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00:51.17jnbekthere is only room for the praising of perl, in the immortal words of James Hetfield.. Nothing Else Matters.
00:51.35blendmaster1024somebody kick him
00:51.43blendmaster1024/kick jnbek
00:52.44blendmaster1024dang, i want smcquay
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02:31.39blendmaster1024bmidgley2!!
02:31.55blendmaster10248)
02:32.05blendmaster1024finally! where were you??
02:32.16bmidgley2hey
02:32.25blendmaster1024hint hint
02:32.32blendmaster1024;)
02:32.49blendmaster1024one guess
02:33.05blendmaster1024hoo is i
02:33.23blendmaster1024come on...
02:33.30bmidgley2yes I see you
02:33.44blendmaster1024i'm sitting next to you
02:33.50blendmaster1024lool
02:37.32blendmaster1024bmidgley2: and how do you think they would accelerate you safely in these vactrains!?
02:37.53blendmaster1024attention
02:38.32bmidgley2it's no coincidence the train cars would be shaped like coffins
02:38.38blendmaster1024hahahaha
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15:47.54fozzmootag tweets with what? #utosc?
15:48.19peno#utosc2009
15:48.20RyanEwhat's a tweet?
15:48.27RyanEbehind you
15:48.31penothat's what happens after you eat mexican for lunch.
15:48.39RyanEThe call is coming from *inside the house*
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16:13.12elghmm. I disowned a stopped job
16:13.21elgso now it's properly disowned, but it's still stopped. how do I start it again?
16:14.29tensaielg: send it a signal
16:14.42tensaielg: SIGCONT, 18
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16:28.06fozzmoogoozbach: Did you get a clicker?
16:29.24tensaidid anybody else read that as "chicken"?
16:29.31tensaifozzmoo: yes he did
16:30.04tensaiat whatever office store was right by 5 Guys
16:31.54fozzmooheh.
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16:54.04fozzmooWho are these guys? :)
16:55.11tensaisleepy, cranky, grouchy, surly...
16:55.18JoshHthey are gods among men
16:55.25JoshHi love any burger place that offers A1 sauce
16:55.38JoshHand fresh cut fries
16:56.14eightyeighttheir cajun fries are a godsend to burgers
16:56.26tensai~onjoin harleypig I would totally do 5 Guys right now
16:56.26ibottensai: ok
16:56.36JoshHagreed eightyeight
16:57.12JoshHeightyeight: have you ever been to the blue plate diner in slc?  they have great cajun fries too, but much thicker cut
16:57.29eightyeighti haven't, but i've heard good things. where are they located?
16:58.22eightyeighthmm. not far from work
16:58.29eightyeightmaybe i'll head there for lunch
16:58.47SargunCan anyone get this page to load for them: http://transit.511.org/destinations/index.aspx#m1=T
16:58.52SargunJoshH, you aren't hard to please.
16:58.57SargunJoshH, I like kobe beef.
16:59.14JoshHmost kobe in america isn't even real kobe
16:59.24SargunJoshH, You can get a certificate with your burger.
16:59.26JoshHalso, i like elk meat
16:59.29tensaiwagyu
16:59.40SargunIt's $50 for a good burger
16:59.42Sargun:-(
16:59.43tensaiwhich technically speaking means "japanese beef"
17:00.36eightyeightblendmaste|utosc: identity crisis?
17:01.57JoshHeightyeight: 21st and 21st
17:02.33JoshHget the bacon cheeseburger with bluecheese crumbles, and cajun fries
17:02.54blendmaste|utosceightyeight: trying to get a good away nick
17:03.03blendmaste|utosci think i got one
17:03.06eightyeight/away works
17:03.54maquisused to have an auto-away script...
17:04.01maquisseem to have misplaced it and never found it again
17:04.03eightyeightscreen-away.pl
17:04.25blendmaste|utosceightyeight: but then it's not known
17:04.46JoshHshowing status in nicks is considered spam in a lot of channels
17:04.48eightyeightblendmaste|utosc: it's easy to find out if someone wants to know. /whois does the trick rather nicely
17:05.05blendmaste|utosceightyeight: are u here?
17:05.08eightyeightsome gui clients show status colors next to the nick too
17:05.24eightyeightblendmaste|utosc: no. i'm at school. i might be down later tonight
17:05.52blendmaste|utoscif you come by 3:45, you can see my presentation... though it's gonna be packed...
17:06.03eightyeightwhat are you presenting on?
17:06.26eightyeightwait. lemme guess. blender? :)
17:06.30blendmaste|utoscthe blender GE - http://2009.utosc.com/presentation/68/
17:06.50blendmaste|utoscwell ofc blender, but not just any part of blender :)
17:10.54eightyeightmaquis: http://scripts.irssi.org/html/screen_away.pl.html
17:10.55brac[html/screen_away.pl]
17:14.24maquiseightyeight: ooh... thx
17:15.47maquisbuys 3 books for a grand total of $0.01... one by an author we've read before and enjoyed (james patterson), one that has a physical edition for 19.99 and only 4-and-5-star reviews, and 1 that's reasonably unknown
17:16.26maquis(or at least that i'd not heard of)
17:18.54maquislikes free books...
17:24.16Sargunmaquis, Can't you get the entire kindle library for free?
17:24.30Sargunblendmaste|utosc, Man, I wish I was as smart as you when I was your age
17:26.08maquisSargun: no
17:26.13maquiswhy would i have that?
17:27.18Sargunmaquis, how much does Amazon partition their developers internally?
17:27.40elgSargun: into head, shoulders, knees, and toes.
17:27.55Sargunelg, -_-
17:28.11SargunI mean, even though I'm not in engineering, I have access to our source repos for various reasons. I can look through the src tree for "cheat codes"
17:28.28JoshHhook a brother up
17:28.41SargunJoshH, Don't worry, you don't want to use our product.
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18:02.04maquiswow... i'm suddenly wishing i could move a screen from one screen session to another
18:02.12maquisthat'd be insanely helpful right now
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18:09.19tensaielg: di you get your process running again?
18:10.46elghttp://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project
18:10.49elgtensai: yes
18:10.53elgthanks
18:11.27elg~botsnack tensai
18:11.27ibotelg: aw, gee
18:14.41maquisugh...
18:15.18maquisis ready to get this baby out soon
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18:18.20elgmaquis: due soon, or wishful thinking?
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18:35.49maquiselg: i hit 34 weeks (6 weeks left) tomorrow...
18:35.57Sargunmanithree, good job
18:36.01Sargunmaquis, good job.
18:36.17maquisSargun: yeah... 6 weeks is still a long time, though
18:36.23Sargunnot that long.
18:36.59maquisthis past week has been really long...
18:39.08SargunAbout 280,000 will die in the next 6 weeks in the US alone.
18:39.20mulichenghm, 6 will come and go, then will 12, and then a year later the kids are walking.
18:39.28mulichengWe have 5.  Time flies.
18:39.44maquismulicheng: i'm sure it does eventually fly...
18:40.21maquisbut right now, i'm sitting here with a sore back, trying to stay awake at work, with an attention span of about 2 seconds....
18:40.36mulichengMinimize the irc window :)
18:40.47maquismulicheng: i don't think irc is the problem :)
18:40.55maquisbut yeah...
18:41.46elg36 is considered full term right?
18:42.23elgso on hard days you can delude yourself that the baby could come as soon as 2 weeks
18:44.51maquiselg: yeah...  
18:45.37maquismy doctor's rule is, i have to wait at least til monday, cuz she's out of town til then and she wants to be the one to deliver (even though normally it's just whichever doc's oncall)
18:46.46maquissince my dad isn't allowed to be the delivering doc, i can't go exactly with "whichever doc's oncall", but it's insanely nice to have a doctor who's willing to come in even if she's not oncall...
18:47.40Sargunmaquis, why can't your dad deliver?
18:47.51Sargunethics issues?
18:48.11maquisyeah... they have rules about doctors doing any procedures on immediate family
18:48.25maquisi'm not sure what all the rules are, but i know that's part of it
18:48.26SargunIn the time it takes your baby to reach my age, about 45 million people will have died in the US.
18:48.53Sargun-- consider that number is about 1/6th of the population of the US today
18:49.00elgSargun_goth
18:49.05Sargunelg, shut up.
18:50.40Sargunmaquis, Also, in the next 6 weeks, about half-a-million children will be born
18:51.16Sargunman, I can't help but to be pessimistic
18:51.35SargunIt's all numbers anyways... cold hard numbers. numbers don't have emotions
18:51.36maquisisn't pessimistic
18:51.56maquisnumbers don't make things happy
18:51.59maquisbut feelings do
18:52.08maquisand people do
18:52.12maquisand little babies do
18:52.17elgponder the number of lactobacillus and yeast that die every day just maintaining a sourdough start.
18:52.18SargunI dislike babies.
18:52.26Sargunelg, trillions...
18:52.33SargunI could calculate it, but I'm on the clock
18:52.39Sargunand that doesn't interest me.
18:52.47Sargunit doesn't have the same emotional impact that babies do.
18:52.54elgwhy?
18:52.56Sargunpeople seem to have some sort of special connection to babies.
18:54.48elgso what exactly is your point?
18:55.09elgpeople are born, people die?
19:01.37MigsAbout to stream Glen Lewis's UTOSC preso: "Writing Mobile Applications with Android Programming" http://www.ustream.tv/channel/utosc
19:02.04Migsquality is almost too crappy to make it worth it, but at least there's audio
19:02.34maquisso, random question about instant-on linux.  is there any way to get it without using read-only memory?
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19:03.33maquisit seems like having the OS on read-only memory is kinda troublesome... if a security update is needed, you can't really do anything about it
19:03.57maquisplus, i really don't like the idea of these systems that are sticking the UI in read-only memory
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19:20.58Sargunmaquis, R/O memory?
19:21.54Sargunmaquis, Like optical? I can't remember the last time I've seen WORM on chip that didn't at least support appends.
19:24.15Sargunmaquis, I mean, you can put a "suspend image" (swsup2) in memory, and recover in <5 if your read times are high enough
19:24.46maquisSargun: well, i was hearing someone say that if they get instant-on linux, the OS and most of the apps would end up being in ROM, which didn't make much sense to me... seems like it ought to be possible to use something besides ROM for instant-on
19:24.58Sargunand I mean, sequential 300 mb/s for a 512MB piece of chunk
19:25.03maquiseither flash, or storing in a dedicated RAM, or something like that
19:25.07Sargunmaquis, usually it's something closer to EEPROM.
19:25.30Sargunor straight up flash with an RO file system, that way you don't have to deal with all the weird rotation/MTD stuff
19:25.57fozzmooI think herlo might have thought goozbach's wife was mine.
19:26.04Sargunhehe
19:26.18Sargungoozbach's wife is the hot one, right?
19:26.29fozzmooI think they're both easy on the eyes. :)
19:26.42fozzmooBut goozbach's wife is blonde. My wife is not.
19:27.01fozzmooSargun: When are you going to attend UTOSC?
19:27.05Sargunfozzmoo, don't you have to say that about your wife.
19:27.09Sargunfozzmoo, In due time.
19:27.15Sargunonce I'm out of school
19:27.25Sargunor you guys hold one during summer.
19:30.09fozzmooPriorities. Priorities.
19:30.53SargunSchool/Work > Friends > Parties > UTOSC
19:31.21fozzmooSo,  basically, School/Work > UTOSC ?
19:31.22fozzmoo;-)
19:31.51Sargunhehe
19:32.16SargunAlso, I'm somewhat afraid I'm going to be stoned once I enter Utah
19:37.18fozzmooDepends on what you smoke before you hit the border. :)
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20:25.12JoshHSargun: just don't stop anywhere until you get to SLC
20:26.30SargunJoshH, haha
20:26.51JoshHalso, you will probably be pulled over by highway patrol fishing for a drug bust
20:28.48elgis having a crisis of sorts
20:29.08elgI just passed up bratwurst for lunch. there just wasn't enough room on my plate (or in my stomach) to justify it
20:33.13maquiselg: no gloating
20:33.39elgthe more nuanced food was good
20:33.45elgbut I wish in the end I'd got the bratwurst
20:35.27maquiselg: you could go get a bratwurst, eat what you can, etc...
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21:08.06levielg: Have you gained weight since starting there? :)
21:08.11elgnay
21:08.19elgcould, it'd be easy
21:08.30elgbut my system proves itself yet again
21:08.49leviWell, it's always pretty easy to gain wait if your body isn't predisposed against it.
21:08.53leviEr, eight.
21:08.56leviMan.
21:08.56elgon a "dessert day" I would have had the bratwurst anyway, but the fates have today as a "no-dessert day"
21:08.58leviWeight.
21:10.49maquiselg: dessert days vs non-dessert days?
21:11.19maquisso you have certain days that you'll let yourself eat whatever, and other days that you try to eat healthy?
21:11.28maquiswhy isn't friday a dessert day... i mean... it's a friday
21:11.40elgmaquis: yup. very simple system.
21:11.56elgI have a sheet of graph paper on the wall. i weigh myself first thing each morning and mark my weight on the graph paper
21:12.48elgmy current goal is to lose abt 1 lb every week or so. so imagine a line with that slope
21:12.56elgif the past 5 days are trending below that line, I can eat whatever I want
21:13.16elgif the past 5 days are trending above that line (not as steep, or going up) then I must skip dessert and eat smaller portions
21:14.18maquisaside from skipping dessert, do you control *what* you eat on non-dessert days?
21:14.26maquisor just portions?
21:14.31elgthen when i'm at my target weight I just modify so that instead of a line sloping down, it's a flat line
21:14.38elgnope. I can eat whatever I want
21:14.44elgany day. it's only portion control
21:14.59maquisand... what's the selection like there?  are there the same options every day, or do they have different things on a specific schedule?
21:15.04maquisand lots of ethnic food?
21:15.16elgobviously, now, all food is not created equal and so if I eat something loaded with sugar that's more calories than if I eat something healthy
21:15.31elgso you can't cheat and eat "smaller" helpings of all-sugar-foods
21:16.12elgevery day is different, usually a theme
21:16.15elgtoday is oktoberfest
21:16.17maquisi mean... i think i could actually get a good bit of veggies into my diet if indian food was free...
21:16.27elgand yes, they had beer for lunch
21:16.34Sargunelg, I thought last weekend was oktoberfest?
21:16.44elgbut there is a lot of selection, several dishes lots of vegetarian stuff, soup and sandwich bar and salad bar always
21:17.01elgwell, today was oktoberfest theme here, is all I know.
21:17.12elgusually it's some country
21:17.25Sargunah
21:17.27elgmalaysia, guatemala are ones from this past week that come to mind
21:18.01JoshHdoes fb give you free food?
21:18.35Sargunduh
21:19.01Sargunwhat do they want him to do, starve?
21:19.22JoshHwell i dunno you don't hear about how fb always has free gourmet food for employees though you did with google
21:19.41elgwe do
21:19.49elgin fact, we have the head chef that was at google
21:20.19elgi think google has several cafes, and therefore more selection, but our food is magnifique
21:20.44elgapps.facebook.com/lunchtime
21:21.12elghttp://www.foodgal.com/2009/08/inside-the-cafe-at-facebook-headquarters/
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21:23.00elgin fact we have most all the same perks as google
21:23.21elgwe even have a shuttle from san francisco now
21:26.01SargunJoshH, fb has modelled themselves after google.
21:26.17SargunJoshH, Well, except FB doesn't actually have a sustainable business model (yet)
21:26.31JoshHlooks tasty
21:27.04JoshH"as employees are allowed to bring guests to dine."
21:27.10JoshHi'm hitting you up for lunch next time i'm out that way
21:27.25elgyou bet
21:28.36elgmaquis: so anyway, I lost 40 pounds and have failed to gain a bunch of weight in the 2 months I've been here (haven't been focused on losing again until just recently)
21:28.46elgso my system works, for me anyway
21:29.09maquiselg: that's good
21:29.50leviAre you still eating teaspoons of olive oil, or whatever that weird thing was?
21:29.56elgnope
21:30.16elgnot fun enough. and rather weird. never did come to any solid conclusions about it
21:31.01stderrelg: grats on the weight loss
21:31.27elgtakes a bow
21:31.49stderr(and for keepin it off with such deliciousness around you :P)
21:31.49elgone caveat though is that you can't just set an arbitrary weight loss goal of say 14 pounds a week
21:32.03stderrah yea, that doesn't work
21:32.08elgit only works if you're not starving yourself - so your body doesn't realize you're tricking it into losing weight
21:32.12elg2lb/week max
21:32.47elg1 do 1lb/5 days because it's easy on the graph paper. :)
21:32.58elgthe dark green lines are every 5 squares
21:33.10stderrI'm about to start my new weight gaining regiment tomorrow, I've become pretty good at fluctuating my weight the past 6, 7 years
21:33.33elgi keep meaning to start a basic regimen of pushups and situps
21:33.43elgor something
21:33.51unumI'm a perfect weight, I just need to redistribute it
21:33.55elgelse when I finish losing weight I'll look like the beanpole I was as a teenager
21:34.03stderrah yea, I've been doing pushups/situps/4 mile run for a long time.  Bout to start my first shot at a real CrossFit regiment, though.
21:34.21unumI've been feeling a lot better since take anti-inflammatories, I should try some weight lifting again
21:34.35unumthough doing cardio regulary would be a really good first step.....
21:35.04elgi bike 4 mi/day now, though I wish I could easily fit swimming into my day
21:35.20stderrelg: me too, I need access to a good pool.
21:35.21elgbut biking has the benefit of being part of my commute.
21:35.45elgnot that 4 miles is a huge workout but it gets the legs moving a bit
21:35.46unumI really need to quit driving to work...
21:36.22elgwe have the santa clara international swim center near my house
21:36.36elgbut it'd have to be near work for me to realisitcally fit it into my day
21:36.58elgbec. trains aren't that frequent
21:36.58stderryou should get the pullup bar you can put into your door frame, too.  I watch TV while doing pyramid sets of pullups in the doorway of my living room
21:37.56stderrI also use it for crunches / situps
21:38.01leviI'm thinking of starting some weight training.  I'm down to about 7% body fat, but my upper body needs more bulk.
21:38.29stderr1.5% body fat >_<
21:39.10leviThat would make me *too* skinny.
21:39.20leviMy wife told me not to lose any more weight. :)
21:40.01stderrI've never been above 2.5%, even when I go on my crazy weight gain regiments.  I just think it's physically impossible for me to gain fat beyond a certain point.
21:40.19unumwow
21:40.32stderrit's more annoying then it sounds
21:40.36unumthat's marathon runner fat level
21:40.45unumwell atleast you can still have kids at that level :)
21:40.58elgat least you have a lower bound... we gainers don't really have upper bounds
21:41.41unumI was going to argue that but really it's a calculus limit
21:41.58elgbut yeah, I don't think I'd want to be uncontrollably skinny any more than uncontrollably fat
21:42.01stderrwell it's hard for me to gain straight muscle, my muscle just cuts and cuts and cuts.  So I look like I'm in pretty spectacular shape, but I can never do power weight training (I max at 225 on the bench no matter how much weight I put on)
21:42.26stderrand weight would definitely help with my grappling training
21:43.11leviMy metabolism has changed a bit since last time I attempted weight training, so maybe I'd have more luck now.
21:45.22stderrdang GitHub removed gem building?
21:47.33maquisis going to have to go back to trying to lose weight in another 2 months or so... :)
21:48.22JoshHwhat's a good pushups/situps routine?
21:48.27unummy girlfriend ended up 10 lbs lighter after having a kid
21:48.31unumshe's trying to put it back on
21:48.42JoshHunum: you aren't single anymore?
21:48.49unumJoshH: not so much these days
21:48.56leviMy wife is so happy that she finally got her pregnancy weight off. :)
21:49.23JoshHwell good for you, i guess
21:50.10stderrJoshH: pyramids
21:50.18elgstderr: can you elaborate?
21:50.26stderralright
21:50.36stderrlet's say it's comfortable for you to do 40 pushups at once
21:50.40stderrhalve that
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21:51.02elgI don't know if i've ever done 40 pushups at once
21:51.07stderrthen do 5 pushups, rest (maybe jog in place / jumprope to keep your cardio up), 10 pushups, rest, 15 pushups, rest, 20 pushups, rest, 15... and continue
21:51.56stderralso, switch out how you're holding your arms.  You can do "diamonds" (place your hands together in a diamond shape), and "widearms" where you spread your hands far apart, then "regulars".  There are many other ways, but those are good three to start with.
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21:52.18stderrSame with situps.  By altering your foot placement and where you put your head when you come up, you'll feel different muscles working
21:53.09stderrI climb to 50 pushups reps, and same with situps.  then I do pyramid pullups to 25 (trying to increase that to 30 currently)
21:53.24stderra light mile jog afterward and you're ready to go.
21:53.50eightyeighti enjoy swimming. did 12 laps this morning
21:54.17eightyeight(referring to earlier in the conversation)
21:54.19stderryou can also do smaller increments with a smaller cap, increments of 1 to 10 pushups and back down.  Whatevers you feel comfortable with.  If you do pyramids for a week, you'll notice definite performance improvement.
21:54.35leviI was swimming regularly for a couple of weeks, but I need to get water-tight earplugs if I want to go back to it.
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21:55.39JoshHstderr: so basically you go up in increments until you hit the max you are comfortable with?
21:55.51eightyeightalcohol drops are great for getting water out of the ear
21:56.06stderrJoshH: see how many proper pushups you can do in one sitting.  Really push yourself.  Then halve that and that's your starting pyramid cap
21:56.37JoshHk, got it
21:56.50stderrDoing proper pushups is much more important the amount you're doing.
21:56.50stderrthan the*
21:57.26stderrare there any plans for UTOSC goers to hit up a bar tonight?
21:57.29stderr~ping herlo
21:57.30ibotpong herlo
21:57.43JoshHman, i would if i could
21:57.57stderrweak
21:58.16eightyeightit's interesting to eaves drop on conversations about unix
21:58.18JoshHalready have plans for tonight and tomorrow :(
21:58.39eightyeightbeing 'unix ninjas', setting bios passwords, getting root access, the whole works
21:58.42JoshHwe need more drinkers in the lugs
21:58.51eightyeightactually, it's quite entertaining
21:59.38stderrJoshH: well hit me up sometime, I have a monopoly on the drinking geeks in Utah.
22:00.25JoshHwhat part of town do you work in
22:00.37stderrwell I work downtown, I live in Sugarhouse.
22:00.46JoshHcool, same here
22:00.54stderrnice!
22:00.56JoshHactually i'm a bit southeast of sugarhouse but close enough
22:01.41stderrwhere at?
22:01.56JoshHapprox 20th east/30th south
22:01.57stderrI'm about 750 E 2550 S~
22:02.03stderrah gotcha
22:02.24eightyeightnow the conversation has moved to mssql, vc++ and .net
22:02.32eightyeightlike anyone cares
22:02.37eightyeighti'm enjoying it
22:06.29elganyone have ieee access?
22:08.22mulichengNeed a paper?
22:09.01elgyeah, http://www2.computer.org/portal/web/csdl/doi/10.1109/32.31365
22:09.33mulichengI don't currently have access.  I have found scholar.google.com to be quite helpful in finding papers that you can't get though.
22:10.27elgyeah that's my first stop
22:10.38elgthen sometimes if not ther eyou can get them by doing a regular google search
22:10.41mulichengFirst link: http://scilib.kiev.ua/ieee/tse/1989/09/e9/e1066.pdf
22:10.52mulichengDon't know if that is the right paper, but the title is pretty close.
22:11.12elgdoes that load for you?
22:11.24mulichengHadn't tried,
22:11.34mulichenglooks like it's broken.
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22:12.29elgyup. but...
22:12.44elgnope, wayback fails
22:12.52mulichengThis one loads: http://www.geocities.com/satlam/MoritaPusblishIS.pdf
22:12.53eightyeightman. those two are like two giggly girls in 7th grade whispering and giggling about boys
22:13.02eightyeightnow it's getting annoying. maybe i should relocate
22:13.34mulichengNot sure that is close to what you needed or not though.
22:14.14elgi'll have to take a look
22:14.19mulichengGot any old college professors?  I've emailed links to my masters professor a couple times and he got me the paper fairly quickly.  
22:14.20elgnot the same paper, but it might cover the algorithm
22:14.42elgi tried lynx on a CS computer at NMSU
22:14.52elgwhich usually can get IEEE content, but not always
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