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00:19.12 | Krewfix | hellewa |
00:19.44 | Krewfix | Hows everyone doin on this beautifull day? xD |
00:21.10 | findlay | ~onjoin Krewfix |
00:21.14 | findlay | hm |
00:21.45 | findlay | extemporaneous 'l's are stripped in transit over the pond |
00:22.24 | findlay | does latice QFT for gravity sound interesting? |
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00:41.50 | Q_Continuum | I no get Ouya email :-( |
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00:58.21 | Q_Continuum | Fuck IPv6 and v8. Let's go straight for 11! |
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01:33.19 | Krewfix | yo! |
01:33.38 | Krewfix | yo again, sorry i keep disconnecting sometimes for some weird reason :S |
01:34.31 | Krewfix | having my router checked on monday :S its a real pain in the bollux |
01:34.48 | Krewfix | Everyone alright? |
01:35.23 | fugue88 | Krewfix: Looked like a protocol-level disconnect from this end, not a network problem. Killed your client? Client disconnects automatically after some inactivity? Probably not your router. |
01:36.22 | Krewfix | oh no its not just mIRC :) thank you for trying to help tho |
01:36.50 | Krewfix | Been on the phone with a helpdesk trying to sort this out so :) |
01:37.05 | fugue88 | Oh, fun times for you then. |
01:37.09 | fugue88 | ;) |
01:38.36 | Krewfix | lol, ye the nasty bit is, here in norway they are rating me with quite the money for the phonecall so ill have to have a discussion about that aswell |
01:39.15 | Krewfix | how was the concert of findlay? |
01:39.28 | Krewfix | been meaning to ask about that xD |
01:43.16 | Krewfix | I guess most of the people are busy or away? xD enjoying easter and all that |
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02:24.29 | jima | Q_Continuum: you mean IPvB? |
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03:34.55 | shalkie | Screw it, lets just go ti IPv0xF |
03:35.02 | shalkie | s/ti/to |
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03:47.48 | harleypig | John Smallberries says Hi! |
03:48.05 | jima | says hi back, despite having no clue who that is. |
03:49.06 | harleypig | You don't know who John ... what about John Whorfin? or John Littlejohn or John Ya Ya ? |
03:49.33 | jima | no, i only know taco john and papa john |
03:49.49 | harleypig | They are Lectroids |
03:50.05 | harleypig | From the Eighth Dimension. |
03:50.10 | harleypig | Here to take over the world! |
03:50.11 | jima | shrugs |
03:50.35 | harleypig | If it weren't for Buckaroo Bonzai they would have succeeded! |
03:53.05 | harleypig | What is that watermelon doing there? |
03:53.18 | jima | rule 34? |
03:55.01 | harleypig | ... oooo ... Rule 34 for Buckaroo Bonzai ... Penny Pretty ... |
03:56.06 | jima | i meant the watermelon. |
03:56.14 | harleypig | Yeah, I ran with it. |
03:56.45 | jima | with the watermelon? don't drop it. |
03:57.28 | harleypig | won't matter ... it's unbreakable |
03:57.41 | harleypig | well, probably don't want to drop it on my foot. |
03:58.09 | harleypig | oops ... that's Penny Priddy |
04:02.25 | harleypig | wow ... yoyodyne.com is still up |
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14:56.35 | findlay | http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/27/google-maps-beefs-up-its-live-transit-information-with-updates-for-nyc-dc-and-salt-lake-city/ |
15:02.22 | fozzmoo | That's dumb. Catering to the insignificant number of mass transit users in SLC. |
15:02.48 | fozzmoo | NYC and DC, I can understand. |
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15:05.24 | findlay | I think it means that UTA is begging google to do its web work. Have you ever tried to use their website? |
15:05.52 | findlay | supplying as much cooperation with google as possible |
15:06.09 | fozzmoo | Maybe UTA could afford to do its own web work, if it wasn't spending so much money on advertising. |
15:06.28 | findlay | the google wave continues to disrupt established industries of all types |
15:06.37 | findlay | fozzmoo: haha |
15:06.57 | findlay | it's all part of its own narcicissm |
15:07.04 | fozzmoo | I love the ad I hear on KSL lately featuring the head of Rocky Mountain Power touting the airport TRAX line. |
15:07.21 | fozzmoo | "Because the trains are electric, there are no emissions." |
15:07.29 | findlay | sure |
15:07.59 | fozzmoo | (Except at that power plant on North Temple the trains will be going by every five minutes.) |
15:09.14 | jessie_ | I love the electric = no emissions claims. |
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15:23.24 | goozbach | saw a statistic that the new electric cars have close to triple the carbon footprint as the petrol powered ones |
15:23.28 | goozbach | due to the manufacturing |
15:24.48 | fozzmoo | Yeah, I believe it. I remember some article a few years back that compared the carbon footprint of a Prius to a Hummer and the Hummer was smaller by quite a ways. |
15:25.33 | Q_Continuum | Yeah, battery production isn't exactly "clean" |
15:25.53 | Q_Continuum | fozzmoo: I recall that article; the 'info' that went with it was flawed IIRC |
15:26.04 | Q_Continuum | left out stuff on the hummer side that was counted on the prius, etc |
15:26.16 | Q_Continuum | But it is worth comparing |
15:26.26 | Q_Continuum | Now only if they could report honest reliable metrics... |
15:26.33 | Q_Continuum | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
15:26.36 | Q_Continuum | Who am I kidding? |
15:26.37 | fozzmoo | :) |
15:26.53 | Q_Continuum | Everyone involved won't be honest. |
15:26.56 | Q_Continuum | No one would. |
15:28.30 | fungus | Electricity can be generated though carbon free methods, like the Rocky Mountain Power's Blue Sky program |
15:28.53 | fozzmoo | Yep. For more expense, of course. |
15:29.06 | fungus | Therefore, before measuring a carbon footprint for a Prius you would have to see where they get their power. |
15:29.12 | Q_Continuum | I would like them to simply show how much of input X is required to make Y. |
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15:29.30 | Q_Continuum | "We need 1600KW of power, 1 ton of steel" etc |
15:29.49 | Q_Continuum | Don't tell me how much that power polluted based on your assumptions abuot the source |
15:29.59 | Q_Continuum | Tell me how much it used, and I'll figure out what source that was |
15:30.35 | Q_Continuum | Or "We need 1600KW of power, currently provided by a 90% efficient coal plant." Or some other standardized measurement. |
15:30.54 | Q_Continuum | I'm after the most efficient overall; not just on the fuel-input side |
15:31.10 | Q_Continuum | Full-lifecycle. |
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15:47.16 | youtah | findlay, perhaps it is because SLC is an easier target to tackle and help work out the kinks? |
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15:48.12 | youtah | lol fozzmoo "electric, there are no emissions" |
15:48.32 | Q_Continuum | I wonder if the ISIS test market is pushing that. Any way Google can keep relevant. |
15:48.57 | Q_Continuum | Can't risk people falling outside the Google Bubble too much |
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15:49.44 | youtah | Q_Continuum, guess what.... my hardware is out for delivery! |
15:49.55 | jessie | I just wish that the carriers wouldn't bar me from using Wallet or whatever instead of ISIS |
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16:08.54 | JalenJade | findlay, it's not advertising where UTA is spending our money. It's executive pay. UTA has some of the highest paid executives in the country for public transit. |
16:09.23 | jessie | Yay government granted monopolies. |
16:10.26 | fozzmoo | Especially when you break it down by number of riders. |
16:11.02 | eightyeight | i love how you think no one rides the utah public transit |
16:11.13 | eightyeight | it's cute, in an ignorant, 5-year old sort of way |
16:11.56 | jessie | eightyeight: I never said no one used it, only said that it was a government granted monopoly. How many other companies could get as much funding and land given to them as UTA does? |
16:12.06 | eightyeight | i'm referring to fozzmoo |
16:12.16 | jessie | Oh, disregard. |
16:12.48 | fozzmoo | John Inglish was making almost as much as the guy running the NY transit system. |
16:13.11 | eightyeight | ridership is down in 2012 compared to 2011, but it sees about 300,000 riders per month |
16:13.20 | fozzmoo | I don't know how many buzillions of riders they deal with each year, but UTA's 180k or so is pocket change in comparison. |
16:13.43 | eightyeight | http://www.apta.com/resources/statistics/Documents/Ridership/2012-q4-ridership-APTA.pdf |
16:13.49 | eightyeight | q4 2012 stats |
16:14.48 | fozzmoo | I found it. Daily ridership: NYC 8.7 million, UTA: 143k |
16:15.25 | fozzmoo | That's from a 2010 article. |
16:15.42 | eightyeight | how can that be? the state population is 8.2 million |
16:15.51 | jessie | ^ |
16:16.49 | fozzmoo | Population of NYC is 8.2m. A lot of people work, visit, etc. there. |
16:17.10 | fozzmoo | almost all use public transit. |
16:17.15 | eightyeight | so, per day, 500,000 more people than the entire state population, ride the NYC transit |
16:17.20 | eightyeight | i'm not buying it |
16:17.34 | fozzmoo | 8.2 million is the population of the CITY, not the state. |
16:17.57 | pdayton | and there are plenty of people who commute into the city |
16:18.02 | fozzmoo | The state has 19 million |
16:18.06 | eightyeight | i still don't buy it |
16:18.15 | eightyeight | i would believe, maybe, 4 million daily ridership |
16:18.31 | jessie | There's still taxis, cars, etc. that people use too. |
16:18.38 | fozzmoo | Still staggering when compared to UTA's 143k |
16:18.38 | pdayton | folks commute in from New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania |
16:18.41 | eightyeight | taxis are private organizations |
16:19.03 | jessie | Agreed. That's what I'm saying, there's other forms of transport besides public transport. |
16:19.29 | fozzmoo | My point was that Inglish was nbeing paid $339k when the guy running the NYC transit program was being paid $350k |
16:19.39 | JalenJade | MTA reports 5.2 million riders per day |
16:19.44 | JalenJade | in 2011 |
16:19.59 | eightyeight | i'll agree that the UTA execs are overpaid. by leaps and bounds. several orders of magnitudes. |
16:20.11 | eightyeight | no argument from me there. their fares are astronomical |
16:20.13 | jessie | fozzmoo: Can't say that I disagree on the overpaying of execs. |
16:20.43 | eightyeight | but the ridership is anything but dead. sure, compared to a city that has 4x the population of our state, it's looks puny |
16:21.10 | eightyeight | it would be higher though, if the fares were, like, 1/2 (they should be free, imo) |
16:21.29 | JalenJade | The only issue i have with UTA is how much the executives get paid. I think they should take pay cuts before they raise fair prices |
16:22.05 | eightyeight | i don't honestly understand why it's publicly funded, with the rates they charge |
16:22.28 | jessie | Cause it loses money like mad, duh. |
16:22.35 | jessie | Everything but Trax, that is. |
16:22.49 | eightyeight | well, it's a failed business model |
16:22.50 | youtah | True story about NY ridership. When I was in NJ, it seemed like *everyone* rode the trains into New York. |
16:23.26 | JalenJade | well if 5.2 million ride the subway alone I can see how total public transit a day could be 8.2 million when you include all other forms of transit |
16:24.24 | eightyeight | on a side note, interesting graphic: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USA_2000_population_density.png |
16:25.39 | youtah | LOL, Google maps only has street car views on the major streets of where I served my LDS mission |
16:28.30 | Q_Continuum | Yeah, it looks like transit wouldn't really be an option for me. |
16:28.39 | mheath | I've gotten so used to Street View |
16:28.51 | Q_Continuum | 1) I'd have to start an hour later as the route that stops at the building starts running just after 7AM |
16:28.54 | mheath | And now I'm looking at maps of military installations I'll be at, and I'm so frustrated its not available |
16:29.08 | Q_Continuum | and takes 35 minutes to run from State/7200S->Work |
16:29.18 | Q_Continuum | youtah: How long would it take you to drive that? |
16:29.29 | mheath | Even the addresses/directions on military bases are messed up in Google Maps :( |
16:29.29 | Q_Continuum | 10, maybe 15 minutes? |
16:29.45 | Q_Continuum | UTA needs GOogle to do this. I can't even get their route finder to work without throwing errors. |
16:29.59 | jessie | Yeah, UTA's website is pretty terrible. |
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16:30.12 | Q_Continuum | Not just "we couldn't find that" but actual "code on line 14 is fucked" |
16:30.44 | mheath | Q_Continuum: You can't look up directions on Google Maps? |
16:30.51 | Q_Continuum | No, the route finder |
16:30.53 | mheath | I NEVER use UTAs website, I always go through Google Maps |
16:31.03 | Q_Continuum | I figured I'd see how UTA's site was. |
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16:31.11 | youtah | Q_Continuum, drive from State Street to work? |
16:31.13 | Q_Continuum | I haven't tried to use it before |
16:31.16 | Q_Continuum | Yeah |
16:31.16 | youtah | Maybe 12 minutes |
16:31.19 | mheath | I don't think UTAs site has been updated for about 10 years |
16:31.21 | Q_Continuum | 35m by train. |
16:31.27 | youtah | 7 if you hit it at the right times |
16:31.27 | Q_Continuum | Starts at 7:10, arrives at 7:45AM |
16:31.39 | mheath | It will helpfully give you lots of route 'options' though |
16:31.40 | Q_Continuum | First run of the day. |
16:31.51 | mheath | Like, say you don't want to take that silly 15 minute bus ride |
16:31.56 | mheath | UTA can find a way to make your trip last 4 hours |
16:32.02 | mheath | One of the many great features of rideuta.com ;) |
16:32.07 | JalenJade | yeah for me to get to anywhere it takes at least an hour via bus. It generally takes less time on my bike unless TRAX is involved |
16:32.26 | youtah | This was the street I lived on (in one area) of New Jersey, that actually has street view. http://goo.gl/maps/kqhGr |
16:33.02 | mheath | I used to ride UTA buses constnatly, and have *ALWAYS* used Google Maps for the transit routing and directions. |
16:33.26 | youtah | So if you walked down the alley to the back of the house, and went into the cellar, *most* houses would rent out all the individual rooms in the basement. So you would have 3~5 people in that one basement. |
16:33.28 | Q_Continuum | Biking up the long slow incline towards work would kill my already not-great knees |
16:33.45 | youtah | Then you would have an entire family on the main floor, another family upstairs, and a renter in the attic. |
16:34.08 | youtah | so you could have 20 people in one house, and a quarter of them went to NY for work |
16:34.39 | Q_Continuum | Traveling to work via UTA would take between 1h 4m and 1h 11m |
16:34.58 | Q_Continuum | Whereas currently it is under 10 miles to drive, driveway to parking ramp. |
16:35.07 | Q_Continuum | and takes 10-15 minutes. |
16:35.33 | Q_Continuum | Oh, and I'd have to leave an hour earlier than I already do, meaning waking up at 5AM to arrive at work by 7. |
16:35.34 | youtah | From Sandy (13th East and 80th South) to Cottonwood Heights (work at the mouth of BCC) was something like a 70 minute commute via UTA for me |
16:35.46 | mheath | I did the math once, for when I was living in Bountiful and working in West Valley |
16:35.54 | mheath | I wanted to 'save money' buy buying a bus pass |
16:35.55 | Q_Continuum | Far west side of Murray to same. |
16:36.08 | jessie | Q_Continuum: Not to mention the hour ride back home. |
16:36.15 | Q_Continuum | Yeah. |
16:36.19 | mheath | Bus passes are EXPENSIVE. It worked to being about $100 more expensive, per month, to take the Bus than to pay for the gas in my car |
16:36.24 | youtah | When I was living in bountiful, and was going to SLCC at Redwood road, it took me just shy of 2 hours to ride UTA one way |
16:36.27 | mheath | And increased my commute by 2.5 hours a day |
16:37.11 | Q_Continuum | mheath: They make sense if you A) drive a gas guzzler B) travel along a long-distance route C) can get rid of the vehicle entirely (maybe join a shared-vehicle group or something) |
16:37.26 | Q_Continuum | I just try to live close to work... |
16:37.51 | mheath | I take the bus a lot now, but thats because I have a discount ed pass, and theres a 15 minute line that goes straight from my uni to my apartment |
16:37.55 | jessie | See, even the long distance routes suck now. Due to frontrunner, they've killed a lot of the express bus routes. |
16:38.19 | mheath | Those express routes were nice, too. Nice busses, wifi, fast, good schedules.. |
16:38.50 | jessie | Yeah, I took the express bus from Spanish Fork to UVU everyday for a year or so. |
16:38.54 | mheath | Frontrunner is difficult to take. The UTA connections at a lot of the frontrunner stations are severely lacking... |
16:39.16 | jessie | And the connections seem to be timed poorly so that you always seem to miss the train/bus you need. |
16:39.44 | mheath | yep |
16:40.16 | mheath | I may want to look at those again. A month or two ago they redid a bunch of schedules, supposedly specifically to improve frontrunner conncetions. I haven't look to see if it's any better though |
16:40.25 | jessie | It's not. |
16:40.43 | jessie | My wife was taking Frontrunner from Lehi to U of U until about 2 weeks ago. |
16:40.46 | youtah | Q_Continuum & Jima, So I just ran the schedule maker, from my old house in Sandy (13th East 80th South) to go to work, it's 1 hour and 15 minutes. |
16:40.47 | mheath | Actually, no, I don't want to look at those again. I keep forgetting I'm moving out of Utah in a few weeks... |
16:40.57 | jessie | It took her about 1.5 hours each way. |
16:41.39 | mheath | I shouuld probably research how Seattle's transit works, though..hmmm. |
16:41.45 | Q_Continuum | Man, I always built subway systems that ran every 2 or 3 roads in a grid pattern in SC2000. |
16:41.49 | Q_Continuum | Why can't we just do that? |
16:41.57 | Q_Continuum | Expensive upfront, I know. |
16:42.00 | Q_Continuum | :-( |
16:42.01 | youtah | +1 |
16:42.08 | Q_Continuum | But I made it work in the simulation... |
16:42.15 | Q_Continuum | ...then again subways may have been underpriced. |
16:42.26 | youtah | lol |
16:42.32 | mheath | Subways are really expensive to build these days, because theres so much existing underground infrastructure |
16:42.39 | youtah | all I need to know about running a city, comes from Sim City |
16:42.48 | mheath | Thats one of the only rason that places like the New York and London subways are so succesful |
16:42.53 | Q_Continuum | I'm skipping the new Sim City, but I did pick up SC4 on Steam awhile back. I should give it a go. |
16:42.58 | Q_Continuum | True |
16:42.58 | mheath | they built most of them before there are any significant modern, underground infrastucture |
16:43.21 | youtah | So that's why we do it now, instead of 20~50 years down the road |
16:43.30 | mheath | eh |
16:43.31 | youtah | when there will be just that much more stuff underground |
16:43.55 | mheath | Mass Transit is a delicate subject in the USA. In the USA, it doesn't tend to work out in a way that makes it particularly cost effective or benefficial |
16:44.00 | Q_Continuum | Build a tunnel or two, and run all the wiring through it as well. Channels for diff vendors/categories |
16:44.01 | mheath | *cough* Amtrak *cough* |
16:44.23 | Q_Continuum | Yeah, me going back to MN via Amtrak would be a 3-day-affair |
16:44.25 | mheath | Our population density is too low, our personal vehicle ownership rate too high, and people are too impatient |
16:44.31 | Q_Continuum | UT->Cali->Seattle->Minnesota |
16:44.51 | mheath | I don't understand why anyone takes Amtrak. every time I have priced it, it has been SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than airfare, not to mention much longer |
16:45.00 | Q_Continuum | Well I can spend $20 in actual costs to drive to/from work each day, and it takes me 20 minutes. I don't know what UTA charges, and it would take 2.5 hours |
16:45.05 | youtah | because trains are fun |
16:45.07 | Q_Continuum | ^ |
16:45.12 | mheath | The only reason I could ever think of is the experience or the scenery |
16:45.20 | romanovic_ | what youtah said |
16:45.26 | Q_Continuum | I've done it once, going to Washington DC from MN with family. (We flew back) |
16:45.36 | youtah | I want to go to Colorado via train, and ride in the upper car |
16:45.46 | Q_Continuum | In fact, sunrise breakfast in their dining car on Easter sunday |
16:45.53 | Q_Continuum | 12 years ago |
16:46.03 | romanovic_ | i've never taken amtrak, but i'd love to. my mother in law visits from california by train from time to time, and she loves it |
16:46.24 | Q_Continuum | If the route is sane, it is a different experience than airtravel. |
16:46.27 | Q_Continuum | Then again, mine was pre-TSA |
16:46.44 | mheath | I've always loved the idea of paying Amtrak |
16:46.49 | mheath | I would even consider paying a *bit* more for it |
16:47.00 | Q_Continuum | Also: TRIPLE check EVERY compartment of EVERY container you pack for stuff you shouldn't have. |
16:47.02 | mheath | But every time I've priced it, its been *much, much, much* more |
16:47.08 | mheath | Like 400-500 higher than airfare |
16:47.25 | Q_Continuum | They have regional passes good for unlimited rides in a given timeframe. |
16:47.29 | Q_Continuum | Could make a 'trip' that way. |
16:47.52 | Q_Continuum | I'd looked at one point it was like $400 for like a 2-week pass in a given region |
16:47.54 | mheath | Maybe once I'm Active again, I'll check them out too. I've heard they have a decent military discount. |
16:48.21 | Q_Continuum | Want to see the Pacific NW? Here, for $350-$450 you can travel as much as you want for 2 weeks. |
16:48.28 | youtah | Coolest message of the day "Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context" |
16:48.45 | mheath | atomic CPU |
16:48.46 | mheath | awesome |
16:48.56 | youtah | lol, +1 for anything atomic |
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18:09.40 | youtah | Baaaack |
18:13.06 | tristanbob_w | I agree, I would like to travel via train like they do in teh movies. perhaps that is the way it is in europe? sleeper trains for overnight trips |
18:18.13 | findlay | UTA LAMERZ GUBERMANT MONOPOLY MONEY |
18:18.14 | findlay | etc |
18:18.43 | findlay | is just trying to catch up |
18:19.05 | findlay | because I spent the last hour at a dark matter seminar |
18:21.08 | findlay | hypercharge, weak isospin symmetry breaking, CMSSM, higgs intermediary |
18:21.27 | findlay | cower before my command of excessive jargon |
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18:27.19 | findlay | There's a trax line that runs one block from my house, so I could get to campus just on trax |
18:27.34 | findlay | but then I'd have to do 2 transfers |
18:28.29 | findlay | (and a 10 minute walk across campus) so, I could make an epic trax trip twice a day, or I could walk in about the same amount of time and write poetry |
18:29.36 | youtah | So any of you going to Holi tomorrow? |
18:32.39 | shalkie | I want to! |
18:32.42 | shalkie | s/to/too/ |
18:34.30 | youtah | I will be thre |
18:34.31 | youtah | there |
18:34.35 | youtah | wearing my youtah shirt |
18:34.46 | shalkie | :-) |
18:34.49 | youtah | White shirt with this logo http://youtah.com/youtah_logo_400x400.svg |
18:35.34 | youtah | (and if that link doesn't load, throw a slice of ham, or whatever else might be on your sandwich, at Jayce^ |
18:35.36 | youtah | ) |
18:35.37 | JalenJade | On TableTop day? pfft |
18:35.59 | shalkie | I saw your twitter logo. :-P |
18:36.00 | youtah | That's called "Stick Figure falling down stairs in a Box Womb" |
18:36.31 | shalkie | Did you snicker much at the use of Womb instead of Room? |
18:36.37 | shalkie | :-) |
18:36.48 | youtah | I sure did |
18:37.02 | shalkie | Good. :-) |
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19:25.50 | mahelious | throws a slice of head cheese at Jayce^ |
19:26.08 | mahelious | link loaded, i just wanted to throw sliced meats |
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19:50.13 | Krewfix | Peekaboo |
19:50.26 | Krewfix | happy easter everyone :) |
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19:57.03 | youtah | lol mahelious |
19:57.12 | youtah | Thanks, you too Krewfix |
19:57.44 | mheath | Not quite easter yet, but happy easter none the less :) |
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20:16.19 | mahelious | ive never gotten the hang of easter |
20:16.55 | mahelious | am i supposed to have ham, lamb or rabbit for dinner? and then i have to eat egg salad sandwiches for a week straight |
20:19.32 | Q_Continuum | I don't know. Wasn't raised Catholic, so didn't have those funny requirements. |
20:19.49 | Q_Continuum | Just another excuse to see family |
20:20.36 | mheath | I think Catholics can pretty much eat anything on Easter |
20:20.41 | mahelious | funeral potatoes i can dig. there should be more holidays about eating potatoes and cheese. |
20:20.45 | mheath | They're restricted during Lent |
20:20.53 | mheath | But Lent ends the day before Easter |
20:21.06 | mheath | Easter Dinner is supposed to be the post-Lent feast |
20:21.20 | mheath | (disclaimer: I am not, never have been a Catholic) |
20:22.32 | mahelious | when i finally start a religion, at least once a month im having a religious feast involving lots of beer and raclette. |
20:23.29 | mahelious | and a pinata. there are never enough opportunities to pull out a pinata. |
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21:46.00 | tristanbob_w | findlay: you write poetry while walking to work? |
21:48.55 | Tene | tristanbob_w: don't you write poetry while findlay walks to work? |
21:49.01 | Tene | I thought everyone here did. |
21:49.39 | tristanbob_w | Walk, walk, skip, hop. Findlay moves, destination approaches. |
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21:53.42 | youtah | Q_Continuum!!!! MY HARDWARE CAME! |
21:54.22 | youtah | lol, the *only* thing that is still out for delivery, is the computer case itself. |
21:54.42 | youtah | but that's okay, I can get just some cardboard and glue the MoBo to it, right? |
21:57.57 | jessie | Hell yes you can, who needs proper grounding?! |
21:59.55 | nage | I knew of a college dorm room that ran a system with all the bare components hung from the ceiling with fishing line, it always made me nervous |
22:03.41 | youtah | I'll just fill a bucket full of mineral oil and let the parts float around |
22:03.42 | Tene | That's problematic for cooling also |
22:04.01 | Tene | A closed case gives you better airflow. |
22:04.24 | youtah | well, except for the HDD's, I imagine they wouldn't like mineral oil very much |
22:04.26 | jessie | Mineral oil should do just fine if you cool it somehow. |
22:04.32 | jessie | SSD's bro. |
22:04.36 | youtah | lol |
22:04.42 | youtah | I will have both |
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22:39.47 | harleypig | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hnBp7x2QAE |
22:42.12 | fozzmoo | I'm convinced the original Gorn footage was meant to be sped up. :) |
22:43.02 | harleypig | fozzmoo: nah ... it was just as campy as the rest of the series ... speeding it up would have made it stand out from the rest. |
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23:25.49 | Q_Continuum | Well if youtah hadn't bailed I was going to show him my build this week that is running on cardboard... |
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23:56.15 | harleypig | anyone know of a rts that not only allows for macro development by the player, but encourages it by providing (relatively) easy to user interface to create said macros? |