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00:57.52HarleyStuckHelp!
00:58.10HarleyStuckStupid UEFI.
00:58.47HarleyStuckI think I've got the hard drive partitioned correctly, grub doesn't report any errors when installing.
00:59.02HarleyStuckSystem boots to grub menu ok, but hangs after just a few lines.
00:59.15HarleyStuckerr ... after a few lines of startup.
00:59.23HarleyStuckAny ideas on how I can troubleshoot this?
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04:20.04leviharleypig: You get it figured out? (I assume you were HarleyStuck)
04:20.27harleypigI haven't. It's really frustrating.
04:20.55harleypigI can't even figure out how to find out what's wrong.
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04:25.26bregaladharleypig: did you try efitools?
04:25.55bregaladefibootmgr, efivar
04:26.07bregaladthere are other efi boot tools besides grub
04:26.28bregaladwith UEFI you technically don't even need a grub-like boot manager since it's part of the bios
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04:26.49bregaladjust update the efi variables pointing to your new kernel
04:27.14harleypigI was working through various arch tutorials.
04:27.29harleypigBut, if it's getting to the grub menu, is it really a boot problem?
04:27.41bregaladI haven't gotten efi boot to successfully work myself
04:27.57leviI have had little experience with uefi booting, unfortunately. I did help a nephew get Linux installed on a uefi laptop, but I'm not entirely sure what I did that made it work.
04:28.00bregaladyou've probably gotten past the efi part
04:28.28leviharleypig: What boot output do you get before it stops?
04:28.34bregaladexcept that efi requires an occult partition setup
04:28.54harleypiglooks like efi is disabled, efivar -l shows function not implmented.
04:29.00bregaladnobody seems to know how or why
04:29.16bregaladbooting EFI is like getting your system through the NSA backdoor
04:29.59harleypiglevi: I get something like ata16.0 err, a few more lines that I don't remember at the moment, then an mci not found error.
04:31.30harleypigbregalad: the dedicated partition is supposed to give grub or other bootload its own dedicated space.
04:32.14leviSo, this may be a partition table thing rather than a uefi thing. What kind of partition table did you choose?
04:32.28leviIt sounds like you may have gone with GPT?
04:33.22harleypigYeah, parted /dev/sda print shows partition table: gpt, #1, filesystem '', flags bios_grub
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04:33.30harleypig#2 and #3 are ext4
04:33.41harleypig#3 being / and #2 being /boot
04:34.31harleypigIf I mount /, /boot and /home (dev/sdb1) and then arch-chroot /mnt/box I can reinstall grub as often as I want
04:34.47leviI thought /boot had to be the first partition in GPT so GRUB could see it or something?
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04:35.13harleypigusing grub-install --target=i386-pc --recheck --debug /dev/sda then grub-mkconfig ...
04:35.14leviI haven't actually installed a system with GPT; I went with the good ol' DOS partition table.
04:35.24harleypigIt has to be in the first 2TB
04:37.52harleypigThe first partition has to be the gpt magic partition.
04:38.41harleypigIn any case I've done a setup where there were only two partitions, the gpt one and / as the other.
04:38.45harleypigand got the same thing
04:39.41harleypigGah. My daughter needs a ride home from work. *sigh* bbiab
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04:43.01leviharleypig: This page has lots of good info: http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/installation.html
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17:29.54latteraharleypig: do you have a FAT32 parition where the EFI loader resides?
17:31.04latteraEFI requires a special EFI loader (a PE file) that resides in a FAT32 partition
18:04.03romanovicI heard rumor that Tucano's (or maybe another brazilian grill) was putting in a new location in South SL Valley.  Can anyone confirm or deny?  Can't find anything on the google
18:04.41jlp_zncwell, the only ones I know of are Tucano's, Rodizio, and Brazza Grill
18:05.11jlp_zncthere used to be one on 7200 S, but it's been long gone for a while.
18:06.16bregalad~napoloen
18:07.57bregalad:(
18:08.49jlp_zncs/oe/eo/
18:10.30rsimpkinsI ate at the Tucano's in Seattle. Not quite as good as the one in Provo. The Rodizio's in Lehi is weak-sauce.
18:10.45rsimpkinsStill, for loads-a-meat - options are few.
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18:14.06jlp_znca friend of mine went to Rodizio once.  the server sliced his wife's hand up with the carving knife.  the server's comment was something like "you might want to put a bandaid on that".
18:14.41rsimpkinsI'll be careful to not place my hand under any sharp blades.
18:15.11RyanEI like Tushar, which, while not a Churrascaria, does serve some decent Brazilian food, including Coxinhas that are pretty tasty.
18:15.42RyanEit's on 106th south, in the strip mall just west of Kneaders.
18:15.47jlp_zncbut Churasco is so tasty.  just think of the words "turkey wrapped in bacon".
18:16.06RyanEI won't disagree there, but sometimes you don't want/need the "meat load"
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18:16.32fozzmooAre there vegetarians in Brazil? I've always wondered.
18:16.48RyanEyes.  2 of them.
18:16.55jlp_zncanyone tried the peruvian place on state street?  I have driven past there a zillion times and always wondered if it's any good.
18:17.18jlp_zncPuro Peru, I think it's called.
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18:27.59jlp_zncso, I'm hearing about Windows 10.  was there a Windows 9?  I think my nephew is running 8.1 on his laptop.
18:30.58latterajlp_znc: no Windows 9 because a lot of legacy Windows 95/98 applications detect that they're running on Windows 95/98 by checking the version string for "Windows 9" rather than the full "Windows 95" or "Windows 98"
18:31.08latterahence the jump from 8 to 10
18:31.19RyanEthat, and 10 is cooler.
18:31.32youtahWell
18:31.47youtahToday's my last day at Bluehost
18:31.56youtahand I am about to log off.
18:32.11latteragood luck at your next employer :)
18:32.14youtahI have a new opportunity which is really exciting and couldn't pass up!
18:32.27youtahYou'll see me in here again, just not for a couple of days
18:34.04RyanEgood luck with the new job.
18:34.20RyanEUnless it's Amway, then I wish you no luck whatsoever.
18:37.09jlp_znclattera: ah, makes sense.  
18:38.52harleypiglattera: I've tried both the fat32 partition and the bios boot one ... but I've realized the problem isn't the uefi setup.  I'm getting to the grub menu and the kernel is starting to boot. I'm getting an HSM violation ... but I don't have an ssd.
18:38.54sjansenRyanE: Have you heard about the melaleuca miracle?
18:39.17latteraHSM?
18:39.31sjansenRyanE: Since I've combined it with Xango, I've never felt better.
18:39.59jlp_znc~middleman
18:40.00infobotCaffeine is a drug.
18:40.15sjansenRyanE: I haven't been able to decide between DoTerra and Nu Skin, so I might just go with both.
18:41.18sjansenRyanE: My life has improved so much, I want to share what I've discovered with everyone.
18:41.48sjansenRyanE: How about I come by your house tonight so we can discuss it? Say.. 7:30? See you then!
18:41.59tvc123sjansen: you have gained 20# and lost all of your friends?
18:42.37RyanEsjansen: fortunately, I don't think you know where I live.  :)
18:47.15sjansenRyanE: Not a problem. I understand your skeptical now, but if you give me your phone number and 10 minutes so we can discuss how living a MonaVie lifestyle will transform your existence, I'm sure you'll be begging me to share with your entire family.
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19:29.00jlp_zncs/your/you're/ <- one of my pet peeves
19:29.43sjansengloats
19:31.43jlp_zncwaits for sjansen to say something like "your upset about my word choice? their they're, now, it will be okay."
19:32.19sjansenI'll have to remember that.
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19:38.33rsimpkinsI haven't had someone try and pitch me MLM in years.
19:38.42rsimpkinsMaybe people just don't like me.
19:38.48rsimpkinsOr, they think I am poor.
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19:39.30sjansenOr the opposite, you're not poor enough.
19:39.44jlp_zncright.  not desperate enough.
19:40.20rsimpkinsI shall attempt to appear more desperate in the future. I want free samples of oil and juice.
19:40.28jlp_zncI read an interesting article about spam indicating that the spelling errors in most spam are intentional.
19:41.34jlp_zncI guess not just spam, but phishing and nigerian scam e-mails, too.
19:42.06rsimpkinsSounds like I would make a great SPAM author.
19:42.22jlp_zncthe implication was that people who notice the spelling errors probably wouldn't have fallen for the scam anyway, so they would have just taken time away from the scammers dealing with non-viable marks.
19:43.23rsimpkinsMy deer brother King Edward the Third of Zimbabwa has left me twenty (20) million in small unmarked bills barried under a tree. If you will dig ti up I will split the monies with you 25/75.
19:44.12sjansengoes to get his shovel
19:45.01jlp_zncexactly!
19:45.12jlp_zncsjansen proves my point.
19:45.47rsimpkinssjansen is an imposter! The real sjansen would never own a shovel.
19:45.59jlp_zncchuckles
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20:05.05bregalad~pinky
20:05.05infobotNarf!
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20:50.08jlp_znc~worf
20:50.09infobotToday was not my day to die.
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20:55.58bregalad~brain
20:55.58infobotYES!
20:56.08bregalad~pondering
20:56.08infobotI think so, Brain, but where are we going to find a duck and a hose at this hour?
20:59.58jlp_znc~roy
20:59.58infobotDon't Google the question, Moss!
21:00.32jlp_zncit amuses me how often the "randomly" chosen quote is appropos to the conversation.
21:06.55bregalad~nacho
21:06.55infobotTonight I wrestle the seven strongest men in town, maybe the world.
21:10.33jlp_znc~wendy
21:10.33infobotI would never shoot a cow.
21:10.43jlp_znc~moss
21:10.43infobotDid you see that ludicrous display last night?
21:15.54bregalad~kronk
21:15.54infobotOh yeah, it's all coming together.
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21:39.36jlp_znchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHNczNvOnGc
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22:28.54davido__Gr, why is it so hard to find a charging cable for my Galaxy Tab 2 that *isn't* a cheap knock-off.
22:44.52romanoviccheap knockoff cables don't charge your Galaxy Tab properly?
22:45.38romanoviccharges all devices using $3 cables from monoprice
22:46.00davido__I'm sure they would until they fall apart.  But yeah, I can buy a lot of $3 cables for the price of one OEM.
22:48.08programmerqI've had a couple cables that worked fine for me for a long time, and then my phone complains it isn't charging properly after months of use
22:48.15programmerqMy guess is that I'm just wearing out the connecter
22:49.39davido__The really tricky one is navigating the muddy waters of replacing an NFC-enabled battery for a Galaxy S4 phone.
22:50.32davido__I think I got it right though. ;)
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