| 00:02.32 | sjansen | gundy's trying to spread his ubuntu infection. |
| 00:02.52 | sjansen | Unless he's given into the dark side.... SUSE. |
| 00:03.13 | TodPunk | likes ubuntu/debian |
| 00:03.40 | TodPunk | I figured I haven't tried red hat for a couple years, I'd give it a shot again. |
| 00:04.25 | gundy | I just do what everyone else does. It's too hard to think for myself. |
| 00:04.40 | sjansen | Be aware, Fedora is cutting edge. It's most appropriate for those who don't mind donating a little blood. |
| 00:06.02 | sjansen | hugs his F12 box and whispers sweet nothings in its microphone |
| 00:09.19 | TodPunk | is yum the same as it's always been? |
| 00:10.31 | sjansen | It's faster and more powerful, but not shockingly different. |
| 00:11.50 | gundy | Fast *and* powerful? I'd say that is shockingly different! |
| 00:12.15 | TodPunk | quick, quality, and cheap. Pick two. |
| 00:15.48 | TodPunk | gundy, are you home, on a Friday night? |
| 00:17.17 | gundy | No, I'm breaking the rules and hanging on IRC during work. |
| 00:17.36 | TodPunk | for SHAME |
| 00:17.41 | TodPunk | You're not getting paid anyway |
| 00:20.47 | gundy | hangs head in shame. |
| 00:20.52 | gundy | too true. |
| 00:23.35 | TodPunk | gundy: did you ever come up with that project thingamabib? |
| 00:24.29 | sjansen | gundy: Did you find something? |
| 00:27.00 | sjansen | n/m It doesn't do PoE. |
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| 00:47.14 | sjansen | http://www.reuters.com/article/idCNLDE63J15F20100420 |
| 00:48.16 | sjansen | In other news, Nokia's sales chief, Anssi Vanjoki, proclaimed himself emperor of crazy land. |
| 00:48.22 | TodPunk | I'm going to have to call shenanigans on that article |
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| 00:53.56 | tensai | I think he's right in some ways. for point and shoot cameras, I think phone cameras may eat a large part of the market. |
| 00:54.08 | tensai | as they say, the best camera is the one you have with you |
| 00:55.14 | tensai | but he's a salesman. what do you expect him to say? |
| 00:57.57 | TodPunk | I think he's right that your average consumer market isn't going to care about phones. Pointing to the photographer at the press conference was not only bold, but preposterous |
| 01:00.38 | gundy | TodPunk, thingamabib? |
| 01:00.39 | TodPunk | nobot:s/phones/cameras/ |
| 01:00.58 | TodPunk | gundy: you had some open source project you were thinking about doing |
| 01:01.15 | gundy | I hate Open Source. I can't ever get support. |
| 01:01.35 | TodPunk | that's because it's not backed by a corporation like quality Microsoft Products |
| 01:01.42 | TodPunk | (tm) |
| 01:02.27 | gundy | I'm going to have to go ahead and call support now... |
| 01:03.38 | gundy | TodPunk, the truth is I've had no time. I really miss my family and sleep. |
| 01:04.01 | TodPunk | pansy |
| 01:09.54 | gundy | hangs his head in shame -- again. |
| 01:13.32 | TodPunk | so gundy, I've been sold on trying django, as last night I looked at some performance numbers, and django beat the pants off PHP in just about everything I looked at. |
| 01:13.54 | gundy | really? |
| 01:13.59 | TodPunk | I well let you know how my love/hate with it turns out |
| 01:14.03 | TodPunk | yes |
| 01:14.08 | gundy | Give it another shot. |
| 01:14.38 | gundy | Besides, most performance will be in proper caching and other non-php/python/ruby issues. |
| 01:15.02 | gundy | true some frameworks will help you do a good job of those things. |
| 01:15.21 | TodPunk | of course |
| 01:15.26 | TodPunk | you know I'm no amateur |
| 01:17.23 | TodPunk | I'm no expert either, I should note |
| 01:20.43 | gundy | That's OK, I'll note it. |
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| 01:23.33 | gundy | Anyone ever write a zimlet? |
| 01:30.18 | TodPunk | you mean zimbra? |
| 01:30.22 | TodPunk | we used it at my last job |
| 01:31.33 | TodPunk | zimlets always looked like a huge pain |
| 01:45.19 | gundy | yeah - the examples seem both cool and contrived. |
| 01:45.41 | gundy | How did you like zimbra in general? |
| 02:01.49 | TodPunk | gundy: it was cheaper than exchange, did everything we wanted those for, and was simple enough to setup with decent support. |
| 02:02.00 | TodPunk | exchange/groupwise |
| 02:02.47 | gundy | Boy is it ugly. |
| 02:05.55 | TodPunk | I like the web interface |
| 02:06.02 | TodPunk | well, some of the schemes of it |
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| 14:39.27 | markl_ | hmm, facebook f41l |
| 14:41.19 | eightyeight | is that l33t, or does facebook have a 411, or something else entirely? |
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| 16:24.41 | cedwards | I read that as 1337 h4x0r speek |
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