fourier transform. |
| 18:52.50 | jfindlay | indiscreet Fourier transform |
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| 19:28.21 | jsmith | levi: Slow Fourier transforms? |
| 19:30.50 | jfindlay | lol |
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| 19:34.54 | shalkie | Rapid Fourier Transformation? |
| 19:40.34 | romanovic | Tod-Work: I love quassel. Been using it for about 6 years now, on Linux, Android, and Windows. And formerly on OS X and iOS as well. |
| 20:03.58 | jsmith | shalkie: If you're not aware, there's a traditional method called FFTs, or "fast Fourier transforms" -- hence the reason I mentioned Slow ones :-p |
| 20:06.35 | jfindlay | jsmith: I thought you were making an humorous analogy: fast:loose::slow:discreet |
| 20:06.53 | jsmith | jfindlay: I'm not that clever -- just ask Jayce^ :-p |
| 20:07.03 | jsmith | (who is probably at lunch right now) |
| 20:07.26 | jsmith | jfindlay: But you're right -- some people do play fast and loose with Fourier transforms... |
| 20:16.16 | youtah_ | it's kind of like the "slow kids at play" street signs? |
| 20:16.52 | voldemortensen | I needed one of those signs on my street. |
| 20:17.02 | youtah | nick fixed |
| 20:31.32 | jfindlay | wow, totally different. I didn't even recognize you before |
| 20:36.09 | jfindlay | is it possible to get a phone without a vibrator in it, or to hard disable it, sort of like ripping the wires off from an old school computer's internal speaker? |
| 20:36.25 | jfindlay | phones should not vibrate, evar |
| 20:36.37 | eightyeight | o.0 |
| 20:36.41 | eightyeight | disagrees |
| 20:36.46 | Jayce^ | got awkward here, real quick |
| 20:37.18 | jfindlay | I'm just angry at my phone for vibrating without permission |
| 20:37.19 | eightyeight | i would miss so many notifications without silent vibration |
| 20:37.41 | jfindlay | in my experience, vibration is not silent |
| 20:37.57 | eightyeight | weird experience |
| 20:37.58 | jfindlay | maybe I just always use low quality phones or something |
| 20:38.59 | jfindlay | also, I could be more sensitive to vibrations than normal people |
| 20:39.14 | jfindlay | but they drive me mad |
| 20:39.34 | eightyeight | seems like you have a lot of frustrating experiences with phones in general |
| 20:39.38 | eightyeight | maybe you should stop using them. :) |
| 20:40.00 | jlp_znc | open up phone, find wires that lead to vibration motor, clip them. |
| 20:40.00 | jfindlay | I wish that were possible |
| 20:40.20 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: I'm betting it's soldered right into the mainboard |
| 20:40.22 | eightyeight | RMS doesn't carry a cellular phone |
| 20:40.39 | jlp_znc | glue phone back together, get glue on inside of glass, throw phone away, buy new phone. |
| 20:40.55 | voldemortensen | I don't have a phone. Life is much simpler. |
| 20:41.13 | voldemortensen | And I don't have to worry about what mode my phone is on. |
| 20:41.30 | jlp_znc | jfindlay: unsolder vibration motor, remove from phone. |
| 20:41.38 | jfindlay | I would rather have a pocket computer that can make phone calls than whatever google and apple 'engineers' think a modern phone is |
| 20:41.54 | jlp_znc | disassemble vibration motor, remove rotor. |
| 20:42.05 | jlp_znc | I'm sure there's a way (or two, or three) |
| 20:42.25 | jfindlay | I may actually try that |
| 20:43.28 | jlp_znc | even if it's just remove off-balance weight from vibration motor shaft... wouldn't stop it entirely, but would make it much less noticable. |
| 20:45.04 | jfindlay | sorry for being controversial |
| 20:45.16 | jlp_znc | what phone do you have? |
| 20:45.24 | jfindlay | I have a moto G |
| 20:45.32 | jlp_znc | on mine (nexus 6) the vibration motor is indeed soldered to the board. |
| 20:45.52 | jlp_znc | 1st gen or 2nd gen moto G? |
| 20:46.02 | jfindlay | I got it for $90 refurbed from Ting |
| 20:46.15 | jfindlay | I think it's 1st gen |
| 20:46.16 | jlp_znc | hmmm, probably 1st gen |
| 20:46.28 | jlp_znc | https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola+Moto+G+1st+Generation+Teardown/28088 |
| 20:53.59 | eightyeight | jfindlay: there's no excuse for your abrasive personality. it's bad, and you should feel bad! |
| 20:54.07 | eightyeight | ~napoleon jfindlay |
| 20:54.07 | infobot | ACTION takes jfindlay's girlfriend to the mall for glamor shots |
| 20:55.20 | jfindlay | lol |
| 20:55.57 | jfindlay | ~brain |
| 20:55.58 | infobot | YES! |
| 20:56.04 | jfindlay | ~pondering |
| 20:56.05 | infobot | Uh, I think so, Brain, but balancing a family and a career ... ooh, it's all too much for me. |
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| 21:12.02 | jlp_znc | ~moss |
| 21:12.02 | infobot | I came here to drink milk and kick ass, and I've just finished my milk. |
| 21:12.53 | jfindlay | ~kronk |
| 21:12.53 | infobot | Well, I had a great time; let's not wait till the next family reunion to get back together. |
| 21:26.48 | jfindlay | this is what I feel like every time my phone vibrates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVxA3rfWgsc |
| 21:27.09 | levi | jfindlay: Regardless of whether you like iPhones or not, putting their engineers in scare quotes is a bit juvenile. There's a lot of really impressive engineering in them, even if the final experience is not to your liking. |
| 21:28.19 | jfindlay | levi: criticizing my rhetorical style is not going to convince me that my conclusions are transcendental |
| 21:29.06 | jfindlay | s/are/are not/ |
| 21:29.14 | jfindlay | whatever, I fail at humor |
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| 21:34.55 | youtah | This is for eightyeight navigator.vibrate([500, 300, 100]); |
| 21:35.12 | eightyeight | ? |
| 21:35.25 | youtah | That is JavaScript that will make your phone vibrate |
| 21:35.34 | youtah | three times, first the longest, and then gets shorter |
| 21:35.40 | eightyeight | ah |
| 21:35.50 | youtah | Tod-Work and I had some fun with that one. |
| 21:35.50 | eightyeight | i'm happy with the current notification settings |
| 21:35.56 | youtah | In a totally, non-weird way. |
| 21:40.33 | youtah | This is the QSL card for the German Antarctica base station (DP1POL) that keeps picking me up on HF Radio digital modes. I have yet to have a full QSO with them. My friend got confirmed though. https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/12714346_556478381197375_1981016954_n.jpg?oh=91a5a481bd011e43b949e0fc5a807969&oe=56C619CF |
| 21:41.04 | youtah | They have been picking me up at 10 watts |
| 21:41.09 | youtah | with 10 watts |
| 21:41.13 | programmerq | neat |
| 21:41.38 | youtah | everytime I try calling back to them, there are 14 gazillion stations calling them back, so they never hear me. |
| 21:41.45 | youtah | massive pile up |
| 21:44.30 | youtah | Here are all the stations that the station has picked up recently https://pskreporter.info/pskmap?DP1POL |
| 21:52.45 | programmerq | youtah: what bands do you operate on? |
| 21:54.20 | youtah | 70cm 2m 6m 10m, 12m, 15m, 17m, 20m, 30m, 40m, & 80m are the bands I play on |
| 21:55.31 | youtah | Primarily 2m, 15, 20, & 40 |
| 21:56.14 | programmerq | what is the band that DP1POL operates on? |
| 21:56.42 | youtah | he bounces around |
| 21:56.46 | youtah | from 10m to 40 meters |
| 21:56.50 | programmerq | cool |
| 21:56.52 | youtah | he's mostly on 20 meters |
| 21:57.01 | programmerq | damnit, now I want mor toys |
| 21:57.07 | programmerq | MOAR TOYS |
| 21:57.43 | youtah | right? |
| 21:57.48 | youtah | it is a lot of fun |
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| 21:59.48 | eightyeight | mindjuju: i emailed you the text for the PGP keysigning and CAcert assurance party |
| 21:59.55 | eightyeight | mindjuju: let me know if you have any questions |
| 22:08.20 | jlp_znc | where is this? |
| 22:08.24 | jlp_znc | when? |
| 22:09.44 | eightyeight | openwest |
| 22:09.48 | eightyeight | flushing out the details |
| 22:09.52 | eightyeight | i'll be hosting it |
| 22:11.31 | jlp_znc | cool. when is openwest this year? |
| 22:12.08 | jlp_znc | it's at the SLCC larry h miller campus in south jordan this year, right? |
| 22:12.46 | jlp_znc | ahh, july |
| 22:13.09 | shalkie | jsmith: Thanks, I was unaware. |
| 22:13.36 | jlp_znc | oh, no, at the south towne expo center? interesting. |
| 22:17.23 | eightyeight | at least it's more centralized than utah county |
| 22:17.28 | eightyeight | for us northern folk |
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| 22:47.46 | unum | ya south towne is much more covenient for me to get to |
| 22:56.56 | Tod-Work | Just a few exits north for me |
| 22:57.05 | Tod-Work | but point of the mountain is there |
| 22:57.07 | Tod-Work | sigh |
| 23:00.24 | rsimpkins | Crossing point of the mountain is like driving to a different state. |
| 23:02.57 | Tod-Work | Which I'm ok with, it's more the traffic issue |
| 23:03.11 | Tod-Work | They have better bars up there |
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| 23:08.52 | sjansen | @levi I've really been looking forward to your presentation, but I'm home with the flu. |
| 23:09.23 | sjansen | If the meeting can't be streamed or recorded, I demand a private repeat. |
| 23:25.42 | shalkie | steps away slowly from sjansen |
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