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| 01:05.21 | ibot | greets fozzmoo with a wet sloppy kiss |
| 02:28.33 | goozbach | redbeard2: make it to GA yet? |
| 02:32.55 | goozbach | hi fozz |
| 02:33.48 | Sargun | hey oldies. |
| 02:33.53 | goozbach | oldie? |
| 02:34.15 | fozzmoo | Sargun's like... nearly half my age. |
| 02:34.59 | Sargun | The only advantage of my age |
| 02:34.59 | fozzmoo | or, as his governor would say, "Young and dumb." ;-) |
| 02:35.05 | Sargun | is that I can make other people feel old. |
| 02:37.19 | findlay-epc | hello |
| 02:38.35 | findlay-epc | and the openwrt docs don't seem to be very helpful |
| 02:40.08 | findlay-epc | maybe somebody here can help me |
| 02:40.27 | findlay-epc | the network configs look much like debian's |
| 02:41.05 | findlay-epc | I have a static IP, and I want the router to hand out addresses on a 192.168 network |
| 02:41.44 | findlay-epc | as I've configured it now, it's grabbing addresses from my ISP's address space |
| 02:57.23 | redbeard2 | goozbach: i am in georgia. i'm about to go to bed tho. look for me online tomorrow. |
| 03:47.14 | mrpull-lt | findlay-epc: sounds like you need to turn off dhcp relaying |
| 03:47.32 | mrpull-lt | but i've only used the dd-wrt releases |
| 03:47.44 | mrpull-lt | never openwrt |
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| 04:06.13 | Sargun | nick125, |
| 04:06.34 | nick125 | Sargun: sup? |
| 04:06.51 | Sargun | your phone is broken. |
| 04:07.03 | nick125 | Yeah.... |
| 04:07.06 | nick125 | something is up |
| 04:07.10 | nick125 | it just randomly answered it |
| 04:07.20 | Sargun | heh |
| 04:07.26 | nick125 | lemme do a soft reset real quick |
| 04:08.11 | nick125 | okay, it's back on |
| 04:14.15 | Sargun | download the SDK (Warning, large file, ~90MB) |
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| 04:58.02 | levi | Good evening. |
| 04:58.34 | Deanz | evenin' |
| 05:01.31 | Sargun | hi |
| 05:05.10 | levi | What are the haps? |
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| 05:25.53 | undertakingyou | Wow levi I guess nothing is happening. |
| 05:49.36 | findlay | levi: do you have any directions on my above mentioned problem? |
| 05:50.15 | findlay | man, typing on a real keyboard feels so capacious it's almost wasteful |
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| 06:05.29 | findlay | well, then. It's bedtime |
| 06:09.11 | fozzmoo | wow. |
| 06:09.13 | fozzmoo | http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28582_Outrage_of_the_Week-_Canadian_Publisher_Persecuted_for_Mindcrime&only |
| 06:09.15 | brac | [lgf: Outrage of the Week: Canadian Publisher Persecuted for Mindcrime] |
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| 07:30.07 | Sargun | What's a good graphing programming for Linux? |
| 07:35.26 | sontek | Sargun: like gnuplot? |
| 07:36.10 | Sargun | sontek, messing with that right now |
| 07:37.26 | Sargun | sontek, a bit complicated |
| 07:37.39 | Sargun | I want to put down lines or the line |
| 07:38.47 | sontek | Sargun: you could try graphviz |
| 07:38.55 | Sargun | sontek, uh, does graphviz do that? |
| 07:39.19 | sontek | Sargun: i'm sure you could hack something out of it :P |
| 07:39.32 | sontek | Sargun: i've only ever did it for workflow and stuff |
| 07:39.51 | Sargun | oh. |
| 07:40.01 | Sargun | graphviz is uhh weird |
| 07:41.04 | Sargun | graphviz is uh, neat though |
| 07:44.21 | Sargun | sontek, I just want to do mathematical operations on the lines/line segments |
| 07:57.56 | Sargun | sontek, I think I'm going to go with graphviz :-( |
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| 14:42.32 | ^Migs^ | http://www.3gplaza.com/estore/control/3gplaza/productdetails?id=70119&srccode=PW |
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| 15:07.21 | brac | recursive one. |
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| 15:36.04 | sargun_n810 | I think anthonny universal and tyler smith are the same person |
| 15:36.39 | sargun_n810 | I have a nasty habit of crossing paths with the weirdest people |
| 15:36.43 | sargun_n810 | On the web |
| 15:36.52 | sargun_n810 | Josh brady |
| 15:37.08 | sargun_n810 | Tyler smith (possibly brady) |
| 15:37.37 | sargun_n810 | Did you guys know that hillary's website is hosted |
| 15:37.54 | sargun_n810 | at a company which resells 3 rackspace servers |
| 15:38.12 | sargun_n810 | And the owner made anti-republican videos |
| 15:38.15 | sargun_n810 | Heheh |
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| 15:51.58 | sargun_n810 | I think someone had a failed suicide attempt... |
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| 16:02.58 | levi | Good morning. |
| 16:03.21 | sargun_n810 | Bye |
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| 16:27.07 | Supaplex | http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220188946461 |
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| 16:33.34 | tensai | Supaplex: what are you going to do with your winnings? |
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| 16:39.38 | dmdavis | http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/microserveces08 |
| 16:57.38 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I saw that earlier |
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| 17:35.37 | maquis | where do people like to get music? |
| 17:35.48 | maquis | i need some more music, because i'm getting tired of what i've got |
| 17:36.06 | levi | Well, Amazon.com has the largest selection of DRM-free MP3 files! |
| 17:36.09 | tensai | maquis: I hear amazon has a music store |
| 17:36.23 | maquis | i'm looking more for free streaming music |
| 17:36.24 | maquis | :) |
| 17:36.49 | levi | Oh, you're a cheapskate. Nevermind, then. Amazon.com is not for you. :P |
| 17:36.56 | maquis | :) |
| 17:37.21 | levi | You might try borrowing CDs from the library. |
| 17:37.30 | maquis | sure... but i'm at work right now |
| 17:37.55 | levi | Well, for online radio, I'm partial to Radio Paradise. |
| 17:37.59 | maquis | i'm kinda tired of trying to convince pandora to play music i like |
| 17:39.12 | maquis | last.fm and i didn't get along particularly well, either. apparently my taste in music is very difficult for a computer to predict |
| 17:39.17 | levi | I also like a couple of the somafm stations, but they're targeted at much narrower audiences. |
| 17:39.46 | maquis | soma? |
| 17:39.53 | maquis | like... in brave new world... |
| 17:40.04 | levi | Yeah, I imagine that's where the name came from. |
| 17:40.09 | levi | somafm.com |
| 17:40.49 | maquis | hmmm... radioparadise doesn't seem to be letting me connect... |
| 17:41.49 | levi | Took a while for it to let me connect, but it did eventually. |
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| 17:49.42 | levi | I tire of arguing with Bryan Sant. |
| 17:51.27 | maquis | levi: ah. it loaded |
| 17:51.33 | maquis | levi: what's the argument about? |
| 17:51.41 | maquis | i got off all the utah mailing lists... |
| 17:51.48 | maquis | actually, i accidentally dropped off of them |
| 17:52.51 | levi | Some professors who are also part of AdaCore wrote an article in a defense industry publication about how Java-centric curricula at schools is leaving students ill-prepared for systems and embedded programming. |
| 17:53.00 | maquis | ah |
| 17:53.11 | maquis | that got posted to a couple mailing lists here as well |
| 17:53.23 | levi | The Register then wrote an article that sensationalized the Java-bashing. |
| 17:53.43 | levi | And if you ever bash Java, Bryan Sant rides in on his white horse. |
| 17:53.50 | maquis | what is your opinion on the original article? i think that it's good to learn multiple languages (as much as i like one particular one) |
| 17:54.06 | levi | I think the original aritcle was very good. |
| 17:54.11 | maquis | i did find it interesting that they kept coming back to Ada over and over again |
| 17:54.59 | levi | maquis: You wouldn't have found it odd if they'd mentioned C over and over again. They're clearly Ada fans, so it's not surprising that they mention it a lot, but they're fair about it. |
| 17:55.18 | levi | And it was written for an audience that is full of Ada fans, too. |
| 17:55.30 | levi | Or Ada users, at least. |
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| 18:09.31 | maquis | levi: i just don't see Ada as much as a common language... but then again, i could just be wrong |
| 18:13.54 | RyanE | I completely agreed with the premise of the article, that is, that many current graduates are ill-prepared for non webdev. |
| 18:14.16 | RyanE | of course, I work in C++ making device drivers, so I may be a *little* on the fringe they're addressing. |
| 18:14.31 | ^Migs^ | http://sfw.fatkids.us/you-owe-me-a-cat.jpg |
| 18:36.35 | ^Migs^ | they bought me lunch here but they forgot my cookie |
| 18:36.39 | ^Migs^ | I'm pissed |
| 18:45.44 | maquis | i agree that most current grads aren't all that prepared for software development... |
| 18:46.12 | maquis | but i've actually also been unimpressed by a lot of industry candidates as well |
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| 18:55.52 | herlo | RyanE: I thought you sucked at programming :) |
| 18:56.07 | herlo | RyanE: oh wait, I mean php... |
| 18:56.49 | RyanE | I don't suck at PHP, I just don't care enough when I'm writing it to do more than a hack job. |
| 19:14.00 | tensai | I believe that's the official motto |
| 19:16.54 | Jayce^ | tensai++ |
| 19:18.32 | *** topic/#utah by tensai -> Off Topic and Beyond | http://plug.org/irc | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | PHP: for when you just don't care enough to do more than a hack job |
| 19:50.56 | ^Migs^ | hahaha, this is a funny list: http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt |
| 20:16.52 | rsimpkins | ^Migs^: Looks like it's just disallowing the /text/ versions to ensure you get linked to the real page. |
| 20:19.44 | ^Migs^ | that makes it less funny |
| 20:19.53 | ^Migs^ | why'd you go and spoil it like that? :) |
| 20:19.56 | levi | maquis: It's not a common language outside of the defense contract industry. But that's not an insignificant industry. |
| 20:20.39 | xbmodder_ | ^Migs^, I think now you are an official enemy of the state |
| 20:21.28 | ^Migs^ | strangely, even if I were that wouldn't affect me in any way whatsoever |
| 20:25.46 | xbmodder_ | lol |
| 20:31.12 | Sargun | home/xbmodder/music/Goo Goo Dolls - Better Days (Album Version).mp3 |
| 20:31.12 | Sargun | rsync: read errors mapping "/home/xbmodder/music/Goo Goo Dolls - Better Days (Album Version).mp3": Input/output error (5) |
| 20:31.12 | Sargun | WARNING: home/xbmodder/music/Goo Goo Dolls - Better Days (Album Version).mp3 failed verification -- update discarded (will try again). |
| 20:31.12 | Sargun | home/xbmodder/music/Goo Goo Dolls - Better Days (Album Version).mp3 |
| 20:31.13 | Sargun | rsync: read errors mapping "/home/xbmodder/music/Goo Goo Dolls - Better Days (Album Version).mp3": Input/output error (5) |
| 20:31.16 | Sargun | ERROR: home/xbmodder/music/Goo Goo Dolls - Better Days (Album Version).mp3 failed verification -- update discarded. |
| 20:31.19 | Sargun | Yes |
| 20:31.21 | Sargun | I know this. |
| 21:03.34 | ^Migs^ | is there such a thing as wireless LTSP? |
| 21:15.36 | emcnabb | herlo: how's class? |
| 21:16.17 | emcnabb | herlo, jsmith-away, goozbach thanks again for getting together this weekend - I had a really good time |
| 21:16.39 | rsimpkins | I'm too slow for the Internet today. |
| 21:16.44 | emcnabb | goozbach: and Lisa did too :-) |
| 21:19.52 | rsimpkins | Happy 50th to the smurfs. |
| 21:20.03 | rsimpkins | How old does that make them now - in smurf years? |
| 21:21.00 | Sargun | rsimpkins, Legal! |
| 21:21.08 | Sargun | I own it |
| 21:21.57 | rsimpkins | Sargun: Well, we need to send over the task force to sieze your computer to be sure... mmkay? |
| 21:22.22 | rsimpkins | Now please lay on the ground and wait for our lawyers to use C4 to blow a hole in your door. |
| 21:23.35 | goozbach | "assume the party accompaniment position" |
| 21:23.59 | goozbach | "you will be B-baked... and then there w-will be... cake" |
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| 21:36.39 | herlo | emcnabb: hi |
| 21:36.49 | emcnabb | herlo, hello |
| 21:36.55 | herlo | emcnabb: its good, just wrote a wikipage on FedoraFamily at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraFamily |
| 21:37.03 | emcnabb | I'm officially giving up irssi for now |
| 21:37.04 | herlo | emcnabb: thought you might like to read it... |
| 21:37.11 | emcnabb | herlo, cool! |
| 21:37.14 | herlo | emcnabb: use dircproxy and you don't have ot use it |
| 21:37.51 | emcnabb | well, I use xchat for work, so I'm sick of having two clients - I've never used dircproxy before |
| 21:48.00 | herlo | what you do is set up dircproxy on a server somewhere, then point x-chat (or whatever) at it and it will act as if you've not been offline |
| 21:48.11 | herlo | it will update all of your irc channels and chats for you from there... |
| 21:48.39 | emcnabb | herlo, nice |
| 21:48.40 | herlo | I have to say though that I've yet to get it working correctly, but I'm using irssi and its a bit more painful... |
| 21:48.59 | herlo | but jsmith-away got it working with x-chat in no time |
| 21:50.55 | RyanE | I still like screen+irssi, but I do miss the graphical chat client popping up new chat messages... |
| 21:51.15 | RyanE | I need bitlbee to do that for me or something like that... |
| 21:51.58 | emcnabb | RyanE, yeah, that's one of my main problems with screen+irssi |
| 21:52.28 | RyanE | I have an OSD system setup at home that would probably work with bitlbee or irssi, but at work, I miss a lot of chats until X minutes later. |
| 21:54.27 | herlo | bitlbee does that |
| 21:54.35 | herlo | with my irssi+notify script |
| 21:55.00 | RyanE | yeah, until I get something that'll solve the work issue as well, it's not worth playing with. |
| 21:55.01 | herlo | http://fedora-tutorials.com/2007/06/26/fnotify-revisited-irssi-has-a-message-for-you/ |
| 21:55.16 | RyanE | but maybe I'll give it a second look. |
| 21:55.18 | RyanE | offline |
| 21:55.23 | herlo | :) |
| 21:55.33 | RyanE | heh. Gotta love unexpected paste and go... |
| 21:55.50 | herlo | RyanE: if you prefer x-chat or pidgin, dircproxy will provide exactly that for you |
| 21:56.17 | herlo | I try to keep my urls under 80 chars, but I think I might have failed iwth that one |
| 21:56.46 | RyanE | I like irssi at home, would prefer pidgin at work, probably... |
| 21:57.14 | herlo | yeah |
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| 22:00.14 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
| 22:00.14 | ibot | sends a legion of lawyers after emcnabb's head |
| 22:00.34 | emcnabb | ~lart maquis |
| 22:00.34 | ibot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets maquis feel it |
| 22:00.49 | emcnabb | maquis, quit your whinin' |
| 22:01.12 | maquis | emcnabb: who said i was whining? |
| 22:01.29 | emcnabb | maquis, me |
| 22:01.35 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 22:01.38 | maquis | emcnabb: :) |
| 22:01.40 | maquis | how's it going? |
| 22:01.50 | emcnabb | pretty well |
| 22:02.07 | maquis | cool :) |
| 22:02.09 | findlay | ~lart findlay-epc |
| 22:02.09 | ibot | eats findlay-epc's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 22:03.46 | herlo | I'm famous: http://voxpopdesign.com/wordpress/?p=104 |
| 22:04.28 | findlay | ~fame herlo |
| 22:05.22 | herlo | findlay: why thank you |
| 22:11.22 | findlay | where's my jump drive? |
| 22:12.31 | findlay | s/d/s/ |
| 22:12.46 | findlay | s/ibot/clue/ |
| 22:39.39 | goozbach | who was it that worked at backcountry.com? |
| 22:40.37 | mrpull | unclejesse did in the past |
| 22:40.47 | herlo | findlay: did you get an eeep c |
| 22:40.48 | herlo | ? |
| 22:43.15 | goozbach | we're looking to try a vendor they aparently are using. I was hoping to find an inside opinion. |
| 22:44.03 | findlay | herlo: yup |
| 22:44.29 | synic | k, so what's the verdict on the eeep c? Cool? Not so cool? Should I get a cloudbook? |
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| 22:46.11 | findlay | what's a cloudbook? |
| 22:46.28 | synic | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6962839488.html |
| 22:46.30 | brac | ["Cloudbook" UMPC to run Googlish Linux] |
| 22:46.41 | findlay | I like it so far |
| 22:47.06 | herlo | findlay: nice |
| 22:47.18 | herlo | synic: I like the eeep c |
| 22:47.39 | herlo | I think she likes it |
| 22:47.48 | findlay | ah, so that's what they call it |
| 22:48.01 | findlay | synic: I don't think it really matters |
| 22:48.20 | synic | what doesn't matter? |
| 22:48.21 | findlay | the epc doesn't have a hard drive |
| 22:48.31 | synic | right |
| 22:48.33 | findlay | but that means it also uses less battery |
| 22:48.55 | synic | well, the cloudbook claims 5 hours |
| 22:49.00 | Supaplex | fungus: yo. |
| 22:49.01 | findlay | interesting |
| 22:49.03 | synic | isn't the eeep c only 3? |
| 22:49.41 | findlay | 3 what? |
| 22:49.48 | synic | hours |
| 22:50.02 | findlay | I'm not sure |
| 22:50.39 | pelaofeliz | specs say 2.5 for some models, 3-3.5 for the higher end |
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| 23:07.21 | RyanE | levi: thanks for elevating the level of the debate of Languages. Constantly. |
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| 23:36.48 | Tene | Anyone near orem willing to give me a ride in exchange for dinner? |
| 23:37.19 | dmdavis | Tene: ride where? |
| 23:38.15 | herlo | Tene: work? |
| 23:45.00 | Tene | dmdavis: from symantec at research way to 800 N, 1100 West and back |
| 23:46.05 | Tene | herlo: locked my keys in my car. I have a spare at my hotel, but I don't want to walk 6 miles with no dinner. |
| 23:46.28 | dmdavis | Tene: I can give you a ride, if you can wait till about 5 |
| 23:46.49 | tensai | apparently xbox live uses udp port 0. that's interesting |
| 23:47.22 | Tene | dmdavis: that would be great. |
| 23:47.22 | Supaplex | Tene: ouch :( |
| 23:47.55 | Supaplex | dinner is most liely cheaper than a lock-out call. |
| 23:48.03 | Supaplex | likely* |
| 23:48.36 | dmdavis | Tene: I won't be able to accept dinner though, since I'm going with out for dinner with my wife. She'd be ticked if I ate without her. :) |
| 23:49.04 | Supaplex | so ask for a raincheck :) |
| 23:49.13 | Supaplex | (not from the wife, duh) |
| 23:49.27 | dmdavis | Supaplex: good idea. :) Well, Tene? |
| 23:50.55 | Tene | dmdavis: dunno when I'll be in orem again |
| 23:51.07 | Tene | well, maybe later this week would be fine |
| 23:52.12 | dmdavis | Tene: I'm just kidding. no need for dinner. |
| 23:52.34 | herlo | Tene: ooh, that suxors |
| 23:53.00 | Supaplex | stupid paypal. :P We are unable to connect to the eBay site at this time. Please come back and confirm your eBay information at a later time. |
| 23:54.24 | Tene | dmdavis: awesome |
