| 00:12.55 | elg | just cleaned the dishwasher. ugh |
| 00:46.31 | levi | elg: How was it dirty? |
| 00:47.13 | findlay | sontek: openmoko in production as of the 10th |
| 00:47.19 | elg | gunk in and under the drain (had to undo some bolts to get in and get it all) |
| 00:47.38 | elg | and I mean a lot of gunk. and it was making dishes dirtier than when they went in |
| 00:48.06 | levi | Ew. |
| 00:48.15 | elg | so got all the gunk off, now I'm running an empty load with vinegar |
| 00:48.18 | levi | I want a new dishwasher. |
| 00:48.41 | elg | so fire the one you have. ;-) |
| 00:49.25 | levi | Heh. |
| 00:49.41 | levi | I want a fancy, quiet, efficient stainless steel one. |
| 00:49.50 | levi | That's mounted correctly. |
| 00:50.32 | elg | i'd settle for one that washes |
| 00:50.45 | levi | Also, granite countertops. |
| 00:51.03 | elg | but I am hopeful |
| 00:51.16 | elg | there was more than enough gunk in there to account for the bad washing |
| 00:51.39 | levi | Yeah... if it's actually heating up and spraying water, it will probably work when you're done cleaning. |
| 00:52.08 | levi | I've never heard of a dishwasher getting that bad. I wonder what it's been through. |
| 00:54.57 | elg | probably just stuff gathered over time. maybe stuff that doesn't grind put in the garbage disposal that refluxed back into the dishwasher |
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| 00:56.51 | findlay | the grey, gewy, stuff? |
| 00:58.14 | elg | yup |
| 00:58.14 | elg | like decaying portabello mushrooms in water |
| 00:58.14 | findlay | loaded with bacteria, probably |
| 00:58.14 | elg | but i don't think we've tried washing portabello mushrooms recently |
| 00:58.21 | elg | isn't everything? |
| 00:58.37 | findlay | unless it's too hostile of an environment |
| 00:58.53 | findlay | that's where the archea live :) |
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| 01:49.32 | nick125 | yay, I didn't break anything upgrading asterisk |
| 01:53.23 | jsmith | nick125: That's always good ;-) |
| 01:56.06 | nick125 | Yeah, I get kind of :( when things break. |
| 01:56.15 | nick125 | Especially when multiple things break at once. |
| 01:59.13 | nick125 | Like, for instance, having slapd, postfix, dovecot and lighttpd break at once is bad. |
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| 02:31.07 | nick125 | yay, the iwl3945 driver in 2.6.26_rc5 doesn't seem to have the slowdown issues I was having with 2.6.25 \o/ |
| 02:34.01 | jsmith | nick125: w00t! |
| 02:34.06 | jsmith | nick125: You're on a roll tonight! |
| 02:34.35 | jsmith | (on the other hand) is stuck in the slow lane behind some donkey-cart |
| 02:38.19 | nick125 | lol |
| 02:40.08 | jsmith | I swear... I shouldn't have to package up the PHP module for SQLite 3 |
| 02:40.18 | jsmith | You'd think someone would have done that by now |
| 02:40.37 | jsmith | shakes his head in disgust |
| 02:40.48 | nick125 | toggles the sqlite3 useflag on and off |
| 02:41.06 | jsmith | I know, I know... don't go there. |
| 02:41.54 | jsmith | I'm working on a s3kr3t project, and I need to be able to reproduce the same thing *every* time |
| 02:42.05 | nick125 | lol |
| 02:42.07 | jsmith | (and not depend on any outside repositories, etc.) |
| 02:42.13 | nick125 | ouch |
| 02:42.30 | jsmith | Good ol' Project Avocado |
| 02:42.41 | jsmith | nick125: You'll find out about it when it's done ;-) |
| 02:42.52 | nick125 | Is it neat? |
| 02:42.56 | nick125 | and cool? |
| 02:47.35 | jsmith | nick125: Well, you won't like it. But others in the world will hopefully find it refreshing, enlightening, and community-minded. |
| 02:50.49 | nick125 | Don't tell me you're making a trixbox clone. |
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| 04:19.48 | dmdavis | so, I need to get some software of ours running on RISC machines, so I need to buy one to develop on. any suggestions for an inexpensive one? looking on ebay, but not sure what to look for |
| 04:20.12 | dmdavis | I've searched google and wikipedia, but all I've come up with so far is that I think I want an HP 9000 |
| 04:25.07 | elg | which architecture exactly? |
| 04:25.12 | elg | there are several risc architectures |
| 04:26.24 | dmdavis | elg: well, I don't know that. AHHHHhhhhh.... |
| 04:26.47 | dmdavis | I'm not sure. I saw that Linux runs on RISC, and my program runs in Linux |
| 04:27.17 | dmdavis | I just need to get linux installed on a risc system so that I can make sure my program runs there, and then make a live CD that will boot on most (hopefully all) RISC systems |
| 04:27.30 | dmdavis | ones that run HP Unix |
| 04:27.46 | dmdavis | is that possible? do I need more specific information? |
| 04:30.17 | elg | linux runs on lots of architectures. if your code is portable, it will too (endianness being the most likely hangup, or problems with other Unices if you're not targeting linuxes) |
| 04:30.31 | elg | but one boot disk to run on many risc architectures, unlikely |
| 04:30.42 | elg | at least not without serious wizardry |
| 04:30.54 | dmdavis | OK |
| 04:31.17 | elg | hppa is the most common architecture for hpux workstations |
| 04:31.33 | elg | i had one of those once, it was pretty cool. and very heavy. built like a tank |
| 04:31.38 | elg | and used a lot of electricity :) |
| 04:31.41 | dmdavis | smiles |
| 04:31.44 | dmdavis | I bet |
| 04:31.58 | dmdavis | I've seen a couple hp 9000s on ebay, and they look massive |
| 04:32.20 | elg | parisc-linux.org |
| 04:32.33 | elg | i think mine was a 9000, but I don't remember for sure |
| 04:33.03 | elg | so in short, you need to find out if the machines you are hoping for are all the same architecture |
| 04:33.50 | dmdavis | OK, thanks |
| 04:33.59 | dmdavis | very good to know before I make the purchase |
| 04:34.35 | elg | getting an old hp workstation isn't so much a purchase as a DI treasure hunt |
| 04:35.06 | elg | or univ. surplus sale, which is where I got mine |
| 04:35.09 | dmdavis | :) excellent, sounds like fun |
| 04:35.27 | dmdavis | well, I'll look more tomorrow. it's time for bed now. (It's 12:30 here) |
| 04:35.45 | dmdavis | we're house hunting in Virginia for grad school this fall |
| 04:39.33 | elg | fun |
| 04:55.26 | levi | Oh my goodness, political policy has a moral dimension!? Why didn't anyone tell me? |
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| 05:24.15 | elg | know anything about mics? |
| 05:35.13 | levi | Not a lot. |
| 05:35.31 | levi | I can buy AKG mics at a steep discount, though. :) |
| 05:35.38 | levi | Not to mention mixers and stuff. |
| 05:39.40 | elg | my wife is "getting me" a mic for father's day |
| 05:39.51 | elg | ~ $50-$60 price range |
| 05:40.46 | elg | we'll probably go to guitar center and browse/ask salesmen, but I'm prepping by getting my head around the various variables |
| 05:42.18 | levi | Heh. Yeah, gifts aren't quite the same when you're buying them for yourself, are they? |
| 05:42.38 | elg | you're not allowed to get one at discount for me, probably |
| 05:42.41 | levi | My wife keeps asking me how much to sell suff at the yard sale for tomorrow, as if I have any idea. |
| 05:42.51 | elg | yeah. my wife is bad at gifts |
| 05:43.05 | levi | elg: Not unless I buy it a year in advance of when I sell it to you. |
| 05:43.07 | elg | she'll want to get one but then not want to actually get it |
| 05:43.18 | elg | i suppose you don't have a time machine. :) |
| 05:43.28 | levi | Nope, sorry. :) |
| 05:44.02 | levi | Some stuff I can buy at somewhat of a discount for friends, but there's not anything set up for the AKG stuff. |
| 05:44.36 | elg | i think i'm going to aim for the flattest frequency response I can get for that price, which might mean a condenser mic. the dynamics are more rugged they say, but do you think a condenser is closer to an egg or a laptop in how careful i would have to be with it? |
| 05:45.07 | elg | this looks tempting http://www.guitarcenter.com/Nady-SCM-900---CM-90-Studio-Microphone-Package-277523-i1127290.gc |
| 05:45.11 | levi | That's completely beyond my knowledge. :) |
| 05:46.07 | levi | elg: And even when it's a good gift, *you* paid for it. :) |
| 05:46.16 | elg | yup :) |
| 05:46.33 | levi | The whole thing is kind of silly. |
| 05:46.36 | elg | oh well, at least I get to influence what I get |
| 05:46.48 | levi | Yeah. |
| 05:46.55 | elg | when we were first married she bought me a christmas ornament |
| 05:47.23 | elg | i didn't balk at it, but she could tell it didn't do much for me |
| 05:47.50 | elg | but i think she feels like it's cheating to get me what I really want, since I'm so predictable :) |
| 05:49.37 | elg | so since i'm going to utah this summer after all, i get to go around recording various organs |
| 05:50.01 | elg | hopefully i can get an audience with the tabernacle and maybe madeline and conf center organs too |
| 05:50.08 | elg | along with all the byu organs |
| 05:51.13 | elg | hrm, i'd need a preamp with phantom power to run a condenser mic |
| 05:51.28 | levi | Are you recording for samples, or recording musical performances? |
| 05:51.43 | elg | performances |
| 05:52.02 | elg | of scales and musical pieces |
| 05:52.16 | elg | a scale for each stop |
| 05:52.23 | elg | then pieces with various stops pulled |
| 05:52.54 | levi | What're you doing this for? Just to hear what they sound like? |
| 05:54.11 | elg | my research |
| 05:54.27 | elg | my project is to identify organ stops in audio recordings |
| 05:55.01 | elg | if i can record the (many) stops at the tabernacle, I could use professional recordings of that organ, which would give me a lot more data with a lot less work |
| 05:55.40 | elg | otoh, each recording will probably have been processed differently, so i'll want some stuff that I recorded all with the same setup |
| 05:55.56 | levi | So, you'd play a piece, and your software would tell you which organ stops were in use in a given passage? |
| 05:56.00 | elg | yup |
| 05:56.11 | levi | I guess it would have to be organ-specific? |
| 05:56.58 | elg | yes, but i will also try a more general variant - where you can't name the stops specifically but can say it has a stop of this family and one of that family |
| 05:57.14 | levi | Cool. |
| 05:57.46 | elg | e.g. an 8' diapason usually sounds like an 8' diapason, although they may go by a variety of names (principal, diapason, or a variant of one of those in other languages) |
| 05:58.04 | levi | Not the least bit relevant to me, but it sounds like it'll take a lot of interesting work. |
| 05:59.03 | levi | So, I wonder how well I'll do on this stupid web programming midterm if I don't do any studying. |
| 05:59.18 | elg | yeah, it's kind of on the fringe. :) but it will feed back into more mainstream research on instrument recognition, which is quite an active field |
| 05:59.58 | elg | so relevant, highly unlikely to be scooped, and interesting. what more can you ask for? |
| 06:00.39 | levi | I dunno, but I'm sure I could think of something. ;) |
| 06:02.15 | levi | I like the low amount of time I have to spend on these online classes, but the lack of classroom time makes me really apathetic about them. |
| 06:02.15 | elg | yeah, preamps are expensive (relative to a $60 mic, which is fairly low-end), but this has promise http://www.guitarcenter.com/Blue-Snowflake-USB-Microphone-271267-i1391037.gc |
| 06:02.27 | elg | the preamp and power are all included |
| 06:03.32 | elg | heh. "Because The Snowflake is designed for the greatest ease of operation and setup, sample rate / word length are not user-definable. Sorry, geeks." |
| 06:03.34 | levi | I also get a discount at the Guitar Center here. |
| 06:06.36 | elg | does the same restriction apply? |
| 06:06.57 | levi | Hey, free AKG mic with a Lexicon MX300. |
| 06:07.11 | levi | Not that I'm aware of. |
| 06:07.45 | elg | what's a lexicon mx300? some kind of mixer? |
| 06:08.51 | levi | No, it's a reverb box or something like that. |
| 06:10.54 | levi | This one gets pretty good reviews: http://www.guitarcenter.com/AKG-Perception-100-Large-Diaphragm-Condenser-Microphone-103057980-i1126875.gc |
| 06:11.40 | elg | yeah that one looks nice |
| 06:11.51 | levi | Wow, you can spend a lot of money on a microphone. |
| 06:11.56 | elg | yeah, you can |
| 06:15.50 | levi | Hey, check this out: http://www.guitarcenter.com/M-Audio-MXL-990-991-Recording-Mic-Duo-and-M-Audio-AudioBuddy-Package-703626-i1173655.gc |
| 06:16.38 | elg | nice package deal |
| 06:16.48 | levi | Two mics and a preamp for $100. |
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| 06:18.56 | levi | Well, time for bed. |
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| 15:41.17 | sontek | :) |
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| 18:01.13 | nick125 | This is interesting. People visiting my site are nearly twice more likely to have Flash than supporting cookies. |
| 18:06.30 | nick125 | hmm |
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| 19:25.11 | Sargun | hi |
| 19:25.28 | Sargun | nick125, search engines? |
| 20:13.00 | elg | probably |
| 20:13.45 | elg | they may claim to support flash so that they can d/l and maybe index in some perverted way the flash content |
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| 20:26.52 | tyler___ | anyone going to the Ubuntu meeting tonight |
| 20:27.12 | nick125 | elg: Your thoughts scare me. |
| 20:41.32 | elg | good |
| 20:44.28 | Sargun | cp -r elg/brain/thoughts nick125/brain/ |
| 20:44.39 | Sargun | cp: cannot stat `elg/brain/thoughts' |
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| 21:46.11 | elg | heh. /me is sorting through my inbox, aka the pile of "stuff to look at" (i.e. mostly junk mail, stuff my wife gathered off the floor, etc.) |
| 21:46.25 | elg | here's the dtv converter coupon. who knows how long that's been in there |
| 21:46.28 | elg | hdhomerun ftw |
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| 23:02.22 | levi | elg: I think you have 90 days to use it or something. |
| 23:02.31 | elg | yeah, it expires jul 16 |
| 23:02.42 | levi | Better use it soon if you're going to. |
| 23:03.05 | elg | yup. researching now. can't decide whether to get the zenith or the sansonic |
| 23:03.45 | levi | Is there much of a difference? |
| 23:04.24 | elg | that's what I'm trying to decipher |
| 23:04.53 | levi | I figure I'll go to WalMart and pick up what they've got for cheap. |
| 23:06.45 | levi | So, I just helped a friend put up some crown molding. |
| 23:06.54 | levi | Got to try out my finishing nailer, too. |
| 23:07.08 | levi | It's a sweet piece of magnesium. :) |
| 23:10.11 | elg | acc. to their website, walmart has the rca and magnavox ones, for $50 |
| 23:11.08 | elg | best buy has a rebranded zenith for $60. the zenith is supposed to have better reception. if reception isn't an issue, save your $10 |
| 23:11.38 | elg | finally found a detailed review on the sansonic and zenith and I think the zenith is sounding better |
| 23:11.52 | elg | plus i can get it today and not order online :) |
| 23:20.11 | levi | I get pretty good reception, so I think I'll check Walmart next time I'm there. Last time, they were out of stock. |
| 23:20.27 | levi | The whole electronics section actually looked pretty empty. It was kind of disturbing. |
| 23:20.57 | elg | maybe because of father's day coming up and they didn't anticipate? |