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| 01:45.48 | tensai | bonez44: exim -Mrm 1I4IqM-0007zP-46 |
| 01:46.10 | tensai | then remove the offending address from the list |
| 02:28.24 | mheath | so |
| 02:28.37 | mheath | I'm watching that Marvel movie flick, ghostrider... |
| 02:28.49 | mheath | And they don't seem to have thought this through very clearly |
| 02:29.36 | mheath | Why does what is basically the devil's incarnate attack all evil? |
| 02:30.54 | mheath | And, a more important question: why is Nicholas Cage such a horrible actor? |
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| 02:43.55 | mheath | tristanbob_: ping |
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| 02:45.40 | tristanbob_ | mheath: pong |
| 02:46.37 | mheath | tristanbob_: I might be confusing you with someone else, but you work for WSU's IT department, right? |
| 02:46.51 | tristanbob_ | mheath: yes I do |
| 02:47.38 | mheath | tristanbob_: who would I talk to for help with their wildcat ID thing? Just applied at weber, trying to get setup to register for classes and such, and their wildcast ID signup crap isn't working correctly. |
| 02:47.49 | mheath | Redirects me to a page that always times out. |
| 02:48.29 | tristanbob_ | I would start with the helpdesk |
| 02:48.33 | tristanbob_ | 626-7777 |
| 02:48.53 | tristanbob_ | what page times out? |
| 02:49.18 | mheath | https://wildcatid.weber.edu/vo |
| 02:49.37 | mheath | I get through https://portalapps.weber.edu/getwcid/Default.aspx OK |
| 02:50.35 | tristanbob_ | you don't see the login page on that link you posted? |
| 02:50.43 | tristanbob_ | I just logged into it |
| 02:50.49 | mheath | But it gives me a temp password and a link to https://wildcatid.weber.edu/vo saying I have to change the password before logging in with it |
| 02:51.17 | tristanbob_ | I think the helpdesk is still there |
| 02:51.24 | tristanbob_ | I think till 9 or so |
| 02:51.37 | mheath | meh, I'll call Monday. Not in any hurry, and I'm watching a movie at the moment. |
| 02:52.48 | tristanbob_ | ok - good luck! I hope they can get you issue solved quickly |
| 02:53.06 | mheath | Heh, thanks. |
| 02:53.12 | tristanbob_ | np |
| 02:53.20 | mheath | GRRRRR! |
| 02:53.28 | mheath | ~lart the VA |
| 02:53.28 | ibot | shoves a crumpet down the VA's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 02:53.49 | mheath | ~lart DoD |
| 02:53.49 | ibot | stamps DoD on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 02:54.19 | mheath | ~lart USN |
| 02:54.19 | ibot | installs a bad bootloader on USN and turns USN into a brick |
| 02:59.32 | mheath | yah, get the issue resolved quickly |
| 02:59.40 | mheath | so i can go to some horrible college that I can barely afford |
| 03:00.01 | mheath | (even less so, now, considering they're refusing to give me any GI bill benefits, apparently) |
| 03:00.53 | mheath | Or, I could do one better - I could get a student loan, so I can be 23 and buried in even more debt than I have now! yah! |
| 03:08.47 | mheath | Heh, I'll shut up before I piss you all off. Another stupid mheath monologue. |
| 03:51.21 | findlay | sure, you're just hanging out here so you can bag yesterday |
| 03:54.55 | mheath | haha |
| 04:05.08 | findlay | ~!@#$%^&*()_+|}{:"?><,./;'[]\=- |
| 04:05.12 | findlay | how does that look? |
| 04:05.19 | findlay | looks fine in this font |
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| 04:31.54 | mheath | Evening, levi_home |
| 04:32.46 | findlay | Good evening, levi_home. |
| 04:33.39 | mheath | ~lart findlay |
| 04:33.39 | ibot | forces findlay to use Outlook Express |
| 04:34.08 | findlay | hey, what did I do? |
| 04:54.29 | findlay | ugh |
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| 05:40.43 | findlay | TimRiker: so I guess you don't do much with bzflag anymore? |
| 05:55.07 | TimRiker | findlay: not in a while, nope. google summer of code has some folks working on it at present. I need to get hacking on 2.1 and get a release out, but have a ton of things going on. |
| 05:59.14 | findlay | well, good luck then |
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| 09:00.15 | nick125- | does anyone here know if NID boxes are traceable? |
| 09:02.45 | nick125- | anyone? |
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| 15:29.48 | bonez44 | tensai, still around? |
| 15:30.05 | bonez44 | that exim command you posted...is that how one could remove a message that's not working? |
| 15:30.28 | bonez44 | I can email out, but not receive in.... what would prevent receipt of email? |
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| 16:34.53 | bonez44 | ethernet/debian3.1/network is up...yet...(here's my question) I can email out...I run exim4...and mutt as my mail client, but I can't get any email IN...nothing comes in... but was working fine yesterday |
| 16:52.15 | findlay | man, windows has ugly default fonts |
| 16:54.29 | mheath | bonez44: authentication problems would prevent receipt of email. |
| 16:55.36 | elg | firewalls, bad mx records, ... |
| 16:56.12 | bonez44 | mheath, well, which authentication problems and how do I figure out which? my email has worked fine for 4 months now with comcast? could it have been working, and they just now.. finally changed something, which now prevents incoming email? |
| 16:56.25 | bonez44 | I havent' set up any firewalls...nothing that way.. |
| 16:57.02 | mheath | uh, only thing I can think of is port blocking |
| 16:57.16 | mheath | UT Comcast usually has a good track record of never doing any port blocking |
| 16:57.38 | mheath | bonez44: what do your mail logs show? |
| 16:57.48 | mheath | Do they show any connection _attempts_ and then just failure? |
| 16:57.53 | mheath | Or do they show nothing at all? |
| 16:58.08 | bonez44 | it shows that email sends out JUST FINE....but it's not coming back in |
| 16:58.08 | herlo | s/one/own |
| 16:58.24 | mheath | bonez44: what do you mean, 'not coming back in'? |
| 16:58.29 | herlo | bonez44: pop3 or IMAP? |
| 16:58.29 | mheath | Does it show NOTHING about inbound e-mail? |
| 16:58.42 | mheath | Or is it just being blocked somehow, by the mail daemon?\ |
| 16:58.52 | bonez44 | I had one bad email address out of 277...sent out yesterday and it keeps coming back up in my /var/log/exim4/mainlog....showing errors..despite my having removed it with 'exim -Mrm emailidhere' |
| 16:59.05 | bonez44 | mheath, no incoming mail....that's what I mean by "not coming back in" |
| 16:59.08 | bonez44 | pop3 |
| 16:59.17 | bonez44 | nothing about inbound email |
| 16:59.23 | mheath | OK |
| 16:59.36 | mheath | Try sending yourself an e-mail from that machine |
| 16:59.49 | mheath | Locally |
| 17:00.12 | mheath | using real accounts, preferabbly, if you have some meta-email-account thing setup |
| 17:01.28 | mheath | bonez44: If that works (if it doesn't, somethings really messed up with your mail daemon) |
| 17:01.32 | mheath | Then, try this: |
| 17:01.40 | mheath | Fire up telnet (or equiv) on a remote machine |
| 17:01.48 | mheath | and try connecting to the SMTP server on that server |
| 17:02.06 | mheath | Make sure its at least basically responsiblve |
| 17:02.41 | mheath | Just give it an EHLO, see what it says |
| 17:02.53 | mheath | If THAT works, its most likely an authentication problem |
| 17:03.44 | mheath | bonez44: Don't let herlo get you confused. THe pop3 bit has little to do with what your problems are right now |
| 17:04.22 | mheath | Pop3 functionality is usually an addon daemon (well, some mail daemons contain it, but its really seperate) that allows remote machines to retrieve mail already 'delivered' to the appropriate account\ |
| 17:04.45 | mheath | YOu're having problems with SMTP, which is the transfer protocol used to convey mail before it gets delivered to the appropriate account |
| 17:13.40 | bonez44 | I am checking my domain registrar......first |
| 17:15.05 | mheath | tristanbob_: found out what was up with that webpage not working |
| 17:15.24 | mheath | Their server used SSL 2.0. IE 7 (which I was using) is configured by default to not allow SSL 2.0 |
| 17:18.45 | mheath | Sorry, a password like opul3n7$584 is TOO WEAK! It doesn't meet the upper case letter requirements!\ |
| 17:23.48 | herlo | ~lart mheath |
| 17:23.48 | ibot | slams mheath against a large cement Tux |
| 17:28.24 | mheath | herlo: eh? :) |
| 17:33.29 | herlo | mheath: did it hurt? |
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| 17:35.38 | mheath | herlo: well, it was a cement _Tux_ so that made it all better, really. |
| 17:39.53 | mheath | WTF? |
| 17:40.07 | mheath | How does the only academic advisor for a particular program just leave for months at a time? |
| 17:40.24 | mheath | Sorry, I'm gone until right before classes start! Have a great summer! |
| 17:40.35 | mheath | How am I supposed to get advice on what classes to register for, etc?" |
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| 17:47.36 | herlo | mheath: let me guess, UVSC? |
| 17:47.40 | herlo | mheath: compsci |
| 17:48.26 | nick125_ | Great. Compusa isn't even answering the phone anymore. |
| 17:49.20 | TheTiGuR | They probably just know its you |
| 17:49.30 | nick125_ | TheTiGuR: That figures. |
| 17:51.17 | herlo | nick125_: or the fact that 50% of theirs stores closing hasn't hinted them in on their real problem |
| 17:53.53 | nick125_ | herlo: I guess when they were shutting down stores, they forgot this one by accident :/ |
| 17:54.26 | herlo | nick125_: No, I think their problem stems from lack of realizing what the customer really wants |
| 17:54.53 | mheath | herlo: WSU CompSci |
| 17:55.19 | mheath | Seriously |
| 17:55.24 | mheath | They have a course catalog, but I'm nervous |
| 17:55.29 | mheath | I really HAVE to go register for classes |
| 17:55.36 | mheath | but this is my first time in college, I'm completely clueless, and nervous |
| 17:55.38 | herlo | mheath: ahh, UVSC has a counselor just like what you were decribiing... |
| 17:55.48 | mheath | and the stupid academic advisor isn't going to be back until mid august |
| 17:55.56 | herlo | sounds about right |
| 17:58.14 | nick125_ | herlo: Good point. |
| 17:58.25 | herlo | :) |
| 17:59.13 | nick125_ | I want my laptop repaired. I think they think I want them to not fix my laptop, run me around in circles for 1-2 weeks before even shipping it out. |
| 18:01.41 | TheTiGuR | Thats what I'd do |
| 18:02.27 | TheTiGuR | but then I like being evil from time to time |
| 18:02.45 | nick125_ | They've had my laptop a week and still haven't shipped it out |
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| 18:06.12 | findlay | herlo: don't even get me started about UVSC's computer 'engineering' program :-) |
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| 18:25.56 | herlo | findlay: haha, right. I've been there, I know... |
| 18:26.55 | nick125_ | Okay, I finally got them to pick up the phone. They said it should go out monday or tuesday. |
| 18:27.09 | mheath | this is so retarded |
| 18:27.24 | mheath | I'm looking at like the first two years of classes with dread |
| 18:27.28 | mheath | Its going to be so boring...grr.. |
| 18:28.21 | bonez44 | tail -f /var/log/exim4/mainlog I run this..and if I mail myself..I see the messages coming in..after going out...but mail to me from outside my office, do not even make it on the tail monitor.... |
| 18:28.48 | mheath | bonez44: telnet in to the SMTP server, see what happens |
| 18:29.10 | mheath | "This course follows the core body of knowledge specified by the ACM which provides students with a broad overview of topics they might encounter within the Computer Science curriculum. The course is taught at an introductory level and includes topics such as: history of computers, computer architecture, operating systems, world-wide web and HTML, programming with Java, database, software engineering, networking, and more. Co-requisite: Compute |
| 18:29.21 | mheath | I don't want to take classes like that. |
| 18:29.37 | mheath | Stupid introductory retarded crap....grr.. |
| 18:30.10 | nick125_ | mheath: That totally sucks :/ |
| 18:30.27 | mheath | nick125_: I lost my AP test transcripts |
| 18:30.33 | mheath | I took Computer Science AB exam |
| 18:30.41 | mheath | Which would jump a lot of the into requirements |
| 18:30.46 | bonez44 | mheath, a la 'telnet servernamehere.com 25 ???? |
| 18:30.57 | mheath | Can't find the transcripts, and can't find any info on getting new ones |
| 18:31.02 | mheath | bonez44: yep |
| 18:31.09 | mheath | Then EHLO |
| 18:31.11 | bonez44 | ok..that works... |
| 18:31.38 | bonez44 | EHLO? |
| 18:31.44 | mheath | Yeah |
| 18:32.01 | Supaplex | hi |
| 18:32.44 | bonez44 | scott@fyrenice:~$ telnet fyrenice.com 25 |
| 18:32.44 | bonez44 | Trying 127.0.0.1... |
| 18:32.44 | bonez44 | Connected to localhost. |
| 18:32.45 | bonez44 | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 18:32.45 | bonez44 | 220 fyrenice.com ESMTP Exim 4.63 Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:31:46 -0600 |
| 18:32.52 | bonez44 | that's what i get with telnetting to my server |
| 18:33.00 | bonez44 | but that's local..ok, need to do it remotely |
| 18:33.13 | mheath | nick125_: ooh, if I work heard, in a year, I can take a more advanced class like "Computer Architecture/Organization" |
| 18:33.16 | TheTiGuR | mheath: Doesn't the school district have record of your AP stuff? |
| 18:33.29 | mheath | nick125_: " |
| 18:33.36 | mheath | " |
| 18:33.37 | mheath | grr |
| 18:33.47 | bonez44 | hmmm |
| 18:34.06 | elg | mheath: I very much doubt you've taken anything like the freshman-level "computer architecture/organization" class in high school |
| 18:34.15 | elg | at least not the one at BYU |
| 18:34.37 | bonez44 | elg, sounds like something I need to take too |
| 18:34.51 | elg | i can see various freshman cs courses that you could test out of with AP |
| 18:35.04 | mheath | A fundamental course designed to explore the specific physical and functional characteristics of computer systems. Topics will include the architecture of the PC including BIOS, interrupts, addressing, memory management, types of disk drives (such as SCSI and EIDE), types of buses, video cards, modems, netowrk cards, hardware compatability issues, number representations, and/or gates and basic digital circuit concepts. The course also introduce |
| 18:35.42 | mheath | Thats all really basic, except for the logic gates and digital circuit concepts, which I'm familiar with |
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| 18:36.13 | elg | might be different, but at BYU that class entailed designing your own simple computer |
| 18:36.29 | mheath | elg: I've done that. |
| 18:36.32 | elg | i.e. make an ALU, etc. out of and/or/etc. gates |
| 18:36.43 | elg | and run microcode on it |
| 18:36.48 | mheath | Tinkered endlessly with my dads old 6800 board |
| 18:36.57 | elg | but did you do it in high school |
| 18:37.20 | mheath | elg: I'm not complaining that I should technically have credit. I'm saying that class is a waste of time |
| 18:37.28 | mheath | And everything up through like 2 years of college is a waste of time |
| 18:37.30 | elg | welcome to college |
| 18:37.55 | mheath | The freakin Dean of the CS dept. up at WSU called Solaris 9 "Unix 9". |
| 18:38.01 | mheath | grr |
| 18:38.27 | mheath | Good thing I'm getting introduced to "popular operating systems" like "Unix 9"! |
| 18:39.12 | mheath | elg: And I'm still not even sure what classes I should register for |
| 18:39.24 | mheath | Because the CS academic advisor is out of town from now until right before classes starrt |
| 18:43.20 | Supaplex | haha |
| 18:43.44 | Supaplex | challenge the class ;) |
| 18:44.09 | Supaplex | mheath: if you're goint to wsu, chances are you're close by |
| 18:44.31 | Supaplex | s/ by/ by me/ |
| 18:52.07 | mheath | Probably. Washington Terrace. |
| 18:56.37 | bonez44 | Evergreen Terrace?? |
| 18:56.48 | mheath | ..... |
| 18:57.15 | mheath | Hah, it's funny, see, because they...uh..both say..."terrace". |
| 19:01.23 | elg | do they have a list of classes and prerequisites? |
| 19:02.02 | elg | in the first two years it's generally pretty simple - you take classes that don't have prereqs and are prereqs of other classes |
| 19:11.24 | bonez44 | mheath, you fail to understand the concept of Education...all those "waste of time" classes really have value, the round out your knowledge...despite how wasteful you think they are... |
| 19:11.49 | bonez44 | same with general ed stuff.....it's what sets an educated person apart from an uneducated one..it's a broad understanding.... |
| 19:12.51 | TheTiGuR | Don't forget.... you don't know everything.... =-) |
| 19:13.14 | TheTiGuR | Even with what are likely redundant classes, you'll probably pick up a few things here and there |
| 19:16.58 | bonez44 | TheTiGuR, that's my point exactly.. |
| 19:18.33 | bonez44 | my wife used to just moan and bitch about those damnable GE classes..and I tried to remind her..they were important...but she like so many she revolted at the thought..of GE requirements |
| 19:19.11 | TheTiGuR | well... that doesn't make them less revolting... just tolerable... =-) |
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| 19:31.47 | bonez44 | what might this mean, from dmesg >> _M_str_putnext: queue overflow: dropping a message |
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| 20:12.49 | jlund | Is there a standard location for custom shell scripts, or a best practice? I have just been throwing them in /usr/bin and I found myself questioning whether or not that was appropriate today. |
| 20:14.15 | fozzmoo | /usr/local/bin |
| 20:14.27 | fozzmoo | if it's not something included with the distribution, /usr/local is a better place for it. |
| 20:14.49 | fozzmoo | If I'm the only one using the script, I'll put it in $HOME/bin |
| 20:15.42 | jlund | Thanks fozzmoo. I haven't even been visiting this channel very much and you've already been quite helpful on a number of occassions. |
| 20:16.12 | fozzmoo | We tend to spew a lot of stuff. Some of it may actually be helpful. :) |
| 20:17.43 | fozzmoo | You can read about the filesystem heirarchy standards at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html |
| 20:18.31 | fozzmoo | That is the community/industry recommendations for where things should be. |
| 20:18.31 | fozzmoo | The FHS actually recommends putting additional software in /opt |
| 20:18.31 | fozzmoo | So, /opt/bin |
| 20:18.36 | fozzmoo | But that hasn't been widely adopted. |
| 20:19.28 | jlund | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.28 | jlund | Far more than /opt/bin does |
| 20:19.29 | fozzmoo | Most source packages you download and compile have /usr/local set as their default base directory prefix |
| 20:19.50 | fozzmoo | I agree. :) |
| 20:21.25 | jlund | Yeah I remember that from my Apache compiles |
| 20:21.41 | jlund | So is anyone here finding themselves very tempted by the iPhone? |
| 20:21.55 | fozzmoo | I wrote up a thing in my blog about that a couple days ago. |
| 20:22.00 | elg | you mean tempted to steal a few and make $$PROFIT$$? |
| 20:22.16 | fozzmoo | Looks very impressive, but I came up with 3 or 4 reasons why I don't want one. |
| 20:22.32 | elg | i only need one reason |
| 20:22.41 | elg | way too expensive. but I am glad to see the iPhone exist |
| 20:22.51 | elg | it can only mean improvement in the dismal state of cell phone UIs |
| 20:22.56 | fozzmoo | jlund: I'm more excited about what Palm is going to do with the next gen of smartphones (which will run Linux) to compete with the iPhone. |
| 20:24.05 | jlund | Yeah that will be fun to watch |
| 20:24.08 | jlund | Where's your blog? |
| 20:24.14 | fozzmoo | http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/Fozzolog |
| 20:24.45 | Sargun | The US military uses Java to check their webmail |
| 20:24.54 | Sargun | https://webmail.us.army.mil/uwc/auth - nifty. |
| 20:24.59 | fozzmoo | jlund: If you haven't done it yet, check out http://www.openclue.org/ut |
| 20:25.10 | fozzmoo | Sargun: Hey. |
| 20:25.17 | Sargun | how bad of a move would it be |
| 20:25.22 | Sargun | if I got ahold of about |
| 20:25.26 | Sargun | 300 users |
| 20:25.34 | Sargun | passwords? |
| 20:25.40 | Sargun | and should I report it. |
| 20:25.52 | fozzmoo | Hmmm. How loyal are you to your country? :) |
| 20:26.05 | Sargun | haha |
| 20:26.15 | Sargun | I hate how our military is being controlled. |
| 20:26.20 | Sargun | Well, I mean |
| 20:26.22 | fozzmoo | controlled? |
| 20:26.24 | Sargun | treason isn't such a bad thing |
| 20:26.25 | Sargun | is it |
| 20:26.29 | Sargun | like commanded. |
| 20:26.37 | fozzmoo | That's what a military does. |
| 20:26.40 | fozzmoo | They're not autonomous. |
| 20:26.43 | fozzmoo | They're lead. |
| 20:26.51 | Sargun | I personally think we need to put 10x the amount of troops in there |
| 20:26.55 | fozzmoo | Me too. |
| 20:27.03 | Sargun | have stricter policies |
| 20:27.14 | Sargun | put UAVs up on the border |
| 20:27.19 | fozzmoo | uh huh. |
| 20:27.27 | Sargun | use area denial weapons on the borders. |
| 20:27.32 | fozzmoo | ARMED UAVs. :) |
| 20:27.37 | Sargun | mhmm. |
| 20:28.22 | fozzmoo | I don't think anything like those things is going to happen until there's another event like Sept. 11 |
| 20:28.57 | fozzmoo | It's WHEN not IF. |
| 20:29.18 | jlund | fozzmoo: The iPod is a GREAT player for OGG and FLAC if you flash it with Rockbox |
| 20:29.30 | fozzmoo | jlund: Yes. I know. :) |
| 20:29.36 | fozzmoo | I've had rockbox on my iAudio X5. |
| 20:30.04 | fozzmoo | But the X5 was cheaper than a comparable iPod, with more disk space. :) |
| 20:30.16 | jlund | I never looked at that one |
| 20:30.20 | Sargun | I mean, attacking the USA would be easy. |
| 20:30.22 | fozzmoo | I wonder if there will be a rockbox for iPhone. :) |
| 20:30.32 | Sargun | Getting weapons onto a plane (ones to disarm people) isn't hard. |
| 20:30.40 | jlund | I wanted something that could play OGG too but it needed to not feel like I was holding a mid-sized sedan in my hand. |
| 20:31.32 | Sargun | Just get a bit of petroleum-based pesticide into the fuel tank |
| 20:31.39 | Sargun | fly it over a populated city |
| 20:31.42 | Sargun | dump fuel |
| 20:31.48 | Sargun | and/or flow yourself up. |
| 20:31.57 | fozzmoo | jlund: The iAudio hardware has some of the highest-quality audio output. |
| 20:33.05 | fozzmoo | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855603835 |
| 20:33.28 | fozzmoo | Unfortunately, they don't have the trackpad-type navigation like the iPhone, Zen, or Zune. |
| 20:33.39 | fozzmoo | When that happens, they'll be perfect. |
| 20:33.43 | Sargun | I mean |
| 20:33.49 | Sargun | there is so much explosive crap |
| 20:33.53 | Sargun | on an airplane already |
| 20:34.03 | Sargun | for example: laptop batteroes |
| 20:34.07 | Sargun | batteries |
| 20:34.13 | fozzmoo | Sargun: Are you trying to get a visit from the secret service? :) |
| 20:34.15 | Sargun | haha |
| 20:34.50 | fozzmoo | I think you can probably get just about anything on an airplane if it's packaged in an embarrassing enough package. |
| 20:35.40 | fozzmoo | TSA people aren't going to want to look through something if they think it contains sex toys or feminine hygeine products or something. |
| 20:36.47 | fozzmoo | But if you pull out your big dildo on the plane and start whacking people with it, the American people will rise up and take you down. |
| 20:37.15 | fozzmoo | I'm just sayin. |
| 20:45.39 | Sargun | haha |
| 20:45.46 | Sargun | well |
| 20:45.54 | Sargun | how can a dildo be deadly |
| 20:46.04 | Sargun | Does anyone here make dildos? |
| 20:46.18 | Lakshmi | dildos are deadly? |
| 20:46.36 | Sargun | Does the plastic naturally stay stiff |
| 20:46.46 | Sargun | or are they build around a column of something? |
| 20:51.03 | Lakshmi | why dont u go buy one and check it out? |
| 20:51.13 | fozzmoo | Depends. |
| 20:51.30 | fozzmoo | Some of them are made of glass or acryllic polyurethane |
| 20:51.42 | fozzmoo | Others have a silicon gell core. |
| 20:51.57 | fozzmoo | ANd then there's the ones taht are like solid rubber. |
| 20:52.01 | fozzmoo | Like a dog chew toy. :) |
| 20:53.44 | fozzmoo | But I'd imagine you could take that silicone core out... and embed some kind of high-power laser device. |
| 20:54.15 | fozzmoo | "Everyone to the back of the cabin... or I'll blast you with... this thing!" |
| 20:57.19 | Lakshmi | haha |
| 20:57.26 | Lakshmi | id wanna see that happen |
| 21:27.13 | mheath | Hmm. Anyone here familiar with WSU's Computer Science department? =\ |
| 21:42.12 | fozzmoo | Just that's not really worthy of being called a university computer science department. |
| 21:42.17 | fozzmoo | More like a vocational training center. |
| 21:42.24 | fozzmoo | But that's just what I've been told. |
| 21:50.38 | Sargun | whoa |
| 21:50.51 | Sargun | my treo somehow went from 100% to 0% charge immediately |
| 21:51.54 | Lakshmi | sargun hey .. answer the aim question |
| 21:51.55 | Lakshmi | okease |
| 21:51.57 | Lakshmi | please |
| 21:59.37 | mheath | fozzmoo: You're right. =\ |
| 21:59.54 | nick125_ | Anyone here know if NID boxes are traceable? |
| 22:00.48 | Sargun | what do you mean traceable? |
| 22:02.03 | nick125_ | I mean, can they find out where it came from? |
| 22:02.11 | nick125_ | My friend had me take the one on his house off and he's mailing it back to qwest |
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| 22:07.47 | nick125_ | Let's just say he's a bit pissed at them |
| 22:08.55 | nick125_ | He had me wire nut the F1 pairs together |
| 22:09.21 | fozzmoo | NID? |
| 22:09.53 | nick125_ | network interface device, that box the telco puts on the side of the house |
| 22:11.57 | fozzmoo | Oh that. |
| 22:12.25 | fozzmoo | The newer ones usually do have barcodes on them. |
| 22:12.26 | fozzmoo | *shrugs* |
| 22:13.14 | nick125_ | fozzmoo: This one didn't as far as I know |
| 22:14.31 | nick125_ | I told him if he really wanted to risk getting charged by qwest, hook a car battery to the F1 pair |
| 22:15.15 | nick125_ | He didn't want to do that, of course :p |
| 22:18.02 | mheath | bah |
| 22:18.05 | mheath | This is retarded |
| 22:18.13 | mheath | I don't want to go to WSU |
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| 22:54.52 | brac | yottabytes had |
| 22:57.01 | findlay | ~onjoin findlay -chat about convert 1 yottabyte |
| 22:57.02 | ibot | findlay: ok |
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| 23:14.23 | bonez39 | xand, I am back home now...I ssh'ed to my office machine, where I was earlier...su'd to root to run 'tail -f /var/log/exim4/mainlog' then sent myself an email...and got the following: 2007-06-30 17:09:46 H=wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180] F=<sanchiro@gmail. com> rejected RCPT <scott@fyrenice.dynalias.com>: relay not permitted |
| 23:15.23 | bonez39 | sending myself an email from sanchiro@gmail.com to office....where addrress SHOULD be scott@fyrenice.com.... but I also have @fyrenice.dynalias.com set up... which allows me to ssh to 'fyrenice.dynalias.com' |
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| 23:18.00 | bonez39 | welcome Lakshmi |
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| 23:20.10 | ibot | findlay: ok |
| 23:21.25 | nick125_ | bonez39: I'm not sure on the specifics of exim, but, from the looks of that error, it looks like your exim server thinks that you are trying to relay through it. Maybe there is some domains setting that isn't setup correctly |
| 23:23.41 | bonez39 | ok |
| 23:24.08 | bonez39 | nick125_, would you mind emailing me...see if it 1) bounces or 2) reaches me? scott@fyrenice.com |
| 23:24.38 | nick125_ | done |
| 23:25.14 | bonez39 | ok..... |
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| 23:27.14 | nick125_ | Nothing back saying it bounched |
| 23:27.16 | nick125_ | *bounched |
| 23:27.21 | nick125_ | *bounced |
| 23:27.22 | nick125_ | blah |
| 23:27.29 | bonez39 | ok... |
| 23:27.46 | bonez39 | I got this from another user on here > bonez39: you need to tell exim that fyrenice.dynalias.com is a local domain USING "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" |
| 23:28.11 | bonez39 | I ran dpkg-configure....but doubt I added 'fyrenice.dynalias.com' in the correct screen |
| 23:28.25 | nick125_ | bonez39: But, you still want fyrenice.com to work, right? |
| 23:28.57 | bonez39 | I want the address to remain 'user@fyrenice.com' yeah, not have to insert the dynalias in it |
| 23:29.19 | bonez39 | I have this address on all my business cards, letterhead, correspondance... |
| 23:32.14 | nick125_ | Hmm. Let me see if I can find a exim config file really quick, hold on |
| 23:33.30 | bonez39 | My mail stopped working yesterday morning around 10:00 am...I know I must have at least 200 emails ...hitting my network, but they are not flowing into my inbox.... |
| 23:33.49 | nick125_ | bonez39: Can you pastebin your exim configurations? |
| 23:34.06 | bonez39 | sure... |
| 23:34.21 | nick125_ | I'm wondering if there is a way to set up two domains but delivering to local users |
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