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| 01:03.27 | bonez2046 | How can I discover the specification level (spec 1.0, spec 2.0, etc) on a video card, when that information isn't printed or labeled on the card? |
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| 01:58.22 | eightyeight | bonez2046: what specification level are you referring to? |
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| 03:15.45 | bonez2046 | eightyeight: well, glad to answer |
| 03:17.30 | bonez2046 | when I purchased a video card for this machine several months ago, it didn't work in this machine but it ran in another. I discovered 'this' machine's PCI express slot required a video card with spec 1.0 but the card I received was a spec 2.0 card, thus it wasn't recognized by 'this' machine, but it ran fine on my other machine |
| 03:19.23 | bonez2046 | it acts as if the card isn't getting any power...and strangely, I notice that the gold foil on 2 pins on the card edge are covered about half the length of all the other pins...though i see the socket contacts do ride up the foil on both of these half covered pins |
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| 09:29.31 | gundy | veracitynetworks down anyone? |
| 09:34.14 | gundy | Confirmed. |
| 09:34.40 | gundy | Oh well. It gave me a reason to drop in an say "hi." |
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| 13:34.09 | eightyeight | bonez2046: that still doesn't answer my question: what specification level are you referring to? |
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| 14:25.56 | Q_Continuum | Random Utah-question. What is up with the big metal stars people put on their houses? Is there any local/cultural significance, or is it just a popular decoration? |
| 14:28.50 | jima | uh-oh. he asked about the stars. |
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| 14:40.41 | TodPunk | Q_Continuum: I KNOW, RIGHT?!?!?! It drives me nuts. From what I've gathered, it's just a popular decoration (why? it's ugly as hell). |
| 14:41.31 | resplin | It ranks up there with the silhouette cowboys. |
| 14:42.09 | Q_Continuum | TodPunk: Someone offline told me that maybe they're all just wishing they lived in Texas? |
| 14:42.18 | Q_Continuum | lol |
| 14:42.21 | programmerq | I don't know that I know what stars you speak of. Anyone have a pic handy? |
| 14:42.30 | programmerq | I'd probably go "oh yeah" if I saw one. |
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| 14:47.14 | resplin | Google for "barn star" |
| 14:47.27 | TodPunk | programmerq: well, they're metal, usually a dark color or silver, and they're star-shaped |
| 14:47.49 | TodPunk | http://www.outerbankscountrystore.com/servlet/the-214/barn-stars-black-12%22/Detail?gclid=CO65zOWH4LICFYdxQgodyRgAGQ |
| 14:47.50 | jima | what resplin said...the raised metal ones. |
| 14:48.03 | TodPunk | resplin has it, though, they'r barn stars |
| 14:48.04 | Q_Continuum | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnstar |
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| 14:48.53 | jima | german-american farming communities? and we haven't heard of this? |
| 14:49.07 | Q_Continuum | Yeah... |
| 14:49.14 | Q_Continuum | I'm a little confused. |
| 14:49.27 | Q_Continuum | I don't *remember* seeing them, doesn't mean I haven't. (Back in MN) |
| 14:49.46 | Q_Continuum | Then again, that side of the family wasn't german. |
| 14:49.52 | jima | they're fairly popular around here. |
| 14:50.27 | Q_Continuum | The german side was more modern in their barns. (In age, design and materials) |
| 14:50.39 | Q_Continuum | That reminds me: I need to take picture of Tree-in-Silo when I go back to visit. |
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| 15:04.01 | eightyeight | yeah... i don't get the stars |
| 15:04.04 | eightyeight | strange |
| 15:04.22 | eightyeight | and they rust, and leave an awesome impression on the house when you take them down |
| 15:04.27 | eightyeight | epic |
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| 15:26.16 | unum | but why did anglos start sticking them on their houses? |
| 15:26.56 | eightyeight | i think that's the point- they are |
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| 15:34.50 | unum | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carthage_jail_front_entrance.jpg <- barn star anchor plates |
| 15:40.54 | programmerq | someone should start one of those "list of" pages on wikipedia with a list of buildings featuring barnstars. |
| 15:41.05 | programmerq | Q_Continuum? |
| 15:41.42 | Q_Continuum | That involves effort. AND editing wikipedia. |
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| 15:47.20 | programmerq | I think the wikipedia folks don't really like those pages anyway. |
| 15:48.09 | Q_Continuum | The deletionists and "No, this is MY page, gtfo!" made me stop caring. |
| 15:49.36 | programmerq | I probably have made about two edits ever |
| 15:49.46 | programmerq | I linkified something once |
| 15:49.58 | programmerq | that was about it |
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| 16:03.17 | jima | i fixed a geotag once, i think |
| 16:04.41 | bonez2046 | eightyeight: by 'specification level' I mean in the respect of USB 1.0 versus USB 2.0, or 3.0 ... i.e., one video card spec perhaps didn't have power via the card edge, while a later one might, or one earlier spec might be running a slower bus speed versus faster on a later model specification |
| 16:06.14 | jima | oops, and one other edit that got dropped when they merged the page with another page |
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| 16:08.23 | jima | my geotag edit is still intact |
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| 17:25.31 | programmerq | so, I'm still fairly new to LVM. I just set up raid5 mode with two strips (three disks). |
| 17:25.44 | programmerq | If I wanted to add a fourth disk into the mix, is this relatively straightforward? |
| 17:26.00 | programmerq | all the guides I've used so far are pretty beginnerish, and only touch on using the raid modes in LVM |
| 17:26.09 | eightyeight | yes. it's not difficult |
| 17:26.28 | eightyeight | add the disk, the extend the volume group, and extend the logical volumes as necessary |
| 17:26.35 | programmerq | are there good lvm "official" docs? |
| 17:26.36 | eightyeight | but, if i were you, i would avoid lvm |
| 17:26.43 | programmerq | eightyeight: any particular reason? |
| 17:26.49 | eightyeight | yes- caching |
| 17:26.58 | programmerq | would you do hardware raid instead? |
| 17:27.16 | eightyeight | it's not the raid that's the problem. it's lvm. |
| 17:27.47 | eightyeight | http://serverfault.com/questions/279571/lvm-dangers-and-caveats/279577#279577 |
| 17:27.49 | eightyeight | is a good read |
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| 17:28.02 | programmerq | yeah, I just found that one when I googled for info on lvm caching problems |
| 17:28.04 | programmerq | :) |
| 17:28.18 | eightyeight | it brings awesome functionality for resizing containers, but also brings complexity to the table, and horrid caching problems |
| 17:29.09 | eightyeight | for myself, on personal hardware, i don't do separate containers |
| 17:29.18 | programmerq | I don't think I'm too overly worried about that for what I'm doing. |
| 17:29.19 | eightyeight | i put everything in /, and be done with it |
| 17:29.22 | eightyeight | including the swap file |
| 17:29.29 | programmerq | I've done the put everything in / before |
| 17:29.45 | programmerq | part of how I use my personal computer is to play with different technologies |
| 17:29.45 | eightyeight | i don't have a need to contain /var, /usr, /boot, /tmp, /home, etc |
| 17:29.55 | programmerq | I have a root and a home |
| 17:31.53 | eightyeight | if you really want to play with tech, i would recommend using zfs on liunx: http://zfsonlinux.org |
| 17:32.02 | eightyeight | you can create a bootable zfs root, that grub supports |
| 17:32.14 | eightyeight | and it has all the software raid and volume grouping builtin |
| 17:32.15 | programmerq | interesting |
| 17:32.19 | eightyeight | plus a lot more |
| 17:32.48 | eightyeight | or you could play with btrfs, although there is no compression, encryption (neither in ZoL), deduplication or parity raid |
| 17:32.49 | programmerq | last I looked into zfs, you were definitely stuck doing fuse to use zfs on linux (it's been a while) |
| 17:33.01 | eightyeight | yeah. don't use fuse. heh |
| 17:33.28 | programmerq | I figured I'd get something like a freenas box set up if I ever wanted to play with zfs |
| 17:33.41 | programmerq | but if zfsonlinux is fairly mature and stable, that might be fun too. |
| 17:33.49 | eightyeight | very mature. very stable. |
| 17:33.59 | eightyeight | i've committed production data to it, with zero issue |
| 17:34.03 | eightyeight | and plan on committing more |
| 17:41.26 | programmerq | I'd also be happy with a drobofs |
| 17:41.30 | programmerq | oh, one more question |
| 17:41.40 | programmerq | have you ever dealt with a drive failure on lvm in raid5 mode? |
| 17:42.21 | eightyeight | yes |
| 17:42.45 | eightyeight | i had a hot spare to replace the failed drive |
| 17:42.49 | eightyeight | so the data was fine |
| 17:43.31 | eightyeight | i just found the serial of the failed drive, powered down, and replaced the drive |
| 17:43.33 | eightyeight | esay as pie |
| 17:49.10 | programmerq | cool |
| 18:04.39 | errstr- | ++ to zfsonlinux, it is super easy to setup and is a much better replacement for lvm+raid |
| 18:14.10 | jima | fire drill went well; everyone survived. |
| 18:16.10 | Q_Continuum | Well, one person had trouble. "I'm not climbing 4 flights of stairs, I'm in boots!" |
| 18:16.23 | Q_Continuum | (Elevators weren't back on when everyone re-entered) |
| 18:17.11 | jima | thank goodness firefighters aren't such prima donnas. ;-) |
| 18:18.11 | Q_Continuum | Heh. |
| 18:22.29 | jima | how bad is it that i can spot that integra block no matter where i go? |
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| 18:30.23 | bonez2046 | I am upgrading wife's macbook. It is running OS 10.5.8 ... How would I upgrade to newer OS release? |
| 18:30.40 | bonez2046 | I mean, aside from going to a mac store |
| 18:30.49 | eightyeight | purchase the software |
| 18:30.53 | eightyeight | install |
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| 18:31.41 | bonez2046 | that's too obvious...I assume visit apple.com and find the d/l upgrade and go from there? |
| 18:31.42 | jima | eightyeight: wait wait wait...what kind of capitalistic crap is this? |
| 18:32.05 | eightyeight | ? |
| 18:33.10 | jima | :-) |
| 18:33.25 | eightyeight | i have deep internal conflicts, that i haven't personally settled yet |
| 18:33.35 | eightyeight | i am fighting for copyright and patent reform |
| 18:34.21 | eightyeight | and the letter from birmingham jail by dr. martin luther king, jr. makes me want to disobey unjust laws |
| 18:34.49 | eightyeight | however, i can't come to convince myself that the current copyright and patent laws are 'unjust' |
| 18:34.57 | eightyeight | so, as it sits, i don't engage |
| 18:35.00 | eightyeight | but i want to |
| 18:35.02 | eightyeight | so, i'm torn |
| 18:35.42 | eightyeight | but, mickey mouse comes up for public domain in 2013 |
| 18:36.07 | eightyeight | if disney engages, and further screws up copyright, then maybe i'll engage by priating all disney films |
| 18:36.08 | eightyeight | to start |
| 18:36.32 | bonez2046 | sounds like fun |
| 18:38.33 | manithree | eightyeight: Count on more Mickey Mouse laws next year (I am, anyway) |
| 18:38.45 | eightyeight | indeed |
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| 19:10.07 | youtah | HELLO! |
| 19:10.10 | youtah | I know you all missed me |
| 19:10.18 | youtah | This should make you feel better: http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/576936_10151047209235060_1534243400_n.jpg |
| 19:11.46 | jima | wait...you were gone? |
| 19:11.48 | jima | ;-) |
| 19:11.59 | youtah | that was about 45 minutes after the sun had set, and about when the mice started coming out and climbing (literally) all over our bags. |
| 19:12.01 | youtah | ouch |
| 19:12.07 | youtah | Just mentally Jima |
| 19:12.14 | youtah | actually, I think I still might be missing |
| 19:12.32 | youtah | Infact, I will be going to go find myself. So if I come back, before I return, please keep me here. |
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| 19:27.25 | fadein | youtah: nice pic |
| 19:27.37 | fadein | could use some more oil derricks in the background, tho |
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| 20:05.07 | youtah | lol fadein |
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