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04:02.26bonez2046if I want to email a message to someone's cell and have them receive it as a txt, on At&t for example, how would I send?
04:18.15bonez2046found it, number@mms.att.net
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04:41.16bonez2046is it possible in irc, to send a message when the recipient is offline?
04:41.32bonez2046to have it store and then get picked up when they reconnect?
04:42.44fadeinbonez2046: I think memoserv may be what you want
04:42.52fadein<PROTECTED>
04:58.23bonez2046thanks
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06:57.20Gatebonez2046: or many channels have bots, you can add an onjoin
06:57.39Gatethough that is usually more used as jokes than anything else
06:58.43blendmaster1024use memoserv ...
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13:37.52eightyeighti dig the fedora installer anaconda. i think there is a lot other gnu/linux installers can learn from it
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13:52.47jsmitheightyeight: I'm (probably? definitely?) biased, but it is pretty darn awesome :-)
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15:05.40*** topic/#utah by sjansen -> logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/#utah | "[T]hough he did not know it, Rob McKenna was a Rain God." -- Douglas Adams
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16:45.14ibotpong rsimpkins
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18:23.31leviAhh, IT failures.
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18:37.23eightyeight~iphone
18:37.24iboti guess iphone is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZKjJt-TkU, or a useless fanfruit device thats only existence is a mistake, or kind of ghey. Windows Mobile, WebOS, and Android are all better.
18:37.35eightyeightheh
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18:44.42Gate:o
18:44.56GateI know iPhoneOS sucks, but Windows Mobile?!?!?!
18:45.45GateThats like saying that fried liver is better than raw liver, it may be true but they both make you want to hurl.
18:46.14JoshHi'd take an iphone over a winmo easily
18:46.40JoshHbut an evo is what my heart desires
18:47.12hobanwants a galaxy s
18:52.56sjansenExcept for maybe Win7 Mobile, iOS kicks WinMo no contest. And I'm not an iFruit fan.
18:53.27JoshHthe only apple product i get emotional about is the mbp
19:04.43eightyeighti've been debating today changing my email signature to "Sent from my seeing iMutt" to make fun of iphone email users
19:27.08sjansens/seeing/magical/
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20:07.39sjansenhttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/08/02/1856215/Intuit-Still-Fighting-Government-Tax-Software
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21:08.02GateI am fascinated by Android, it takes the cake for mobile OSes IMO.
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21:53.59rsimpkins~pong sjansen
21:53.59ibotsjansen: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:54.19sjansenrsimpkins: Do you have a topic for this month's meeting?
21:54.29rsimpkinsYes, but nothing for next month.
21:54.36rsimpkinsWebGL this month.
21:54.55sjansenMight want to update the Web site.
21:55.17rsimpkinsyes, I need to update it. I will do announcments tonight.
21:55.18sjansenI might have a topic for next month depending on how much time I have for research.
21:55.42rsimpkinsOh? Is it 'Why I'm awesome, part II?'
21:56.03sjansenBased on the overwhelming popularity of the topic? Of course!
21:56.17rsimpkinssjansen: What are you thinking of?
21:56.46sjansenA comparison of sysvinit, upstart and systemd.
21:56.52rsimpkinsInteresting.
21:57.02rsimpkinsI'd love to hear that one.
21:57.11sjansenBut would anyone else?
21:57.18rsimpkinsAsk on the list?
21:58.22sjansenWe'll see.
22:00.16sjansenI've also recently started playing with Openfiler. I suspect "Building a Home Store Server With Openfiler" would be more interesting, although init systems interests me more.
22:03.53goozbachsjansen: look into nexenta as well
22:04.07goozbachthat's a fun "filerish" distro
22:04.20goozbachif you're playing to learn that is
22:05.22sjansenYeah, but then you're stuck with crappy Solaris and it's crappy, limited hardware support.
22:05.37goozbachgood point
22:05.49goozbachdoes openfiler have ZFS support?
22:05.55sjansennope
22:06.01sjansenLinux based.
22:06.20sjansenGreat hardware support, but no ZFS.
22:07.17goozbach:(
22:07.23goozbachzfs is AWESOME!
22:07.30goozbachmaybe even AWESOME**2
22:10.30eightyeighti'm frustrated with red hat that they can't seem to get their init system right
22:11.55eightyeightconfused sysvinit/bsd on rhel5, then switch to upstart for rehl6, only to likely switch to systemd for rhel7
22:12.04eightyeightway to piss off your admins
22:12.13eightyeight~spit
22:12.44sinuheeightyeight: It sounds like Red Hat is at least trying to get it right, instead of refusing to change.
22:13.22eightyeightmeh
22:14.13eightyeightupstart has proven its stability enough to get debian to consider it for the next stable (although it was pushed out for getting kfreebsd in order)
22:14.41eightyeightthat should be good enough for red hat :)
22:16.44eightyeighti'm all in favor of ridding ourselves of bad software, and old historical cruft
22:17.49sjanseneightyeight: Are you familiar with the deep technical and philosophical difference between upstart and systemd?
22:20.27eightyeightdeep? no. i've got the main idea
22:20.53sjansenBecause RH never fully embraced the unique features of Upstart, moving from sysvinit to Upstart for RHEL6 shouldn't be a big deal.
22:21.31eightyeightyeah. i noticed in the beta they're keeping the /etc/inittab, among other things
22:22.06sjansenPut simply: Upstart is push (event-based) and systemd is pull (on demand).
22:22.20eightyeightundrestood
22:22.55eightyeightrealize, i've been running upstarte on ubuntu since 6.06. :)
22:23.38sjansenYes, but how long have you been running systemd? ;-)
22:23.58eightyeighti rest my case
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