| 00:01.26 | harleypig | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?src=rss&id=6088 Gives new meaning to 'whale tail'. |
| 00:01.30 | harleypig | You can thank Jayce^ |
| 00:03.09 | Heartsbane | that foodblister is gonna bust through the glass |
| 00:03.29 | Heartsbane | thanks Jayce^ |
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| 00:22.18 | harleypig | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?src=rss&id=6155 Another one you can thank Jayce^ for |
| 00:23.32 | harleypig | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=562 |
| 00:23.51 | harleypig | That's gotta be photoshopped. |
| 00:24.42 | Jayce^ | took me a second.. |
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| 01:33.49 | Sargun_Screen | meh, I hope my starter isn't going out. |
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| 03:29.02 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help chat' |
| 03:30.04 | findlay | ~say -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 03:30.05 | ibot | -chat ~onjoin findlay |
| 03:30.06 | brac | ~onjoin findlay -chat ~say -chat ~shoot convolution |
| 03:30.06 | ibot | ok, brac |
| 03:30.31 | findlay | -chat ~lart Supaplex |
| 03:30.31 | brac | ~lart Supaplex |
| 03:30.31 | ibot | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking Supaplex's head off |
| 03:39.14 | findlay | -chat Supaplex |
| 03:39.14 | brac | Supaplex did |
| 03:39.20 | findlay | -chat findlay |
| 03:39.20 | brac | findlay was |
| 03:39.23 | findlay | -chat findlay is |
| 03:39.23 | brac | findlay is |
| 03:51.38 | Supaplex | sup |
| 03:52.17 | Supaplex | it's a good thing I have a cron job check-for-scotts-head.pl |
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| 04:24.16 | fozzmoo | Man, I am banging my head against the wall here. I need to suck messages via IMAP and create mbox files. |
| 04:24.29 | fozzmoo | Exactly backwards of what I did before. |
| 04:24.43 | zzzirk | ouch, sounds painful |
| 04:26.48 | goozbach | ouch |
| 04:27.01 | zzzirk | sounds backwards period to me ;) |
| 04:27.04 | goozbach | fozzmoo: setup a simple dovecot box which used mbox |
| 04:27.11 | goozbach | then suck, then push |
| 04:27.16 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 04:28.18 | goozbach | is pretty close to a kick ass bash prompt, inspired (kinda) by atoponce |
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| 04:32.49 | findlay | $, the only prompt you need |
| 04:32.53 | findlay | runs |
| 04:32.58 | zzzirk | the original prompt |
| 04:32.59 | zzzirk | :D |
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| 04:48.36 | levi | Man, The Sarah Connor Chronicles is killing me. |
| 04:51.28 | jackman | What's that? |
| 04:52.02 | levi | A TV show set in the Terminator mythos. |
| 04:52.19 | jackman | How well does it follow? |
| 04:52.43 | levi | It's supposed to be sort of a sequel to T2. |
| 04:53.28 | levi | It's been long enough since I've seen the movies that I couldn't really say how closely it follows, but I like it. |
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| 04:56.37 | fozzmoo | I like it too. Why's it killing you? |
| 04:56.37 | levi | Watching it one episode at a time. |
| 04:56.37 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 04:56.37 | fozzmoo | Like the good ole days. |
| 04:56.37 | levi | I need to know what happens next. :) |
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| 04:56.48 | levi | Who's really on John's side? |
| 04:57.48 | fozzmoo | If I wasn't banging my head on IMAP to Mbox conversion I'd be right there with you. |
| 04:57.55 | fozzmoo | Why is this so hard? |
| 04:58.14 | fozzmoo | Something tells me this would be cake if I used fetchmail |
| 04:58.25 | levi | Heh. |
| 04:58.27 | fozzmoo | But I don't want to re-learn fetchmail right now. |
| 04:58.32 | levi | I do use fetchmail. It's easy. |
| 04:58.42 | fozzmoo | But doesn't it rewrite stuff? |
| 04:58.56 | levi | What do you mean by rewrite stuff? |
| 04:58.58 | fozzmoo | headers. |
| 04:59.05 | levi | Oh, I don't know. |
| 04:59.23 | fozzmoo | I need an mbox file that I can stick in /var/spool/mail on a server. |
| 05:00.12 | levi | I believe that's what fetchmail is doing for me. It's sticking all my remote mail in /var/spool/mail/levi, and then gnus grabs it from there and files it appropriately. |
| 05:00.27 | levi | I set it up ages ago, though, and I've forgotten about the details. |
| 05:00.30 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 05:00.44 | fozzmoo | That's kind of how fetchmail is... you learn it, write your conf file,and forget about it. :) |
| 05:03.14 | levi | Now I want my wife to get home so we can watch Chuck together. |
| 05:05.03 | jackman | do you have any experience with dovecot? |
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| 05:57.26 | Supaplex | http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/23/massachusetts.piano/index.html |
| 05:57.29 | brac | [Mystery piano in woods perplexes police - CNN.com] |
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| 15:48.14 | goozbach | oh boy |
| 15:48.20 | goozbach | it's turning out to not be my week |
| 15:48.29 | goozbach | stupid freaking laptop |
| 15:48.37 | goozbach | stupid freaking fedora 9 |
| 15:48.51 | goozbach | since when does fedora mount by uuid? |
| 15:49.05 | goozbach | and did you know that LVM now has writable snapshots? |
| 15:49.21 | goozbach | did you know when you make a snapshot of a filesystem, the UUID stays the same? |
| 15:49.26 | goozbach | I do now |
| 15:49.48 | goozbach | one full day has disapeared from my home directory. |
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| 16:05.42 | jshipley | goozback: I never did like the uuid solution... it made /etc/fstab to hard to edit by hand |
| 16:06.14 | jshipley | I know that you can still use the old way, but often the partitions in /etc/fstab weren't even commented, so you had to take time to figure out what each partition was |
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| 18:21.22 | Sargun_Screen | I hope they ship my laser today |
| 18:21.32 | Sargun_Screen | ~seen xbmodder |
| 18:21.35 | ibot | xbmodder <n=xbmodder@atarack/staff/sargun> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 110d 23h 19m 22s ago, saying: 'gah'. |
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| 18:37.14 | elg | -lart kuklomenos |
| 18:37.14 | brac | makes kuklomenos read slashdot at -1 |
| 19:15.44 | ^Migs^ | http://statestats.appspot.com/?q=walmart |
| 19:22.13 | harleypig | Is there an iPhone emulator? |
| 19:22.27 | Jayce^ | on mac, with the sdk |
| 19:22.46 | Jayce^ | ask the guy sitting in the office by you to show you (matt) |
| 19:34.34 | harleypig | http://www.jumbojoke.com/mans_best_friend_has_his_limits.html |
| 19:34.35 | brac | [Man's Best Friend Has His Limits] |
| 19:34.50 | harleypig | But nothing for linux? |
| 19:35.24 | Jayce^ | no |
| 19:35.33 | harleypig | well, that sucks |
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| 19:40.44 | ibot | steals vontrapp's parking sticker |
| 19:40.52 | vontrapp | any tailor gurus here? |
| 19:41.16 | vontrapp | when i try to tailor darcs -> svn, tailor gives darcs a bad option and fails |
| 19:41.26 | vontrapp | --repo foo rather than --repodir foo |
| 20:23.33 | fozzmoo | vontrapp: Seems like it's been forever since I've seen you on #utah |
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| 20:24.47 | sjansen | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/funny-pictures-cat-demands-that-baby-worship-him.jpg |
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| 20:57.26 | tuple | -lart elg |
| 20:57.26 | brac | puts sugar between elg's bedsheets |
| 20:59.30 | sjansen | ~lart tuple |
| 20:59.30 | ibot | strangles tuple with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 21:09.02 | sjansen | ~fry elg |
| 21:09.02 | ibot | ACTION grabs elg and fries him on his BFCooker9000 |
| 21:09.21 | sjansen | ~bake redbeard2 |
| 21:09.21 | ibot | I think you mean ~cook redbeard2, sjansen |
| 21:09.44 | redbeard2 | ~brulee sjansen |
| 21:09.45 | ibot | ACTION whisks sjansen with eggs and cream, and bakes at 350F before sprinkling with sugar and torching |
| 21:10.42 | Jayce^ | "brutality" |
| 21:11.04 | redbeard2 | ~brutality Jayce^ |
| 21:11.18 | redbeard2 | it was worth a shot |
| 21:11.31 | harleypig | ~brutalize Jayce^ |
| 21:11.38 | harleypig | So was that. :> |
| 21:11.53 | sjansen | ~bake redbeard2 |
| 21:11.54 | ibot | ACTION introduces redbeard2 to Cheech and Chong |
| 21:12.40 | Jayce^ | ~paint harleypig |
| 21:12.41 | ibot | ACTION rains a tape stream of paintballs on harleypig |
| 21:12.50 | goozbach | ~pants harleypig |
| 21:12.51 | ibot | ACTION steals harleypig's pants |
| 21:12.52 | Jayce^ | ~fart redbeard2 |
| 21:12.53 | ibot | ACTION farts in redbeard2's general direction |
| 21:13.02 | goozbach | ~bzfrag redbeard2 |
| 21:13.03 | ibot | ACTION destroys redbeard2 with a guided missile |
| 21:13.10 | harleypig | ~elderberry redbeard2 |
| 21:13.17 | harleypig | feh |
| 21:13.22 | harleypig | ~cow redbeard2 |
| 21:13.22 | ibot | ACTION moos at redbeard2 |
| 21:13.33 | harleypig | That should be catapults! |
| 21:13.35 | Jayce^ | ~shrubbery harleypig |
| 21:13.44 | harleypig | ~ni Jayce^ |
| 21:13.49 | Jayce^ | ~herring harleypig |
| 21:13.49 | ibot | ACTION whacks harleypig on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 21:14.00 | redbeard2 | ~trout harleypig |
| 21:14.01 | ibot | ACTION slaps harleypig around a bit with a large trout! |
| 21:14.01 | goozbach | ~whalesplat Jayce^ |
| 21:14.15 | goozbach | wha?! no whalesplat? |
| 21:14.22 | goozbach | ~whaleslap Jayce^ |
| 21:14.23 | ibot | ACTION beats Jayce^ upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:14.49 | goozbach | so I finished my overly complicated fancy bash prompt |
| 21:14.59 | elg | anyone store config files (in ~) in a revision control system? what's your scheme? |
| 21:15.10 | Jayce^ | ~whalebomb goozbach |
| 21:15.10 | ibot | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at goozbach and hides. |
| 21:15.13 | elg | how do you handle disparate systems? e.g. some things are different in osx than linux |
| 21:16.07 | goozbach | elg: I use bzr |
| 21:16.21 | elg | the particular RCS seems irrelevant |
| 21:16.22 | goozbach | inside the directory ~/projects/bash-settings/ |
| 21:16.25 | Jayce^ | no goozbach you *are* bizarre |
| 21:16.35 | goozbach | I know, I'm just telling you the entire story |
| 21:16.40 | elg | ok good |
| 21:16.42 | elg | pops popcorn |
| 21:17.02 | goozbach | elg: I then make files in ~/projects/bash-settings/ named dot.somefile |
| 21:17.10 | goozbach | eg ~/projects/bash-settings/dot.bashrc |
| 21:17.23 | goozbach | that file I then link to my homedir |
| 21:17.29 | goozbach | symlink if possible |
| 21:17.50 | goozbach | not sure if OSX's filesystems support symlinks |
| 21:18.08 | elg | sounds similar to what i've got so far - ~/config which contains e.g. .bashrc and friends, and symlinks into ~ |
| 21:18.15 | elg | yeah it does |
| 21:18.20 | goozbach | I then have a directory ~/projects/bash-settings/profile.d which I link to ~/.profile.d |
| 21:19.03 | goozbach | in my .bashrc I have a loop which goes through each *.sh in ~/.profile.d and sources it |
| 21:19.15 | goozbach | then it sources each *.bash |
| 21:19.29 | goozbach | (all the bash specific things in those files) |
| 21:19.49 | sjansen | hands goozbach the Rube Goldberg Award for Excellence in Convolution |
| 21:19.50 | goozbach | you could extend this with a *.osx extension which would run just in osx |
| 21:20.05 | elg | but it's not just osx vs linux |
| 21:20.08 | goozbach | sjansen: you should see my prompt |
| 21:20.10 | elg | it's also some systems vs others |
| 21:20.12 | goozbach | elg: I know |
| 21:20.16 | elg | based on their purpose, etc. |
| 21:20.19 | elg | and it's not just bash |
| 21:20.26 | goozbach | make a different extension for the different types |
| 21:20.32 | elg | it's everything from vim to irssi that i might want to do it for |
| 21:20.33 | elg | to gnupg |
| 21:20.38 | goozbach | ahh |
| 21:20.51 | goozbach | that gets complex |
| 21:21.10 | elg | i anticipate that the individual mechanism will be dependent on the program |
| 21:21.11 | goozbach | use a distrubuted revision control system and make different branches for different servers |
| 21:21.15 | elg | for bash, something like what you have |
| 21:21.29 | elg | i thought of that |
| 21:21.32 | elg | i actually did that once |
| 21:21.36 | elg | and it got so brittle and useless |
| 21:21.48 | elg | because a change here i'd want everywhere, but then another change i would only want locally, etc. |
| 21:21.50 | goozbach | my bash system has two branches, a cxri branch, which contains all my local-to-$dayjob stuff |
| 21:22.07 | elg | and cherry picking is generally not well-facilitated even in distributed RCSs |
| 21:22.14 | goozbach | cherry pick?! |
| 21:22.16 | goozbach | ohh |
| 21:22.18 | goozbach | nm |
| 21:22.33 | elg | so I think local changes need to shadow global settings |
| 21:22.43 | goozbach | hmm |
| 21:22.48 | goozbach | global settings in one file |
| 21:22.52 | goozbach | local changed in another |
| 21:22.59 | goozbach | s/changed/changes/ |
| 21:23.02 | elg | right |
| 21:23.31 | elg | or when that's not possible, the local copy will just have to manually merge in the global ones |
| 21:23.41 | elg | say, that gives me an idea |
| 21:23.47 | elg | ~/config is the same on all hosts |
| 21:23.48 | ibot | ...but /config is already something else... |
| 21:23.52 | elg | thanks bot |
| 21:24.04 | goozbach | ~/config |
| 21:24.05 | ibot | /config is, like, only a storage place for things like .purple, .mozilla... |
| 21:24.25 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.33 | goozbach | ~/config-local for local |
| 21:24.35 | elg | and ~/local is a local branch |
| 21:24.41 | elg | a clone of ~/config |
| 21:24.51 | elg | but only the locally-modified files get symlinked to ~/local |
| 21:24.53 | goozbach | make sure local is called last |
| 21:25.26 | elg | so ~/.vimrc would be a symlink to ~/config/.vimrc but ~/.inputrc might be to ~/local/.inputrc |
| 21:26.04 | elg | and of course where more sophistication is allowed (the equivalent of sourceing or #include) you don't have to shadow the whole file |
| 21:26.47 | elg | the fact that ~/local is a clone of ~/config, means you can pull from ~/config when you pull ~/config from another host |
| 21:26.52 | elg | and merge in your global changes |
| 21:27.02 | elg | into shadowed versions of local files |
| 21:29.33 | harleypig | <vbox height="155> |
| 21:29.44 | harleypig | <hbox height="150" WIDTH="150" C> |
| 21:29.46 | elg | -lart harleypig |
| 21:29.46 | brac | puts harleypig in a room with several heavily armed manic depressives |
| 21:29.49 | harleypig | crap |
| 21:29.54 | harleypig | wrong window |
| 21:29.56 | harleypig | s0rry |
| 21:30.18 | jnbek | heh |
| 21:32.04 | harleypig | wonders if glade works for xul ... |
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| 21:44.06 | harleypig | not easily |
| 21:44.08 | harleypig | *sigh* |
| 21:47.02 | harleypig | just need something that shows me what stuff will look like. |
| 21:47.18 | harleypig | and it looks like the extension developer plugin has a xul editor that does this ... |
| 21:53.38 | mrpull | for the TMNT fans: http://www.pinkcoyote.net/leonardoodle.jpg |
| 22:11.12 | eightyeight | what is it? a pillow? |
| 22:11.24 | mrpull | a poodle! |
| 22:11.51 | eightyeight | that's an actual dog?! |
| 22:12.08 | mrpull | http://www.urlesque.com/2008/11/25/cindy-the-poodle-doesnt-look-like-a-dog/ |
| 22:12.14 | brac | [Cindy the Poodle Doesn't Look Like a Dog - Urlesque] |
| 22:12.51 | eightyeight | that lady shouldbe checked in |
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| 22:21.29 | harleypig | eightyeight: I've been programming for too long ... I thought "she doesn't need to be checked in, she needs to be moved to Attic" |
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| 22:27.33 | eightyeight | heh |
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| 22:44.16 | Sargun | I can't wait until my Wicked Laser gets here!!! |
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| 23:53.55 | harleypig | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=2502 |
| 23:57.57 | Jayce^ | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=3987 |
