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14:53.25 | *** topic/#utah is Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds | OpenWest Conference 2013 Call for Papers openwest.org/cfp | RIP Aaron Swartz |
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15:05.13 | undertakingyou | Good Morning |
15:06.03 | Jayce^ | undertakingyou: I hear from you twice in one weekend.. what fates have aligned to cause this?! |
15:06.24 | undertakingyou | Apparently all of them :) |
15:06.33 | undertakingyou | That is what I get for making a job change. |
15:06.48 | Jayce^ | oh, what are you interring now? :) |
15:07.15 | undertakingyou | Currently nothing. I am self employed, working on two startups, and trying to make a go of it. |
15:07.48 | undertakingyou | http://undertakingyou.com/general/new-look/ <-this blog post talks about the two businesses. |
15:08.38 | Jayce^ | so we're actually going to see you at the conference this year? |
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15:09.22 | undertakingyou | There is a chance. |
15:09.38 | undertakingyou | I have had quite the hiatus. I am ready to get back into the community again. |
15:10.41 | undertakingyou | I did just put it on my calendar. |
15:11.55 | Jayce^ | goozbach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smdMh3Ew6IU&feature=youtu.be |
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15:19.41 | ezakimak | undertakingyou, pm? |
15:19.56 | undertakingyou | Sure. |
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15:30.00 | shalkie | So thanks to eightyeight I just found out why my invite requests to friends on gtalk appear to just be silently denied. |
15:30.03 | shalkie | :-( |
15:30.11 | eightyeight | yup |
15:30.15 | eightyeight | google ftl |
15:31.51 | jima | what'd they do now? |
15:32.03 | jima | shalkie: not me btw, i just hate you. |
15:33.09 | shalkie | https://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/google-backslides-on-federated-instant-messaging-on-purpose |
15:33.22 | shalkie | jima: ^^ |
15:33.36 | jima | wooooooow. |
15:35.14 | shalkie | jima: Oh... Now I have to go find pictures of puppies to cheer me up. |
15:35.35 | jima | shalkie: brb, finding pictures of sad puppies to send you. |
15:36.06 | eightyeight | so, currently, i'm asking everyone on my gtalk list to add me at aaron@aarontoponce.org, but i just purchased the toponc.es domain, to expire some other family domains |
15:36.08 | jima | i'd send them via xmpp, but OH WAIT |
15:36.19 | eightyeight | and i'm thinking i would rather have 'aaron@toponc.es' instead. heh. |
15:36.31 | jima | eightyeight: awesome. |
15:37.00 | jima | eightyeight: so HURRY UP and add that domain to your xmpp server! |
15:37.07 | jima | hmm, that reminds me. |
15:37.33 | eightyeight | heh |
15:37.49 | jima | dang, need to add some SRV records to the domain i bought yesterday |
15:38.56 | Q_Continuum | I need to add some services to the domains I bought last year. |
15:39.18 | Q_Continuum | So I can justify some records in it ;-P |
15:39.20 | jima | Q_Continuum: want xmpp? i'm adding 'em to the db for my domains anyway |
15:40.09 | eightyeight | shalkie: i've also emailed google directly to add domains to their supoosed whitelist, and have not gotten a reply |
15:40.12 | Q_Continuum | Sure, may as well. |
15:40.51 | jima | which domains? |
15:40.55 | Q_Continuum | Once I figure out why my box is being so randomly retarded I should clone that setup and get mine on my box. |
15:40.58 | Q_Continuum | Hrm |
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15:41.34 | eightyeight | jima: xmission.com, and aarontoponce.org (although that may change) |
15:42.00 | jima | eightyeight: haha, i was talking to Q, sorry |
15:42.23 | Q_Continuum | jima: Blacklist those two he mentioned. |
15:42.28 | eightyeight | heh |
15:42.30 | eightyeight | fine |
15:42.32 | eightyeight | jerk |
15:42.44 | Q_Continuum | jima: Til they get proper IPv6 support ;-P |
15:42.57 | Q_Continuum | and catch up with what...1998? |
15:43.16 | Q_Continuum | hides |
15:43.35 | jima | rabble rabble ipv6 |
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15:43.50 | jima | does a dns push for Q |
15:44.10 | Q_Continuum | \o/ |
15:44.25 | Q_Continuum | Not that I have anything that will use those new dns entries (yet) |
15:44.53 | Q_Continuum | Maybe after I learn more PUPPET tomorrow I start buildin' the stack that way. |
15:44.59 | Q_Continuum | BECAUSE MOAR |
15:49.50 | jima | dangit, i think it's choking on the lack of an ssl cert. back to waiting... |
15:51.15 | Q_Continuum | Yeah, I should get some of those... |
15:53.14 | Q_Continuum | Ugh, means 2 forms of ID. |
15:53.33 | Q_Continuum | Does a PTC count, it IS a valid form of Gov't ID, from my vague understanding of Utah Law. |
15:53.43 | Q_Continuum | Or do I have to spend monies on a passport? |
15:55.25 | Q_Continuum | Awww, it is not valid ID :-( |
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15:57.23 | Q_Continuum | Well guess I'll do passport and CFP at the same time then, double-up on ID paperwork stuffs. |
15:57.50 | jima | have fun |
15:58.41 | jima | me: No problem, jerk. :-D |
15:58.59 | jima | boss: that's indecisive jerk to you >:-( |
15:59.39 | Q_Continuum | lol? |
15:59.49 | jima | yes, lol |
15:59.51 | Q_Continuum | Which company did the free certs that were good? |
15:59.58 | jima | startssl |
15:59.59 | Q_Continuum | I recall there were two and one sucked. |
16:00.10 | jima | cacert isn't respected by all of the browsers |
16:00.21 | Q_Continuum | I would call that 'sucky' |
16:00.28 | jima | <cacert> RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH |
16:00.32 | jima | <browsers> no. |
16:00.36 | jima | <cacert> ok :-( |
16:00.50 | Q_Continuum | haha |
16:01.03 | Q_Continuum | I'm curious what lead to the 'indecisive jerk' discussion. |
16:02.48 | jima | i asked him a question last week, he told me one answer...today he proceeded as if he'd told me the other answer. |
16:03.21 | jima | he acknowledged wrongdoing at least |
16:03.29 | Q_Continuum | lol |
16:03.33 | Q_Continuum | "I lied again" |
16:03.53 | Q_Continuum | Oh right, ID needed if want wildcard cert. |
16:04.00 | Q_Continuum | If no want wildcard, free is fine. |
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16:07.33 | jima | yes. or for commercial purposes. |
16:09.31 | Q_Continuum | HAHA! Two forms of identity documents are sufficient. For US citizens we can accept also a birth certificate or social security card. |
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16:10.07 | Q_Continuum | https://twitter.com/startssl/status/296224472669769728 |
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16:12.57 | youtah | MORNING! |
16:13.05 | shalkie | Morning youtah! |
16:13.11 | youtah | I got my Pebble will be shipping soon email notification! |
16:13.28 | youtah | Can you guys see this? https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10200940586621128.1073741825.1359725386&type=1 I have it set to "Public" |
16:13.38 | youtah | not sure if you need to get logged in to still see it |
16:14.00 | kylie_ | Logged in, and I can see pictures. |
16:14.06 | youtah | sweet |
16:14.08 | youtah | but you had to log in? |
16:14.13 | kylie_ | I was already. |
16:14.16 | youtah | oh |
16:14.17 | kylie_ | I'll log out real quick. |
16:14.25 | youtah | I am just hoping jlp_work1 can see them |
16:14.42 | kylie_ | Doesn't work logged out. :-\ |
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16:15.12 | kylie_ | And congrtas on the Pebble shipment. :P |
16:15.12 | youtah | dangit |
16:15.22 | youtah | lol, thanks kylie_ |
16:16.49 | Q_Continuum | I'm expecting on Thursday to get my "Your Ouya is shipping %SOON" notification. |
16:16.55 | Q_Continuum | NOMS TIEM |
16:18.44 | youtah | It was only a matter of time... https://ksl.com/?sid=24533690&nid=148&title=west-jordan-man-killed-on-corona-arch-rope-swing&fm=home_page&s_cid=featured-1 |
16:19.50 | youtah | They miscalculated the length of the rope. |
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16:23.22 | jima | Q_Continuum: methinks they changed that at some point...alas, i lost my ss card and my only copy of my birth certificate is safely in the hands of the state department. so, i wait. |
16:23.32 | jima | youtah: ltns, social outcast. |
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16:24.40 | youtah | yeah jima, I was playing in Grand Staircase NM this weekend |
16:24.45 | youtah | (National Monument) |
16:25.06 | jima | yeah, i know |
16:25.10 | jima | twitter, remember? |
16:25.24 | youtah | Oh yeah, duh |
16:25.25 | youtah | lol |
16:25.31 | jima | i see you favorited my wife ;-P |
16:25.42 | youtah | eh? |
16:25.50 | mheath | thats getting mighty personal :D |
16:26.07 | youtah | logs into twitter to see what he favorited |
16:26.27 | jima | mheath: i know, right? |
16:26.41 | youtah | Oh, the That's What She Said comment? |
16:26.46 | jima | :-D |
16:26.58 | youtah | It's law. You *have* to favorite tweets when they're TWSS's |
16:27.06 | jima | i showed her the foot long tweet, she was amused |
16:27.19 | youtah | I also liked the "stop sopa" icon |
16:27.30 | jima | she cracks as many beaver jokes as i do, if not more. |
16:27.55 | youtah | So you liked my Beaver Utah jokes? |
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16:29.35 | goozbach | youtah: you were in teh filmore beaver area? |
16:29.37 | goozbach | fun! |
16:30.05 | jima | i find that pairing on freeway signs particularly amusing. |
16:31.09 | goozbach | I'm like 100% beaver county |
16:31.16 | goozbach | native that is |
16:31.24 | goozbach | my dad is from beaver, my mom from Milford |
16:34.46 | youtah | goozbach, I was only in Beaver for about 10 minutes |
16:35.02 | youtah | HEY! Question for you |
16:35.14 | youtah | goozbach, is it okay if I PM you? |
16:35.14 | Migs | I doubt you were there for ten minutes |
16:35.17 | Migs | you probably blinked and missed it |
16:35.25 | youtah | no, I pulled in |
16:35.27 | youtah | to fill up |
16:35.37 | Migs | then you pulled out? |
16:35.38 | youtah | ... with gas |
16:35.42 | youtah | exactly |
16:35.48 | Migs | ... |
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16:36.00 | Migs | okay, enough of that |
16:36.05 | youtah | +1 |
16:37.03 | youtah | Friday it was sunny, clear skies, 71 degrees and super dry. We then drove over to Bryce Canyon where it was snowing, 12 degrees w/ 35mph winds (-8~-14 degrees w/ windchill) |
16:37.29 | spangborn | SDLFDJFUHSDFS. http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/03/25/0215212/testers-say-ie-11-can-impersonate-firefox-via-user-agent-string |
16:37.51 | spangborn | Can we just agree that User Agents are a complete mess and start over? |
16:37.58 | youtah | +1 |
16:38.14 | youtah | but we'll have to go back to like 1985 |
16:38.35 | spangborn | The fact that Chrome claims to be both Gecko and Safari cracks me up. |
16:38.46 | spangborn | Firefox is currently the only UA that isn't lying. |
16:45.15 | youtah | Guess we're all just going to have to die in the fire... http://i.imgur.com/MLxMnKB.jpg |
16:49.46 | undertakingyou | Jayce^: Just looking at UTOSC pricing, can you explain the team cost vs individual? |
16:50.05 | Migs | I bet the spider's friendly |
16:52.01 | eightyeight | http://www.quickmeme.com/Misunderstood-Spider/ |
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16:55.06 | Krewfix | yo! |
16:55.13 | eightyeight | ~onjoin -Krewfix |
16:55.13 | ibot | ok, eightyeight |
16:55.40 | Krewfix | so hows everyone doing today? |
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17:01.27 | spangborn | OMG |
17:01.31 | spangborn | Tour de Brewtah. |
17:01.43 | spangborn | http://tourdebrewtah.org/p/ride-details.html |
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17:09.44 | Jayce^ | undertakingyou: encourages bringing a group of 4 or more |
17:10.07 | undertakingyou | So if I have 4 or more it is $20 each, but if it is just me it is $80. Ok. |
17:10.09 | undertakingyou | Thanks. |
17:10.20 | Jayce^ | undertakingyou: and don't forget the standard discount codes from the groups |
17:10.31 | Jayce^ | so you can lower your price easily :) |
17:11.21 | undertakingyou | True. but 20/per for a group of 4 or more is already a great price. |
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17:32.30 | Migs | https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486481_579082225445002_156183176_n.jpg |
17:33.29 | goozbach | sure pm away |
17:33.30 | unum | they'll just blame that on the feds |
17:34.00 | unum | no matter what the issue is if you talk to a Utah Republican Leg, it's the federal government's fault |
17:34.01 | Q_Continuum | Migs: LOVE it. |
17:34.23 | undertakingyou | Migs: good one. |
17:34.30 | Q_Continuum | Has Magpul announced what state they're moving to, since CO seems to have decided to off itself in the gun community? |
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17:44.15 | shalkie | While creative ways to ask girls out is a fun tradition, you had to see this coming: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/treasure-hunt-girlfriend-prompts-bomb-scare |
17:51.00 | eightyeight | recalls a geocache being blown up near HAFB for similar concerns |
17:54.58 | youtah | back, was at lunch |
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18:09.50 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/Y3Y7SfG.jpg |
18:10.50 | Migs | hahaha |
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18:26.32 | youtah | giggles in anticipation over getting his pebble |
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18:35.25 | jima | youtah: are you a penguin? |
18:35.41 | youtah | ? |
18:40.29 | jima | your preoccupation with this pebble |
18:41.10 | youtah | Okay.... here, look at this one instead. https://plus.google.com/117588839385073341602/posts/dRtsDZm3MeS |
18:42.17 | Q_Continuum | Ouya > Pebble |
18:42.41 | jima | $mydistro > $yourdistro |
18:42.49 | Q_Continuum | Planetary Annihilation > Pebble |
18:42.55 | Q_Continuum | screen > tmux |
18:42.58 | Q_Continuum | vi > emacs |
18:43.03 | Q_Continuum | Firefox > Chrome |
18:43.04 | youtah | You can't comfortably wear an Ouya on your wrist |
18:43.06 | jima | NO U |
18:43.16 | Q_Continuum | you can't comfortably play games on your Pebble. |
18:43.23 | youtah | Pebble > Ouya |
18:43.27 | Q_Continuum | Or annihilate planets with your pebble. |
18:43.37 | youtah | screen > tmux |
18:43.39 | Q_Continuum | Or make use of a 64-bit system's memory with your pebble. |
18:43.44 | youtah | vi > emacs |
18:43.48 | youtah | chrome > firefox |
18:43.56 | youtah | lynx > * |
18:44.08 | youtah | lynx > .* |
18:44.10 | Q_Continuum | Mosaic > lynx |
18:44.16 | youtah | Nope |
18:44.22 | youtah | I threw in .* before you said it |
18:44.24 | Q_Continuum | FIRST BROWSER IS BEST BROWSER. |
18:44.34 | youtah | Lynx, no battle. |
18:45.03 | Q_Continuum | Mosaic look better in living room than Lynx. Also, less shit on carpet. |
18:45.09 | jima | gopher > www |
18:45.22 | Q_Continuum | jima: I'm 2 steps removed from a gopher dev by residence. |
18:46.04 | Q_Continuum | And 1 step from someone who wrote their own TCP/IP stack for the Atari Jaguar. He was working on a web browser for it... |
18:46.14 | Q_Continuum | ...he still has (had?) the Jaguar last I knew. |
18:46.16 | youtah | Hey, did you guys hear that my Pebble is going to be shipping soon?! |
18:46.32 | youtah | ducks |
18:46.33 | Q_Continuum | youtah: If you wanted a Pebble why didn't you pick one up while you were on the mountain? |
18:46.38 | jima | youtah: stfu already, you're sounding like Q when he has a new toy in transit. ;-) |
18:46.45 | youtah | LOL |
18:46.49 | Q_Continuum | jima: I just ordered...oh |
18:47.34 | youtah | Okay, so I have $1k to make a new machine, for editing photos |
18:47.51 | jima | buy a mac! </troll> |
18:47.51 | Q_Continuum | any other things it needs to do? |
18:47.55 | Q_Continuum | and Desktop or laptop? |
18:48.00 | Q_Continuum | BUY A SURFACE RT! |
18:48.02 | youtah | I need recommendations (serious ones) on a mobo and cpu |
18:48.08 | youtah | Desktop |
18:48.11 | youtah | the rest I can fill in |
18:48.18 | Q_Continuum | I'm gonna snag an AMD A10 APU here before I leave Ohio |
18:48.21 | Q_Continuum | at Microcenter |
18:48.25 | youtah | looks at all the mobos and gets overwhelmed. So many purdy mobos |
18:48.39 | Q_Continuum | 3.6GHz quad, with a decent GPU |
18:48.42 | Q_Continuum | MiniITX mobo |
18:48.46 | Q_Continuum | 2x8GB DDR3 |
18:48.46 | youtah | licks the NAND |
18:48.57 | Q_Continuum | lol |
18:49.11 | youtah | I'd like to have a minimum of 32 GB of DDR3 RAM |
18:49.28 | jima | easy enough these days |
18:49.34 | Q_Continuum | MicroATX minimum then |
18:49.36 | jima | >32gb is a little hard still |
18:49.39 | Q_Continuum | MiniITX are all 2-slot |
18:49.44 | Migs | anything less than 32GB RAM is a pretty weak computer |
18:49.47 | Q_Continuum | MicroATX and 4x8GB |
18:49.58 | jima | Migs: yeah, that's why Q and i order 128+GB |
18:50.00 | Q_Continuum | 16GB modules exist, but non-ECC are hard to find and expensive. |
18:50.05 | Migs | atta boi |
18:50.12 | Q_Continuum | Migs: 128GB x 8 |
18:50.27 | Migs | if I wanted to use a cheap slow computer, I'd visit the county library |
18:50.32 | jima | yeah, we don't always order computers with 128GB of ram, but when we do, we order 8 of them. |
18:50.37 | Q_Continuum | ^ |
18:50.48 | Q_Continuum | ^5's jima |
18:52.27 | youtah | lol Migs |
18:55.03 | Q_Continuum | youtah: If you build an Opteron/Xeon (> E3) you can go past 32GB already |
18:55.28 | youtah | See what I mean? So many choices. How does one decide!?!?!? |
18:55.38 | Q_Continuum | Image editing. Any video? |
18:55.52 | Q_Continuum | How many cores? What arch/GPU does your editing software take advantage of? |
18:55.54 | youtah | Yes, some video, not as much, but HD video |
18:56.08 | Q_Continuum | That last part is probably the key. |
18:56.15 | Q_Continuum | What software you'll be using and what gives it the most power |
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18:56.31 | youtah | I am thinking I would like to either go with the i7 or that 8 core AMD |
18:56.43 | youtah | Lightroom and Photoshop |
18:56.43 | Q_Continuum | Both easily doable for under $1k |
18:56.53 | Q_Continuum | As long as licensing those two isn't part of it ;-P |
18:57.02 | youtah | lol |
18:57.06 | youtah | I already own the licenses |
18:57.14 | youtah | (yes, paid for them) |
18:57.32 | Q_Continuum | GPU acceleration would probably be more worthwhile than 4C/8T or 8C |
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18:57.46 | Q_Continuum | I know some of those can do it anyway |
18:57.58 | Q_Continuum | Adobe at first was doing CUDA, but migrating to OpenCL for cross-hardware support |
18:58.05 | Q_Continuum | IIRC |
18:58.08 | youtah | Any that come to you off the top of your head? |
18:58.19 | Q_Continuum | I have other friends who are/have done what you're doing. |
18:58.39 | Q_Continuum | He's got an nVidia card because the version he's got only uses CUDA for accel |
18:58.46 | youtah | Oh yeah, and PCIe 2.0 x8 is a must |
18:58.48 | Q_Continuum | Of the full CS Suite |
18:58.53 | youtah | which shouldn't be too hard |
18:59.02 | Q_Continuum | Yeah...most these days have 1 at x16 |
18:59.25 | Q_Continuum | and not hard to get 2 at x16 or 4 at x8 (last one gotta go full ATX usually) |
18:59.37 | Q_Continuum | Need it to be portable at all? |
18:59.45 | Q_Continuum | Or will this be a in-the-office-only build? |
18:59.46 | youtah | Nope |
18:59.54 | youtah | Mid or full ATX is fine |
19:03.24 | youtah | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284 |
19:03.45 | Q_Continuum | MicroCenter has those for $30 less. |
19:04.08 | youtah | It's got killer reviews |
19:04.18 | Q_Continuum | jima's wife has one. |
19:04.36 | Q_Continuum | I'm debating between that and the top-end A10 APU (5800K) |
19:05.46 | jima | oh boy, youtah is probably liking my wife more and more the more he hears about her |
19:08.32 | youtah | i have no idea how to respond |
19:09.00 | Q_Continuum | She told me to get the A10 so she'd still have the fastest machine in the house. |
19:09.26 | Q_Continuum | 4.0 x 8 (FX-8350) vs 3.6 x 4 (A10-5800K) |
19:10.02 | youtah | So I have an AMD 6 core right now, which I think is fine, but what kills me is how slow Lightroom is |
19:10.16 | Q_Continuum | Can it take advantage of GPU acceleration? |
19:10.30 | youtah | It does a boatload of caching and thousands of side car files |
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19:10.42 | youtah | I think it can Q_Continuum |
19:10.46 | Q_Continuum | What version are you running? |
19:10.48 | youtah | <PROTECTED> |
19:10.51 | youtah | 4.2 |
19:10.53 | youtah | 4.1 |
19:10.57 | youtah | (typo on the 2) |
19:12.08 | Q_Continuum | http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/gpu_mpe_support_for_lightroom_4_multiprocessor_support |
19:12.17 | Q_Continuum | Top response |
19:13.23 | youtah | Shiznits |
19:13.30 | Q_Continuum | Looks like SSD makes the next upgrade list |
19:13.37 | youtah | lol |
19:13.38 | Q_Continuum | http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/system_configuration_recommendations |
19:13.55 | Q_Continuum | Does it eat your 6-cores when you see it slow down? |
19:14.04 | Q_Continuum | If not I'd look at other things to upgrade |
19:14.07 | youtah | no |
19:14.22 | Q_Continuum | RAM, SSD, GPU acceleration (if it uses it) |
19:14.27 | youtah | so maybe something like an i5 and then dump my money into |
19:14.28 | youtah | yeah, those |
19:15.35 | Q_Continuum | DDR3 on your existing box? |
19:15.38 | youtah | no |
19:15.41 | youtah | AM2+ |
19:15.46 | youtah | cries |
19:15.46 | Q_Continuum | Phenom II x6 on an AM2+ board? |
19:16.02 | youtah | yeah |
19:16.03 | Q_Continuum | Could just get an AM3/AM3+ board with DDR3 and SATA6 |
19:16.10 | Q_Continuum | move existing CPU over |
19:16.22 | Q_Continuum | add 8GB modules and an SSD or 3. |
19:16.26 | youtah | well, this current machine I am going to turn into a secondary storage server |
19:16.29 | Q_Continuum | Ah. |
19:16.39 | Q_Continuum | I'd still get at least a "real" quad |
19:16.45 | Q_Continuum | + HT |
19:17.00 | youtah | it will be turned into an 8TB of mirrored storage system |
19:17.27 | Q_Continuum | Then an SSD for OS, SSD for Lightroom/PS, SSD for scratch, and a RAID-0 cluster for output. |
19:17.30 | Q_Continuum | ;-P |
19:17.31 | eightyeight | if anyone is interested, i have some http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227599 i would be willing to sell |
19:17.37 | youtah | Which reminds me, I need up swap out of the Power Supply. Can't handle any more HDDs |
19:17.59 | Q_Continuum | eightyeight: Dare I ask how much? |
19:18.04 | youtah | +1 |
19:18.22 | eightyeight | Q_Continuum: what would you be willing to pay? |
19:18.30 | eightyeight | these are factory sealed |
19:18.31 | youtah | lol |
19:18.32 | eightyeight | unused |
19:23.03 | findlay | sealed factory |
19:24.44 | Q_Continuum | Probably nowhere near what they're worth. What 'class' are those in? |
19:25.10 | Q_Continuum | only looks at the 3-5 year 2.5" models, not the enterprise-grade ones) |
19:25.38 | Q_Continuum | And on a scale of 1-10, Google Shopping puts those clearly at Retarded :-/ |
19:26.49 | eightyeight | yeah. i'm finding it's hard to sell high-end SSDs |
19:27.16 | eightyeight | i don't mind holding on to them as replacements for existing ones. i don't mind selling them either. :) |
19:27.27 | Q_Continuum | They're beyond the reasonable pricepoint for most home-uses. |
19:27.43 | eightyeight | indeed |
19:27.51 | Q_Continuum | Hell all mine are SATA III capable, but crippled to SATA II by boards |
19:27.52 | youtah | $23.72 |
19:27.53 | spangborn | brb, crying. |
19:27.58 | Q_Continuum | lol |
19:28.04 | youtah | That is my final offer |
19:28.13 | Q_Continuum | Microcenter has 500GB Samsung 840's (Non-Pro) for $309 |
19:28.19 | Q_Continuum | I'm srsly tempted. |
19:28.49 | Q_Continuum | -$20 if I buy a CPU, mobo, or system |
19:29.31 | Q_Continuum | youtah: I could pick you up a CPU/mobo while I'm here, MIcrocenter does a 'Buy a CPU, get $40 off any matching mobo in stock' deal |
19:29.33 | youtah | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116502 << so purdy |
19:29.44 | Q_Continuum | Not all CPUs qualify, but they list 'em online |
19:30.00 | Q_Continuum | Annoying part: in-store only |
19:30.16 | youtah | Hmmmmm, not a bad idea. then you pocket the $20 off while I get a cheaper deal |
19:30.32 | Q_Continuum | http://www.microcenter.com/product/388576/Core_i7_3770_34GHz_LGA_1155_Processor |
19:30.46 | Q_Continuum | Well, I'd pay sales tax. |
19:30.51 | Q_Continuum | Because Retail. |
19:31.05 | Q_Continuum | But they claim better pricing than Newegg or TigerDirect on CPUs |
19:31.25 | Q_Continuum | I fly out Sat morning, so will be picking stuff up no later than Fri night |
19:31.38 | youtah | Whoa, that is $20 cheaper than NewEgg |
19:31.51 | youtah | why can't we have one of these in Utah? |
19:32.20 | Q_Continuum | Because supposedly they won't build a store if you don't have an NFL team. |
19:32.26 | Q_Continuum | Per one guy. |
19:34.36 | Q_Continuum | Also they don't overspend/take loans for stuff |
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19:36.08 | shalkie | meh. I would prefer a Fry's anyways. |
19:36.21 | Q_Continuum | I would settle for either. |
19:36.26 | Q_Continuum | But none is a problem. |
19:38.08 | shalkie | Hmmm... I want to roadtrip to vegas for some Frys action now. |
19:38.17 | spangborn | Just frys? |
19:38.22 | spangborn | I thought you'd at least hit up a strip club. |
19:38.50 | jima | thank goodness they don't have those here |
19:39.01 | spangborn | LOL. |
19:40.05 | shalkie | spangborn: Naw. If I am going to loose my money quickly I might as well get free drinks at the casino while I do it. |
19:40.13 | youtah | ROFL |
19:40.25 | youtah | "likes" this convo |
19:40.54 | spangborn | Wait, you'd rather get drinks over a lapdance? |
19:40.57 | youtah | but agreed, we have, like, nothing here. I had to buy a Power Supply from Radio Shack when I was in a pinch |
19:41.24 | jima | much as i hate best buy, i think i'd sooner go there than radio shack |
19:41.34 | spangborn | Ditto. |
19:41.37 | jima | (for a power supply) |
19:41.37 | youtah | ditto |
19:41.41 | spangborn | But their PC parts are limited |
19:41.47 | jima | very. |
19:41.50 | youtah | but when I called, they didn't have a high enough wattage one (weird I know) |
19:41.56 | Q_Continuum | o.0 |
19:41.58 | spangborn | I prefer to use Best Buy as Amazon's show room. |
19:42.00 | youtah | all I needed was a 500 watt |
19:42.09 | Q_Continuum | Best Buy has always had their 300/500W housebrands and some gamer ones |
19:42.14 | spangborn | I go in, look at a physical product, and then buy it on Amazon |
19:42.18 | youtah | yeah but they were out |
19:42.22 | spangborn | I'm part of the problem, I know. |
19:42.24 | jima | oof |
19:42.40 | youtah | well, not all of their stores, but I also didn't want to drive to Orem |
19:42.55 | shalkie | And here I thought Best Buy had some secret way of counter acting that behaviour too. |
19:43.01 | youtah | Oh yeah, did you guys hear my pebble is shipping?! |
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19:45.43 | Q_Continuum | youtah: Pebbles are free, dummy. |
19:46.37 | jima | i'm in a conference call...with myself. :~( |
19:46.50 | spangborn | Send us the number and we'll call in. |
19:46.58 | youtah | +1 |
19:47.00 | jima | i could, actually |
19:47.16 | spangborn | We can use VIRC protocol |
19:47.18 | jima | except it's a test call to determine what's breaking a VP's real calls |
19:47.20 | spangborn | Verbal IRC |
19:47.29 | spangborn | "ACTION eats a donut" |
19:47.43 | jima | what's the sound of control-a? |
19:47.45 | spangborn | "TOPIC #utah YOUTAH IS A JERK" |
19:50.06 | spangborn | Maybe start using keypad tones for control+keys |
19:51.40 | JalenJade | why do we have to state the obvious? |
19:51.59 | JalenJade | anyone named Jeff is a jerk just by nature of having so many other people with the same damned name |
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19:55.07 | youtah | lol JalenJade |
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20:00.28 | jima | anyone got a wi-spy or similar? |
20:01.31 | spangborn | I think there's a DD-WRT tool you can use to do similar things, but obviously not as low-level |
20:02.12 | spangborn | Ouch, they're pretty pricey. |
20:02.53 | Q_Continuum | Hence the question if one was already procured ;-p |
20:03.26 | Q_Continuum | Terribad reception at the house, something is stomping all over ~2.4GHz and want to track it down |
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20:17.49 | youtah | WAIT, What the.... are they really making Enders Game into a Movie? |
20:19.13 | jsmith | youtah: Yeah -- but they'll probably ruin it :-( |
20:19.23 | youtah | this had better not be a hoaz |
20:19.25 | youtah | hoax |
20:19.47 | youtah | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1731141/ |
20:20.03 | jsmith | youtah: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1731141/?ref_=sr_1 |
20:20.08 | jsmith | Ahh, you beat me |
20:20.10 | youtah | lol |
20:20.16 | youtah | I had to check to see if it was real |
20:20.43 | Q_Continuum | Who wants this HP J3302A? |
20:20.50 | youtah | With Harrison Ford. Why did they not do this, like... it's... it's about bloody time! |
20:21.18 | youtah | Does it work Q_Continuum |
20:21.21 | Q_Continuum | HP J3302A = ProCurve 10Base-T Hub, 24-port. |
20:21.23 | Q_Continuum | I have no idea. |
20:21.31 | Q_Continuum | Its sitting on top of the rack of in-use gear. |
20:21.35 | youtah | eh |
20:21.40 | Q_Continuum | There are also some AGP-based Shutle boxes |
20:21.44 | Q_Continuum | and a dozen CRTs |
20:22.07 | youtah | I probably have enough hubs already. They're all 10Base-T thoguh |
20:22.16 | Q_Continuum | But have you a 24-port one? |
20:22.17 | Q_Continuum | lol |
20:22.22 | youtah | no, lol] |
20:22.25 | spangborn | Your mom is a hub. |
20:22.27 | Q_Continuum | Just imagine the bandwidth! |
20:22.37 | Q_Continuum | spangborn: ... |
20:22.41 | youtah | lol |
20:22.51 | spangborn | Could have been worse. |
20:22.55 | spangborn | I could have specified how many ports. |
20:22.56 | youtah | TWSS |
20:23.46 | youtah | jsmith, it's in post production!!! That mean's they've already filmed it!!! YES!!! |
20:26.20 | spangborn | enables sourcemaps in Chrome |
20:31.26 | spangborn | Who wants to buy me a firetruck? |
20:32.35 | youtah | http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=874366 |
20:33.00 | jima | spangborn: my last employer bought a fire truck |
20:33.10 | spangborn | Was your employer Firehouse car wash? ;p |
20:33.11 | youtah | spangborn, http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=871743 |
20:33.48 | spangborn | There's a guy on Hacker News that scored a running one for like $3600 |
20:34.08 | youtah | That link is for one, for like $3500 |
20:34.28 | spangborn | Haha, nice. |
20:36.18 | mheath | I'm surprised they sell trucks that are in that new / seemingly good condition |
20:36.32 | Tene | Just imagine the bandwidth of a fire truck full of backup tapes. |
20:36.36 | spangborn | Especially considering the limited number of miles |
20:36.55 | youtah | they probably can't afford to keep it due to budget cuts. My guess |
20:37.02 | mheath | I read one thing that said a lot of FDs are constnatly hurting for decent equipment |
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20:37.11 | mheath | Some small town fire depts use trucks from the 70s |
20:37.33 | youtah | The fire truck for my cabin owner association (which I get to drive, woot!) is from the 70's |
20:37.43 | youtah | and has a two man water pump crank on the back |
20:38.15 | mheath | youtah: is that just a backup? theres no electrical pump at all? |
20:38.37 | youtah | It doesn't work |
20:38.57 | youtah | we fire it up, clean it, etc... every 6 months |
20:39.10 | youtah | and do all the hydrant and hose checks once a year |
20:39.41 | youtah | we charge the hoses and let the kids try (with out help obviously) spraying it. Good times. \ |
20:39.45 | Q_Continuum | Yeah...that would explain why the network shits itself when Lync talks. |
20:39.57 | Q_Continuum | blames the router |
20:40.07 | mheath | youtah: I'm willing to bet that if anyones cabin actually catches fire, its probably toast :) |
20:40.19 | youtah | Yup, this is to keep the cabin next to it wet |
20:40.27 | spangborn | Literally. |
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20:40.35 | spangborn | I will be putting pieces of bread inside it. |
20:40.59 | mheath | What the heck is the point of having a cabin, if your cabin is *next to* someone elses cabin? :D |
20:41.37 | youtah | they're probably 500' apart, but ash flies |
20:41.56 | mheath | That still seems crazy close |
20:42.10 | youtah | Several of the lots are still undeveloped |
20:42.25 | mheath | Our cabin and property is in Colorado. In non-incorporated-city areas of Colorado, they require that cabins are on a minimum of 35 acres |
20:42.29 | youtah | we've had the cabin (overlooks soldier creek res) for 24 years now |
20:43.59 | mheath | We've had our cabin for about 70 years now |
20:44.10 | mheath | Thought he cabin itself is about 120 years old |
20:44.22 | spangborn | I've had my cabin since the Donner Party. |
20:44.30 | spangborn | <PROTECTED> |
20:44.57 | mheath | spangborn: Did it come pre-stocked with a selection of dried and cured meats? |
20:44.59 | mheath | :D |
20:45.07 | spangborn | Oh yes. |
20:45.09 | spangborn | Nature's finest |
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20:45.25 | youtah | reminds me, we need more turn out gear and to get someone with a tractor and a chain whip to take care of all the sagebrush this year |
20:45.28 | mheath | Q_Continuum: Lync is a mysterious mess of a service. I'm sorry you have to deal with it. |
20:45.45 | Q_Continuum | mheath: No, in this case I will blame the Cisco 2611 Router. |
20:45.59 | Q_Continuum | That runs the T1. |
20:46.05 | Q_Continuum | And is the default path for the office. |
20:46.06 | mheath | Fair enough, but to me thats precisely what makes Lync so messy. Telling if its the service or the network is almsot impossible. |
20:46.18 | Q_Continuum | 10Mbit interface. |
20:46.25 | Q_Continuum | Siblings carried Token Ring. |
20:46.26 | mheath | Lync's documentation and specifications is so horrible.... |
20:46.36 | Q_Continuum | The router was EOL'd in 2002. |
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20:48.13 | mheath | they introduced Lync at our old office, and several of us were trying to figure out how to get the iPhone app to connect to it |
20:48.21 | mheath | It gave some generic error |
20:48.30 | mheath | Figuring out what that error meant was almost impossible |
20:49.04 | spangborn | Error: Success! |
20:49.31 | Q_Continuum | I'm just gonna blame the router from the Stone Age. |
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21:04.30 | Migs | http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/197153_433442863417338_1824494240_n.jpg |
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21:45.58 | shalkie | Here is an interesting aircraft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_Spacelines_Super_Guppy , reminds me of the Alien creature. Well the head. |
21:48.05 | jsmith | Ah, the ol' super guppy... |
21:48.26 | mheath | heh, I imagine the engineering session pretty much just went "We still need more space...keep stretching....keep stretching....keep going.....OK, good." |
21:49.33 | spangborn | That's youtah's mom's personal aircraft. |
21:49.51 | spangborn | runs |
21:49.51 | mheath | It's like a typical Calculus problem. "If the interior volume is given by a function _______, how can we maximize the interior volume if we are constrained by ____" |
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21:50.46 | JalenJade | This just reminds me that I want to go practice with my new camera at the museum (Hill) |
21:51.03 | JalenJade | Maybe that's what I'll do tomorrow |
21:51.15 | spangborn | There's also the "Pregnant Guppy" |
21:51.28 | mheath | That museum is a lot of fun. |
21:51.56 | spangborn | Or the Airbus Beluga. |
21:54.48 | youtah | JalenJade, when are we going to try and hike to donut falls? |
21:55.25 | JalenJade | after it melts off a bit more. Probably mid-April |
21:55.38 | spangborn | Right meow. |
21:55.56 | JalenJade | Only thing I know for sure is before I go to Cali. Not going out there with that snowpack again unless I buy snowshoes |
21:56.40 | youtah | I am looking at hiking to Guardsmen Pass soon |
21:56.59 | mheath | I'd imagine Guardsmen is still pretty snowed in. |
21:57.10 | youtah | I've already hiked most of it |
21:57.32 | youtah | it's completely snow packed. Someone drove their car up on the snow, and got over the gate, and about .25 miles up before they got stuck |
21:57.50 | mheath | Me and Guardsmen's winter characteristics have a history... |
21:57.50 | JalenJade | lol |
21:58.04 | youtah | I was up there last Tuesday and I met a guy as he was hiking down (no snow shoes) that came all the way over from Park City |
21:58.09 | mheath | youtah: Yeah, I'm...not going to laugh at that story. Because my story isn't too much different :D |
21:58.38 | youtah | mheath, lol. Anyone who has ever lived, has a similair story. |
21:58.54 | youtah | Any of you guys members of SLAS? |
21:58.54 | mheath | It was fall, and I had just gotten my shiny new motorcycle, and was wanting to ride as much as possible even though the weather was getting cold |
21:59.00 | spangborn | youtah once fell in the snow up to his up, and couldn't get out. |
21:59.07 | mheath | I heard that Guardsman's Pass was a nice motorcycle ride |
21:59.09 | youtah | tis true |
21:59.11 | spangborn | *up to his hip |
21:59.16 | mheath | and didn't realize how...seasonally dependent that recommendation was |
21:59.40 | youtah | mheath, sounds like a fun photoshoot to me though |
21:59.44 | mheath | Nor did I realize, until my very-much-a-street-bike motorcyle was stuck in about a foot of snow halfway up it |
21:59.49 | mheath | I ended up literally sliding down the mountain |
22:00.28 | youtah | sounds scary |
22:01.12 | youtah | So no SLAS members? |
22:01.31 | youtah | I am meeting up with one of the older SLAS members, and taking photos of the comet |
22:01.43 | youtah | He just got a Nikon mount for his telescopes |
22:01.48 | spangborn | society for labratory and automation and screening? |
22:01.58 | JalenJade | That sounds like fun |
22:02.00 | youtah | Salt Lake Astronomical Society |
22:02.05 | spangborn | s/and automation/automation/ |
22:02.20 | spangborn | They need a new website. |
22:03.04 | spangborn | Are you referring to Ryan? |
22:03.53 | JalenJade | Is he a member? |
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22:06.18 | jalbretsen | Did someone say Astronomy? |
22:06.22 | jalbretsen | perks up |
22:06.38 | JalenJade | I'm going to Phil Platt's lecture on the 11th |
22:06.52 | jalbretsen | Phil will be in Utah? Where? |
22:06.59 | JalenJade | the planetarium |
22:07.10 | jalbretsen | I can think of 4 planetariums in Utah. ;) |
22:07.14 | JalenJade | clark |
22:07.57 | jalbretsen | tempting tempting. I missed Brain Greene's lecture a while back |
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22:12.57 | jalbretsen | youtah: Last I checked the OAS was pretty active. I'm a member in my heart, but I've never gone to anything. |
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22:13.36 | youtah | jalbretsen, that's pretty much how I am. |
22:14.10 | jalbretsen | oh wait, I went to an activity that was co-sponsored by Weber back during a Mars opposition |
22:14.19 | jalbretsen | at Antelope Island |
22:14.49 | youtah | yeah, I'm planning on using some of the telescopes to video Jupiter and then stack the frames |
22:15.06 | youtah | Jupiter is in an excellent position in the sky right now |
22:15.33 | jalbretsen | I know one active member of OAS that I worked with that is a BSD / Linux guy. He posts sometimes on SLLUG |
22:16.26 | jalbretsen | I never did any of the fancy amateur picture taking stuff like you are doing. I always wanted to learn, just no time. |
22:16.33 | jalbretsen | I learned all the book smarts stuff |
22:16.38 | youtah | OAS has a better website than SLAS |
22:16.59 | youtah | That is at first glance |
22:17.22 | jalbretsen | now I teach all the book smarts stuff as a side gig: http://physics.weber.edu/albretsen/ |
22:18.07 | jalbretsen | I guess I did a 3 color image on BYU's telescope, dunno if that counts as much. |
22:18.37 | youtah | uh, heck yes! |
22:19.22 | youtah | jalbretsen, the guy I am going with now has the 2nd largest refracting telescope in Utah. It used to be the largest for decades, up until like 2006 |
22:19.41 | jalbretsen | Nice, how big? |
22:19.53 | youtah | It's 11" in diameter and something like 17 feet long |
22:20.09 | jalbretsen | ya, refracting telescopes get long |
22:20.30 | youtah | I think it is an original Gautier and Henry |
22:21.02 | youtah | I think |
22:21.04 | youtah | I can't remember |
22:21.10 | youtah | I know that two brothers built it |
22:21.18 | youtah | and they were from Europe |
22:22.06 | jalbretsen | can they getting good images out of it with out much correction? |
22:22.41 | jalbretsen | chromatic aberration |
22:22.51 | youtah | Oh, I lied |
22:22.55 | youtah | errr, was wrong |
22:23.06 | youtah | It was an Alvan Clark from 1915 |
22:23.23 | youtah | and it's a 9 inch in diameter |
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