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01:01.44goozbachGate: they'll just install single player commands mod and spawn what they want
01:06.33goozbachsjansen should save this up: http://i.imgur.com/axJmn.gif
01:06.36goozbach~woosh
01:06.47goozbachibot: woosh is <reply> http://i.imgur.com/axJmn.gif
01:06.48ibotgoozbach: okay
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18:02.43fozzmooWhy are Fazoli's restaurants closing seemingly all over the place?
18:03.04fozzmooThe Provo location closed a couple years ago and someone told me at least two of the locations in the Salt Lake valley have closed.
18:03.06JoshHno clue, i only knew of the one in midvale though
18:03.15fozzmooYeah- the one in Midvale is one that has closed.
18:03.28fozzmooThe one on 5600 W in West Valley too.
18:03.34JoshHi wish there were more fast italian options
18:03.36JoshHthat sounds good right now
18:03.39fozzmooI'm pretty sure the one at Jordan Landing is still open.
18:03.42fozzmooAnd the one in Draper.
18:03.56JoshHnever thought fazolis was very good, but the concept is good
18:04.24fozzmooThe endless supply of decent breadsticks makes up for the mediocre meal items. :)
18:05.27JoshHi like olive garden's breadsticks, but only with a boat of alfredo, even though it costs too much
18:05.33fugue88I liked their Alfredo.
18:05.55fugue88OG's Alfredo is good too.
18:06.19JoshHi'm getting a thai curry today
18:06.21JoshHbut not sure where yet
18:07.09fozzmooDang it. I'm getting hungry!
18:07.19fozzmooI'd eat "Crazy Bread" at this point. :)
18:07.23JoshHheh
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18:10.46JoshHso it seems the republicans got the spending cuts they wanted and now the shutdown is just over "a Republican demand to cut a federal program that provides women’s health and family planning services."
18:10.57JoshHhuh
18:13.04fozzmooOrrin Hatch is apparently "showing true leadership" by co-sponsoring legislation requiring military servicemen to be paid during a shutdown.
18:13.25fozzmooI think "true leadership" would be more like "Bring them home if they're not going to be paid."
18:14.11fozzmoobut that's just me.
18:14.14JoshHaren't they considered essential anyway?
18:14.21fozzmooapparently not.
18:14.27fugue88Essential to the empire.
18:14.37fozzmoogoes to Fazoli's
18:17.29JoshHwhy do they hate planned parenthood so bad anyway?  most people just get things like birth control pills and std tests there.  it's not like some walk in abortion clinic
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19:47.36sjansenwonders if the CentOS developers were just waiting for GNOME 3 before releasing 5.6
19:55.46fozzmoowonders what the CentOS guys are waiting for before releasing CentOS 6
19:56.41goozbachI'd guess help
19:56.45goozbach*shrug*
19:56.49goozbach:)
19:57.14sjansenYou'd be very wrong.
19:57.28sjansenThe CentOS developers are quite hostile.
19:57.56sjansenDrop by the list or their IRC channel some time. You're mostly likely to ignored or growled at.
19:58.48sjansenOh they've claimed that help would be nice a few times, but they haven't exactly rolled out the welcome mat.
19:59.01JoshHhow long does it take to take out a logo and build the rest of redhat?
19:59.52sjansen"How can I help?"
19:59.57sjansen"Clearly you haven't yet read the last month of the list archive and every page of our poorly organized Web site n00b! Come back when you have"
20:02.00sjansenJoshH: Quite a while if you're going for perfect binary compatibility. Just because a package built on RH's servers using whatever the crap interim software was used during build, that doesn't mean it will be possible to build with same set of symbols, etc. using the information RH provided.
20:02.51JoshHi see
20:04.06sjansenSorry, re-reading what I wrote I see that I've mischaracterize the attitude of the CentOS developers.
20:04.37sjansenWhere I said "Clearly you haven't yet read the last month of the list archive" I meant to say "the last six months".
20:07.57fugue88sjansen: Good of you to own up to your mistake, there.  :)
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20:32.13smcquayhg st
20:32.41smcquaybacks slowly away
20:33.20goozbachsjansen: yeah I see the hostilities
20:33.39fugue88smcquay: hg st?
20:33.44goozbachstatus
20:33.44fugue88Mercury Street?
20:33.46fozzmoohg st!
20:33.49fugue88aha
20:33.50goozbachgit st
20:33.56goozbachtla status -v
20:34.00fugue88ha
20:34.03goozbachyou know what I want to do?
20:34.10fozzmooSleep?
20:34.13fugue88Commit?
20:34.14goozbachI want to invent a distributed revision control system
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20:34.23goozbachthen I'll be an expert on EVERY other topic out there
20:34.24sjansen~lart goozbach for resurrection painful tla memories
20:34.24ibotgrabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats goozbach until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with for resurrection painful tla memories
20:34.25fugue88That's.... productive.
20:34.52goozbachit's ok
20:34.55fozzmooand then sleep?
20:34.56goozbachthose are my squirrles
20:35.05sjansengoozbach: See what you've did! You've got me so upset I can't typo straight.
20:35.06goozbachels even
20:35.30fozzmoosquirrles. Pronounced "skwirleez"
20:36.18fugue88squirrles (pronounced: skir lays') see also, freedom squirrels
20:36.41goozbachalso mine
20:37.00goozbachtrained in a secret under-tree lair
20:37.09goozbachloyal to only I
20:37.19fugue88I feel a movie coming on...
20:37.31goozbachfugue88: if I could make my squirrel movie I'd be a made man...
20:37.33jsmithgoozbach: Did the squirrel come out of the hole, run around the tree, and then go back down the hold?
20:37.41jsmiths/hold/hole/
20:37.55goozbachwait... I know a guy who's a producer in HollyWood
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20:55.51CuriousLahwran.
20:57.46lahwranoahy.
20:57.48lahwranohay*
20:58.03lahwrancedwards: you helped with gnome 3? traitor to the cause
20:58.24goozbachlahwran: how so?
20:58.27lahwranCurious: so this is the chan for utah open source and such
20:58.30fugue88Traitor?  What cuase?
20:58.31fugue88cause
20:58.48CuriousCool, cool.
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21:00.45lahwran...not particularly active last I was here
21:00.45lahwrangoozbach: gnome 3 is to gnome 2 like kde4 was to kde3
21:00.45lahwranit's taking all the good parts and throwing them away in favor of modernism
21:01.24lahwranfugue88: oh I'm just saying that...
21:04.48sjansen*shrug* GNOME 3 was needed. If you don't like it, wait until 3.2 before switching.
21:05.39goozbachnothing wrong with updating paradigms
21:05.54goozbachya'll are still using that beastly UNIX based operating system
21:05.56goozbach:)
21:06.42sjansenKinda.
21:07.33goozbachyeah, so 60-70's style paradigms
21:07.35sjansenLinux may have POSIX support, but it has grown some mighty odd (and cool!) appendages.
21:07.46goozbachya'll should move beyond POSIX
21:08.01goozbachtry out Inferno for example
21:08.04fugue88plan9
21:08.13fugue88Inferno would be good too, yeah.
21:08.20goozbachfugue88: hah, plan9 is passé even
21:08.29fugue88hangs his head
21:08.37goozbachspeaking of which I have part of my blog now hosted on Inferno
21:08.52fugue88It can handle only part of your blog?
21:08.53fugue88:P
21:09.06goozbachfugue88: I'm just learning abt it, so I'm starting small
21:09.32fugue88goozbach: Are you running it native, or in a virtualized machine like qemu or virtualbox?
21:09.42goozbachit's really cool however, it's running hosted in my linode
21:09.56goozbachit's not "virtulized" per say
21:10.04goozbachit's running in "hosted mode" under Linux
21:10.10goozbachs/say/se
21:10.12fugue88okay
21:10.19goozbachon my linode
21:10.35goozbachthen I use apache on my linode to reverse proxy the URLs which are hosted
21:11.08fugue88Wait, what VPS provider are you using?  I didn't catch that.
21:11.10fugue88:D
21:11.20fugue88~linode++
21:12.39fugue88goozbach: Hmm, so what's the inferno-side of things look like?  What blog platform, etc?
21:12.49fugue88Languages, database,...
21:13.34goozbachfugue88: multi-markdown and html!
21:15.05fugue88Cool.
21:29.41sjansen~linode++
21:30.02goozbachamen
21:30.04sjansen~linode
21:30.12fugue88~karma linode
21:30.12ibotlinode has karma of 2
21:30.17fugue88what?!?!
21:30.27fugue88~linode++
21:30.38fugue88~karma comcast
21:30.38ibotcomcast has karma of -117
21:30.42fugue88~karma qwest
21:30.42ibotqwest has karma of -33
21:30.46fugue88~karma java
21:30.46ibotjava has karma of -37
21:31.08fugue88This just in: in a recent poll, it was revealed that java is worse than qwest.
21:31.39sjansenibot: linode is cheap, reliable, awesome Linux VPS hosting
21:31.39ibotsjansen: okay
21:31.45fozzmooLoad avg: 19.81
21:31.51goozbach~linode++
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21:33.05rsimpkinsFor charging me $60 for 1 week of service. Down from $80!
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22:20.40jsmithsjansen: RLL, MFM, IDE, or SATA?
22:21.53fozzmoojsmith: Couldn't he have SCSI?
22:22.08fozzmooSCA SCSI
22:23.19jsmithfozzmoo: He could, but he won't... not if they're in a station wagon
22:23.42jsmithfozzmoo: And, on the off-chance they were SCSI drives, he'd be missing the SCSI terminators
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