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| 00:12.44 | findlay | goozbach: that sounds fun |
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| 01:17.03 | tensai | ~rlart |
| 01:17.03 | ibot | beats sargun_screen over the head with a microkernel |
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| 02:23.28 | rsimpkins | My little girl cracks me up. She said "Dad, we need to go to Danielle.com." I said "Okay. How do we get there? On the computer?" She said "No, in a spaceship! It is in cyberspace!" |
| 02:23.31 | rsimpkins | Doh! :) |
| 02:38.51 | levi | Heh. :) |
| 02:39.57 | levi | goozbach: I am also a crazy biker guy. |
| 02:40.21 | levi | Unfortunately I can't commute on my bike right now since I have to go to school after work. |
| 02:43.46 | levi | Also, it's nearly 20 miles to work on the shortest bikeable route, which includes a busy road with very little shoulder. |
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| 03:00.38 | levi | elg: I rode my bike to work occasionally when I lived about 10 miles away. |
| 03:01.18 | elg | yeah, I knew you were a crazy bicyclist already ;-) |
| 03:05.05 | levi | Haven't been very crazy with it lately. :( |
| 03:05.32 | levi | But during the summer, perhaps I'll be able to commute into work a couple of times a week. |
| 03:07.43 | levi | That'd be between 1 and 2 hours per direction, though. |
| 03:08.17 | levi | We'll see how that goes. :) |
| 03:09.24 | elg | huh, this is pretty cool |
| 03:09.25 | elg | http://whenisgood.net/ |
| 03:09.33 | elg | except that they used flash instead of say ajax |
| 03:19.04 | Supaplex | i rode my bicycle today :) |
| 03:19.20 | Supaplex | didn't even have to fix any flats |
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| 05:17.14 | findlay | ran up the mountainside again |
| 05:17.24 | findlay | keeps doing that |
| 05:17.32 | levi | findlay: What mountainside? |
| 05:17.39 | findlay | levi: the Y mountain |
| 05:17.48 | findlay | it's fun |
| 05:18.13 | levi | Did you go all the way to the Y? |
| 05:18.36 | findlay | run a couple of dozen yards up the trail after having ran/hiked for about 10 minutes and you will know the meaning of pain |
| 05:18.46 | findlay | levi: not yet |
| 05:19.02 | findlay | but I started from my apartment on 700 East |
| 05:42.58 | levi | I know that kind of pain pretty well, but for me it usually comes from mountain biking, or occasionally from steep hills on my road bike. |
| 05:43.35 | levi | Riding from the Linux Networx office up to the top of Suncrest was always challenging for me. |
| 05:45.08 | findlay | ooh, that does sound fun |
| 05:46.35 | findlay | I think I enjoy the sensation of transcending the pain both psychologically and physiologically. At that point running almost feels like flying |
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| 05:47.43 | sontek | you got it back! |
| 05:48.01 | findlay | thinks Supaplex was trying to run upside down |
| 05:48.12 | findlay | uÊop Çpısdn |
| 05:48.20 | Supaplex | (: |
| 05:48.41 | findlay | ~dict affine |
| 06:13.16 | levi | findlay: With bicycling, you get the added rush of going much faster than you do when running. |
| 06:14.16 | levi | findlay: And with mountain biking, there's often technical skill required in maneuvering the bike around/over obstacles, and the huge rush of going back downhill while trying to stay in control. :) |
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| 06:29.10 | Supaplex | control is for freaks |
| 07:39.37 | nix_chix0r | meep |
| 07:40.52 | sontek | ~hi nix_chix0r |
| 07:40.53 | ibot | Many greetings, nix_chix0r, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 07:41.05 | nix_chix0r | ha |
| 07:41.44 | nix_chix0r | i like beer too much |
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| 08:08.38 | Sargun | I need more cameras! |
| 08:21.01 | sontek | I need a mc.donalds in my kitchen |
| 08:21.09 | sontek | i'd be so fat if I knew how to hook |
| 08:21.14 | sontek | but instead I sit and starve in my bed |
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| 12:48.09 | elg | ~rlart |
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| 13:14.17 | encryptz | http://batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm |
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| 13:29.18 | elg | encryptz: interesting. it seems to contradict itself though |
| 13:29.42 | elg | bad: keeping the battery at 100% in heat (i.e. running a laptop on AC all the time) |
| 13:30.38 | elg | but if you run on battery all the time just so that you aren't keeping it at full charge, how much more quickly do you use up the number of cycles that your battery gives? |
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| 13:36.49 | dilvie | My new blog is almost ready for prime-time. |
| 13:36.51 | dilvie | http://dilvie.com/ |
| 13:38.13 | elg | you've got just under 12 hours until prime time |
| 13:42.43 | dilvie | yay |
| 13:43.12 | elg | of course if you miss this one, thre'll be another tomorrow |
| 13:44.06 | dilvie | elg: good to know... |
| 14:10.50 | sargun_screen | hehe |
| 14:10.59 | sargun_screen | damnit, my trainmate isn't riding today. |
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| 14:49.37 | tensai | ~language sargun_screen |
| 14:49.37 | ibot | ACTION grabs sargun_screen by the ear and washes sargun_screen's mouth out with soap |
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| 15:43.29 | mecworks | sontek: you need to also add the Mono repo to get gtk-sharp |
| 15:43.44 | sontek | mecworks: yeah, I got it lastnight =) |
| 15:43.48 | sontek | mecworks: thanks for fixing it! |
| 15:45.02 | mecworks | actually, I added it to Mono:Community but Wade asked me not to because it's already part of Mono which is referenced by Mono:Community. |
| 15:45.27 | brasto | what do you use to combine 2 wave files on a mac? |
| 15:45.47 | mecworks | I had just linked the package from Mono to Mono:Community but since it's referenced by Mono:Community, it is redundant. |
| 15:45.51 | brasto | i have audacity for mac, but I can't find an "append" option... |
| 15:45.51 | sontek | mecworks: I had both this whole time, did he just had it to moo yesterday? |
| 15:45.52 | sontek | mono* |
| 15:46.00 | mecworks | Yeah, he probably did. |
| 15:46.35 | mecworks | He's working on a new version and when he does that, he usually turns off publishing until he's done. |
| 15:46.44 | mecworks | so it was a temporary issue |
| 15:47.15 | mecworks | You might have grabbed the one that I had build while it was available. |
| 15:47.28 | sontek | yeah, It just bothered me because I had just installed and my tomboy notes wouldn't run until I got 0.10 with notebook support :P |
| 15:47.42 | mecworks | ah |
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| 16:00.04 | sjansen | I've solved health care! |
| 16:00.49 | sjansen | Background: Some people insist that universal govt. provided health care is the only solution. Others insist that govt. is too inefficient and that private industry is our only hope. |
| 16:01.07 | sjansen | Let's give everyone what they want. Outsource to the UK! |
| 16:03.06 | ^Migs^ | haha |
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| 16:12.05 | findlay | levi: there are some wicked bike trails on the hills below the Y |
| 16:12.57 | brasto | actually, findlay, if they are below the Y, they must be righteous. |
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| 16:13.10 | findlay | brasto: true |
| 16:13.13 | brasto | :) |
| 16:13.34 | levi | findlay: They're okay. |
| 16:14.00 | levi | OK, anyone recall who had a bunch of blog entries on ripping DVDs for a media center? |
| 16:16.45 | elg | beandog |
| 16:16.46 | elg | aka steve dibb |
| 16:16.51 | levi | Aha. |
| 16:17.08 | elg | and i know a thing or two about ripping and {trans,en}coding |
| 16:17.15 | elg | though not as much as beandog |
| 16:18.04 | levi | I don't think my coworker wants to transcode. His DVD jukebox just died, and he wants to switch to a hard drive-based system. |
| 16:18.49 | elg | of course, dvd ripping is a form of transcoding, and other concerns |
| 16:19.56 | levi | Well, sort of. |
| 16:20.32 | elg | the ripping-specific part is getting the mpeg2 stream off of the disc |
| 16:20.54 | elg | then you can keep it mpeg2 (in which case I guess there's no transcoding) or transcode it |
| 16:21.16 | levi | Right. No need to transcode it if you just play the mpeg2. |
| 16:22.11 | levi | I guess changing container formats could be considered transcoding. |
| 16:22.12 | elg | but if you're storing on a hard drive, you probably want to transcode to something compact |
| 16:22.23 | elg | or transcontaining ;-) |
| 16:24.50 | levi | elg: Only if you're cheap. 1Tb drives are only a couple hundred dollars these days. |
| 16:24.58 | elg | perhaps |
| 16:25.07 | elg | but if you can afford 1T drives, you can afford to fill them up |
| 16:25.19 | sjansen | Huh. Suddenly http://icanhascheezburger.com/ kills Firefox instantly. |
| 16:25.36 | elg | there's always a good reason to take advantage of order-of-magnitude savings in disk space |
| 16:25.51 | nick125_eee | sjansen: Works fine here.... |
| 16:25.55 | elg | unless of course the cpu is more costly in your situation |
| 16:26.18 | levi | elg: Transcoding would necessarily reduce quality as well. |
| 16:26.53 | elg | yes |
| 16:27.17 | elg | that's also part of the tradeoff. I forget it sometimes since my tv is the quality bottleneck :) |
| 16:28.00 | levi | I hate seeing MPEG artifacts. |
| 16:28.16 | elg | well, you don't have to lose that much quality |
| 16:28.29 | levi | Highly-compressed digital cable channels drove me batty. |
| 16:28.59 | elg | you can go from dvd-quality mpeg2 to dvd-quality h.264 with only a slight introduction of artifacts due to the fact that you're going from lossy to lossy |
| 16:29.12 | nick125_eee | Comcast HD is total crap. Here, it's almost as bad as watching SD. |
| 16:29.15 | elg | which is a whole other ballgame from going to not-dvd-quality $CODEC |
| 16:29.50 | levi | nick125_eee: I'm talking about Comcast SD channels that are compressed to ugly blockiness. |
| 16:29.59 | nick125_eee | levi: That too. |
| 16:35.58 | elg | so does he want to rip the dvd filesystem intact (filesystem DVDs) or rip out the title as an mpeg2? |
| 16:36.21 | elg | if you're not going to transcode I'd definitely do the former |
| 16:36.26 | elg | keep the menus, etc. |
| 16:36.53 | levi | Beats me. |
| 16:37.11 | levi | beandog seems to have some menu support in his Matroska files. |
| 16:37.28 | elg | the container of champions |
| 16:37.36 | nick125_eee | lol |
| 16:38.58 | levi | Yow, he wrote his dvd ripping script in PHP. |
| 16:39.02 | encryptz | ssh-keygen -d is not documented in the man page as generating an ssh DSA keypair, or am i missing something? |
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| 16:39.38 | xpot | hello all |
| 16:39.52 | encryptz | not found in my /usr/share/doc/openssh*/ dir either |
| 16:40.01 | levi | Hi, xpot. |
| 16:44.32 | elg | encryptz: i don't follow your question |
| 16:45.05 | encryptz | ssh-keygen -d will create a pair of DSA keys. but it's not doc'd that i can find |
| 16:45.13 | encryptz | i just want to make sure i'm not overlooking something |
| 16:45.46 | nick125_eee | I think you're supposed to use ssh-keygen -t dsa |
| 16:45.49 | encryptz | ssh-keygen -t dsa does the same that i can tell |
| 16:46.00 | elg | sounds like an undocumented backwards-compatibility |
| 16:46.09 | nick125_eee | probably |
| 16:46.17 | encryptz | i just want to make sure -d doesn't do anything i'm not expecting, i guess |
| 16:46.37 | elg | wouldn't matter if you didn't do -d ;-) |
| 16:46.45 | nick125_eee | I need to find a new gentoo mirror. osuosl has been slow as heck for the last week. |
| 16:51.22 | nick125_eee | Should I xen or not? Hmm....that is the question. |
| 16:52.41 | nick125_eee | Xen would allow me to do some fun stuff, but it would also require me to use older kernels, etc. |
| 16:54.18 | xpot | anyone here familiar with packet radio? |
| 16:54.26 | findlay | nick125_eee: `mirrorselect -D` FTW |
| 17:01.01 | elg | xpot: only superficialy |
| 17:01.19 | elg | as in superficially theoreteical familiarity |
| 17:01.38 | Tene | So, like, the antenna is a tube, right? |
| 17:01.51 | Tene | and you launch the packets out of the tube at high speed? |
| 17:02.01 | Tene | So it's like an internet-gun. |
| 17:07.10 | findlay | ~shoot Tene |
| 17:07.11 | ibot | ACTION shoots Tene in the foot with a glue gun! |
| 17:15.59 | sjansen | o/~ Work It Harder Make It Better ~/o |
| 17:15.59 | sjansen | o/~ Do It Faster, Makes Us stronger ~/o |
| 17:15.59 | sjansen | o/~ More Than Ever Hour After ~/o |
| 17:15.59 | sjansen | o/~ Our Work Is Never Over ~/o |
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| 17:16.14 | findlay | ~work |
| 17:16.15 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, work is the integral of the dot product of force and displacement |
| 17:16.42 | findlay | and I'm sure it holds in affine geometries |
| 17:16.54 | sjansen | encryptz: If you're that curious, just check the source. |
| 17:18.08 | findlay | I'm hungry |
| 17:18.19 | findlay | who wants to take me out to lunch? |
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| 17:26.56 | redbeard2 | goozbach: http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/details.php?id=1211 |
| 17:33.13 | goozbach | awesome |
| 17:36.31 | elg | ~lart goozbach |
| 17:36.31 | ibot | slaps goozbach around with a large trout |
| 17:36.46 | goozbach | awesome! |
| 17:36.48 | goozbach | trout |
| 17:37.13 | findlay | ~herring |
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| 17:47.38 | Jayce^ | http://pikpunk.com/viewer.php?file=2caog4675a1onlk0x2rj.jpg awesome |
| 17:51.18 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Call for Papers @ http://2008.utosc.com | Herring! |
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| 17:54.21 | bbeattie | Savage around? |
| 17:54.33 | fozzmoo | bbeattie: In #utos |
| 18:07.03 | sjansen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash <-- You know, the figure dash is kinda cool. |
| 18:08.54 | elg | kinda cool? how? |
| 18:09.38 | levi | It can't be cool, since you can't make it with TeX. |
| 18:09.41 | elg | how is it cool to have a dash that is essentially indistinguishable from hyphen-minus on the ascii side (where constant-width fonts abound) and en-dash on the typographical side |
| 18:12.03 | sjansen | Heh -> The Elements of Typographic Style recommends the more concise spaced en dash â like so â and argues that the length and visual magnitude of an em dash "belongs to the padded and corseted aesthetic of Victorian typography." |
| 18:13.54 | sjansen | Neither hyphen-minus nor en-dash are guaranteed to be the width of a number. It never ceases to amaze me what the Unicode authors decide is important. |
| 18:21.55 | elg | why do they argue against em dash? subjective superiority? |
| 18:22.17 | levi | Because it's big. |
| 18:22.25 | levi | Especially so when it's got spaces next to it. |
| 18:22.36 | levi | And even more so when things are full-justified. |
| 18:22.40 | elg | you aren't suppose to surround an em dash with spaces, are you? |
| 18:22.57 | levi | Depends on what style guide you're following. |
| 18:23.19 | levi | If you don't, it can make the spacing look irregular when you use full justification. |
| 18:23.37 | levi | You should just read the page. :) |
| 18:24.31 | elg | ah well then |
| 18:24.38 | elg | I'm always right no matter what I do |
| 18:24.44 | elg | because I'm following my own style guide |
| 18:27.35 | sjansen | En dashes on even days, em days on odd days. Spaces in the morning, no spaces in the afternoon. |
| 18:30.28 | elg | always uses sjansen-dashes |
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| 18:52.34 | encryptz | sjansen: i did check it out. i lost interest pretty quick digging through .c and .h files |
| 18:53.29 | elg | cscope and/or grep to the rescue |
| 18:54.20 | encryptz | elg: and what do i grep? 'd'? |
| 18:54.43 | encryptz | anything i attempt, gets exhausting looking through |
| 18:55.03 | elg | -d might work |
| 18:55.09 | elg | -d and printf perhaps |
| 18:55.23 | elg | well, not printf since it doesn't show in -h |
| 18:55.49 | elg | but if you can find where it sets the options (main.c?) then you can find the more-greppable symbol that -d changes |
| 18:58.24 | encryptz | well, at any event, it appears to be deprecated in favor of -t dsa, it's just not doc'd as such |
| 18:59.07 | elg | yay |
| 18:59.22 | elg | scores a copy of stevens' unix network programming for $5 |
| 19:01.12 | levi | Cool. :) |
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| 19:05.22 | eggyknap | elg: Where? |
| 19:05.45 | elg | used, some guy whose CS roommate moved in a hurry and told him to get rid of his books |
| 19:06.00 | eggyknap | mutters under his breath |
| 19:06.00 | eggyknap | :) |
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| 19:23.12 | encryptz | does fsck perform a defrag on the fs? i always assumed it had, now i'm being told otherwise |
| 19:26.06 | encryptz | i understand that linux makes more efficient use of the fs, and defragging is rarely necessary |
| 19:26.26 | encryptz | e2fsck -p seems to do it, i guess |
| 19:27.34 | findlay | yeah, isn't it amusing that NTFS still fragments? |
| 19:29.47 | encryptz | i've heard that ntfs is not a true journaled fs |
| 19:35.28 | eggyknap | findlay: it makes me giggle, FWIW |
| 19:36.07 | findlay | heh |
| 19:37.20 | levi | You can still get fragmentation in ext2 if your disk space gets tight. |
| 19:37.59 | wps | anyone know of a way to specify a port with an apache mod_rewrite? |
| 19:38.33 | kai4785 | wps: RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} !^80$ |
| 19:38.44 | wps | THANK YOU! |
| 19:38.44 | kai4785 | wps: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/misc/rewriteguide.html |
| 19:40.07 | wps | kai4785: that is a condition that checks the port |
| 19:40.19 | wps | how do you specify the port in the RewriteRule? |
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| 19:42.02 | wps | I am sure that redirecting to a full URL like this⦠|
| 19:42.09 | wps | http://example.com:8080/path/to/file |
| 19:42.11 | wps | would work |
| 19:42.15 | wps | but I don't want the full path |
| 19:42.16 | wps | just⦠|
| 19:42.24 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.25 | wps | but with the port |
| 19:44.08 | kai4785 | wps: I see. I don't know. |
| 19:44.17 | wps | k |
| 19:55.58 | findlay | encryptz: so, what do you think? |
| 20:12.42 | sjansen | encryptz: All that fsck does is make sure that metadata is sane, and attempt to repair any obvious insanity. No defrag. |
| 20:16.17 | sjansen | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ioD7gp41GYU |
| 20:24.51 | levi | Cool, silicondust just shipped my new power supply for my hdhomerun. |
| 20:25.08 | fozzmoo | yay |
| 20:33.52 | elg | levi: it's a race to the finish line. will your power supply get there before my hdhomerun gets here? |
| 20:38.20 | elg | the problem with having eclectic taste in music is that you generally dislike listening to what other people who have an eclectic taste in music listen to |
| 20:38.58 | fozzmoo | cranks some country. |
| 20:39.08 | fozzmoo | 's head explodes |
| 20:41.06 | elg | what would it be like to have a name like goto? all the computer scientists except linux kernel hackers would dismiss you out-of-hand |
| 20:41.31 | elg | otoh, you'd be considered harmful. that's probably a good thing. if you're a guy anyway |
| 21:01.55 | sjansen | screen++ |
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| 21:08.03 | Tene | yarly |
| 21:14.13 | elg | dreams up a nifty little app. imagine a histogram above a keiboard |
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| 21:15.10 | elg | like the spectrum visualizer thing in xmms/winamp/etc, but with more bins |
| 21:15.40 | elg | that would be fascinating to watch. like a player piano but yet completely unlike a player piano |
| 21:15.56 | elg | harmonics, etc... |
| 21:16.54 | elg | ~taunt findlay |
| 21:16.55 | ibot | ACTION taunts findlay a second time |
| 21:19.00 | findlay | yeah, yeah |
| 21:19.12 | findlay | whatever you say I won't become your coding minion |
| 21:19.12 | Tene | ~findlay elg |
| 21:19.13 | ibot | ACTION recreationally nmaps elg with abandon |
| 21:19.17 | findlay | because I'm too lazy |
| 21:19.42 | elg | heh |
| 21:19.46 | elg | you don't have to be my coding minion |
| 21:19.54 | elg | just be excited. maybe I'll write it in a month |
| 21:19.57 | elg | no make that probably |
| 21:20.03 | elg | but i'm booked for the next 4 weeks |
| 21:20.24 | findlay | elg: well I suppose you could create a dark-screened app with lots of such dials and histograms as a master control panel for a virtual organ |
| 21:20.26 | elg | it would be straightforward. |
| 21:21.37 | elg | just a big fft (actually since the x-axis is logarithmic I might use a technique I read about where you do several FFTs over part of the spectrum rather than the smallest slice all the way up) |
| 21:21.47 | elg | some graphics |
| 21:22.44 | Tene | Or you could get physical sliders and servos to strike the keys to try to maintain the histogram you're requesting with the sliders. |
| 21:23.09 | elg | heh, no you guys are getting carried away. it's visualization ;-) |
| 21:23.16 | elg | ~monkey findlay |
| 21:23.16 | ibot | ACTION flings poo at findlay |
| 21:23.35 | Tene | But it's more fun the other way around. |
| 21:23.38 | Tene | ~elg findlay |
| 21:23.38 | ibot | ACTION sandwichmaps findlay. |
| 21:23.56 | nick125 | is bored |
| 21:24.04 | Tene | ~bore findlay |
| 21:24.05 | ibot | "findlay, here we are in the sausage factory; the sausages rest on the smoking racks before being cured..." |
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| 21:24.22 | elg | ~no, elg $findlay is <reply>A møøse once bit my $findlay |
| 21:24.41 | Tene | ~elg findlay |
| 21:24.42 | ibot | ACTION sandwichmaps findlay. |
| 21:24.48 | elg | ~rlart |
| 21:24.48 | ibot | drops a humongous exploding nuke on Tadaka |
| 21:24.54 | Tene | ibot: forget elg (.*) |
| 21:24.54 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'elg (.*)' to forget, Tene |
| 21:25.39 | elg | ibot: elg $findlay is <reply>A møøse once bit my $findlay |
| 21:25.40 | ibot | ACTION sandwichmaps $findlay is <reply>A møøse once bit my $findlay. |
| 21:27.39 | findlay | ibot: forget cmd: elg (.*?) |
| 21:27.39 | ibot | findlay: i forgot cmd: elg (.*?) |
| 21:28.05 | elg | ~elg $findlay is <reply>A møøse once bit my $findlay |
| 21:28.06 | ibot | elg: i'm not going to learn illegal characters |
| 21:28.18 | findlay | heh |
| 21:28.19 | elg | illegal where? |
| 21:28.34 | elg | africa? |
| 21:30.43 | elg | ~elg $findlay is <action>straps $findlay to the underside of an organ pedalboard and gets down with some Bach. |
| 21:30.44 | ibot | elg: okay |
| 21:32.19 | elg | ~elg findlay |
| 21:32.19 | ibot | ACTION straps findlay to the underside of an organ pedalboard and gets down with some Bach. |
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| 21:53.15 | trip0 | help, monodevelop, your my only hope! |
| 21:53.39 | nick125 | trip0: ew |
| 21:54.16 | trip0 | nick125: you no likey? |
| 21:54.30 | nick125 | trip0: me no likey monodevelop |
| 21:54.53 | trip0 | me trying to likey |
| 21:55.21 | nick125 | me don't think it worth likey |
| 21:56.42 | trip0 | ouch |
| 21:56.56 | trip0 | what's your biggest complaint? |
| 21:58.02 | nick125 | My biggest complaint about monodevelop is the community and the bugginess. |
| 21:58.39 | *** topic/#utah by rsimpkins -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Call for Papers @ http://2008.utosc.com | PLUG needs new home. Contact rsimpkins. |
| 21:59.10 | elg | "Who says you can't go home?", "PLUG needs new home." |
| 22:07.56 | sontek | Omniture doesn't like us? |
| 22:08.11 | sontek | I've got a nice office up in salt lake we can use ;) |
| 22:08.24 | sontek | better drive for me anyways :) |
| 22:09.00 | trip0 | sontek: was it you that was the mono expert? |
| 22:09.27 | sontek | trip0: I'm an expert of nothing! |
| 22:09.36 | sontek | trip0: but I do lovez me some mono |
| 22:09.46 | trip0 | :P |
| 22:09.55 | sontek | trip0: what ya need help with? |
| 22:10.19 | trip0 | i thought I was running the latest, but apparently I needs me an update |
| 22:10.28 | sontek | 1.9 is latest |
| 22:10.46 | rsimpkins | sontek: Omniture? what. No, this is for the server. |
| 22:11.00 | trip0 | mono JIT 1.2.6 :( |
| 22:11.10 | *** topic/#utah by rsimpkins -> http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | UTOSC 2008 Call for Papers @ http://2008.utosc.com | PLUG server needs new home. Contact rsimpkins. |
| 22:11.20 | sontek | rsimpkins: oh, thats better :) |
| 22:12.05 | trip0 | sontek: you knew of a debian repo for mono right? |
| 22:12.10 | sontek | rsimpkins: Tier4 and Xmission have sponsored UTOS and Ubuntu Utah with space, we could get one of them to do it |
| 22:12.12 | rsimpkins | I tried to get Omniture to host it, but they don't have the man power to set up a secure DMZ just for PLUG (which is what it would take for them to feel comfortable with it). |
| 22:12.22 | sontek | trip0: yeah, meebey runs a backports repo for debian |
| 22:12.23 | rsimpkins | sontek: I'm sure we can, I don't know anyone there. Do you? |
| 22:12.29 | rsimpkins | What about Consonus? |
| 22:12.34 | rsimpkins | Do they not have any FOSS love? |
| 22:12.48 | sontek | I don't know anyone at consonus |
| 22:12.56 | sontek | Heartsbane has the hook ups at xmission though |
| 22:13.06 | elg | #xmlounge on irc.xmission.com would at least be able to give you an email address for a contact at xmission |
| 22:13.25 | rsimpkins | I'm not sure I have time to run it down. Let's see what the community comes up with. |
| 22:13.33 | sontek | Heartsbane is who got ubuntu utah free hosting at xmission |
| 22:13.54 | rsimpkins | It would be stellar if we can find someone in Utah county to host it. That, of course, would be ideal. |
| 22:14.11 | sontek | Jayce^ works at bluehost now, tell him to sneak it in =) |
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| 22:14.38 | sontek | trip0: http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 22:16.51 | trip0 | :) |
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| 22:19.20 | tensai | redbeard2: ping |
| 22:21.37 | redbeard2 | tensai: pong |
| 22:21.48 | tensai | redbeard2: I was thinking about your microwave cheesecake |
| 22:22.00 | elg | careful, thinking is dangerous |
| 22:22.03 | tensai | would it help to put a little container of water in with it? |
| 22:22.37 | tensai | elg: I know. I try to avoid it. hurts my head too much. |
| 22:22.48 | redbeard2 | tensai: maybe, but you would probably want to get it boiling before you added the cheesecake |
| 22:24.16 | tensai | it would have to be a big container with only a little water too, otherwise it would boil over |
| 22:25.47 | tensai | my thought was that it would help even out the cooking and keep the cheesecake from drying out |
| 22:26.14 | elg | you should have a big wide container and have the cheesecake float in the water |
| 22:26.30 | elg | might not help, but it'd be cool |
| 22:27.25 | redbeard2 | i wonder what the most microwave-safe container would be tho. probably pyrex. |
| 22:27.48 | elg | a tin pie plate for sure |
| 22:27.52 | tensai | aluminum |
| 22:27.59 | redbeard2 | cast iron? |
| 22:28.10 | elg | just put it on a cd coaster |
| 22:28.10 | tensai | best use all three to be safe |
| 22:32.27 | tensai | redbeard2: I decided to name this new server in your honor. forever more it shall be known as "cheesecake". |
| 22:32.49 | goozbach | don't forget the tinfoil ball to bounce the microwaves into the water |
| 22:34.01 | redbeard2 | i have a server (kind of) named after me? that's awesome! |
| 22:49.53 | nick125 | I wish there was a filesystem that could handle two or more devices working on the partition at once at the block layer (for something like AoE) |
| 22:50.48 | trip0 | Area of Effect? |
| 22:50.58 | elg | Ants over Ethernet |
| 22:51.01 | nick125 | ATA-over-Ethernet |
| 22:51.05 | Heartsbane | sontek: to be fair.... I informed encryptz and he did the leg work |
| 22:51.57 | nick125 | I wonder if GFS would do this..hm |
| 22:52.00 | sontek | Heartsbane: So encryptz is kind of like your intern?! ;) |
| 22:52.18 | encryptz | eh? |
| 22:52.33 | Heartsbane | I don't know |
| 22:55.07 | elg | wonders, if there were a program that could extract midi from audio recordings, would the original performer retain copyright on the extracted midi? |
| 22:55.47 | tensai | nick125: that's what GFS is supposed to be able to do |
| 22:56.03 | tensai | I never got it working |
| 22:57.06 | elg | gordon food service? |
| 22:58.03 | trip0 | sontek, so is it safe to say that if I develop something in monodevelop, it'll be crossplatform? |
| 22:59.39 | sontek | trip0: sort of |
| 23:00.06 | sontek | trip0: if you start writing in file locations like "/home/blah" rather than using generic stuff like Path.DirectorySeparatorChar and Path.Join |
| 23:00.12 | sontek | it wont be cross platform |
| 23:00.20 | Tene | trip0: all it takes is a single item like a hardcoded path to make it.. yeah, what sontek said. |
| 23:00.22 | sontek | because windows and linux use different structures |
| 23:00.24 | elg | but it might be legible |
| 23:00.55 | sontek | trip0: but if you follow good coding practices, then yeah, it'll work cross platform |
| 23:02.02 | Tene | just overload the string-concatenation operator to use path.join |
| 23:02.16 | fozzmoo | returns |
| 23:02.40 | sontek | trip0: this is a good document on the guidlines you need to follow http://www.mono-project.com/Guidelines:Application_Portability |
| 23:02.50 | trip0 | :) |
| 23:05.05 | trip0 | Could not load file or assembly 'System.ServiceModel' |
| 23:05.07 | trip0 | :( |
| 23:07.47 | sontek | Thats in the Olive branch |
| 23:08.01 | trip0 | is there anyway I can steal those assemblies from windows? |
| 23:08.03 | sontek | You have to pass something special to get 3.5 fefatures |
| 23:08.35 | trip0 | in the run perams? |
| 23:09.01 | sontek | when you compile it do -langversion:linq |
| 23:09.06 | trip0 | ahh, there is a "runtime version" |
| 23:09.15 | trip0 | but only 2.0 and 1.1 is in there |
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| 23:10.06 | trip0 | sontek: i'm in monodevelop |
| 23:10.38 | sontek | I don't know if monodevelop supports langversion in a released version |
| 23:10.41 | sontek | supports it in svn though |
| 23:10.53 | sontek | you could create a bash script and call it gmcs |
| 23:10.58 | trip0 | you got a link to the repo? |
| 23:11.16 | sontek | and then move gmcs to gmcs-real and call it with -langversion:linq |
| 23:11.30 | trip0 | okay, i'll do that |
| 23:11.38 | trip0 | will it effect any other compilations? |
| 23:12.32 | sontek | hmm, in 1.9 looks like langversion is deprecated and its on by default |
| 23:12.36 | sontek | what version yu running? |
| 23:13.04 | trip0 | the latest from the debian backport repo |
| 23:13.45 | trip0 | what distro you running sontek? |
| 23:14.01 | sontek | http://www.mono-project.com/WCF |
| 23:14.07 | sontek | That covers a lot of whats implemented |
| 23:14.13 | sontek | I run openSUSE 10.3 |
| 23:14.26 | sontek | type mono --version |
| 23:14.36 | findlay | plural --version |
| 23:15.04 | trip0 | cool |
| 23:15.28 | sontek | what version does backports have? |
| 23:15.33 | sontek | is it 1.9? or 1.2.6? |
| 23:15.55 | trip0 | Mono JIT compiler version 1.2.6 (tarball) |
| 23:16.04 | sontek | yeah, you are missing lots of good stuff |
| 23:16.05 | trip0 | i did install from the tarball first |
| 23:16.18 | trip0 | then i upgraded to the repo |
| 23:16.27 | trip0 | I'm not sure what this mono binary is actually from |
| 23:17.01 | trip0 | i may just build from source |
| 23:17.32 | sontek | building from source isn't bad |
| 23:17.48 | sontek | svn co svn://anonsvn.mono-project.com/source/trunk/mcs |
| 23:17.52 | sontek | svn co svn://anonsvn.mono-project.com/source/trunk/mono |
| 23:18.08 | sontek | apt-get buildep mono |
| 23:18.27 | sontek | ./autogen --prefix=/opt/mono && make && sudo make instal |
| 23:18.30 | sontek | fin! |
| 23:18.51 | trip0 | why /opt/mono? just to keep it separate? |
| 23:19.04 | sontek | yeah, you want to keep distro prefix and your own separate |
| 23:19.09 | sontek | or you'll run into fun issues |
| 23:19.16 | trip0 | :p |
| 23:19.28 | sontek | http://www.mono-project.com/Parallel_Mono_Environments |
| 23:19.36 | sontek | that covers running 2 versions of mono at the same time |
| 23:19.43 | sontek | the gotchas and everything |
| 23:21.06 | trip0 | sontek: you are a boon |
| 23:26.06 | synic | !dict boon |
| 23:26.16 | synic | bleh. |
| 23:26.19 | synic | ~dict boon |
| 23:26.39 | synic | ah. |
| 23:27.41 | trip0 | sontek: how do I build (or do I build) mcs ? |
| 23:27.51 | trip0 | synic: i used the "woody portion flax" definition |
| 23:29.16 | sontek | trip0: you build mono and it'll build mcs/gmcs |
| 23:29.36 | trip0 | ahh, okay, so I just need to put them in the same root? |
| 23:29.38 | findlay | imagine how much more you'll get when you build plural |
| 23:31.39 | trip0 | synic: has "synic" always been your name? |
| 23:31.45 | trip0 | err nick* |
| 23:32.34 | synic | since '98 |
| 23:32.40 | trip0 | ahh, okay |
| 23:32.51 | trip0 | not "cynic" right |
| 23:32.59 | synic | no. |
| 23:33.07 | trip0 | ah okay :p |
| 23:33.36 | trip0 | sontek: it had compile errors trying to build mcs, I'll have to try more tomorrow |
| 23:33.41 | trip0 | it's time to go home now :) |
| 23:33.45 | trip0 | thanks for the help |
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