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02:09.30 | harleypig | BYOB ... bring your own bullshit |
02:11.56 | harleypig | err ... Bologna? Boulibase? Botulism? Born Again? Bile? Bullion? |
02:12.28 | harleypig | Barium? |
02:12.49 | harleypig | Ben-Gay |
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04:46.40 | Q_Continuum | youtah: I hit a Maverik tonight, the terribad nachos were DELICIOUS |
04:48.06 | Q_Continuum | And I did it right, had to pile on the cheez onto the last chip. |
04:48.11 | Q_Continuum | that was leftover |
04:54.01 | findlay | eightyeight: I've been busy |
04:54.13 | findlay | my students think I'm awesome, though |
04:54.40 | eightyeight | because you are! |
04:55.23 | eightyeight | what are you teaching? |
04:57.14 | findlay | phys 2220 (this semester) |
05:07.57 | levi | Wow, professor findlay. Scary! :) |
05:22.56 | Migs | I'm going to take your class and be the designated heckler |
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06:55.25 | findlay | levi: it's frenzied, harried graduate student findlay |
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16:26.21 | fadein | any pentadactyl users here? |
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16:51.59 | youtah | fadein what did you call my sister? |
16:57.13 | fadein | youtah: I called her a 1337 h4X0r for using the very best in firefox plugins |
16:57.23 | youtah | lol, ah okay |
16:57.52 | youtah | Mr President... I'm fairly certain that is holding more than 10 ounces.... http://i.imgur.com/fTwtii4.jpg |
16:58.10 | fadein | Pentadactyl's devs haven't updated the plugin in months, and it doesn't work in modern FireFoxes |
16:58.18 | Q_Continuum | youtah: hahahahaha |
16:58.26 | youtah | btw, I want that house |
16:58.44 | Q_Continuum | That does look really good |
16:58.47 | Q_Continuum | I love the look of stone |
16:58.51 | youtah | exactly |
16:58.55 | youtah | I LOVE stone |
16:59.09 | youtah | we were debating on going with Dry stacked Stone on the outside of our house |
16:59.23 | youtah | or do a larger mixed stone |
17:00.02 | youtah | Reminds me... I need to email the lady and tell her we want to change the tile in the bathroom downstairs |
17:00.06 | Q_Continuum | Stacked is re-doable/changable later |
17:00.18 | Q_Continuum | PITA, but doable. |
17:00.52 | youtah | PITA? |
17:01.00 | Q_Continuum | Pain In The Ass |
17:01.23 | shalkie | Ah crap. I have to throw all my Pita bread out. :-( |
17:01.26 | youtah | Ah |
17:01.28 | youtah | gota ya |
17:01.29 | youtah | got ya |
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17:01.39 | Q_Continuum | btw those terrible nachos were delicious |
17:01.44 | Q_Continuum | got some last night at another location |
17:01.50 | youtah | at 7-11? |
17:01.55 | Q_Continuum | Although now that i think of them I want more |
17:01.59 | Q_Continuum | Maverik |
17:02.19 | youtah | The cheese is like some something shot out of a silicon gun, but so delicious |
17:04.05 | Q_Continuum | Yes |
17:04.35 | youtah | jlp_work just taught me what WOMM certified means |
17:14.41 | jlp_work | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/03/the-works-on-my-machine-certification-program.html |
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17:21.39 | shalkie | The sticker is way over priced... But the mug... :-) |
17:22.21 | youtah | shalkie |
17:22.33 | youtah | can you imagine... someone comes to your desk to complain |
17:22.40 | youtah | and you simply sit back and take a sip? |
17:22.42 | youtah | LOL |
17:22.55 | Q_Continuum | Looks like the mug is too small though. |
17:23.03 | Q_Continuum | I have a 14oz Black Mesa mug |
17:23.09 | Q_Continuum | that one looks like a 12oz |
17:25.53 | Q_Continuum | Hrm, gonna need a mug holder if I get more. |
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17:28.51 | youtah | Oh, I see your problem... it's right there. Half of your wheel is missing... http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/JB_Nosewheel.jpg |
17:29.41 | goozbach | what is that from? |
17:29.52 | youtah | link coming soon..... |
17:30.32 | youtah | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Lmfcma0ZI |
17:31.01 | youtah | make sure to read the description |
17:32.30 | youtah | So the landing gear rotates 90 degrees so it lays flat inside. The landing gear came down, but they failed to rotate back. |
17:32.45 | Q_Continuum | Oops. |
17:38.06 | goozbach | Jayce^: http://boingboing.net/2013/02/01/sesame-street-video-mashed-up.html |
17:52.21 | youtah | ROFL goozbach |
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18:18.38 | harleypig | Is there a simple way to get the ip address? I can parse the output of 'ip -o -4 addr show eth0' but I'm hoping there is a way to *just* output the ip address ? |
18:21.37 | goozbach | harleypig: what are the limitations? |
18:21.41 | goozbach | facter is an option |
18:21.51 | goozbach | the other question is which ip address? |
18:21.58 | goozbach | the ip address of the default route? |
18:22.13 | goozbach | or otherwise |
18:22.15 | goozbach | ? |
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18:42.08 | harleypig | ... ip -o -4 addr show eth0 shows 2: eth0 inet 10.1.32.155/16 brd 10.1.255.255 scope global eth0 ... all I want is the 10.1.32.155 |
18:43.36 | tvc123 | pipe it to cut? |
18:44.26 | harleypig | tvc123: I can use awk, sed or even perl. But I was hoping for a simple command with no pipes. |
18:45.42 | tvc123 | it seems like even in c you have to parse to get that info so I'm guessing you are going to have to pipe |
18:51.31 | goozbach | truthfully an IP address isn't useful without a netmask |
18:52.39 | harleypig | sure it is, if you have to set a configuration file variable with the ip |
19:08.54 | mindjuju | anybody know of a computer part store around these parts (SLC / Utah Valley), looking for motherboard + CPU |
19:33.40 | unum | I really wish posh would set up job down in these parts again |
19:41.50 | unum | s/job/shop |
19:42.14 | unum | I've found my self playing sim city 4 lately |
19:56.38 | fungus | unum, posh? You referring to Victoria Beckham? |
20:00.06 | shalkie | mindjuju: That seems to be a reoccuring quesiton on SLLUG/PLUG lists. I can't remember them all and searching the lists would probably give you the best results. |
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20:35.14 | unum | fungus: no Mike Henrie |
20:35.28 | unum | posh electronics in Logan Utah they used to have a shop in Utah Valley |
20:37.50 | fungus | ah, haven't heard of them. Interesting. Definitely not a Spice Girl |
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21:14.44 | youtah | goozbach.... I am still in love with http://vimeo.com/27009580 |
21:15.48 | goozbach | +1 |
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21:39.02 | shalkie | http://t.co/QYoIYx8D <- Mathematically perfect nachos (article title. I haven't proofed yet. :-) |
21:39.30 | shalkie | is not the author but will probably become a consumer in near future. :-) |
21:40.59 | shalkie | I just missed Ben Folds Five! |
21:41.01 | shalkie | :-( |
21:41.03 | Jayce^ | I've seen others do it similarly, and it can work pretty well |
21:43.55 | youtah | I liked the comment "man after all that - would you cry if I told you there's a thing called Tostitos Scoops that already do that?" |
21:48.31 | Jayce^ | I liked: This recipe is an affront to nachos, whose whole point (along with being delicious) is that they are easy to make. |
21:48.34 | Jayce^ | Here's a better idea: Take bag of chips, put them on a plate. Put a TON of cheese on them. I mean a ton. Cover the whole damn plate up. Dice up some jalapeno peppers and spread them all over the top of the cheese. Melt the cheese (oven or microwave, whatever). Have salsa on the side. Eat. |
21:48.48 | shalkie | I liked: The top 10% of chips get 90% of the toppings! #occupynachos |
21:49.28 | youtah | I like this one best.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKxhI4I5kq8 |
21:50.05 | shalkie | I don't think I would have used the oil. |
21:52.49 | youtah | Seriously though... I've made this before, the exact same way. Simple. Easy. Delicious! |
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21:53.30 | Q_Continuum | Buy Nacho Cheese pump. Set up. Install Nacho Cheese. Buy Chips, put on plate, push button recieve cheese. WIN. |
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21:57.44 | unum | I'm going to share this in here as just because it I feel like he says what I've been trying to say -> http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-28-2013/exclusive---bob-costas-extended-interview-pt--1 |
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22:28.41 | Gate | unum: in the first 30s he lost a lot of credibility. |
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22:29.35 | Gate | he effectively called everyone who disagrees with him insane. |
22:31.02 | unum | Gate: true |
22:31.18 | unum | but most people do agree with him |
22:31.28 | unum | so it's only about 10% of the population he's calling insane |
22:31.38 | Gate | I can listen to the rest later, but he's going to have a hard time convincing me he's not just another asshole capitalizing on the actions of a monster at this point. |
22:32.22 | Gate | unum: I'd have to listen to the rest of his argument, but I think the number is much higher than that. |
22:32.37 | Jayce^ | "most" of his group of friends |
22:32.56 | Jayce^ | it's a "political most" |
22:33.11 | unum | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57566920-10391739/strong-support-for-more-gun-background-checks-poll-shows/ |
22:33.33 | Q_Continuum | Uh huh |
22:33.35 | Gate | well, if you're going to go off "my group of friends" we are at 100% disagreement with him, so your arugment is invalid..... |
22:33.38 | unum | less than 10% of the population oppose background checks |
22:33.40 | Q_Continuum | I want to see the questions they used for the poll. |
22:34.03 | Gate | actually, I suppose I still have a few liberal friends, so 90% disagreement :) |
22:34.05 | Q_Continuum | Any poll can be worded to get the answer you want. |
22:34.12 | Gate | Yep. |
22:34.16 | Jayce^ | hehe... "gun show loophole" discussion already proves they don't know what they are talking about |
22:34.22 | Gate | Lies, damned lies, and statistics and all that |
22:34.25 | Q_Continuum | ^ |
22:36.24 | unum | so anyone who states anything you disagree with is lying? |
22:39.35 | Jayce^ | what inflation... http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CURRCIR |
22:40.39 | Q_Continuum | No, just polls and statistics can *easily* be manipulated. |
22:40.59 | Q_Continuum | packs up for GTFO tiem |
22:41.16 | Jayce^ | and a small poll in a couple states barely constitutes broad majority :) |
22:41.21 | Jayce^ | agreed on the GTFO |
22:41.30 | unum | most polls only include 600 people |
22:41.35 | Jayce^ | so past mental checkout |
22:41.37 | unum | any more than that and you are wasting money |
22:41.40 | Jayce^ | hence the ease of manipulation |
22:42.17 | unum | were you trying to prove that point with your graph? |
22:42.23 | Jayce^ | and that's near proportianally similar to me plotting our business decisions on sample usage of 600 of our accounts |
22:42.40 | Jayce^ | unum: the fun of our federal economic policies |
22:42.41 | unum | depends on how you select those 600 acounts |
22:43.14 | Jayce^ | unum: by selecting, I can say all sorts of things, but by broadening I can say things much more accurately |
22:43.33 | unum | by broadening your wasting time/money |
22:43.38 | Jayce^ | and in the work I do, I can't sample, I have to prove things |
22:43.50 | unum | by properly selecting you can get accurate results at much lower cost |
22:44.10 | Jayce^ | and you can easily give an answer that somebody wants as well |
22:44.11 | unum | do you think the entire field of statisics are a fraud |
22:44.22 | Jayce^ | hence the previous discussions |
22:44.26 | unum | you can do that while looking at all the data |
22:44.36 | Jayce^ | unum: no, just easily manipulated |
22:44.41 | unum | you can also get the truth through sampling |
22:44.51 | Q_Continuum | Very easily manipulated by the wording of the questions. |
22:45.12 | unum | you can get the results you want by looking at all the data wrong and you can get correct answers by proper sampling |
22:45.18 | Jayce^ | you can get ideas, and indicators.. you can not prove truth, especially on questions like that |
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22:45.54 | unum | we're talking a soft science, you never "prove truth" in the soft sciences |
22:48.20 | Q_Continuum | heads home |
22:50.39 | unum | anyways it's the part about grabbing guns to confront your girlfriend about cheating that gets me |
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22:57.35 | fadein | bob's argument about football players owning firearms leads me to the conclusion that outlawing football would prevent more tragedies than outlawing guns |
23:03.07 | unum | fadein: I have that opinion to |
23:03.30 | unum | cancelling aggie football and basketball would drop the number of crimes committed in cache valley substantionally |
23:03.49 | Yorokobi | Or move them to other venues |
23:03.57 | Yorokobi | (the criminals, that is) |
23:03.57 | fadein | unum: heh, making some of the players live outside of the valley could do that, too |
23:04.02 | unum | Yorokobi: yes they would happen where those people go |
23:04.25 | unum | fadein: the party's need to happen out side the valley |
23:04.41 | unum | a lot of sexual assualts revolve around after parties |
23:11.28 | Gate | unum: Nope. I'm saying that statistics are tortured regularly and manipulated to say whatever the person wants them to say. Large numbers of people on every side are guilty of it. Agreeing with me or not. |
23:14.22 | Gate | unum: so because some people commit a crime we should ban the tools for that crime? Lets ban high-capacity hypodermic needles. Lets ban high-capacity gas tanks. |
23:15.57 | Gate | high-capacity cordless drill batteries! |
23:16.25 | youtah | Here ya go Jayce^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gik_VHwIuo |
23:16.27 | fadein | Gate: clearly, they are the problem. |
23:16.51 | Gate | Yep. You can go right through a locked door like it was cardboard. Gotta ban those. |
23:17.03 | unum | Gate: who said anything about banning anything |
23:17.22 | Gate | unum: the first 30s of that interview. |
23:17.30 | unum | oh iguess he did say high capicity magazines |
23:17.34 | unum | I keep forgetting about that |
23:17.41 | Gate | Yep, which I am mocking relentlessly |
23:18.24 | unum | well anyways I still believe you are in the minority |
23:18.36 | youtah | seriously though... watch the youtube video |
23:19.28 | unum | but we do control access to explosives, tanks, bazzookas |
23:19.33 | Gate | unum: I don't doubt that I am. But I'm in the minority who want the government to f*** off. |
23:19.42 | unum | Gate: yes you are |
23:20.20 | unum | we also limit access to poisions and certain radio active materials |
23:25.03 | jlp_work | Great video youtah. Everyone should watch this. |
23:30.26 | fozzmoo | Yup. |
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23:30.40 | Gate | interesting video |
23:31.12 | fozzmoo | The Feinstein legislation talks about banning anything 'with a pistol grip.' |
23:31.27 | fozzmoo | You know, because that's scary. |
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23:32.47 | macnewbold | oh gee whiz |
23:33.35 | youtah | My friends *school* (I cannot remember if he said Elementary or Middle) had a shooting range in the basement. They would walk to shoot with their guns and leave them by their backpacks. |
23:33.50 | youtah | Then during PE or after school, they were allowed to use the shooting range. |
23:34.14 | youtah | No mass shootings. No accidents. Everyone understood them, and respected them. |
23:34.28 | youtah | My friend is about 40 years old and went to school in Midvale. |
23:34.37 | youtah | I should ask him which school it was. |
23:34.42 | jlp_work | we had a gun club in my high school. |
23:35.13 | Yorokobi | Education and respect are the best forms of gun control |
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23:36.29 | youtah | You shouldn't have to gun proof homes. Because not all homes are with in your control, and you can't gun proof all of them. You need to gun proof your child. |
23:37.37 | youtah | going back to the decay of society.... >> http://www.ksl.com/?sid=23927292&nid=148&title=elementary-teacher-arrested-for-using-heroin-at-school&fm=home_page&s_cid=featured-1 |
23:38.36 | Yorokobi | Be sure to place blame on the syringe. If he didn't have access to syringes he (or she) couldn't use heroine in a "Drug Free" school. |
23:38.48 | youtah | lol |
23:39.15 | youtah | at least all syringes over 10mil right? |
23:39.37 | youtah | sorry, 10 mL |
23:39.38 | Yorokobi | Exactly |
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23:56.08 | youtah | And on that note.... I'll just leave this right here: http://i.imgur.com/tCWvIJt.gif |
23:59.18 | shalkie | Since it was reported that the last (that I know of) guns for cash exchange in LA resulted in the drop off of an RPG or Rocket Launcher, I think I should be able to buy one for self defense. Clearly they are on the streets. |
23:59.34 | youtah | Agreed |
23:59.54 | youtah | ;-) |