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02:30.39fugue88fadein: :)
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17:22.37fozzmooAnyone here used backtrack?
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17:37.02goozbachfozzmoo: I tried setting it up a while ago
17:37.19goozbachnevermind
17:37.23goozbachmaybe that was backtalk?
17:37.36goozbachis confuseled
17:37.45fozzmooI'd figure you for a backtalk expert. ;-)
17:49.02goozbachnope
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18:06.24JoshHplug job posting threads are always the greatest entertainment
18:06.53JoshHthough i always feel bad for the poster or person who makes a mistake in them
18:08.16fozzmooI don't. ;-)
18:13.13JoshHheh, nope
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19:50.47unumI should do a /. interview!!!
19:50.54unumtoo bad I can't
20:09.06rsimpkinsAdobe layoffs today.
20:13.48JoshH:(
20:14.50fozzmoowha?
20:15.51rsimpkinsI obviously can't say anything, but I really want to.
20:16.17fozzmooI thought Gov. Herbert personally guaranteed that Adobe employees in Utah were set for life?!
20:16.24fozzmooThat lia.
20:16.25fozzmooliar.
20:16.49JoshHthe tax breaks were life, not the jobs
20:17.35rsimpkinsI don't think the Gov. had anything to do with the layoffs, but what do I know.
20:17.38fozzmooOh, I get it. They're laying off tech workers and hiring construction workers.
20:18.04fozzmoorsimpkins: Your sarcasm detector needs to be cleared of debris. ;-)
20:19.08rsimpkinsfozzmoo: That happens when several of my co-workers are shown the door. :(
20:19.15fozzmooUnderstandable.
20:19.36rsimpkinsSome of them have been here 6+ years.
20:19.38fozzmooAdmins?
20:19.48rsimpkinsI don't know.
20:20.01fozzmooYou don't know if they're sysadmins?
20:20.07JoshHall from the omniture side?
20:20.11rsimpkinsI don't know if sys admins are being layed off.
20:20.17fozzmoooh. Got it.
20:20.27fozzmooVague layoffs. Nothing definite yet.
20:20.34rsimpkinsJoshH: Twitter says ottawa as well, but don't know full scope yet.
20:20.52JoshHdoes adobe do anything in utah besides omniture?
20:20.56rsimpkinsYes.
20:21.22rsimpkinsActually, a lot more now.
20:22.07JoshHi was looking at their site the other day and noticed tons of openings in california and a few here.  then i watched their "life at adobe" video and saw the guy who goes "surfing" in san francisco with a wetsuit before work.  seemed pretty fun
20:23.20JoshHthen it showed some exec who gets in at 7am so he can read his 250 new emails per day in peace and quiet... yikes
20:23.41rsimpkinsJoshH: Adobe isn't a job. it is a lifestyle.
20:24.01rsimpkinsOne I happen to like, a lot. But some others might not.
20:24.08JoshHi think i'd be ready to go home after about 100 emails
20:24.35fozzmoorsimpkins: Big culture difference between Omniture and Adobe?
20:24.55rsimpkinsWell, culture is a tricky thing. Yes and no.
20:25.03rsimpkinsIt is a bigger company, so they have 'big company' policies.
20:25.13rsimpkinsBut the day-to-day workflow has improved, in my opinion.
20:41.18jimabig company policies? why, i never!
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22:23.16sjansenEvery time I perform surgery to recover an unbootable system, I end up feeling conflicted.
22:23.48sjansenOn the one hand, it's nice to know how to avoid doing a complete re-install.
22:24.19sjansenOn the other hand, if I knew a little less maybe I'd be less likely to get into trouble in the first place.
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