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02:09.30harleypigBYOB ... bring your own bullshit
02:11.56harleypigerr ... Bologna? Boulibase? Botulism? Born Again? Bile? Bullion?
02:12.28harleypigBarium?
02:12.49harleypigBen-Gay
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04:46.40Q_Continuumyoutah: I hit a Maverik tonight, the terribad nachos were DELICIOUS
04:48.06Q_ContinuumAnd I did it right, had to pile on the cheez onto the last chip.
04:48.11Q_Continuumthat was leftover
04:54.01findlayeightyeight: I've been busy
04:54.13findlaymy students think I'm awesome, though
04:54.40eightyeightbecause you are!
04:55.23eightyeightwhat are you teaching?
04:57.14findlayphys 2220 (this semester)
05:07.57leviWow, professor findlay.  Scary! :)
05:22.56MigsI'm going to take your class and be the designated heckler
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06:55.25findlaylevi: it's frenzied, harried graduate student findlay
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16:26.21fadeinany pentadactyl users here?
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16:51.59youtahfadein what did you call my sister?
16:57.13fadeinyoutah: I called her a 1337 h4X0r for using the very best in firefox plugins
16:57.23youtahlol, ah okay
16:57.52youtahMr President... I'm fairly certain that is holding more than 10 ounces.... http://i.imgur.com/fTwtii4.jpg
16:58.10fadeinPentadactyl's devs haven't updated the plugin in months, and it doesn't work in modern FireFoxes
16:58.18Q_Continuumyoutah: hahahahaha
16:58.26youtahbtw, I want that house
16:58.44Q_ContinuumThat does look really good
16:58.47Q_ContinuumI love the look of stone
16:58.51youtahexactly
16:58.55youtahI LOVE stone
16:59.09youtahwe were debating on going with Dry stacked Stone on the outside of our house
16:59.23youtahor do a larger mixed stone
17:00.02youtahReminds me... I need to email the lady and tell her we want to change the tile in the bathroom downstairs
17:00.06Q_ContinuumStacked is re-doable/changable later
17:00.18Q_ContinuumPITA, but doable.
17:00.52youtahPITA?
17:01.00Q_ContinuumPain In The Ass
17:01.23shalkieAh crap. I have to throw all my Pita bread out. :-(
17:01.26youtahAh
17:01.28youtahgota ya
17:01.29youtahgot ya
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17:01.39Q_Continuumbtw those terrible nachos were delicious
17:01.44Q_Continuumgot some last night at another location
17:01.50youtahat 7-11?
17:01.55Q_ContinuumAlthough now that i think of them I want more
17:01.59Q_ContinuumMaverik
17:02.19youtahThe cheese is like some something shot out of a silicon gun, but so delicious
17:04.05Q_ContinuumYes
17:04.35youtahjlp_work just taught me what WOMM certified means
17:14.41jlp_workhttp://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/03/the-works-on-my-machine-certification-program.html
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17:21.39shalkieThe sticker is way over priced... But the mug... :-)
17:22.21youtahshalkie
17:22.33youtahcan you imagine... someone comes to your desk to complain
17:22.40youtahand you simply sit back and take a sip?
17:22.42youtahLOL
17:22.55Q_ContinuumLooks like the mug is too small though.
17:23.03Q_ContinuumI have a 14oz Black Mesa mug
17:23.09Q_Continuumthat one looks like a 12oz
17:25.53Q_ContinuumHrm, gonna need a mug holder if I get more.
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17:28.51youtahOh, I see your problem... it's right there. Half of your wheel is missing... http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/JB_Nosewheel.jpg
17:29.41goozbachwhat is that from?
17:29.52youtahlink coming soon.....
17:30.32youtahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Lmfcma0ZI
17:31.01youtahmake sure to read the description
17:32.30youtahSo the landing gear rotates 90 degrees so it lays flat inside. The landing gear came down, but they failed to rotate back.
17:32.45Q_ContinuumOops.
17:38.06goozbachJayce^: http://boingboing.net/2013/02/01/sesame-street-video-mashed-up.html
17:52.21youtahROFL goozbach
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18:18.38harleypigIs there a simple way to get the ip address? I can parse the output of 'ip -o -4 addr show eth0' but I'm  hoping there is a way to *just* output the ip address ?
18:21.37goozbachharleypig: what are the limitations?
18:21.41goozbachfacter is an option
18:21.51goozbachthe other question is which ip address?
18:21.58goozbachthe ip address of the default route?
18:22.13goozbachor otherwise
18:22.15goozbach?
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18:42.08harleypig... ip -o -4 addr show eth0 shows 2: eth0    inet 10.1.32.155/16 brd 10.1.255.255 scope global eth0 ... all I want is the 10.1.32.155
18:43.36tvc123pipe it to cut?
18:44.26harleypigtvc123: I can use awk, sed or even perl.  But I was hoping for a simple command with no pipes.
18:45.42tvc123it seems like even in c you have to parse to get that info so I'm guessing you are going to have to pipe
18:51.31goozbachtruthfully an IP address isn't useful without a netmask
18:52.39harleypigsure it is, if you have to set a configuration file variable with the ip
19:08.54mindjujuanybody know of a computer part store around these parts (SLC / Utah Valley), looking for motherboard + CPU
19:33.40unumI really wish posh would set up job down in these parts again
19:41.50unums/job/shop
19:42.14unumI've found my self playing sim city 4 lately
19:56.38fungusunum, posh?  You referring to Victoria Beckham?
20:00.06shalkiemindjuju: That seems to be a reoccuring quesiton on SLLUG/PLUG lists. I can't remember them all and searching the lists would probably give you the best results.
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20:35.14unumfungus: no Mike Henrie
20:35.28unumposh electronics in Logan Utah they used to have a shop in Utah Valley
20:37.50fungusah, haven't heard of them.  Interesting.  Definitely not a Spice Girl
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21:14.44youtahgoozbach.... I am still in love with http://vimeo.com/27009580
21:15.48goozbach+1
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21:39.02shalkiehttp://t.co/QYoIYx8D <- Mathematically perfect nachos (article title. I haven't proofed yet. :-)
21:39.30shalkieis not the author but will probably become a consumer in near future. :-)
21:40.59shalkieI just missed Ben Folds Five!
21:41.01shalkie:-(
21:41.03Jayce^I've seen others do it similarly, and it can work pretty well
21:43.55youtahI liked the comment "man after all that - would you cry if I told you there's a thing called Tostitos Scoops that already do that?"
21:48.31Jayce^I liked: This recipe is an affront to nachos, whose whole point (along with being delicious) is that they are easy to make.
21:48.34Jayce^Here's a better idea: Take bag of chips, put them on a plate. Put a TON of cheese on them. I mean a ton. Cover the whole damn plate up. Dice up some jalapeno peppers and spread them all over the top of the cheese. Melt the cheese (oven or microwave, whatever). Have salsa on the side. Eat.
21:48.48shalkieI liked: The top 10% of chips get 90% of the toppings! #occupynachos
21:49.28youtahI like this one best.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKxhI4I5kq8
21:50.05shalkieI don't think I would have used the oil.
21:52.49youtahSeriously though... I've made this before, the exact same way. Simple. Easy. Delicious!
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21:53.30Q_ContinuumBuy Nacho Cheese pump.  Set up.  Install Nacho Cheese.  Buy Chips, put on plate, push button recieve cheese.  WIN.
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21:57.44unumI'm going to share this in here as just because it I feel like he says what I've been trying to say -> http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-28-2013/exclusive---bob-costas-extended-interview-pt--1
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22:28.41Gateunum: in the first 30s he lost a lot of credibility.
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22:29.35Gatehe effectively called everyone who disagrees with him insane.
22:31.02unumGate: true
22:31.18unumbut most people do agree with him
22:31.28unumso it's only about 10% of the population he's calling insane
22:31.38GateI can listen to the rest later, but he's going to have a hard time convincing me he's not just another asshole capitalizing on the actions of a monster at this point.
22:32.22Gateunum: I'd have to listen to the rest of his argument, but I think the number is much higher than that.
22:32.37Jayce^"most" of his group of friends
22:32.56Jayce^it's a "political most"
22:33.11unumhttp://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57566920-10391739/strong-support-for-more-gun-background-checks-poll-shows/
22:33.33Q_ContinuumUh huh
22:33.35Gatewell, if you're going to go off "my group of friends" we are at 100% disagreement with him, so your arugment is invalid.....
22:33.38unumless than 10% of the population oppose background checks
22:33.40Q_ContinuumI want to see the questions they used for the poll.
22:34.03Gateactually, I suppose I still have a few liberal friends, so 90% disagreement :)
22:34.05Q_ContinuumAny poll can be worded to get the answer you want.
22:34.12GateYep.
22:34.16Jayce^hehe... "gun show loophole" discussion already proves they don't know what they are talking about
22:34.22GateLies, damned lies, and statistics and all that
22:34.25Q_Continuum^
22:36.24unumso anyone who states anything you disagree with is lying?
22:39.35Jayce^what inflation... http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CURRCIR
22:40.39Q_ContinuumNo, just polls and statistics can *easily* be manipulated.
22:40.59Q_Continuumpacks up for GTFO tiem
22:41.16Jayce^and a small poll in a couple states barely constitutes broad majority :)
22:41.21Jayce^agreed on the GTFO
22:41.30unummost polls only include 600 people
22:41.35Jayce^so past mental checkout
22:41.37unumany more than that and you are wasting money
22:41.40Jayce^hence the ease of manipulation
22:42.17unumwere you trying to prove that point with your graph?
22:42.23Jayce^and that's near proportianally similar to me plotting our business decisions on sample usage of 600 of our accounts
22:42.40Jayce^unum: the fun of our federal economic policies
22:42.41unumdepends on how you select those 600 acounts
22:43.14Jayce^unum: by selecting, I can say all sorts of things, but by broadening I can say things much more accurately
22:43.33unumby broadening your wasting time/money
22:43.38Jayce^and in the work I do, I can't sample, I have to prove things
22:43.50unumby properly selecting you can get accurate results at much lower cost
22:44.10Jayce^and you can easily give an answer that somebody wants as well
22:44.11unumdo you think the entire field of statisics are a fraud
22:44.22Jayce^hence the previous discussions
22:44.26unumyou can do that while looking at all the data
22:44.36Jayce^unum: no, just easily manipulated
22:44.41unumyou can also get the truth through sampling
22:44.51Q_ContinuumVery easily manipulated by the wording of the questions.
22:45.12unumyou can get the results you want by looking at all the data wrong and you can get correct answers by proper sampling
22:45.18Jayce^you can get ideas, and indicators.. you can not prove truth, especially on questions like that
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22:45.54unumwe're talking a soft science, you never "prove truth" in the soft sciences
22:48.20Q_Continuumheads home
22:50.39unumanyways it's the part about grabbing guns to confront your girlfriend about cheating that gets me
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22:57.35fadeinbob's argument about football players owning firearms leads me to the conclusion that outlawing football would prevent more tragedies than outlawing guns
23:03.07unumfadein: I have that opinion to
23:03.30unumcancelling aggie football and basketball would drop the number of crimes committed in cache valley substantionally
23:03.49YorokobiOr move them to other venues
23:03.57Yorokobi(the criminals, that is)
23:03.57fadeinunum: heh, making some of the players live outside of the valley could do that, too
23:04.02unumYorokobi: yes they would happen where those people go
23:04.25unumfadein: the party's need to happen out side the valley
23:04.41unuma lot of sexual assualts revolve around after parties
23:11.28Gateunum: Nope. I'm saying that statistics are tortured regularly and manipulated to say whatever the person wants them to say. Large numbers of people on every side are guilty of it. Agreeing with me or not.
23:14.22Gateunum: so because some people commit a crime we should ban the tools for that crime? Lets ban high-capacity hypodermic needles. Lets ban high-capacity gas tanks.
23:15.57Gatehigh-capacity cordless drill batteries!
23:16.25youtahHere ya go Jayce^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gik_VHwIuo
23:16.27fadeinGate: clearly, they are the problem.
23:16.51GateYep. You can go right through a locked door like it was cardboard. Gotta ban those.
23:17.03unumGate: who said anything about banning anything
23:17.22Gateunum: the first 30s of that interview.
23:17.30unumoh  iguess he did say high capicity magazines
23:17.34unumI keep forgetting about that
23:17.41GateYep, which I am mocking relentlessly
23:18.24unumwell anyways I still believe you are in the minority
23:18.36youtahseriously though... watch the youtube video
23:19.28unumbut we do control access to explosives, tanks, bazzookas
23:19.33Gateunum: I don't doubt that I am. But I'm in the minority who want the government to f*** off.
23:19.42unumGate: yes you are
23:20.20unumwe also limit access to poisions and certain radio active materials
23:25.03jlp_workGreat video youtah.  Everyone should watch this.
23:30.26fozzmooYup.
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23:30.40Gateinteresting video
23:31.12fozzmooThe Feinstein legislation talks about banning anything 'with a pistol grip.'
23:31.27fozzmooYou know, because that's scary.
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23:32.47macnewboldoh gee whiz
23:33.35youtahMy friends *school* (I cannot remember if he said Elementary or Middle) had a shooting range in the basement. They would walk to shoot with their guns and leave them by their backpacks.
23:33.50youtahThen during PE or after school, they were allowed to use the shooting range.
23:34.14youtahNo mass shootings. No accidents. Everyone understood them, and respected them.
23:34.28youtahMy friend is about 40 years old and went to school in Midvale.
23:34.37youtahI should ask him which school it was.
23:34.42jlp_workwe had a gun club in my high school.
23:35.13YorokobiEducation and respect are the best forms of gun control
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23:36.29youtahYou shouldn't have to gun proof homes. Because not all homes are with in your control, and you can't gun proof all of them. You need to gun proof your child.
23:37.37youtahgoing back to the decay of society.... >> http://www.ksl.com/?sid=23927292&nid=148&title=elementary-teacher-arrested-for-using-heroin-at-school&fm=home_page&s_cid=featured-1
23:38.36YorokobiBe sure to place blame on the syringe. If he didn't have access to syringes he (or she) couldn't use heroine in a "Drug Free" school.
23:38.48youtahlol
23:39.15youtahat least all syringes over 10mil right?
23:39.37youtahsorry, 10 mL
23:39.38YorokobiExactly
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23:56.08youtahAnd on that note.... I'll just leave this right here: http://i.imgur.com/tCWvIJt.gif
23:59.18shalkieSince it was reported that the last (that I know of) guns for cash exchange in LA resulted in the drop off of an RPG or Rocket Launcher, I think I should be able to buy one for self defense. Clearly they are on the streets.
23:59.34youtahAgreed
23:59.54youtah;-)

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