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04:01.29wolfe_Any evolution email experts?
04:02.04wolfe_looking to setup exchange email at UofU using evolution
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15:05.30tensailevi: vdpau sounds pretty cool
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15:10.56Sargun_screenWhat's the best looking picture here: http://sargun.smugmug.com/gallery/7034129_ccGpt
15:12.16tensaibest for what purpose?
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15:12.50Sargun_screentensai: Personal profile
15:13.28tensaithe blurry one :P
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15:17.07Sargun_screensmacks tensai :-P
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15:37.33unumwhy would I get a command not found on a shell script that I know is there
15:37.49neybarpath got borked?
15:38.00unumI can do tab completion
15:38.08unumthere was a system upgrade...
15:38.22sinuheunum: permissions?
15:39.20unumI have read and execute permissions
15:39.28unumactually I have rwx permisions
15:39.42unumI can pull it up in vi
15:39.52unumthe first line is #!/bin/csh
15:39.57unum/bin/csh exists
15:44.10unumif type csh script.csh it works
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15:57.40maquisunum: what if you just type script.csh?
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16:01.35unummaquis: than it says command not found
16:01.42unumsame if I type ./script.csh
16:01.52unumturns out though that wasn't my problem
16:02.04unumit's running right from in side the script it runs inside of....
16:02.12unumthere was another problem
16:03.41maquisunum: ok
16:03.41maquis:)
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16:09.35^Migs^hahahahahaha http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6350237.ece
16:09.42^Migs^"Government advisers are developing menus to combat climate change by cutting out “high carbon” food such as meat from sheep, whose burping poses a serious threat to the environment."
16:12.34^Migs^"Kennedy has stopped eating his favourite doner kebabs because they contain lamb."
16:12.41^Migs^idiot.  Wouldn't the obvious solution to this problem be...eat MORE lambs?
16:15.01maquishttp://www.teleread.org/2009/05/25/student-runs-guerilla-banned-book-locker-library/
16:15.03brac[Student runs guerilla banned-book locker library | TeleRead: Bring the E-Books Home]
16:15.16maquis^Migs^: that's what i was thinking as i read your first quote...
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17:39.19tensaipretty quiet today
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17:47.55jsmithtensai: Maybe for you!
17:48.07jsmithtensai: For me, it's been nothing but non-stop sirens
18:13.01maquisjsmith: sirens outside, or sirens like a pager going off?
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18:21.27sjansenhttp://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/political-pictures-google-bullies1.jpg
18:23.13sjansenhttp://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/political-pictures-bill-gates-bitsy-spider.jpg
18:23.49sjansenhttp://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/political-pictures-egos-explode.jpg
18:24.12sjansenhttp://punditkitchen.com/2009/05/07/political-pictures-dazzle-dance/
18:25.40sjansenhttp://punditkitchen.com/2009/04/27/political-pictures-bush-putin-george-punkd/
18:26.42sjansenhttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/05/22/funny-pictures-teh-house-till-we-findz-it/
18:26.43eightyeighthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/popculture/a359/zoom/
18:26.52brac[ThinkGeek :: God Kills a LOLcat :: Zoom!]
18:27.00sjansenhttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/05/21/funny-pictures-clown-will-eat-me/
18:27.00eightyeighthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/popculture/a359/zoom/
18:27.03brac[ThinkGeek :: God Kills a LOLcat :: Zoom!]
18:27.37sjansenMy work here is done.
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19:21.39jsmithmaquis: To answer your question (from a while ago), both real sirens (cops and all!) and virtual sirens going off in my brain
19:24.07maquisjsmith: lol
19:24.59maquisthere's a fire station not far from where i work...  and we're on a busy road... so i hear fire trucks going by reasonably often... :)
19:37.03unumso what is the best way to handle a limited chroot enviroment on centos
19:38.20sjansenDefine "handle".
19:38.23tensaiwhen they built the airport here, they put in a firestation just down the road. it's maybe a mile away.
19:38.25tensai<PROTECTED>
19:38.55tensaiit's a pretty big waste to have two so close together
19:39.15unumsjansen: create/update/maintain
19:39.27SargunPeople over reacted to 9/11
19:40.02Sarguntensai, redundancy is a good thing.
19:40.13sjansenSargun: Gee, ya think?
19:40.23maquistensai: wow... yeah
19:40.34maquisactually, i suppose we've got a similar thing
19:40.45Sargunsjansen, I didn't over react.. I wasn't in favour of invading Iraq.
19:40.48sjansenI think all but the most insane now realize that our response to 9/11 was overblown.
19:40.54maquiswe have our fire station, which services our city, but then at paine field, they have their own
19:40.59maquisbut they've always had their own, i think
19:41.14Sargunsjansen, A good chunk of america believes that we're fightin' 'em terrorists!
19:41.28sjansenInvading Iraq wasn't a reaction to 9/11. It was an opportunistic deception.
19:41.31maquisprobably because they're not a "normal" airport -- they don't actually have scheduled flights coming in/out...  
19:41.53Sargunsjansen, I wasn't in favour of forming DHS/TSA
19:42.02tensaimaquis: having a firestation at the airport isn't a problem. it's just a waste when there's already one just a few blocks away.
19:42.05maquisthey build and test the boeing airliners there...
19:42.09sjansenunum: There are no general purpose tools for maintaining a chroot on CentOS, that I'm aware of.
19:42.22sjansen~give Sargun a gold star
19:42.23ibotACTION gives a gold star to Sargun
19:42.27maquisand they have some individuals who own small planes who use a side runway as well
19:42.38sjansen~congratulate Sargun
19:42.39ibotACTION congratulates Sargun on being a new owner of a $500 brick.
19:42.43maquistensai: well, our city one is less than a mile from paine field
19:42.53SargunDHS is like taking a ferrari, lamborgini (sp?), and a lotus, bolting them all together and lighting them on fire.
19:43.36maquisand they're trained to some degree on how to handle plane fires... but that's more for backing up boeing's people
19:43.45unumI should write some scripts
19:43.51tensaisjansen: overreactions win votes
19:44.36SargunAnyone know of any good data centers in the UK?
19:45.05maquistensai: when there have been small-plane crashes in our area, usually the paine field people respond in addition to the local ones if it's off of the boeing property, because they have more training with the dynamics involved with working with planes...
19:45.36maquisif there were to be a large plane crash... i'm assuming both would respond, though...
19:45.47tensaiSargun: the queen has an ipod. you could put some data on it.
19:45.56Sarguntensai, I would like that.
19:47.56maquisspeaking of planes... if you've never seen one of these in the air, you've got to see it:
19:47.59maquishttp://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/4/7/6/1175674.jpg
19:48.04goozbachunum: why the chroot?
19:48.21tensaimaquis: did it swallow a cesna?
19:48.24maquisi ended up laughing pretty hard after the first time i saw it in the air...
19:48.31maquistensai: it's used to carry parts for the boeing 787
19:48.51maquisit looks completely out of place in the air, though
19:49.13tensainot much call for that 'round here
19:49.18maquisyeah
19:50.09unumgoozbach: we need to allow our clients to run a certain service on our server
19:50.09maquiswe see it a lot... it's pretty weird
19:50.57unumI used to a see a lot of military planes
19:51.14unumI need to find a video of a manuver my brother was talking about
19:52.09maquiswe don't get too many military planes... the nearest air force base is a few miles away... but after 9/11, the fighters practiced scrambling over our house...
19:52.09tensaimaquis: it used to be much uglier. http://www.seattlepi.com/photos/photo.asp?PhotoID=103663
19:52.11brac[seattlepi.com: Photo Journal]
19:54.28sjansenmaquis: That might be larger, but this is funnier looking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_Spacelines_Super_Guppy
19:54.40sjansenFor comparison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747_Large_Cargo_Freighter
19:54.55maquishehe
19:55.30unumI grew up two miles from an air force base.  directly under the land path
19:55.38unummy schools were all under the take off path
19:55.46tensaia google image search for ugly plane shows some pretty bizarre designs
19:56.19tensaiunum: better than being in the bomb path :)
19:58.15unumtensai: well we were all sure we were near the top of the list for Russia ICBM targets
19:59.17tensaiall my ssl exceptions seem to have been forgotten by firefox. that's annoying.
20:00.16maquisunum: yeah...  
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20:00.52maquiswe have a major naval base a few miles north, an air force base a few miles to the west, and boeing a mile to the west....
20:00.58maquiser
20:00.58maquiseast
20:01.01maquisboeing is to the east
20:02.03goozbachunum: what kind of service?
20:04.50sjansenhttp://www.seattlepi.com/business/293851_freighterwake28.html
20:04.51brac[Cessna rattled by Boeing plane's wake]
20:06.08tensai650MB used by firefox???
20:06.15tensaiof ram, that is
20:08.17Sargunthat's neat
20:15.06^Migs^that's nothing.  I've gotten almost up to 2GB of RAM used by Firefox
20:18.14maquisi had to reboot this morning (stupid win box), so mine's only using 130 MB
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20:23.34unumgoozbach: a proprietary program with licensing restrictions
20:23.55goozbachhmm
20:24.04goozbachsetup a login script which runs it?
20:24.18goozbachcreating a chroot is kinda easy
20:24.21goozbachmoch
20:24.23goozbacher mach
20:24.25goozbachor mock
20:24.34Sargunhuh
20:26.33unumI have a chroot set up and I use pam_chroot to switch my users to it
20:26.40unumit's just debian has packages that make it easier
20:26.52unumso I wondered if centos did
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20:38.56ibotfindlay: ok
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21:07.35maquis~lart friocorte
21:07.35ibotsqueezes friocorte till friocorte turns blue like papa smurf
21:09.00friocorteinteresting...
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21:30.02^Migs^http://drop.io/babybella/asset/vid00019-avi    one month old :)
21:30.08^Migs^crap, that went fast
21:44.01sjansenWTF?! Solaris 10 requires SQLite to boot?
21:47.13jsmithblinks
21:47.18jsmithsjansen: Are you serious?
21:47.23funguslol
21:47.27fungus~lart Solaris
21:47.27ibotputs on some milking gloves. "All right, now, Solaris, this won't hurt a bit...."
21:47.36fungus~hug ZFS
21:47.37ibotACTION sneaks up on ZFS and suddenly hugs ZFS tightly
21:48.21sjansenIt's hidden behind an API layer, and direct access is unsupported, but yup. At the heart of SMF is a couple SQLite databases.
21:48.38sjansenWe live in odd times.
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22:12.28mrpullso what is the deal with Orem City recycling hardware from the PLUG bbq (but not really recycling)?
22:27.47tensaiwolphram alpha launched publicly today
22:28.07tensaipretty neat
22:30.17utahcontensai: been playing with it for a few days... didn't know it wasn't public.
22:30.47utahconmy bad... wrong spelling of wolfram
22:31.01harleypigHollywood is rebooting Buffy ... without Whedon ...
22:31.20tensaiguess I didn't ever try it before today. it says it was released 5/15. I heard about it but thought it was still in private release.
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22:31.37tensaiutahcon: oops, my bad. wolfram.
22:31.49utahcontensai: today is 5/26
22:32.03utahconyeah it is ... neat.
22:38.56Sargunharleypig, seriously? they'll screw it up.
23:03.53SargunWolfram alpha fail: http://www76.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=am+I+going+to+die%3F

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