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| 00:58.14 | harleypig | feh ... upgrading my system didn't mess up my system this time, but my irssi, twitter, bitlbee and screen settings are all mangled |
| 00:58.18 | harleypig | *sigh* |
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| 01:07.26 | eightyeight | http://www.fpdimages.com/html/StoreOpenSystemsBanner.htm |
| 01:07.27 | brac | [Éric Lévénezs' Gorgeous Unix Diagram] |
| 01:16.20 | rsimpkins | I need to find 900 meters of straight, flat sidewalk. |
| 01:16.46 | rsimpkins | harder than I first thought to find such a thing. |
| 01:19.18 | rsimpkins | found. thank you google earth. :) |
| 01:22.46 | Sargun | rsimpkins, for what? |
| 01:22.55 | Sargun | are you one of them terrorists? |
| 01:25.28 | rsimpkins | Sargun: If I were, I would for sure be using google earth. |
| 01:25.53 | Sargun | ... |
| 01:25.55 | Sargun | Yes |
| 01:25.58 | Sargun | and? |
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| 02:46.28 | elg | -lart watches |
| 02:46.28 | brac | makes watches read slashdot at -1 |
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| 05:23.47 | rsimpkins | no love from ##windows |
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| 15:10.39 | tensai | elg: http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives/2009/08/my-pizza-oven-mark-wilkie-windsor-terrace-brooklyn.html |
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| 15:26.07 | elg | cool |
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| 15:42.43 | jsmith | {-}: How goes the Thinkpad battle? |
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| 16:01.31 | {-} | Just finished talking to the tech that'll be working on it today. |
| 16:02.06 | {-} | I spent another 8 hours last night doing the dance of the full reinstall followed by never ending windows update and reboot. |
| 16:02.54 | {-} | Turns out I've discovered a method to get the touchpad working again: constant HD and CPU load for between 1.5 and 2 hours. |
| 16:04.14 | {-} | Unfortunately, it's definitely load and not a magic driver combo. If I let the working system slow down long enough to cool off, the touchpad stops working again. |
| 16:04.16 | Migs | I wonder if I'll still be in this channel 20 years from now |
| 16:04.28 | goozbach | {-}: sounds "fun"... |
| 16:07.46 | maquis | gets stuck rebooting the win box at work again |
| 16:07.51 | maquis | i rebooted yesterday :( |
| 16:09.44 | levi | Poor maquis. |
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| 16:11.00 | {-} | kickbans Migs for his own good |
| 16:11.28 | Migs | If you ban me, I shall become more powerful than you can imagine |
| 16:17.25 | {-} | At least Vim will never fail me. |
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| 16:17.46 | {-} | hugs Vim close and whispers sweet nothing in its ear |
| 16:28.52 | levi | You know FSF is becoming irrelvant when most of the high-rated comments on Slashdot, of all places, are very critical of their new campaign. |
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| 16:35.19 | tensai | I went to craigo's the other day and inside there was a sign announcing they're expanding to utah |
| 16:35.31 | tensai | sounds like they're keeping the craigo's name to me |
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| 16:41.36 | elg | -lart redbeard |
| 16:41.36 | brac | forces redbeard to use emacs for text editing |
| 16:42.33 | {-} | ~punish elg for excessive cruelty |
| 16:42.34 | ibot | ACTION chops elg in half with a free AOL CD for excessive cruelty |
| 16:43.32 | maquis | tensai: whats craigos? |
| 16:43.47 | tensai | maquis: pizza place that was discussed on plug recently |
| 16:44.05 | maquis | mmm... pizza :) |
| 16:44.38 | tensai | maquis: dave smith's brother (in-law?) owns it now. he was looking for network guys to build out the new store(s?) |
| 16:45.46 | maquis | nice |
| 16:46.15 | tensai | and being plug of course we devolved into a thread about pizza |
| 16:47.01 | maquis | mmm. |
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| 16:47.12 | maquis | we got some good pizza companies around here... |
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| 16:52.48 | tensai | http://www.theonion.com/content/news/apple_claims_new_iphone_only |
| 16:53.22 | levi | needs to visit elg and get a lunch at Facebook, apparently. |
| 16:53.39 | elg | absolutely! |
| 16:54.38 | elg | or get a job here :) |
| 16:54.47 | levi | Heh. :) |
| 16:55.14 | {-} | devolved? |
| 16:56.11 | {-} | Gravitated, perhaps. But I don't think you can ever use the word devolve in the same sentence as pizza. |
| 16:56.47 | elg | evolved sounds more appropriate |
| 16:58.02 | Jayce^ | has many fond memories of craigo's breadsticks (with cheese of course) |
| 16:58.41 | elg | for the facebook-impaired, the link levi is referring to: http://www.foodgal.com/2009/08/inside-the-cafe-at-facebook-headquarters/ |
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| 17:05.47 | javert42 | Has anybody voted for abstracts for UTOSC yet? It's not working for me. |
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| 17:34.16 | tensai | javert42: yes I've voted |
| 17:34.51 | tensai | javert42: you'll get better response if you mention it in #utos |
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| 18:09.54 | levi | This French dude was no surrender-monkey: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2009/0827/1224253336524.html |
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| 18:23.54 | Sargun | PMTUD is done by the OS, right? How can I view currently known PMTUs? |
| 18:28.16 | maquis | levi: yeah... |
| 18:28.19 | maquis | interesting story, though |
| 18:28.31 | maquis | looks like there's not really a clear explanation of what happened, though |
| 18:29.19 | maquis | read a really interesting article in Foreign Affairs a few weeks ago about piracy (particularly focused on somali piracy) and how it should be handled... |
| 18:29.43 | maquis | highly recommend it if you have the opportunity to read it (yes, i know... the magazine is kind-of expensive, but it's totally worth it) |
| 18:31.10 | tensai | Sargun: interesting question. I'd guess somewhere in /proc/sys. |
| 18:32.14 | Sargun | is losing it trying to debug this |
| 18:33.00 | Sargun | I'm getting terrible bandwidth between two hosts |
| 18:33.08 | Sargun | latency? |
| 18:35.26 | goozbach | kinked cat 6 cable |
| 18:35.31 | goozbach | or a faulty connector |
| 18:35.42 | goozbach | or mostly un-seated pci card |
| 18:35.44 | Sargun | ..... |
| 18:35.50 | Sargun | One is in Slough |
| 18:35.55 | Sargun | the other is in Sunnyvale. |
| 18:36.04 | Sargun | that'd be an awfully long cat6 cable. |
| 18:36.48 | Sargun | wonders how to look for packet loss other than ping |
| 18:38.04 | Sargun | What's the name of that one tool that does tcp ping? |
| 18:38.51 | goozbach | traceroute |
| 18:38.55 | goozbach | tcping |
| 18:38.58 | goozbach | mtr |
| 18:39.01 | goozbach | telnet |
| 18:39.03 | goozbach | nc |
| 18:40.45 | Sargun | echoping + hping |
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| 19:48.23 | tensai | tcptraceroute |
| 19:48.33 | tensai | mtr rocks |
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| 19:57.18 | harleypig | Stop blaming me! |
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| 19:58.53 | harleypig | http://pictureisunrelated.com/2009/08/26/straight-granny/ |
| 19:59.00 | goozbach | ibot: onjoin sjansen |
| 19:59.00 | ibot | onjoin for sjansen set by sjansen on Sun Aug 16 17:26:19 2009: http://pictureisunrelated.com/2009/08/16/wtf-im-ready-to-emancipate-myself-from-the-ground/ |
| 20:07.39 | Jayce^ | adding to the latest microsoft meme: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7308/microsoftlocalisation.jpg |
| 20:09.18 | goozbach | nice |
| 20:13.08 | Sargun | How do I compare two captures and see which packets were lost? |
| 20:16.44 | goozbach | wireshark |
| 20:29.00 | Sargun | goozbach, by hand? |
| 20:29.25 | goozbach | suppose so |
| 20:29.31 | goozbach | follow stream is pretty cool |
| 20:31.29 | Sargun | Ok, wtf, one of these captures has 37k packets, and the other has 8k |
| 20:32.32 | goozbach | so I'm guessing something is getting dropped on one side :) |
| 20:34.27 | maquis | Sargun: that sounds like they're different... |
| 20:34.28 | maquis | :) |
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| 20:36.24 | Sargun | wtf, there are a bunch of 0 byte ACKs |
| 20:59.43 | jsmith | Sargun: Any luck tracking down the culprit? |
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| 21:00.37 | Sargun | jsmith, Not quite yet |
| 21:08.50 | sjansen | *sigh* |
| 21:09.45 | sjansen | Well, the tech battled my laptop for almost 2.5 hours and my laptop still isn't working. |
| 21:11.10 | goozbach | sjansen: when they gonna replace it? |
| 21:11.34 | sjansen | I _should_ be getting a shipping label today. |
| 21:12.18 | sjansen | I'm not sure if they're mystified by what hardware problem could cause this, or still not convinced I don't have a software problem. |
| 21:21.18 | Jayce^ | sjansen: you try switching to windows 7 again? is that what this is? |
| 21:27.25 | findlay | ~switch sjansen |
| 21:39.28 | sjansen | ~punish Jayce^ |
| 21:39.29 | ibot | ACTION forces Jayce^ to install and use Windows |
| 21:43.09 | jshipley | ibot should force Jayce^ to install and use Windows ME |
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| 22:18.49 | sjansen | I'm pretty sure that'd be a violation of the Geneva conventions or something. |
| 22:25.15 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.34 | JoshH | probably gift, i think bonuses have to be money |
| 22:29.37 | JoshH | but i could be wrong |
| 22:35.57 | goozbach | depends on the horse cut from |
| 22:36.13 | goozbach | I don't think you have to report anything < $500 |
| 22:36.51 | goozbach | wonders what's changed at GL since he left... |
| 22:40.49 | Sargun | Who here wants a tiny customer, and has Equinix LD4 on net? |
| 22:55.34 | sjansen | goozbach: Just discussing an upcoming class with Shaun. |
| 22:56.05 | Sargun | goozbach, you know, they have NDAs to prevent you from finding out that kind of stuff |
| 22:56.06 | Sargun | :-P |
| 22:56.08 | Sargun | (Kidding) |
| 22:57.11 | sjansen | As it turns out, the question is moot because Bryan isn't comfortable letting Shaun put it on the company card. |
| 22:57.31 | sjansen | Of course, that might just mean that he'd have to 1099 me at the end of the year. |
| 23:12.46 | maquis | my back hurts :( |
| 23:14.54 | goozbach | maquis: try a cold pack |
| 23:14.57 | goozbach | or a hot pack |
| 23:15.06 | maquis | mmm... that sounds like a good idea |
| 23:15.11 | goozbach | or laying on the floor with your legs up on the sofa |
| 23:15.14 | sjansen | secretly fills maquis's computer bag with 20 pounds in Folger's coffee |
| 23:15.21 | sjansen | Let's see if she can tell the difference! |
| 23:16.50 | maquis | ~lart sjansen |
| 23:16.50 | ibot | shoots sjansen in his sleep |
| 23:33.38 | jlp_work | maquis: at least you can sleep right now (well, a little, anyway). after the baby is born, you will discover that sleeping is one of those things that you *used* to do. |
| 23:39.29 | maquis | jlp_work: sometimes... |
| 23:39.48 | maquis | recently, i think i toss about as much as i sleep |
| 23:39.55 | maquis | but yeah... |
| 23:40.16 | jlp_work | just keep telling yourself "it's worth it. it's worth it." |
| 23:40.20 | maquis | yup |
| 23:40.29 | jlp_work | and really, it is. |
| 23:40.36 | maquis | i'm sure it will be |
| 23:40.59 | maquis | it's just harder to remember that sometimes right now |
| 23:41.26 | jlp_work | heh heh... wait until about three years from now and then tell me how hard it is to remember :-) |
| 23:41.34 | jlp_work | and then again, about 15 years from now |
| 23:41.36 | maquis | when i've had ultrasounds, though... it's way easier to remember how worth it it'll be |
| 23:41.40 | maquis | heh |
| 23:42.06 | maquis | i'm guessing it's always just a matter of the day |
| 23:42.24 | jlp_work | my daughter is 15... got her learner's permit a couple of weeks ago. freaked me out. |
| 23:42.30 | maquis | yipes |
| 23:42.46 | maquis | definitely doesn't want to think of having a daughter driving |
| 23:42.51 | jlp_work | yeah, for some reason it was easier with the boys, but she's my little baby girl :-) |
| 23:42.57 | maquis | heh |
| 23:43.00 | maquis | is she your youngest? |
| 23:43.18 | jlp_work | no, we have one son who is a sixth grader this year... bringing up the rear |
| 23:43.26 | maquis | realizes that she has absolutely no idea how old jlp_work is :) |
| 23:43.32 | jlp_work | feels old |
| 23:43.33 | maquis | ah |
| 23:43.35 | maquis | lol |
| 23:43.46 | maquis | no worries |
| 23:43.59 | maquis | my mom is ecstatic that she now gets to be a grandma |
| 23:44.24 | jlp_work | yeah, we're somewhat looking forward to that. our oldest has been married for a year now. no babies on the way, yet. |
| 23:44.30 | maquis | heh |
| 23:44.36 | maquis | it'll happen |
| 23:45.01 | jlp_work | I'm sure. my daughter-in-law says she wants to finish school first... she's going for an MD |
| 23:45.08 | maquis | oh wow |
| 23:45.10 | jlp_work | finishing her undergrad this year |
| 23:45.23 | maquis | what's her specialty going to be? |
| 23:45.33 | jlp_work | believe it or not, she wants to be a medical examiner |
| 23:45.44 | jlp_work | talk about freaky |
| 23:45.54 | maquis | heh |
| 23:46.11 | jlp_work | but she sat in on an autopsy last year and it didn't freak *her* out, so I guess that's a good sign |
| 23:46.17 | maquis | yeah |
| 23:46.25 | maquis | that'd honestly be kind of interesting |
| 23:46.37 | jlp_work | I just don't think I could do it every day. |
| 23:46.37 | maquis | and probably a little less insane of schedule than most of what you'd do with medicine |
| 23:47.15 | maquis | my dad's a doc, so i grew up knowing i could never handle the medical profession. takes too much out of you |
| 23:47.36 | jlp_work | ahh. |
| 23:47.58 | jlp_work | nice having a physician in the family, though. so long as it isn't me :-) |
| 23:48.04 | maquis | yeah |
| 23:48.21 | jlp_work | my dad is ex military... I didn't do that, either |
| 23:48.28 | maquis | yeah... |
| 23:48.35 | jlp_work | (well, I did do the reserves for 4 years, but not active duty) |
| 23:48.42 | maquis | how'd your reserves time go? |
| 23:49.03 | maquis | my husband's in the reserves, and unfortunately things are a bit crazy these days for reserves |
| 23:49.35 | jlp_work | good. I was in school. ROTC program. two weeks before commissioning they came back and said "oh, yeah, well, we need you wait for a couple of years before you go on active duty... or you can get out of the program with no strings attached" |
| 23:49.50 | jlp_work | at the time I had a four month old baby... I decided to get out of the program. |
| 23:49.50 | maquis | ooh... nice |
| 23:50.21 | jlp_work | it took me a few months to find a job (not having interviewed with any recruiters on campus), but I've never looked back. |
| 23:50.39 | jlp_work | I'm satisfied how things turned out |
| 23:50.40 | maquis | i don't blame you |
| 23:50.43 | maquis | yeah |
| 23:50.47 | maquis | that's lucky |
| 23:51.00 | jlp_work | did you husband have to deploy to the middle east? |
| 23:51.13 | jlp_work | s/you/your/ |
| 23:51.17 | maquis | nah... he's in a conus group currently... |
| 23:51.50 | maquis | previously, while he was in school, he was supposed to go overseas, but for some reason they sent them to colorado instead, to prep people going over |
| 23:51.54 | maquis | so, he's been pretty lucky |
| 23:51.55 | jlp_work | let's hope it stays that way. I remember my dad doing a TDY to Thailand back during the Vietnam war... I think I was five or six. he was gone a year. |
| 23:52.06 | maquis | yeah |
| 23:52.07 | maquis | see PM |
| 23:52.09 | maquis | :P |
| 23:54.59 | jlp_work | whoops, time to blast out of here. talk to you later. |
| 23:55.04 | maquis | later |
