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18:01.13HeartsbaneRegex Crossword: http://www.coinheist.com/rubik/a_regular_crossword/grid.pdf
18:03.11fozzmooWow. That's evil.
18:03.34HeartsbaneThe best things in life usually are
18:03.43goozbachwow
18:04.55shalkieYikes!
18:05.17shalkieI have 50 cents and a cup of coffee to the person that rights a PHP script to solve it. :-)
18:05.19goozbachtwo words: woo hoo! http://ohjeezlinux.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/vim-syntax-hilighting-for-kickstart-files/
18:05.44shalkieNice!
18:08.59findlaythat's awesome
18:09.07findlaythe regex thing
18:09.13findlayvim highlighting is awesome too
18:09.42fozzmooMaybe we should rename the channel to #utah-awesome
18:10.15findlayfozzmoo-awesome
18:10.38findlaygit checkout awesome
18:14.02harleypigHeartsbane: ... that's pretty cool
18:14.26harleypigfozzmoo: that's redundant
18:15.07fozzmooharleypig: Well, you know how I can be.
18:15.49findlayrepetitively redundant
18:16.28findlaylevi: what are you doing?
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18:29.56harleypigfozzmoo: That's ... nm ... I forgot what I was going to say.
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18:34.36findlayforgetfully redundant
18:35.12eightyeightshalkie: so, what do i get if i solve it?
18:35.57harleypigIs it possible for /proc/net/route to have multiple gateways stored?
18:36.21harleypigI'm trying to figure out a way to determine what the gateway is in a program
18:37.07harleypigIf there will only ever be one gateway then I can just grep /proc/net/route for '0.0.0.0 \d+.\d+.\d+.\d+'
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18:42.01harleypighmmm ... looks like it's possible but not a good idea ... so for my purposes I can probably get away with this
18:51.27eightyeightyou should not have multiple gateways on the same routing table
18:51.35goozbachharleypig: route show default?
18:51.38eightyeightbut, you can have multiple routing tables, with a default gateway on each
18:53.25findlayeverything at the gateway is overpriced
19:03.18fungusharleypig, netstat -rn | awk '/^0.0.0.0/{print $2}'
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19:25.06youtahSo, ya'll
19:25.15youtahI lost my 50,000th tweet virginity last night
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19:26.44youtahSomeone just sent me this... http://cheezburger.com/7039356416?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+comixed%2FCMX+%28Comixed%29&utm_content=FaceBook
19:28.22youtahhttps://twitter.com/youtah/status/299319395346440193
19:28.47shalkieThe guy who created Yoda died.
19:30.31shalkiehttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=171309061
19:35.08youtahgood read
19:48.55findlayhunspell, aspell, or ispell?
19:52.55harleypigfungus: netstat -rn gives me the same output as route -n
19:53.20fungusnot quite, but they are very close.
19:53.46fungusI prefer using netstat myself since it seems more portable across other *nix systems.
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19:55.26joshhbut on a mac it says default instead of 0.0.0.0
20:01.11fungusYeah, output varies per *nix, but the command works on all I have tried.  Not all *nix's support the route command.
20:02.05joshhthey all do have netstat, yes
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20:16.37harleypigor, I could just parse /proc/net/route
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20:23.12youtahI hate GoDaddy
20:24.32jsmithyoutah: Funny... I know a great company you can use to get away from GoDaddy :-)
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20:25.23youtahI'm not with GoDaddy
20:25.29youtahand I still hate them
20:26.29youtahI just switched from KVCHosting to HostMonster
20:26.43youtah:-)
20:27.28fozzmoojsmith: You would.
20:28.27fungusGoDaddy does suck, but they have an amazing PR/Ad department
20:29.37jsmithyoutah: HostMonster is good enough :-)
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21:14.03shalkieharleypig: You could if your not concerned about portability. Not all *nix have /proc.
21:14.14shalkieEven those that do the format can vary.
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21:24.00Jayce^oh yeah, not sure if I ever pointed out that both youtah and jsmith are cultists...  crazy nikon folks..
21:26.58jsmithJayce^: At least it's not a cargo cult :-p
21:27.15Jayce^I've seen your bag, there's cargo in there :-p
21:27.16jsmithJayce^: (aka "my lens is worth $800 more because someone painted a red stripe around it")
21:28.05fozzmooI'm thinking of getting a mirrorless micro-four-thirds platform. I know. Instant pariah.
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21:37.05harleypigshalkie: yeah, this script will only ever be run on a centos setup we control.
21:39.16findlayis there a way to have irssi auto load a script on startup?
21:39.33findlayor execute arbitrary irc commands?
21:41.37harleypigfindlay: put the script in (or link it) .irssi/scripts/autorun
21:42.16harleypigand you can put commands to be run in the config ... though I can't remember at the moment exactly how to do that.
21:42.19harleypigIt's been awhile.
21:43.24youtahlol jsmith about the red ring
21:43.30findlayI can't seem to find any irssi config documentation
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21:44.33harleypighttp://irssi.org/beginner/ Search for autosendcmd
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21:45.09youtahWhat happens at Sundance, stays at Sundance. Unless I'm there and I have a camera
21:45.12youtahBuwa ha ha ha ha ha
21:45.39harleypigfindlay: http://irssi.org/documentation is a good start for irssi stuff
21:46.36harleypighttps://github.com/shabble/irssi-docs
21:47.03Gateyoutah: in no sense of the word is repeating an action for the 50,000th time losing any kind of virginity.
21:47.04findlayI'm starting a film festival called Moondance
21:47.27harleypigirssi is really great, but the development is raggedy and way behind.
21:47.37findlayindeed
21:48.21findlayI tried to live the gui existence, but then unity happened
21:48.31youtahROFL Gate
21:48.42joshhwhat needs to be updated with irssi?
21:48.57youtahOh heavens... You on twitter Gate? I wanna quote you on that
21:50.02findlayI switched to xfce and now am thinking about abandoning thunderbird for mutt
21:50.09harleypigjoshh: documentation
21:50.09Tenefindlay: look for autosendcmd
21:50.18joshhi won't argue there
21:50.23Teneyou can put that in a chatnet
21:53.30youtahSo, along those lines... there is Utah legislation right now, trying to make it illegal to "fling bodily fluids" at someone
21:54.14jsmithyoutah: So if I sneeze in your general direction... ???
21:55.09youtahexactly
21:56.18youtahI understand the direction and intent, but I also see serious unintended consequences
21:56.47findlayif you sneeze, yawn, fart, and hiccup all at the same time
21:56.51findlaywill you die?
21:57.30harleypigwhat about sneezing, yawning, farting, hiccuping *and* burping?
21:57.44findlaydid I get it wrong?
21:57.48youtahgoes AFK for a while... DM me via the twittersphere if you need me. (@youtah of course)
21:59.54jlp_workso when you hand your baby over to someone to hold and it barfs on them, do you go to jail or does your baby go to juvie?
22:00.13youtahBoth
22:00.34youtahwon't go there
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22:18.32Gateyoutah: yes, I am, @daniel_n_evans
22:19.01youtahFollowed
22:19.07youtahbut I already tweeted it. :-(
22:19.26Gateno problem :)
22:21.23unumso one time I went to small claims court(got the judgement, not the money) and there was this case where a woman was suing the parents of a boy who had broken a pen on her couch
22:21.38Gate-_^
22:21.42unumthe judge dismissed it claiming that she needed to the person who had actually done the act
22:21.53unums/to/to sue/
22:22.11unumbut then he said something about in criminal cases that's different
22:22.20Gatesuing someone over a couch cusion?
22:22.58unumwell I think it got smeared on more than the cushion, but ya she pretty much ruined her boys friendship with this kid over this
22:25.02unumhttp://le.utah.gov/~2013/bills/sbillint/SB0098.htm
22:25.40unumI know that guy
22:26.00unumthe senator sponsering it
22:26.57unum<PROTECTED>
22:27.17youtahHow cold does the air/liquid get from a can of canned air, when sprayed upside down?
22:27.27youtahThis is important stuff, ya'll!
22:27.35Teneyou should measure it with your tongue
22:28.08youtahMan thawts cwold!
22:29.00unumI actually thought spitting at people could be charged as assualt....
22:29.09unumI watch too many legal dramas.....
22:29.35Migsunum: Did someone spit on him or something? And this is his way of "getting back?"
22:30.20youtahWhoa... wait.... Derek Brown is the house Sponsor?
22:30.23youtahI need to chat with him
22:30.36youtahHe's my Rep! (I also photographed him last week)
22:31.29youtahI understand the reasoning behind it... but I am still afraid it may be too broad
22:32.16youtah"Any person who knowingly or intentionally throws"
22:32.26youtahI knowingly spit a sunflower seed out of my car
22:34.26youtahDude, it also states anything that is an infectious agent
22:34.31youtahas defined in Section 26-6-2
22:34.37youtahhttp://le.utah.gov/code/TITLE26/htm/26_06_000200.htm
22:35.20youtah(12) "Infectious agent" means an organism such as a virus, rickettsia, bacteria, fungus, protozoan, or helminth that is capable of producing infection or infectious disease.
22:35.41funguslooks up
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22:36.04youtahhelminth is a parasitic worm
22:37.22youtahokay, I am okay with said bill. Seems to be solid enough
22:38.01youtahbut if you get stung by a Jellyfish, in Utah, I ain't urinating on the sting....
22:38.56shalkieunum: It is battery, some states provide specific charges because of infections agents. This is mainly done for the benefit of 1st responders (paramedics and cops) who deal with people that might spit on them all the time.
22:39.33shalkieThey deal with those sorts all the time. They don't spit on them all the time.
22:39.52shalkieNo one would be a cop if that happened.
22:40.06shalkieJust imagine that job description... :-(
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22:54.25GateMy brother was telling me he doesn't like going places in Uniform if he doesn't have to, because people do things like spit in his food.
22:54.47jima"I also photographed him last week" how did his mistress feel about the photographs?
22:54.47jima(caveat: i'm joking. don't sue me.)
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22:55.09jimawhat uniform? mailman?
22:55.13Gatetoo late. The wheels have started turning.
22:55.19GateGame Warden
22:55.33Gateand Sherrif's deputy
22:55.49jimaall the downsides of a regular police uniform, none of the benefits?
22:55.57jimawell. never mind then.
22:56.27Gatemeh. All people see is the badge and the gun, I think.
22:56.51jima-> PIG
22:56.56jima(i imagine?)
22:57.34GateI'm sure. It is the exact opposite reaction I have to cops.
22:57.36jimahere i'm more like "ho hum, someone with a gun. oh! they have a badge, too."
22:58.12Q_Continuum^
22:58.22Q_ContinuumThen again, I'm used to seeing that. lol
22:58.37Q_ContinuumMaybe because I went to the Gopher Bar & Grill in St. Paul too much
22:58.58jimas/the Gopher Bar & Grill in //
22:59.13jimait's st. paul, of course people be packin'. ;-)
22:59.19Q_Continuumlol
22:59.22GateI remember being in a restaurant and seing a gun through some gentlemen's jacket, thinking "that's crappy concealment, you can get cited for... oh, there's a badge next to it"
22:59.25Q_ContinuumNo, the Gopher especially.
22:59.39Q_ContinuumGate: Hrm, crappy concealment = cited?
23:00.03Q_ContinuumIn MN, the permit didn't specify method of carry (open or concealed)
23:00.09Q_ContinuumSo it didn't matter at all.
23:00.16GateQ_Continuum: in some states (I'm not recalling if Utah is one of them) people seeing a gun which is loaded and supposed to be concealed can be considered brandishing
23:00.40GateOpen carry in Utah has to be 2-steps-compliant, IIRC
23:01.16Q_ContinuumMN didn't have a no-permit-carry system
23:01.32GateAh, so you must have a permit even to open carry?
23:01.37Q_ContinuumYup
23:01.41Q_ContinuumBut then it didn't matter how you carried
23:01.52Q_Continuumand they wrote it that way after looking at all the other states and how they screwed it up
23:02.13Gategotcha. I'm trying like hell to remember which state considered the sight of a concealed gun brandishing, I want to say it was AZ
23:02.15Q_ContinuumMethod wasn't mentioned so if you were concealing and say, your jacket blew open, you weren't immediately guilty of crimes.  (In Texas, you would be)
23:02.49Q_ContinuumI need to take a class for here and apply, but ideally fit 2 others in with me in the class.  Timing on that will be fun.
23:03.06fozzmoohttp://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/
23:04.55Q_Continuums/Timing/coordinating
23:05.14Q_ContinuumWhat is the guesstimate time to getting that back after applying?
23:06.35Q_Continuum(Here in Utah?)
23:06.52Q_ContinuumIn MN they have a statutory limit of 30 days.
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23:16.09Gate90 days I think, but they *might* take longer
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23:16.36GateUtah winds up processing a lot of permits for out-of-staters
23:18.10Q_ContinuumThat is rather slow.  You'd think they'd throw more resources at it to be more response to citizens requests.
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23:40.06youtahHeh
23:40.24youtahmy realtor said that EVERYONE has complained about the Shag, orange, carpet in the basement so far.
23:40.31youtahLooks like I'm going shopping tonight.
23:41.07spangbornLawl
23:41.20youtahChange the description, telling them that it was imported from a famous hipster lounge in San Francisco?
23:41.29youtahthat makes it like... awesome, right?
23:42.16romanovicyoutah: you're selling? have you gotten a new place yet?
23:42.25youtahNo new place yet
23:42.28youtahwe're building
23:42.31romanovicooh
23:42.35youtahwe have temp living arrangements already made
23:42.50youtahThese are probably the same people you see on HGTV that whine about the paint color
23:43.12youtah"The whole house is absolutely perfect, except for the paint color in the bathroom?! The house is garbage now!"
23:43.22youtah"Um,  why don't you paint it?"
23:43.32youtah"Nooooooo! Garbage I tell you! The house is ruined!"
23:45.16romanovichaha.  its funny how cosmetics add or take away "value" when it comes to selling houses
23:45.24youtahyeah
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23:45.46GateMy mother is shopping for a house in Toelle, and the one that "feels like home" to her has foundation cracks.....
23:45.47youtahI'm sitting here thinking, for $300, and that includes installation, I can replace the 200 square feet of carpet
23:46.19youtahHeh, we have a big crack in ours, but it's never leaked, and it appears to have been treated.
23:46.27youtahfrom the outside
23:46.41youtahIt's never leaked in the 5.5 years I've been in the home

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