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| 00:24.06 | levi_home | Any EE types or electronics guys around? |
| 00:24.22 | vontrapp | i made an ir receiver |
| 00:24.26 | vontrapp | that i have yet to get work |
| 00:25.21 | levi_home | Where did you get parts? |
| 00:25.46 | vontrapp | hans got them, utah valey electronic supply i think was the name |
| 00:30.14 | vontrapp | it's on state street by the provo cemetary |
| 00:30.54 | herlo | vontrapp: central utah electronics |
| 00:31.09 | vontrapp | yeah, that's it |
| 00:31.30 | levi_home | Hmm. That's not very nearby me. :) |
| 00:34.13 | ScytheBlade1 | http://selfdestruct.net/misc/geneve.jpg |
| 00:36.13 | vontrapp | levi_home: i guess you're not very near me? |
| 00:36.17 | vontrapp | ScytheBlade1: that's a cool picture |
| 00:36.30 | ScytheBlade1 | vontrapp, unless you're stuck in one of those cars ;) |
| 00:37.29 | levi_home | I'm in Sandy. |
| 00:37.56 | vontrapp | i see |
| 00:38.39 | vontrapp | just give me $100 and i'll pick it up for you and take it out there |
| 00:50.39 | maquis | this is either really well-done spam, or really poorly done advertising |
| 00:53.04 | levi_home | vontrapp: I'm not even sure exactly what I need yet. |
| 01:10.56 | levi_home | This stupid ethernet module has a 2mm pitch on its pin headers. |
| 01:36.18 | vontrapp | has anyone done anything in rails such that foo.example.com loads the rails app in the context of foo? (foo home page, foo data, etc) |
| 02:05.55 | maquis | ~logs |
| 02:05.57 | ibot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 02:12.34 | herlo | I need to search and replace for a new line and replace it with a "<br />" . I can't seem to get it to work with sed |
| 02:12.37 | herlo | help |
| 02:13.15 | maquis | herlo: what have you tried? |
| 02:14.06 | herlo | maquis: s|\n|\<br\ \/\>|g |
| 02:14.14 | herlo | and slight variants |
| 02:14.38 | herlo | I can easily search for it in gedit, but I would rather use a text tool designed for such occasions. |
| 02:16.34 | maquis | herlo: what about using vim |
| 02:16.37 | maquis | ? |
| 02:17.02 | herlo | maquis: since vim uses sed based searches, it would be the same wouldn't it? |
| 02:17.13 | maquis | herlo: not sure... let me check |
| 02:17.30 | herlo | well, the syntax for a vim search is as follows |
| 02:17.45 | herlo | :%s/search/replace/g with optional % and g |
| 02:17.57 | maquis | herlo: looks like it's working fine for me in vim |
| 02:18.09 | herlo | that exact line? |
| 02:18.24 | maquis | :%s/\n/\<br\>/g |
| 02:20.23 | herlo | huh |
| 02:20.44 | herlo | maquis, you know that's not well formed right? |
| 02:20.59 | maquis | herlo: what's not well-formed about it/ |
| 02:21.03 | maquis | i just know that it worked |
| 02:21.07 | ScytheBlade1 | <br /> |
| 02:21.21 | herlo | maquis: the <br> you did is missing the closing tag <br /> |
| 02:21.29 | herlo | but it html so its forgiving |
| 02:21.53 | maquis | herlo: then you can use :%S/\n/\<br \\\>/g |
| 02:22.00 | maquis | that just worked to do it the other way for me :) |
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| 02:22.08 | herlo | yeah, I am working on it now |
| 02:22.16 | maquis | :) |
| 02:22.21 | herlo | maquis: why did you use the capital S? |
| 02:22.31 | maquis | i mistyped it |
| 02:50.53 | findlay | hello |
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| 03:47.44 | tristanbob_ | anything interesting to look at? I am trying to kill some time |
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| 05:52.54 | *** topic/#utah is The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See openclue.org/ut/, sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com, utaug.org, ubuntu-utah.org |
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| 06:02.48 | xbmodder_newlapp | good boy |
| 06:03.01 | xbmodder_newlapp | er |
| 06:03.02 | xbmodder_newlapp | head |
| 06:10.08 | maquis | i got my mouse back |
| 06:10.11 | maquis | qemu stole it |
| 06:11.20 | findlay | ~steal the maquis mouse |
| 06:11.23 | ibot | ACTION grabs the maquis mouse and gives it to findlay |
| 06:11.41 | findlay | what? Don't give it to me, silly bot |
| 06:24.25 | xbmodder_newlapp | Qwest really needs to upgrade: http://scoreboard.keynote.com/scoreboard/Main.aspx?Metric=AvailNtwk |
| 06:27.55 | maquis | i'm installing windows inside qemu for a project for school |
| 06:28.09 | maquis | it's been 33 minutes away from finishing the install for the past 45 minutes |
| 06:31.57 | xbmodder_newlapp | maquis, my reccomendation: use vmware player |
| 06:34.30 | maquis | xbmodder_newlapp: i'm going to try that on my old laptop |
| 06:34.37 | maquis | but my new laptop is running freebsd |
| 06:36.24 | xbmodder_newlapp | hint: http://www.consolevision.com/members/dcgrendel/vmxform.html |
| 06:36.26 | brac | [VM Builder] |
| 06:37.54 | maquis | xbmodder_newlapp: that still requires that i be able to run vmplayer on the machine |
| 06:38.01 | maquis | which isn't going to work on my main machine |
| 06:39.18 | xbmodder_newlapp | eh? |
| 06:39.23 | xbmodder_newlapp | no root access? |
| 06:40.26 | maquis | no |
| 06:40.27 | maquis | it's freebsd |
| 06:40.31 | maquis | see what i said above |
| 06:42.10 | xbmodder_newlapp | oh |
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| 07:23.13 | mcnab | anyone know if www.sllug.org is having problems with their server or is it defunct? |
| 07:24.22 | maquis | mcnab: hi... i'm not getting it to load |
| 07:25.35 | maquis | http://panela.blog-city.com/missing_one_image.htm <-- lol |
| 07:27.02 | mcnab | hi maquis - are there people here associated with sllug? |
| 07:27.23 | maquis | mcnab: on occasion |
| 07:27.49 | maquis | i don't see mecworks around... and i don't know who else is associated with sllug... so i'm afraid i won't be much help |
| 07:29.13 | mcnab | thanks maquis for the info - i was able to get the cache from google - and the last date on the page was 7/13/06 and last meeting described was may 2006 |
| 07:29.59 | mcnab | is there a place or group where linux/openbsd people get together? |
| 07:30.22 | maquis | mcnab: place/group? |
| 07:30.32 | mcnab | coffee shop or hangout? |
| 07:30.45 | maquis | mcnab: utah has a number of very active lugs... |
| 07:30.52 | mcnab | i called the uofu and they said sllug |
| 07:31.09 | maquis | i thought i saw something about either sllug or oalug having a meeting soon |
| 07:31.19 | maquis | mcnab: what area are you living in? |
| 07:31.21 | mcnab | what is oalug? |
| 07:31.29 | maquis | ogden area linux users group |
| 07:31.32 | mcnab | i am in woods cross |
| 07:31.41 | maquis | i don't know where that is... |
| 07:31.55 | maquis | provo, salt lake, and ogden are the main areas i know of with linux groups |
| 07:32.09 | mcnab | a bit north of davis county - salt lake county lin |
| 07:32.11 | maquis | which of those is closest and i can get you to the right group |
| 07:32.11 | mcnab | line |
| 07:32.27 | mcnab | salt lake would be closest |
| 07:32.39 | maquis | mmk... i recall peregrine saying something about davis county, come to think of it... but he's not on at the moment :) |
| 07:32.44 | maquis | salt lake would be sllug |
| 07:33.19 | mcnab | i guess people are sleeping |
| 07:33.30 | maquis | oh... the sllug meeting was tonght, apparently |
| 07:33.46 | xbmodder_newlapp | heh |
| 07:33.49 | maquis | if you want some info about lugs in the area, i'd suggest checking out http://openclue.org/ut/ |
| 07:34.13 | maquis | it's just the utah open source planet, but it's a good way to see what types of things we have going on around here |
| 07:34.31 | maquis | mcnab: is your last name "mcnab"? |
| 07:34.35 | maquis | i just have to ask... |
| 07:34.39 | xbmodder_newlapp | or mcnabb? |
| 07:34.47 | maquis | because we've got a couple of mcnabbs in this channel rather regularly |
| 07:35.11 | xbmodder_newlapp | yeah, the mcnabb dynasty is recruiting others! |
| 07:35.56 | maquis | mcnab: other than that, i'd say just keep an eye out |
| 07:36.08 | maquis | sllug is pretty active, so i'm sure they'll get their website up and running again soon |
| 07:36.28 | maquis | if you're into bsd, you could also check out gubug.org, although as i understand it, they don't actually hold meetings... |
| 07:36.56 | mcnab | i see from the openclue site the meeting was wednesday night - :( no name not mcnab - but very closee |
| 07:37.11 | maquis | ah |
| 07:37.36 | mcnab | close |
| 07:37.49 | xbmodder_newlapp | last name |
| 07:38.23 | mcnab | i tried the site this afternoon - i would have made the meeting if the site was up - :( |
| 07:38.31 | maquis | yeah... sad |
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| 07:39.00 | mcnab | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.19 | maquis | bonez39: sup? |
| 07:39.42 | mcnab | drop the \ i couldn't get /s/b/lley/ to show up |
| 07:39.43 | bonez39 | maquis, just was updating some patient files...SOAP notes.... |
| 07:39.48 | maquis | ah |
| 07:39.51 | bonez39 | thought I'd drop in and see who was here |
| 07:40.03 | maquis | did you ever get that thing working that you were having troubles with the other day? |
| 07:40.24 | bonez39 | maquis, ..... which thing? I have so many irons in the fire..not sure which project it was |
| 07:40.32 | maquis | bonez39: me neither |
| 07:40.40 | maquis | i know there was something with gnucash... |
| 07:40.47 | maquis | but there was something more recent, i think |
| 07:40.51 | mcnab | thanks for your time maquis - i'll try to come back during daylight hours! |
| 07:40.54 | bonez39 | ah....sql-ledger |
| 07:41.00 | maquis | mcnab: good luck |
| 07:41.08 | maquis | bonez39: yeah... that sounds about right ;) |
| 07:41.09 | mcnab | see you |
| 07:41.12 | bonez39 | Hans? around? |
| 07:41.33 | maquis | bonez39: my guess is everyone's sleeping except you and i and xbmodder_newlapp |
| 07:41.46 | bonez39 | oh, still trying to figure sql-ledger out, but at least it's running..now just a matter of figuring out how to use it..it's a case of good software with LOUSY documentation..... |
| 07:41.47 | xbmodder_newlapp | bonez39 < always awake |
| 07:41.51 | xbmodder_newlapp | still? |
| 07:41.58 | bonez39 | ALWAYS AWAKE...sure |
| 07:42.05 | xbmodder_newlapp | I thought you would have given up on that by now |
| 07:45.13 | maquis | bonez39 doesn't give up easily |
| 07:45.48 | bonez39 | sql-ledger , I will never give up until I have it running well..and can show my wife that it's superior to whatever quickbooks online or whatever she and her friends run for her company |
| 07:49.15 | nick125_lappy | quickbooks online..................................................................................................eeeekkkkkkkkkk |
| 07:49.42 | bonez39 | nick125, I just discovered they have that now.... |
| 07:49.49 | bonez39 | $20 per month...... |
| 07:51.03 | maquis | ack |
| 07:51.30 | nick125_lappy | LOL @ sql-ledger: software is free, documentation is not |
| 07:51.39 | bonez39 | sql-ledger is free..just costs time to support and set it up.... |
| 07:51.58 | bonez39 | nick125, there ya go......it's all poorly documented..and not for a typical end user |
| 07:52.14 | nick125_lappy | "SQL-Ledger is distributed on a free and fee based model. The software is free, the documentation is not." |
| 07:52.42 | xbmodder_newlapp | nick125_lappy, heh |
| 07:52.45 | bonez39 | exactly |
| 07:52.48 | nick125_lappy | thats funny.. |
| 07:54.23 | bonez39 | they COULD run it like MySQL...where they have EXCELLENT documentation.....but it's a two-tierd pricing model...free or pay for commercial usage... |
| 07:54.26 | xbmodder_newlapp | nick125_lappy, is that real? |
| 07:54.30 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_newlapp: yup |
| 07:54.33 | xbmodder_newlapp | Lol |
| 07:54.40 | nick125_lappy | would I lie to you? |
| 07:54.46 | nick125_lappy | http://www.sql-ledger.org/cgi-bin/nav.pl?page=misc/documentation.html&title=Documentation |
| 07:54.47 | xbmodder_newlapp | bonez39, Where are you implementing SQL-ledgeer |
| 07:54.48 | brac | [SQL-Ledger Accounting] |
| 07:54.55 | xbmodder_newlapp | I thought you were being sarcastic |
| 07:54.57 | nick125_lappy | bonez39: well, its more like a support contract basis, right? |
| 07:55.09 | nick125_lappy | for mysql... |
| 07:55.39 | bonez39 | xbmodder, well, I have been using gnucash, but it's not web enabled..so i want to get sql-ledger set up with customers, products, inventory, etc.....to handle all the financials..and to print invoices..and all that...from web... |
| 07:55.53 | bonez39 | nick125, yeah.... that's what it is though too for sql-ledger..... |
| 07:55.59 | bonez39 | pay for the support and documentation |
| 07:56.10 | nick125_lappy | paying for documentation is retarded |
| 07:56.15 | nick125_lappy | paying for support is another thing |
| 07:56.43 | bonez39 | nick125, I can't agree more |
| 07:57.13 | nick125_lappy | if I wasn't lazy, I would write some accounting software in django |
| 07:57.22 | nick125_lappy | it would probably be like...100 lines of code :D |
| 07:57.31 | nick125_lappy | because django is awesome :P |
| 07:57.52 | bonez39 | django? first I have heard of this langauge |
| 07:58.30 | nick125_lappy | its not a language..its a web framework for python |
| 07:59.15 | xbmodder_newlapp | bonez39, would you pay for such an application? |
| 07:59.40 | bonez39 | xbmodder, I would pay for a financial application, certainly, if it met my needs...... |
| 07:59.50 | bonez39 | I'd pay for linux apps if they got the job done.... |
| 08:00.05 | bonez39 | results are what matter.....in the long run and short run too |
| 08:01.42 | maquis | yeah |
| 08:03.25 | xbmodder_newlapp | bonez39, why don't you have one developed |
| 08:03.27 | xbmodder_newlapp | by Atarack |
| 08:03.45 | bonez39 | no funds up front to fund the project |
| 08:03.52 | xbmodder_newlapp | thats not a problem |
| 08:04.12 | xbmodder_newlapp | we only require a small percentage, when we come up with the prototype |
| 08:04.58 | bonez39 | xbmodder, well, let's say I buy sql-ledger's documentation..it's $120 I think....for that and a month's support..... |
| 08:05.19 | bonez39 | I am considering that..if I can't get sql-ledger to do what I want...I might go the custom coding route.... |
| 08:05.54 | nick125_lappy | $120 for documentation is ridiculous |
| 08:06.33 | bonez39 | ridiculously cheap, for doc and support for a short time? |
| 08:06.40 | bonez39 | or ridiculously expensive? |
| 08:06.53 | nick125_lappy | ridiculous in general |
| 08:07.02 | bonez39 | I think they shoul dhave sql-ledger documented so taht one can set up a basic business and get things moving.... |
| 08:07.04 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_newlapp: we should write our own online accounting suite |
| 08:07.05 | xbmodder_newlapp | for such an unprofressional application ridiculous |
| 08:07.13 | bonez39 | ah |
| 08:07.41 | nick125_lappy | bonez39: I think they should charge for the support, but, not documentation |
| 08:07.48 | nick125_lappy | what good is the software without documentation? |
| 08:07.50 | bonez39 | agreed |
| 08:08.08 | xbmodder_newlapp | nick125_lappy, Quick books online |
| 08:08.32 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_newlapp: can I have someone from #init kick you somewhere? |
| 08:08.37 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 08:09.08 | nick125_lappy | you even _SAY_ quickbooks with me around, and i'll strangle you |
| 08:09.17 | nick125_lappy | with a cat-6 cable |
| 08:09.35 | bonez39 | nick125, quackbooks |
| 08:10.43 | nick125_lappy | bonez39: hey, I want to send you a gift, can you PM me your address? |
| 08:10.58 | bonez39 | yeah... |
| 08:11.14 | nick125_lappy | pm nick125_lappy |
| 08:11.30 | nick125_lappy | then, tell me when you'll be home, etc |
| 08:11.52 | bonez39 | when I'll be home? |
| 08:12.13 | nick125_lappy | yeah, like, what time you get home, etc |
| 08:12.16 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 08:12.27 | maquis | it is *so* past my bedtime |
| 08:12.29 | maquis | gnight all |
| 08:12.34 | nick125_lappy | maquis: night |
| 08:12.35 | bonez39 | night erin |
| 08:12.38 | xbmodder_newlapp | night |
| 08:12.52 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_newlapp: hey, know of any good travel sites? |
| 08:13.05 | xbmodder_newlapp | um |
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| 08:50.00 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_newlapp: we should write our own accounting suite in django.. |
| 08:50.56 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 08:51.08 | nick125_lappy | we should |
| 08:51.17 | nick125_lappy | call it djangobooks |
| 08:51.18 | nick125_lappy | :P |
| 08:56.26 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 08:57.50 | nick125_lappy | djangobooks would be one of the best online accounting services available |
| 08:59.04 | nick125_lappy | open SOAP, XML-RPC, and HTTP standards |
| 08:59.20 | nick125_lappy | no ActiveX, etc |
| 09:00.05 | xbmodder_newlapp | Where would you buy SSL certs |
| 09:00.18 | xbmodder_newlapp | it'd have to be like 100 SSL certs for each site |
| 09:00.25 | nick125_lappy | godaddy sells them.. |
| 09:00.27 | xbmodder_newlapp | and compatiblities with all these stupid banks |
| 09:00.37 | nick125_lappy | yeah.. |
| 09:01.13 | xbmodder_newlapp | >and compatiblities with all these stupid banks< |
| 09:01.40 | nick125_lappy | we would make $$ though:P |
| 09:03.46 | nick125_lappy | or make it opensource and offer hosted and support |
| 09:04.08 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 09:05.49 | nick125_lappy | then people will make modules for the banks |
| 09:11.34 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 09:11.36 | xbmodder_newlapp | no |
| 09:11.50 | xbmodder_newlapp | dude, getting access to those bank APIs |
| 09:12.10 | xbmodder_newlapp | is like installing windows on qemu |
| 09:12.19 | xbmodder_newlapp | on a 386 |
| 09:12.30 | nick125_lappy | then we open our own bank |
| 09:12.31 | xbmodder_newlapp | and this 386 is emulated in virtual PC |
| 09:12.39 | nick125_lappy | called openbank, USA |
| 09:12.39 | xbmodder_newlapp | which is being emulated on PearPC |
| 09:12.58 | xbmodder_newlapp | and thats being run on Linspire |
| 09:13.06 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 09:13.13 | xbmodder_newlapp | thats being run on a Pentium-1 |
| 09:13.56 | nick125_lappy | linspire is compiled for i686 |
| 09:14.02 | nick125_lappy | IIRC |
| 09:14.17 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 09:14.23 | xbmodder_newlapp | exactly the problem |
| 09:14.50 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_newlapp: trademark the term "OpenBank, USA" |
| 09:15.10 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 09:15.30 | nick125_lappy | get that incorporated, and get the paperwork started on becoming a finanical institution |
| 09:15.33 | nick125_lappy | :D |
| 09:17.55 | xbmodder_newlapp | i hate paperwork -_- |
| 09:18.58 | nick125_lappy | paperwork is gonna be as close as you'll get to getting a girlfriend, so, ya better start liking it |
| 09:25.32 | nick125_lappy | now now, don't cry.. |
| 09:26.09 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 09:26.20 | xbmodder_newlapp | paperwork is like a women? |
| 09:26.29 | xbmodder_newlapp | I don't understand that |
| 09:26.40 | nick125_lappy | both are a pain in the *** |
| 09:26.45 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 09:27.16 | nick125_lappy | ;p; |
| 09:27.17 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 09:31.21 | nick125_lappy | digg sickens me |
| 09:31.23 | nick125_lappy | "Canonical's Ubuntu 6.06 LTS is an excellent Linux-based operating system" |
| 09:43.03 | nick125_lappy | mmm |
| 09:43.08 | nick125_lappy | I need to try freeswitch some day |
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| 12:47.57 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 12:55.37 | sjansen | Somebody needs to re-write rlart so it always picks emcnabb. |
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| 13:00.21 | redbeard1 | maquis: ping |
| 13:11.42 | goozbach | morning |
| 13:11.48 | goozbach | morning - good |
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| 13:17.55 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 13:18.04 | emcnabb | nice |
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| 13:55.21 | sjansen | rass a frassin' floopty hibbit |
| 13:56.14 | sjansen | I really hate being asked "Do people really use Q in the real world | for Q = what I just taught them." |
| 13:56.20 | sjansen | Yes, yes they really do! |
| 13:56.33 | sjansen | And I've even modified my lecture style to list some example! |
| 14:00.05 | goozbach | you mean that people really use Vim in the real world? |
| 14:00.09 | goozbach | and apache? |
| 14:00.11 | goozbach | and squid? |
| 14:00.18 | goozbach | and LINUX!? |
| 14:00.24 | goozbach | *gasp* |
| 14:03.46 | sjansen | No, no they don't. I'm just wasting our time teaching it to them because I want their money. |
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| 14:05.57 | sjansen | Heck, I even include points in the lecture when I tell students "If you need to take a nap, here's the point where you won't miss much." |
| 14:06.07 | sjansen | Like when we talk about NIS. |
| 14:07.42 | sjansen | ~teach goozbach |
| 14:09.40 | sjansen | "There's always someone who will comment that Fedora is just Red Hat's beta test for Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). It's not true, and I want no one to have cause to say that ever again." -- http://trends.newsforge.com/trends/06/07/11/1431207.shtml?tid=138&tid=2 |
| 14:09.58 | sjansen | Huh, you mean it's not? 'Cause using it sure does feel that way. |
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| 14:31.52 | elg | ~lart sjansen |
| 14:32.05 | elg | sjansen: do people really use RHEL in real life? |
| 14:33.15 | nick125_lappy | elg: its sad.... |
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| 15:06.41 | goozbach | ok the greatest thing to happen this month: |
| 15:06.45 | goozbach | the top search string to get to my personal blog is: "gorgeous women" |
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| 15:09.10 | jsmith | sjansen: Strange... how can they say it's not a testbed for features before they put them into RHEL? |
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| 15:49.37 | levi | Good morning. |
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| 15:59.22 | levi | Whatcha grumbling about? |
| 15:59.55 | maquis | the difficulty of opening eyes and sitting up |
| 16:05.56 | rsimpkins | Sometimes i wish I had trasparent eyelids so I could sit there with my eyes closed and no one would know. :) |
| 16:08.25 | levi | That would remove the pleasant darkness that comes with closing the eyes. |
| 16:09.23 | maquis | wow |
| 16:09.35 | maquis | i've had windows in qemu running for like 2 minutes, and i think i've crashed it |
| 16:11.28 | macnewbold | it's emulating Windows, right? |
| 16:11.34 | macnewbold | it sounds like it is doing a pretty good job... |
| 16:11.36 | macnewbold | :-D |
| 16:11.39 | sjansen | jsmith: I don't think it's the test bed thing he minds, it's the word beta. The implication that Fedora isn't fully baked. |
| 16:11.58 | sjansen | As a Fedora user and lover, frankly I think that's a fair assesment. Fedora is rarely fully baked. |
| 16:12.15 | macnewbold | rsimpkins: a convincing eye painted on the outside of the eyelid can serve a simlar function, as can sunglasses :) |
| 16:13.23 | jsmith | sjansen: As a long-time Fedora user, I agree w/ you. |
| 16:24.22 | mrpull | maquis: XP SP2? |
| 16:25.04 | mrpull | http://tinyurl.com/5bobl |
| 16:25.17 | maquis | mrpull: cool... thanks |
| 16:25.31 | maquis | mrpull: do i have to pass windows genuine disadvantage to get there? |
| 16:25.33 | mrpull | windows update isn't a bad place to start too :-/ |
| 16:25.54 | maquis | runnin in qemu makes me fail the disadvantage thing, meaning that windows update won't give it to me |
| 16:25.57 | mrpull | i don't think so... but why use XP if it isn't |
| 16:26.33 | mrpull | vmware server might be a better option |
| 16:26.38 | mrpull | it's free and fast |
| 16:26.45 | maquis | mrpull: yeah... but it doesn't run on freebsd |
| 16:27.00 | maquis | so for the moment, i'm stuck wit hqemu |
| 16:27.27 | rsimpkins | General Question: What do you do for personal hosting? Box at home? VDS some place? Dedicated server? Free through work? Etc. |
| 16:27.47 | maquis | i'm using neverblock.com |
| 16:29.06 | rsimpkins | That seems kinda pricy. Am I reading it right? |
| 16:29.24 | mrpull | rsimpkins: don't you have roots in VPS's? |
| 16:29.29 | maquis | rsimpkins: ?? 15/month? |
| 16:29.32 | maquis | it's better than linode |
| 16:29.44 | rsimpkins | mrpull: Yeah. I am currently hosted on Xen. |
| 16:30.55 | sjansen | rsimpkins: I use linode.com, eventually I'll probably be moving to unixshell.com |
| 16:32.05 | rsimpkins | So it looks like VDSs all around then? |
| 16:32.34 | rsimpkins | I would have thought we would have had some co-lo. |
| 16:33.13 | sjansen | You haven't waited long enough for more answers. |
| 16:33.17 | rsimpkins | I'd love to build one of those 'hacker lounges' in the SLC or Orem area were geeks can pay a really low price to stack a beige box in the corner. |
| 16:33.47 | rsimpkins | Marc needs to know. |
| 16:33.51 | rsimpkins | It is hosted at USI. |
| 16:33.57 | maquis | rsimpkins: i don't see him around, though |
| 16:33.57 | rsimpkins | At least, it used to be. |
| 16:34.57 | sjansen | Mecworks rarely drops into #utah. |
| 16:35.03 | sjansen | You might try pinging him over IM. |
| 16:35.30 | maquis | sjansen: can you give me some details in msg for how to contact him? |
| 16:36.37 | sjansen | I'm going to decline because I've gotten the impression he tends to keep that info private. |
| 16:36.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 16:36.55 | ScytheBlade1 | http://qstuff.blogspot.com/2006/07/lessons-from-morning-meeting.html |
| 16:36.55 | maquis | sjansen: then can you ping him for me? |
| 16:36.56 | brac | [Q & Stuff: & Lessons from the Morning Meeting] |
| 16:38.28 | rsimpkins | I'm pretty sure Sammy at USI is only going to listen to a sllug officer. |
| 16:39.13 | sjansen | I'm pretty sure maquis can do a decent Mecworks impression. ;-) |
| 16:39.44 | rsimpkins | I see that usicomputer.com is up, and DNS is up, and they are all hosted right next to sllug's box. |
| 16:39.53 | rsimpkins | So I am going to guess something is wrong with the server itself. |
| 16:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
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| 16:40.34 | ScytheBlade1 | So THAT'S why, when Sammy asked me how I heard of him, and I replied #utah on freenode, he smiled and kinda laughed |
| 16:41.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh really? |
| 16:41.07 | findlay | who's sammy? |
| 16:41.13 | rsimpkins | Owner of USI. |
| 16:41.18 | rsimpkins | Universal Systems in SLC |
| 16:41.18 | findlay | what's USI? |
| 16:41.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Universal Systems |
| 16:41.26 | findlay | what's SLC? |
| 16:41.30 | rsimpkins | lol |
| 16:41.34 | rsimpkins | ~lart findlay |
| 16:41.38 | ScytheBlade1 | The place I go to when I need to throw money away on computers |
| 16:41.51 | ScytheBlade1 | And I'd rather support local small business than CompUSA |
| 16:42.07 | rsimpkins | Its on 33rd south and just under highland. |
| 16:42.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Not to mention I paid $11 for a 10' null modem cable and 3x 5.25' mounting brackings, when compusa would have been a good $40 |
| 16:42.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Assuming they even had the stuff |
| 16:42.28 | rsimpkins | He has a huge cable operation too. |
| 16:42.31 | ScytheBlade1 | 3300s, 1545s(?) |
| 16:42.51 | ScytheBlade1 | s/5s/5e/ |
| 16:43.01 | sjansen | Did SLLUG meet out there once when a water main had broken just outside the entrance? |
| 16:43.07 | rsimpkins | http://www.usicomputer.com/ Address is at the bottom. |
| 16:43.23 | rsimpkins | Oh, I wonder if they finally moved their stuff off. |
| 16:43.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, funny difference the www. makes |
| 16:43.28 | rsimpkins | Interesting. |
| 16:43.55 | sjansen | (10:42:02) Mecworks: looking at it now... thx |
| 16:43.58 | rsimpkins | ScytheBlade1: I tried to get him to let me fix that, but he wanted me to build systems, not play Linux admin. ;) |
| 16:44.09 | ScytheBlade1 | rsimpkins, haha |
| 16:44.16 | sjansen | maquis: ha ha, looks like I get to steal your credit :-P |
| 16:44.16 | findlay | why does apache-1.3 not like mod_fastcgi? |
| 16:44.27 | ScytheBlade1 | rsimpkins, I first met him after hours, I walked in and he got up to help me, despite it being after hours |
| 16:44.54 | ScytheBlade1 | rsimpkins, he proceeded to get a LOT happier when he learned that I needed a pair of rackmount servers twice over ;) |
| 16:44.57 | maquis | sjansen: :( |
| 16:44.58 | rsimpkins | ScytheBlade1: He is a great guy to have behind you. |
| 16:45.01 | sjansen | fastcgi on apache simply isn't.... the best implementation |
| 16:45.09 | ScytheBlade1 | rsimpkins, I've noticed |
| 16:45.31 | sjansen | findlay: Of course, there's always the possibility that it was compiled for a different version of apache. |
| 16:45.32 | findlay | then I blame cpanel |
| 16:45.47 | maquis | sjansen: let him know that the guy was really disappointed when he noticed at 2am this morning that he had missed yesterday's sllug meeting, because he couldn't get to the page |
| 16:46.20 | sjansen | (10:44:26) Mecworks: cool tell her thanks... |
| 16:46.20 | rsimpkins | I blame sun spots. Stupid spots looking at the sun... *Doh!* The goggles. They do nothing! |
| 16:46.43 | maquis | sjansen: cool |
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| 16:46.57 | findlay | sjansen: nope. I used apxs from the live apache installation |
| 16:47.49 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 16:48.08 | sjansen | heh, ibot picked the same person for me this morning |
| 16:48.32 | sjansen | tristanbob: I guess ibot has decided we should be mortal enemies. I have not choice but to honor her wishes. |
| 16:53.50 | tristanbob | of course, I understand |
| 16:54.46 | rsimpkins | I need an IRC client that integrates 3d scorched earth. That is the ultimate virtual LART system. |
| 16:57.35 | macnewbold | oh yeah |
| 16:57.38 | macnewbold | that game was sweet |
| 16:59.46 | sjansen | was? |
| 16:59.56 | findlay | scorch, heh. I remember the original tank game. It was actually called "Tank", or there was a cool animated intro if you ran bomb.exe |
| 17:05.19 | findlay | looks like this is it: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tank_Wars&action=edit |
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| 17:25.30 | rsimpkins | 3d Scorched earth is the old classic reborn. I think it is more fun that the original. It is hard to launch a death's head and take out everyone (including yourself) in 3D scorch. |
| 17:28.22 | findlay | in Tank Wars my favorite was the hugest, most expesive earthquake when the dirt was really high |
| 17:28.45 | findlay | I think the funnest part was the animations |
| 17:28.55 | findlay | and sound effects |
| 17:42.28 | rsimpkins | Anyone see that post from the guy wanting a web server? |
| 17:42.40 | rsimpkins | Is it really a web server he wants to buy a 4u for? |
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| 17:43.27 | elg | ~rlart |
| 17:44.31 | maquis | ~lart elg |
| 17:44.58 | macnewbold | ~bonk ibot |
| 17:45.00 | ibot | ACTION bonks ibot over the head |
| 17:45.03 | macnewbold | thank you |
| 17:46.09 | elg | -lart maquis |
| 17:46.14 | elg | ~shoot maquis |
| 17:46.16 | ibot | ACTION shoots maquis in the eye with a spitwad! |
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| 17:52.21 | emcnabb | ~rlart |
| 17:52.29 | emcnabb | dang you ibot |
| 17:52.31 | emcnabb | ~rlart |
| 17:52.56 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
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| 17:55.21 | jsmith | Anybody had a good experience with a moving company on a cross-country move? |
| 17:55.34 | jsmith | I'm looking for recommendations (or companies to say away from, for that matter) |
| 17:55.53 | elg_ | stay away from McJansen movers |
| 17:56.56 | jsmith | OK... any particular reason? I'm trying to learn what to watch out for. |
| 17:59.00 | sjansen | Because emcnabb and I aren't very... reliable. |
| 17:59.34 | sjansen | I'm a sweetheat, but emcnabb keeps encouraging me to take people's stuff and sell it instead of moving it. |
| 18:00.04 | sjansen | He considers a baseball bat an essential moving tool. ("If it's broken, I don't have to move it!") |
| 18:00.19 | sjansen | s/sweetheat/sweetheart/ |
| 18:00.43 | sjansen | Of course I'm sure that's not the way emcnabb will describe things, but who you gonna trust? |
| 18:02.34 | jsmith | Ah... that makes sense now. |
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| 18:10.37 | goozbach | horde is kinda cool |
| 18:10.45 | goozbach | kinda being the key word |
| 18:10.58 | goozbach | it seems ALMOST there |
| 18:14.16 | dilvie | =P |
| 18:14.18 | maquis | goozbach: i didn't get along very well with horde |
| 18:17.08 | findlay | ~horde |
| 18:17.10 | ibot | rumour has it, horde is PHP application framework http://www.horde.org/horde/ used for the popular IMP web email |
| 18:17.16 | brac | [The Horde Application Framework] |
| 18:23.02 | maquis | -lart emcnabb |
| 18:23.17 | maquis | now that would be entertaining |
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| 18:38.14 | goozbach | maquis: hence the ALMOST |
| 18:38.30 | maquis | goozbach: yeah |
| 18:38.31 | goozbach | what piece of technology do you ever "get along with"? |
| 18:38.36 | goozbach | :) |
| 18:38.38 | maquis | goozbach: hmmmm |
| 18:38.45 | maquis | i get along well with brac and ibot |
| 18:39.23 | goozbach | ~punish maquis |
| 18:39.24 | ibot | ACTION forces maquis to install and use Windows |
| 18:39.33 | goozbach | HAH! it doens't seem so |
| 18:39.35 | maquis | hey! |
| 18:40.02 | maquis | actually, my cs428 class is already doing that to me |
| 18:41.28 | herlo | maquis: that's why college sucks rocks |
| 18:41.40 | herlo | but we all gotta go through it |
| 18:41.45 | maquis | herlo: yeah |
| 18:41.52 | maquis | qemu is making it a bit easier |
| 18:43.11 | emcnabb | jsmith: I just moved cross-country with United Van Lines |
| 18:43.16 | emcnabb | we had a lot of problems |
| 18:43.26 | maquis | emcnabb: when do we get to see you dance? |
| 18:43.31 | emcnabb | United / Hilldrup |
| 18:43.37 | emcnabb | dance? me? |
| 18:43.44 | maquis | yeah |
| 18:43.48 | emcnabb | oh, I see |
| 18:43.53 | maquis | ibot said you were going to take some line dance classes :) |
| 18:43.55 | jsmith | emcnabb: What kind of problems? |
| 18:43.55 | emcnabb | maybe... never |
| 18:44.03 | jsmith | emcnabb: What specifically should I watch out for? |
| 18:44.12 | findlay | dancing problems evidently |
| 18:44.18 | maquis | er... actually it was brac |
| 18:45.34 | emcnabb | unresponsive when trying to get ahold of them; they were over 3500 lbs on their estimate, and that combined with a miscalculated figure they told us one morning casually "we need $3,300 from you by the way" |
| 18:46.01 | emcnabb | that was on top of what RH was paying |
| 18:46.20 | emcnabb | the driver was awesome; he was very helpful and prompt |
| 18:46.48 | maquis | over 3500 lbs or over *by* 3500 lbs? |
| 18:47.05 | emcnabb | they horribly chiped our new sleigh-style bed frame, but the guy who came out to fix it did a good job |
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| 18:47.39 | maquis | ick |
| 18:47.43 | emcnabb | they told us that we had 9500 lbs worth of stuff, and we actually only had 6900 or something like that |
| 18:47.50 | maquis | ah |
| 18:48.03 | findlay | emcnabb: what do you use all that stuff for? |
| 18:48.18 | maquis | emcnabb: how much of that stuff was computer stuff? |
| 18:48.26 | emcnabb | findlay: it's called a house full of furniture |
| 18:48.33 | emcnabb | and a piano |
| 18:48.49 | findlay | ooh, what kind of piano? |
| 18:48.51 | emcnabb | I took my computer museum out in my car; I don't trust them :-) |
| 18:49.01 | emcnabb | findlay: hold on |
| 18:49.29 | maquis | emcnabb: upright? baby-grand? grand? |
| 18:49.49 | findlay | and you left the sensitive, complex, precision musical instrument to the wiles of the movers? |
| 18:50.18 | maquis | findlay: if his car can hold a piano, i'd be rather startled |
| 18:50.29 | findlay | maquis: true |
| 18:50.31 | maquis | particularly if it's a grand |
| 18:50.36 | maquis | or a baby grand |
| 18:50.48 | emcnabb | I think this is it http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,CNTID%253D1327%2526CTID%253D201100,00.html |
| 18:51.08 | maquis | emcnabb: nice |
| 18:51.08 | findlay | yamahas are good |
| 18:51.14 | maquis | emcnabb: do you both play? |
| 18:51.35 | maquis | back home, my parents have a baldwin |
| 18:51.41 | maquis | we've had it since i was 4 |
| 18:52.13 | findlay | it always gets me when you see huge trucks with a 2' lift sporting a Yamaha decal on the back window, because the Yamaha logo is three tuning forks |
| 18:52.38 | findlay | maquis: Baldwin? upright? I'm sorry |
| 18:52.44 | maquis | findlay: no |
| 18:52.46 | maquis | a baldwin grand |
| 18:52.51 | maquis | very nice one |
| 18:52.52 | findlay | maquis: what year |
| 18:53.06 | maquis | findlay: 1987 or 88 |
| 18:53.10 | findlay | hm |
| 18:53.11 | maquis | i don't remember that far back |
| 18:53.17 | maquis | i was either 3 or 4 when we got it |
| 18:53.30 | findlay | I've never met a baldwin upright that I liked, but some |
| 18:53.39 | maquis | (whenever i first started taking piano lessons) |
| 18:53.43 | findlay | Baldwin grands I have seen were way nice |
| 18:53.53 | maquis | this one's really nice |
| 18:54.12 | findlay | they have exceptionally good touce |
| 18:54.14 | maquis | aside from a couple random nicks it got thanks to being used regularly by a little kid |
| 18:54.16 | findlay | s/e/h |
| 18:54.52 | findlay | although for touch nothing beats the new Kawai's |
| 18:55.26 | findlay | the Kawai grands with their ultra durable precision jack |
| 18:55.32 | findlay | made of carbon fiber |
| 18:56.30 | findlay | the North Carolina humidity is going to be murderous for emcnabb's piano coming from Utah |
| 19:06.41 | emcnabb | maquis: we both play |
| 19:06.47 | emcnabb | I play more than she does though |
| 19:06.57 | maquis | emcnabb: cool |
| 19:07.56 | maquis | i haven't played in forever... |
| 19:08.25 | findlay | let's form a piano ensamble: The Three #utahns |
| 19:08.50 | maquis | findlay: given how long it's been since i've played... i don't think you want me in... |
| 19:09.40 | herlo | maquis, I used qemu for my windows, but it doesn't yet support usb devices and I was gonna use it for a usb camera to talk to my son in California |
| 19:09.47 | maquis | herlo: ah |
| 19:09.54 | maquis | i'm not too worried about that |
| 19:09.56 | herlo | so I had to switch to vmware |
| 19:10.01 | maquis | i just need to be able to use .net |
| 19:10.05 | herlo | eventually, I want to convert over to xen totally |
| 19:10.14 | herlo | maquis: yeah, that'll be easy |
| 19:10.14 | maquis | herlo: freebsd doesn't support vmware at the moment, unfortunately |
| 19:10.28 | herlo | maquis: that bites, does freebsd support xen?> |
| 19:10.44 | sjansen | herlo: It's lagging Linux, but yes. |
| 19:11.16 | sjansen | I don't remember if FreeBSD has Xen support yet. |
| 19:11.26 | herlo | sjansen: you don't really look much like maquis |
| 19:11.35 | maquis | lol |
| 19:11.40 | sjansen | But to run Windows on Xen, maquis would need a computer with hardware virtualization. |
| 19:11.48 | herlo | sjansen: this is true |
| 19:12.05 | maquis | herlo: i'm not sure, but last i checked, freebsd didn't like being the host in xen |
| 19:12.17 | sjansen | s/I don't remember if FreeBSD has Xen support yet./I don't remember if FreeBSD has Xen _3_ support yet. |
| 19:12.19 | herlo | ahh, that'd suck |
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| 19:13.40 | sjansen | herlo: Are you implying that I'm more attractive than maquis, or less? |
| 19:13.51 | sjansen | Remember, I've got something maquis doesn't: a beard. |
| 19:14.02 | maquis | *cough* |
| 19:14.07 | herlo | hmm, I would absolutley, positively have to say that maquis is much better looking than you!!! |
| 19:14.18 | herlo | for one, she's of the fairer sex |
| 19:14.20 | sjansen | Harrumph. |
| 19:14.31 | herlo | and two, she doesn't have a beard, which is a bonus |
| 19:14.40 | sjansen | Double harrumph. |
| 19:14.43 | herlo | beards scare me |
| 19:14.47 | herlo | :-( |
| 19:14.59 | sjansen | Really? |
| 19:15.27 | sjansen | herlo: Well, I'm just going to have to grow mine out so there will be more for you to enjoy. |
| 19:15.45 | herlo | sjansen: no, not really |
| 19:15.57 | sjansen | bah |
| 19:15.59 | herlo | I just don't like them much |
| 19:15.59 | sjansen | tease |
| 19:16.26 | emcnabb | I have a couple pictures of sjansen without a beard |
| 19:16.54 | emcnabb | he doesn't look like a stereotypical child molester :-) |
| 19:17.06 | maquis | emcnabb: the photo section of your website is rather.... lacking... |
| 19:17.10 | herlo | emcnabb: I've seen one. He was with spr and someone else...freaky |
| 19:17.12 | emcnabb | yes, it is |
| 19:17.30 | sjansen | herlo: Maddog |
| 19:17.41 | sjansen | That is a picture to be proud of. |
| 19:17.43 | herlo | sjansen: yeah, that's right |
| 19:17.51 | maquis | emcnabb: you should get wedding pics up sometime...... |
| 19:17.52 | sjansen | Kinda like having a picture with Linus. |
| 19:18.06 | maquis | my cousin met linus once |
| 19:18.11 | sjansen | Lisa is a figment of emcnabb's imagination. |
| 19:18.28 | sjansen | The Lisa you met was a hired actor. |
| 19:18.34 | maquis | the only reason she knew who it was is because she had read something about him in the newspaper (she lives in oregon), and remembered that i had told her about linux |
| 19:18.45 | sjansen | emcnabb moved to NC because he couldn't afford to keep up the charade any longer. |
| 19:18.46 | herlo | sjansen: Isn't Lisa an OS? |
| 19:19.02 | macnewbold | is, was, etc |
| 19:19.36 | herlo | thus emcnabb could've just been running an OS and all along thought it was more, much more |
| 19:19.37 | sjansen | Ah ha! That must be it, that's how emcnabb chose the name. |
| 19:19.44 | macnewbold | there's also a sysadmin conference called LISA now |
| 19:19.47 | sjansen | He wanted a Lisa for his ancient computers collection. |
| 19:20.27 | maquis | so, if lisa's a computer... who did i meet? |
| 19:20.28 | dilvie | hello |
| 19:20.37 | herlo | maquis: a hologram |
| 19:20.46 | herlo | created by Lisa |
| 19:21.12 | herlo | maquis: haven't you ever seen Star Wars? I mean that was created in 1977, the holograms these days are much, much better |
| 19:21.42 | maquis | herlo: good point |
| 19:21.52 | dilvie | a midi host can mean many things, but it usually means that it can manage timecode and messages for other programs, and it's usually a full-fledged sequencer, whereas, MIDI in just means that it can understand certain incoming MIDI messages |
| 19:21.55 | maquis | that was a pretty good hologram |
| 19:22.06 | herlo | maquis: did you touch it? |
| 19:22.27 | maquis | herlo: don't think so |
| 19:22.30 | herlo | dang |
| 19:22.39 | sjansen | maquis: the actor |
| 19:22.39 | tristanbob | ok - in debian/ubuntu what is the best way to manage services (similar to chkconfig)? I am looking at update-rc.d but not sure it does all that I want |
| 19:22.47 | emcnabb | oh my, we need to hire a psychologist or two for #utah |
| 19:22.51 | maquis | dilvie: is that in answer to my question? |
| 19:22.55 | emcnabb | starting with sjansen |
| 19:23.04 | emcnabb | then he/she will help herlo |
| 19:23.10 | maquis | emcnabb: i thought you were the one needing a psychologist |
| 19:23.17 | emcnabb | and maquis needs some help in there too |
| 19:23.25 | sjansen | tristanbob: You're right, update-rc.d is _not_ what you want. |
| 19:23.44 | sjansen | I think I finally settled on ntsysv or something like that. |
| 19:23.50 | tristanbob | If I want to disable a service from starting - is there a non-manual way? |
| 19:23.56 | emcnabb | chkconfig is great |
| 19:24.03 | sjansen | Be aware, however, that Debian and Ubuntu behave differently when it comes to service management. |
| 19:24.11 | emcnabb | sysv-rc-conf |
| 19:24.14 | tristanbob | sjansen: how so? |
| 19:24.15 | emcnabb | that works pretty well |
| 19:24.19 | tristanbob | sysv-rc-conf |
| 19:24.27 | tristanbob | sorry for repeating - not sure why I did that |
| 19:24.32 | sjansen | Last I checked, Debian doesn't automatically start services like Ubuntu. |
| 19:24.37 | tristanbob | ahh |
| 19:24.56 | sjansen | And I think Ubuntu handles run levels a little differently. |
| 19:25.48 | sjansen | I love Ubuntu. Service management is one of my very few gripes about it. |
| 19:26.15 | tristanbob | sjansen: I also see rcconf, have you tried that? |
| 19:26.37 | sjansen | I don't recall. I don't have an Ubuntu box available at the moment. |
| 19:27.46 | herlo | sjansen: run levels are way different in Ubuntu |
| 19:28.06 | emcnabb | ~lart herlo |
| 19:28.28 | herlo | sjansen: try an init 6 sometime. It doesn't reboot the machine as you would expect...strange behavior |
| 19:28.28 | herlo | ~lart emcnabb as herlo was making a point |
| 19:29.07 | emcnabb | haha |
| 19:29.21 | maquis | emcnabb: you're just trying to project your insecurities on the rest of us by saying we're the ones needing help |
| 19:29.40 | emcnabb | thanks Dr Maquis |
| 19:29.47 | maquis | emcnabb: np :) |
| 19:29.52 | emcnabb | go back to your own little happy world |
| 19:29.54 | herlo | ~pimpslap emcnabb |
| 19:29.56 | ibot | herlo pimpslaps emcnabb. ouch! |
| 19:30.20 | herlo | there, now I feel MUCH better |
| 19:31.36 | rsimpkins | ibot is really abusive. |
| 19:31.53 | rsimpkins | Some phsycological issues there? |
| 19:35.32 | findlay | ~abuse |
| 19:35.34 | ibot | abuse is, like, http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/policy-abuse.php or RFC 2142 or echo Shut your festering gob, you tit! | mail abuse |
| 19:35.38 | brac | [Listing policy for abuse.rfc-ignorant.org zone] |
| 19:35.56 | findlay | ~censor ibot |
| 19:38.33 | findlay | what's the easiest way to get the favicon from a site? |
| 19:38.59 | sjansen | wget |
| 19:39.08 | sjansen | wget http://foo.com/favicon.ico |
| 19:39.14 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@dhcp29.cs.nmsu.edu) |
| 19:39.16 | brac | [Yeah.com - Only the best links ...] |
| 19:39.44 | sjansen | o/~ elg and emcnabb sitting in a tree... ~/o |
| 19:39.47 | *** join/#utah RyanE_ (i=Piadas@rberick.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 19:40.16 | sjansen | ~pick on emcnabb |
| 19:40.18 | ibot | ACTION teases emcnabb until emcnabb starts to cry |
| 19:40.47 | tristanbob | found another tool, "sysvconfig". So far there is "sysv-rc-conf", "rcconf", and "sysvconfig". I am trying to determine which one is best. |
| 19:41.05 | sjansen | I think sysvconfig was the one I settled on. |
| 19:41.28 | herlo | ~tease emcnabb |
| 19:41.29 | ibot | ACTION tickles emcnabb with a feather and makes emcnabb rotflmaopimp-ing |
| 19:42.37 | findlay | ~defend emcnabb |
| 19:42.39 | ibot | ACTION jumps in front of emcnabb, taking all insults, violence and anything else negative thrown toward emcnabb so that emcnabb may live on in peace and quiet |
| 19:47.43 | emcnabb | but it wasn't findlay protecting me, it was ibot! |
| 19:47.46 | emcnabb | I win! |
| 19:48.21 | sjansen | http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=99347&WT.svl=tease3_2 |
| 19:48.29 | brac | [Dark Reading - Application and Perimeter Security - Social Engineering, the Shoppers' Way - Security] |
| 19:54.06 | herlo | today's lunch was not enough. I am already hungry |
| 19:55.16 | jsmith | herlo: At least you've had lunch |
| 19:55.26 | herlo | jsmith: It's 4pm here |
| 19:55.59 | sjansen | herlo: What're you planning for dinner. |
| 19:56.08 | herlo | sjansen: Ruth's Chris |
| 19:56.13 | jsmith | herlo: Jerk! |
| 19:56.14 | sjansen | Again, huh? |
| 19:56.24 | herlo | sjansen: never actually went |
| 19:56.32 | herlo | ~lart jsmith-away |
| 19:56.43 | herlo | how appropriate |
| 19:56.47 | jsmith-away | Is it pickled herring? |
| 19:56.47 | sjansen | I can't decide if it's worth it to drive downtown for steak, of stay out in the burbs and eat Cheesecake Factory. |
| 19:56.57 | jsmith-away | sjansen: Go for the steak... |
| 19:56.59 | herlo | jsmith-away: not on your life |
| 19:57.14 | herlo | sjansen: where are you? |
| 19:57.17 | sjansen | jsmith-away: You know, Guru Labs is hiring. You could be eating steak too. |
| 19:57.23 | sjansen | herlo: Columbia, MD |
| 19:57.43 | herlo | ooh, we should drive for 4 hours each just to have dinner in the same place, it'd be fun!! |
| 19:57.48 | jsmith-away | sjansen: Yeah, but I'm already doing training. And I don't have to travel as often. |
| 19:57.50 | sjansen | heh |
| 19:58.10 | jsmith-away | jsmith-away: I'll keep you guys in mind if I ever decide I can put up with that much travel. |
| 19:58.15 | herlo | sjansen: okay, that's fine, I didn't really wanna drive 4 hours anyway |
| 19:58.25 | sjansen | Until recently, I travelled once a month or so. |
| 19:58.34 | jsmith-away | Yeah, that's about where I'm at. |
| 19:58.43 | jsmith-away | herlo: Then you don't get your trinkets ;-) |
| 19:58.47 | herlo | sjansen: I think it'll go back to that with new hires.. |
| 19:59.47 | herlo | sjansen: or we will have just that much more owrk |
| 19:59.52 | herlo | s/owrk/work |
| 20:06.35 | emcnabb | sjansen: I'm driving up to Maryland tomorrow |
| 20:06.47 | emcnabb | the final destination is West Virginia though |
| 20:09.50 | goozbach | I blame canada |
| 20:09.51 | levi | I like Maryland. |
| 20:11.29 | goozbach | actually it's my fault that sjansen has to decide between steak and cheesecake |
| 20:11.42 | goozbach | sjansen: eat a steak at cheesecake |
| 20:12.04 | beandog | Does anyone here have just naked DSL (no phone lines) with qwest? |
| 20:12.50 | beandog | I'm trying to figure out what the total bill would be, and if its worth the $$$ switching from Comcast |
| 20:13.00 | beandog | Who are gouging me at $46 /mo for cable internet |
| 20:13.09 | herlo | beandog: I do, qwest and comcast actually |
| 20:13.28 | beandog | herlo: whats the final price on your DSL like? |
| 20:13.42 | levi | $46/mo isn't that bad for 6mbit service. |
| 20:13.48 | herlo | $46 is cheap for comcast, how'd you get such a deal? |
| 20:14.34 | beandog | cable tv |
| 20:14.38 | beandog | $10 discount |
| 20:14.46 | levi | It's their current rate if you get tv through them. |
| 20:14.54 | beandog | Ive got basic cable (something like 25 channels, including byutv, discovery channel), and cable internet |
| 20:15.00 | herlo | beandog: I pay 70/month and I have cable as well |
| 20:15.05 | beandog | basic cable = $12/mo |
| 20:15.07 | xbmodder_newlapp | levi, I was playing with Comcast's 6 mbit a while back, and it kept dropping out |
| 20:15.13 | xbmodder_newlapp | to ~2mbit |
| 20:15.16 | xbmodder_newlapp | or even 1 mbit |
| 20:15.25 | beandog | I average about 800kbps down |
| 20:15.28 | levi | xbmodder: I have freakin' 256k DSL. Quit complaining. |
| 20:15.35 | xbmodder_newlapp | sometimes -- If I was pushing too much data through -- it would drop |
| 20:15.46 | herlo | beandog: qwest service is okay. they have a good deal right now, for one year. After that, its gonna be similar to comcast... |
| 20:15.47 | xbmodder_newlapp | and then I'd have to go to the modem |
| 20:16.00 | beandog | herlo: okay, thanks |
| 20:16.01 | xbmodder_newlapp | unplug it, wait, plug it in, wait, and ping out |
| 20:16.06 | beandog | Id rather not deal with Qwest if I have to. |
| 20:16.08 | herlo | beandog: I heard from someone here on #utah that the bandwidth at comcast is supposed to increase though... |
| 20:16.13 | beandog | Especially if Im not gonna save that much |
| 20:16.15 | xbmodder_newlapp | levi, Where did you find 256kbit/sec DSL? |
| 20:16.26 | beandog | herlo: yah, its already increased twice since I originally signed up |
| 20:16.34 | levi | xbmodder_newlapp: Um, from Qwest? Where else would I get it? |
| 20:16.40 | herlo | 6mbps, then 8? |
| 20:16.49 | beandog | herlo: I dunno |
| 20:17.00 | beandog | herlo: I just remember a noticable difference. :) |
| 20:17.05 | herlo | beandog: that's what I have now...still not sure how you are getting such a great rate |
| 20:17.10 | beandog | herlo: I get confused about the #s :T |
| 20:17.23 | beandog | huh |
| 20:17.29 | beandog | Maybe I should stop complaining then |
| 20:17.45 | beandog | $45 + $12 = $56 for cable Internet + basic cable |
| 20:17.49 | beandog | That's not a bad deal? |
| 20:17.53 | rsimpkins | I have 8MB down from comcast at $54/month. High, but it is fast. |
| 20:18.00 | herlo | yeah, its 55 + 12 for me, plus tax = $70 even |
| 20:18.14 | beandog | Well Im not counting taxes |
| 20:18.27 | herlo | beandog: its a ripoff, but you can't get a much better deal .... |
| 20:18.31 | herlo | its unfortunate |
| 20:19.19 | beandog | herlo: yah... oh well. :T |
| 20:19.28 | goozbach | I pay 125/month and I have almost too many channels |
| 20:19.34 | goozbach | plus 6meg internet |
| 20:19.36 | rsimpkins | I heard a roumer - from a comcast contractor/tech, that speeds were going to be increased to 12MB-14MB down in the coming months. |
| 20:19.36 | rsimpkins | I pay 86/mo and get digital cable (with on demand), and "speed" tier interenet. There are deals out there. |
| 20:19.38 | xbmodder_newlapp | levi, hm, The lowest I've seen (my entire life) is 1500 down over DSL |
| 20:19.48 | rsimpkins | I hear if you tell comcast you are switching to directTV, or DSL, all the suddent the prices fall. |
| 20:20.08 | xbmodder_newlapp | rsimpkins, yeah, thats comcast's rebuttal to project lightspeed |
| 20:20.21 | herlo | rsimpkins: I just mentioned that same rumor |
| 20:20.37 | levi | xbmodder_newlapp: So? I have 256k DSL. Any faster, and my connection drops out very frequently. |
| 20:20.47 | goozbach | rsimpkins: yup |
| 20:20.55 | levi | xbmodder_newlapp: Besides which, your 'entire life' is not very long. |
| 20:21.16 | xbmodder_newlapp | heh |
| 20:21.35 | xbmodder_newlapp | levi, how far are you from the CO? |
| 20:21.38 | rsimpkins | The problem with comcast is upload. If they increase their up to something like 1.5MB or more - I think A LOT more geeks would jump on board. |
| 20:21.55 | herlo | rsimpkins: I will have to call comcast and try that tactic... |
| 20:21.59 | levi | xbmodder_newlapp: Right at the limit for DSL service, apparently. |
| 20:22.17 | rsimpkins | herlo: I know a guy who has done it twice. But - they might call your bluff - dunno. |
| 20:22.42 | herlo | rsimpkins: If they call my bluff, I will just tell them that I'll call them back in a little while |
| 20:23.20 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | wow - quite the heat on Mormons on digg today |
| 20:23.41 | beandog | digg: the collective conciousness of idiotic 12-year olds nationwide |
| 20:23.58 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | beandog: lol |
| 20:24.04 | Jayce^ | http://www.break.com/index/pool_table_nickel_trick.html |
| 20:24.08 | brac | [Pool Table Nickel Trick - BREAK.com] |
| 20:24.09 | Jayce^ | cool pool trick |
| 20:24.24 | rsimpkins | m{\w{5}_Jesse}: What are you talkinga bout? |
| 20:24.31 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | I'm about to post the blog entry on runmittrun about how 30% of people won't vote for him just because he's Mormon |
| 20:24.46 | beandog | http://digg.com/videos_educational/Mormon_theology_in_6_minutes |
| 20:24.53 | beandog | [Reported by Diggers as Possibly Inaccurate] |
| 20:25.11 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | I was one of those diggers btw :-) |
| 20:25.24 | xbmodder_newlapp | direct link to WMV: http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/pool_table_nickel_trick.wmv |
| 20:25.46 | emcnabb | strange question: Any BYU graduates interested in some parttime Linux System Administration work? |
| 20:26.06 | emcnabb | strange as in "You must be a BYU graduate" |
| 20:28.46 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | strange as in it was posted by emcnabb :-P |
| 20:29.40 | rsimpkins | emcnabb: That is an odd requirment. |
| 20:30.31 | *** join/#utah dilvie (n=dilvie@c-67-166-126-133.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 20:31.04 | dilvie | =P |
| 20:31.30 | dilvie | BBQ / Cook-off at sugarhouse park, Saturday the 29th, 7:30pm |
| 20:31.34 | dilvie | email me for details |
| 20:31.34 | goozbach | hello! NET::LDAP::Util |
| 20:31.37 | dilvie | dilvie@dilvie.com |
| 20:31.54 | goozbach | it has a function to turn error codes into usefull stuff |
| 20:32.15 | goozbach | and here I spent the last three days looking up errorcodes on a sheet taped to the filing cabinet next to me. |
| 20:36.31 | emcnabb | ~lart m{\w{5}_Jesse} |
| 20:37.54 | emcnabb | ~nick m{\w{5}_Jesse} |
| 20:38.02 | emcnabb | ~lame m{\w{5}_Jesse} |
| 20:38.04 | ibot | Ugh, m{\w{5}_Jesse}'s aura of lame is affecting me! |
| 20:38.28 | emcnabb | how do you test the lameness of a nick with ibot? |
| 20:40.47 | goozbach | ~nickometer m{\w{5}_Jesse} |
| 20:40.52 | herlo | beandog, mormon history, interesting... |
| 20:41.00 | maquis | ~nickometer emcnabb |
| 20:41.26 | goozbach | ~nickometer goozbach |
| 20:41.37 | tene | ~nickometer xl5q|3q |
| 20:41.54 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | alright - digg away: http://digg.com/politics/37_of_People_Will_Not_Vote_*Regardless*_of_Issue_for_a_Mormon |
| 20:43.59 | rsimpkins | Can you ask ibot why someone is lame? |
| 20:45.14 | beandog | dugg |
| 20:45.21 | maquis | rsimpkins: i'd suggest seeing if you can figure it out :) |
| 20:45.59 | rsimpkins | maquis: If it is possible, I will. If someone knows it is not possible, then I would have saved the wated time in trying to figure it out. |
| 20:46.29 | beandog | ~nickometer beandog |
| 20:46.33 | beandog | :D |
| 20:46.38 | maquis | rsimpkins: it's pretty simple to figure out |
| 20:46.42 | maquis | you will not be lame |
| 20:46.51 | maquis | ~nickometer 1337 |
| 20:48.23 | redbeard1 | i need to take a poll. this one is for the guys. |
| 20:48.28 | redbeard1 | i'm putting together a romantic meals class for a group of women. if you could have your wife/girlfriend/etc make you anything you wanted for a surprise romantic dinner, what would you want? |
| 20:48.34 | dilvie | poll? |
| 20:48.45 | harleypig | Any one notice that 1337 is 31333337 in hex |
| 20:48.45 | harleypig | ? |
| 20:48.45 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | redbeard1: steak! |
| 20:48.59 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | or bbq |
| 20:49.01 | rsimpkins | redbeard1: Something that doesn't make your breath stink, and make you so full you can't move afterwords. |
| 20:49.05 | dilvie | harleypig: I've never noticed that. |
| 20:49.15 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | I don't care about my breath - just has to taste good |
| 20:49.35 | rsimpkins | m{\w{5}_Jesse}: Your poor wife. |
| 20:50.05 | dilvie | redbeard1: lemon garlic artichoke hearts with capers on angel hair pasta |
| 20:50.11 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | rsimpkins: she's making a romantic meal for *me* - I don't want to have to worry about that stuff if I'm going to feel romantic :-) |
| 20:50.16 | rsimpkins | redbeard1: A light desert always ups the romantic meter. Espeically with whip cream. :) |
| 20:50.32 | herlo | redbeard1: any aphrodisiac will do |
| 20:50.35 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | if it was her then I would make something that doesn't make my breath stink |
| 20:50.36 | dilvie | garlic breath is always romantic |
| 20:50.37 | dilvie | =) |
| 20:50.39 | dilvie | haha |
| 20:50.58 | dilvie | hmm |
| 20:51.05 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | chocolate is good - especially if it's accompanied by bbq |
| 20:51.19 | dilvie | maybe something with melons and oysters? |
| 20:51.33 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | or steak |
| 20:52.04 | dilvie | oysters and melons sauted in butter and white wine, served on angel hair pasta |
| 20:52.07 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | lobster is good too |
| 20:52.16 | dilvie | yeah, lobster rules |
| 20:52.43 | harleypig | buncha pervs |
| 20:52.59 | dilvie | maybe lobster with vanilla white wine sauce... on a bed of angle hair pasta. notice a trend? |
| 20:53.00 | dilvie | =) |
| 20:53.19 | dilvie | light sauce with something sweet on angel hair pasta |
| 20:53.20 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | dilvie: with chocolate-covered strawberries? |
| 20:53.29 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | and scorpion tails |
| 20:53.32 | dilvie | jesse: for dessert. |
| 20:53.48 | dilvie | chocolate dipped scorpion tails |
| 20:53.52 | harleypig | Anyone ever notice that for mothers day dad takes the kids and gives mom a break and for fathers dad takes the kids and spends the day with theM? |
| 20:53.53 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | mmmm... |
| 20:53.59 | dilvie | the girls will love frying the live scorpions. |
| 20:54.01 | dilvie | =) |
| 20:54.07 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | harleypig: yeah - I never understood that |
| 20:54.31 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | dilvie: or even live lobsters |
| 20:55.00 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | redbeard1: snakes, and snails, and puppy-dog tails are all romantic |
| 20:55.35 | harleypig | And for mothers day we get her jewelry and a day at the spa and for fathers day we buy ourselves power tools? |
| 20:55.47 | harleypig | Sorry ... I'm feeling a tda bitter. |
| 20:55.55 | harleypig | s/tda/tad/ |
| 20:56.58 | rsimpkins | To me father's day is a celebration of fatherhood. How better to celebrate than spend the day doing fatherly things? Mothers day is a day to show appriciation for the day to day struggle that mothers go through - which means a day off. |
| 20:57.06 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | well, got 6 diggs pretty quickly there - it's dying off now |
| 20:57.31 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | this society is so pro-woman |
| 20:57.33 | harleypig | yeah, my wife said the same thing ... I didn't buy it from her either. |
| 20:57.59 | harleypig | It's the same thing I just said, except a lot more bs thrown in. |
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| 21:19.28 | sjansen | harleypig: Perhaps you need to start roaring. |
| 21:19.42 | sjansen | "I am harleypig, hear me ROAR!" |
| 21:23.29 | Jayce^ | sjansen, that would be 'OINK' |
| 21:23.38 | Jayce^ | maybe *SNORT* |
| 21:23.47 | Jayce^ | squeal? |
| 21:24.39 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.47 | harleypig | too bad that doesn't work irl. |
| 21:25.10 | harleypig | I certainly killed the convo again though, din't I. |
| 21:25.16 | nick125_lappy | probably |
| 21:26.02 | harleypig | http://www.comics.com/creators/workingitout/index.html "I'm not immature! You're just a doodie-head!" |
| 21:26.06 | brac | [Working It Out] |
| 21:26.57 | sjansen | I just turned off 24 student machines without standing up. I love Linux. |
| 21:27.42 | levi | Only 24? |
| 21:28.02 | Supaplex | now netboot all of them and format windows off. |
| 21:28.11 | Supaplex | w/o standing up. |
| 21:28.26 | nick125_lappy | haha |
| 21:28.36 | harleypig | sjansen is going to need some knee pads . |
| 21:28.45 | sjansen | Sigh, wouldn't that be nice. Wake on LAN + remove boot device selection. We're so close. |
| 21:28.46 | harleypig | :D Today's DailyWTF is hilarioius. |
| 21:28.58 | harleypig | s/hilarious/ |
| 21:29.01 | harleypig | err yeah |
| 21:29.22 | levi | Our clusters are set up that way. Of course, they never had Windows to begin with, and they mostly use LInuxBIOS and etherboot. |
| 21:29.52 | levi | But you can repartition them and provision them with new images without leaving your desk. |
| 21:42.43 | *** join/#utah {-} (n=sjansen@64-205-130-223.client.dsl.net) |
| 21:43.17 | {-} | How annoying, this data center only hands out DHCP to registered MAC addresses. |
| 21:43.25 | {-} | s/data center/training center/ |
| 21:45.07 | {-} | ~console macnewbold |
| 21:45.09 | ibot | ACTION gives macnewbold the consolation moose |
| 21:45.11 | {-} | ~console maquis |
| 21:45.14 | ibot | ACTION gives maquis the consolation moose |
| 21:46.09 | macnewbold | ~teach ibot that ma<tab> does not always equal maquis |
| 21:46.45 | {-} | maquis: Look at it this way, at it was easy for me to steal a MAC address and get back online. I could be your ray of sunshine on a cloudy day. |
| 21:47.22 | maquis | {-}: if you're my ray of sunshine.... ummm... |
| 21:47.23 | maquis | yeah |
| 21:49.16 | {-} | dilvie: Thanks for pointing out The Polish Ambassador, he's making exam setup much more enjoyable. |
| 21:49.45 | dilvie | {-} any time. =) |
| 21:54.20 | m{\w{5}_Jesse} | ~lart {-} |
| 21:54.49 | sjansen | ~fart m{\w{5}_Jesse} |
| 21:54.50 | ibot | ACTION farts in m{\w{5}_Jesse}'s general direction |
| 21:55.08 | s{{-}}{}g | ~console sjansen |
| 21:55.09 | ibot | ACTION gives sjansen the consolation moose |
| 21:55.54 | dilvie | waiting for file upload |
| 21:55.58 | dilvie | publishing post |
| 21:56.36 | sjansen | You all have a nice day, I'm going to see a cheese cake about a steak... or something like that. |
| 21:56.45 | s{Jesse}{l337h4x | doh |
| 22:07.49 | *** join/#utah hatchmt (n=mhatch@71-219-29-246.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 22:24.42 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 22:25.19 | elg | ~vent |
| 22:25.27 | elg | hope is emo? |
| 22:26.20 | levi | Silly video blog thingy with this girl mockingly portraying 'emo kids'. |
| 22:34.35 | l337h4x0r | hmmm |
| 22:34.40 | l337h4x0r | this nick isn't registered |
| 22:35.00 | l337h4x0r | i find that rather startling |
| 22:35.13 | s{2b|[^2b]}{ques | dang |
| 22:35.22 | l337h4x0r | s{2b|[^2b]}{ques: there's a limit to the number of characters |
| 22:35.44 | tene | ~nickometer s{2b|[^2b]}{ques |
| 22:36.03 | l337h4x0r | ~nickometer l337h4x0r |
| 22:36.09 | l337h4x0r | sweet! |
| 22:36.20 | levi | No, lame. |
| 22:36.23 | l337h4x0r | or should i say 5\/\/337! |
| 22:36.25 | s{2b|[^2b]}{qstn | need something for "question" that fits |
| 22:38.23 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | yes! |
| 22:38.34 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | ~nickometer m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} |
| 22:38.47 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | old one was more lame |
| 22:40.32 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | ~duel l337h4x0r |
| 22:41.33 | l337h4x0r | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]}: good thing you tab-complete |
| 22:41.54 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | heh |
| 22:42.11 | l337h4x0r | :) |
| 22:42.30 | *** join/#utah herlo1 (n=upirc@h46078712.area7.spcsdns.net) |
| 22:43.35 | *** mode/#utah [+o maquis] by ChanServ |
| 22:43.37 | herlo1 | I so need to delete that factoid |
| 22:43.46 | maquis | ~delete herlo1 |
| 22:43.47 | ibot | Segmentation fault. |
| 22:44.12 | maquis | doh |
| 22:45.05 | herlo1 | way to go homer |
| 22:46.37 | *** mode/#utah [+o emcnabb] by maquis |
| 22:46.42 | *** join/#utah synic (n=squish@pdpc/supporter/student/synic) |
| 22:47.16 | findlay | ~onjoin herlo1 |
| 22:47.16 | ibot | onjoin for herlo1 set by lars-ut-away on Tue Feb 7 07:26:46 2006: Well, is it herlo or hell-ro? Make up your mind! |
| 22:47.35 | findlay | ~nullify onjoin herlo1 |
| 22:47.36 | ibot | onjoin herlo1 = NULL; |
| 22:47.37 | herlo1 | maquis, whatya whistlin? |
| 22:47.41 | findlay | ~erase onjoin herlo1 |
| 22:47.48 | maquis | herlo1: just the song of innocence |
| 22:47.51 | findlay | ~baleeted onjoin herlo1 |
| 22:48.03 | findlay | ~erase from existence onjoin herlo1 |
| 22:48.07 | herlo1 | maquis: uh huh! |
| 22:48.13 | maquis | :) |
| 22:48.23 | findlay | ~homer onjoin herlo1 |
| 22:48.59 | findlay | ~onjoin -herlo1 |
| 22:48.59 | ibot | ok, findlay |
| 22:49.05 | findlay | that's it |
| 22:49.09 | herlo1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.13 | findlay | heh |
| 22:49.51 | *** join/#utah vex (n=na@216.194.126.99) |
| 22:50.27 | herlo1 | oh the bread here is awesome!! |
| 22:50.32 | maquis | herlo1: you wanna check your onjoin? |
| 22:50.35 | maquis | i can help... |
| 22:50.55 | herlo1 | ~onjoin herloq |
| 22:50.58 | herlo1 | dang |
| 22:51.05 | tene | maquis: you should help. |
| 22:51.17 | *** kick/#utah [herlo1!n=maquis@joanna.zmonkey.org] by maquis (test your onjoin) |
| 22:51.20 | herlo1 | ~onjoin herlo1 |
| 22:51.38 | *** join/#utah herlo1 (n=upirc@h46078712.area7.spcsdns.net) |
| 22:51.44 | maquis | or he did... |
| 22:51.44 | tene | I strongly endorse any abuse of power^W^W^Whelping of community members. |
| 22:51.47 | maquis | but he spoke afterwards |
| 22:52.01 | maquis | herlo1: looks like you're fixed :) |
| 22:53.09 | findlay | ~onjoin remember herlo1 |
| 22:53.09 | ibot | findlay: ok |
| 22:53.18 | herlo1 | uh: that wasn't nice- kick herlo1 is not nice |
| 22:53.19 | findlay | hm, now what did that do |
| 22:53.21 | findlay | ? |
| 22:53.34 | findlay | ~onjoin |
| 22:53.45 | findlay | ~onjoin herlo1 |
| 22:53.52 | findlay | oh, duh |
| 22:53.59 | herlo1 | @ Ruth's Chris |
| 22:54.00 | maquis | herlo1: i was helping you test your thing |
| 22:54.14 | findlay | ibot doesn't assign connotations to words |
| 22:54.21 | findlay | ~onjoin remember |
| 22:54.21 | ibot | onjoin for remember set by findlay on Thu Jul 20 16:53:09 2006: herlo1 |
| 22:54.25 | herlo1 | maquis: kicking me helps? |
| 22:54.32 | findlay | ~remember onjoin herlo1 |
| 22:54.33 | ibot | How can i forget about onjoin herlo1 ? That person is the greatest <fill in whatever is appropriate> in the whole wide world ! |
| 22:54.46 | findlay | ~forget onjoin herlo1 |
| 22:54.46 | ibot | findlay: i didn't have anything called 'onjoin herlo1 ' to forget |
| 22:54.50 | maquis | herlo1: yeah... to ensure your change to your onjoin worked |
| 22:54.51 | herlo1 | ,/me chuckles |
| 22:54.52 | findlay | whatever |
| 22:55.07 | *** join/#utah tiwula (n=lane@208.64.90.18.utahbroadband.com) |
| 22:55.22 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | why is it that all ops abuse their power? |
| 22:55.23 | herlo1 | maquis: okay but warn me next time |
| 22:55.32 | herlo1 | maquis: tx |
| 22:55.32 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | I never get to be ops :-( |
| 22:56.05 | herlo1 | don't give it to him |
| 22:56.17 | findlay | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]}: just join #qperubadjfbhaebq and you can have all the ops you want |
| 22:56.17 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | herlo1 just wants it for himself |
| 22:56.24 | herlo1 | he's using that reverse psychology stuff on you... |
| 22:56.32 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | findlay: but then I wouldn't have ops of #utah |
| 22:56.33 | findlay | ops are overrated |
| 22:56.40 | findlay | ~overrate ops |
| 22:56.46 | findlay | see? |
| 22:56.48 | maquis | herlo1: i suggested you do it |
| 22:57.00 | maquis | then i just did it |
| 22:57.00 | maquis | :) |
| 22:57.01 | herlo1 | foods here |
| 22:57.04 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | findlay: you're just jealous |
| 22:57.22 | findlay | nah, I don't really care |
| 22:57.22 | maquis | anyway... emcnabb is op now... |
| 22:57.25 | maquis | we'll see how long that lasts |
| 22:57.31 | findlay | ~op emcnabb |
| 22:57.36 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | maquis: me too! me too! |
| 22:57.40 | findlay | ~seg fault |
| 22:57.44 | maquis | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]}: i think you have to be registered |
| 22:57.52 | findlay | ibot: do you know anything? |
| 22:57.54 | ibot | yes, I know anything. |
| 22:57.55 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | maquis: one sec |
| 22:57.58 | findlay | of course |
| 22:58.41 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | maquis: I'm registered now |
| 22:59.06 | herlo1 | don't do it.... no..... |
| 22:59.36 | dilvie | ops abuse their power? |
| 22:59.41 | *** mode/#utah [+o m{b{2}|[^b{2}]}] by maquis |
| 22:59.52 | macnewbold | maquis: me too! me too! |
| 23:00.15 | maquis | hey... we can't have too many ops now |
| 23:00.24 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | ~/o I've got the power! ~/o |
| 23:00.25 | ibot | ACTION sings with m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} |
| 23:00.25 | maquis | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]}: has a cool nick, at least |
| 23:00.26 | macnewbold | since when is 4 real people too many ops? |
| 23:00.27 | macnewbold | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.29 | maquis | and the @ looks good with it |
| 23:00.59 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | now I'm an array! |
| 23:00.59 | tene | don't op me |
| 23:01.04 | macnewbold | besides, if you do, I'll help you kick ChanServ so there's still only 5 of us |
| 23:01.05 | tene | Yay, a list! |
| 23:01.07 | herlo1 | wow, amazing food |
| 23:01.16 | macnewbold | food? where? |
| 23:01.17 | *** topic/#utah by dilvie -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See openclue.org/ut/, sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com, utaug.org, ubuntu-utah.org | BBQ Sugarhouse Park, Saturday, 29th, 7:30pm |
| 23:01.24 | macnewbold | aha |
| 23:02.12 | *** mode/#utah [-o m{b{2}|[^b{2}]}] by maquis |
| 23:02.26 | maquis | can't have too many untested ops around (or Jayce^ might take my op away) |
| 23:02.39 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | :-( |
| 23:02.52 | tene | tested? |
| 23:03.06 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | hey - I was in here when this channel was first started |
| 23:03.17 | findlay | foreach (@m{b{2}|[^b{2}]}) {$_ = `head -n 5 /dev/urandom`;} |
| 23:03.27 | dilvie | tested = somebody who has ops and never, ever, ever uses them for evil |
| 23:03.39 | maquis | exactly |
| 23:03.55 | maquis | dilvie: except by kicking emcnabb |
| 23:04.25 | findlay | op == cparicious? |
| 23:04.33 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | I should have kicked maquis before she could kick me ;-) |
| 23:04.34 | findlay | s/pa/ap/ |
| 23:04.35 | dilvie | maquis may be very evil, but the question is whether or not he uses his ops to evil ends |
| 23:04.45 | findlay | truly |
| 23:04.48 | dilvie | she? |
| 23:04.55 | dilvie | maquis: are you a she? |
| 23:05.04 | maquis | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]}: except that if you did, i'd come back on, op myself, and kick you |
| 23:05.06 | maquis | dilvie: yes |
| 23:05.09 | levi | Oh, geez, the Yatta! song performed live by a bunch of Japanese guys wearing nothing but 'fig leaves' in front of an audience of thousands of cheering kids. |
| 23:05.14 | levi | My eyes! |
| 23:05.18 | herlo1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.20 | maquis | levi: that sounds really frightning |
| 23:05.26 | findlay | I'm sorry levi |
| 23:05.32 | dilvie | maquis: Oops. =) Sorry for the gender confusion. |
| 23:05.37 | *** kick/#utah [levi!n=maquis@joanna.zmonkey.org] by maquis (for even bringing that topic up) |
| 23:05.43 | maquis | dilvie: not a problem... |
| 23:05.56 | *** join/#utah levi (n=levi@66.239.25.2.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 23:06.05 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | everyone confuses maquis |
| 23:06.13 | dilvie | how many shes are there in #utah? |
| 23:06.20 | levi | Not very many. |
| 23:06.26 | dilvie | didn't think so. |
| 23:06.28 | maquis | dilvie: at the most, 3 |
| 23:06.34 | maquis | (that i know of, at least) |
| 23:06.43 | maquis | at the moment, 1 that i know of |
| 23:06.51 | tene | /nick TeneButFemale |
| 23:07.07 | dilvie | That's usually the case on IRC, but there are some channels where there are more women. |
| 23:08.00 | findlay | ~women #utah |
| 23:08.05 | maquis | silly people that distract me |
| 23:08.07 | findlay | oh sure |
| 23:08.10 | dilvie | =) |
| 23:08.18 | dilvie | maquis: go! |
| 23:08.28 | tene | So, maquis... politics? |
| 23:08.36 | tene | Generic Political Question? |
| 23:08.51 | tene | So, dilvie, did you hear about that thing? |
| 23:09.18 | dilvie | tene: yeah, amazing, eh? |
| 23:09.24 | dilvie | and VERY interesting. |
| 23:09.28 | tene | Completely. |
| 23:09.36 | tene | And that stuff? Wow. |
| 23:09.50 | herlo1 | u guys r punks |
| 23:09.56 | dilvie | haha, tene, this conversation isn't even interesting to me. |
| 23:09.57 | macnewbold | I think there's at least 2 women in #gubug |
| 23:10.22 | tene | Is trying to have an uninteresting conversation an interesting activity? |
| 23:10.44 | dilvie | oh |
| 23:10.46 | dilvie | that reminds me |
| 23:10.52 | dilvie | for no apparent reason whatsoever |
| 23:11.02 | findlay | wow, this is so fascinating |
| 23:11.19 | dilvie | That I need to post the Yan Ots track that I've been grooving out to for days. |
| 23:11.23 | findlay | I have to check my irssi terminal every 2 seconds to make sure I don't miss anything |
| 23:11.30 | levi | I'm totally riveted, too. |
| 23:11.46 | tene | dilvie: post it. |
| 23:11.51 | levi | dilvie: Is it as catchy as Yatta! is? |
| 23:12.02 | tene | levi: sounds painful. You should see a doctor. |
| 23:12.03 | dilvie | Findlay: The moment anything interesting happens, I'll beep you. |
| 23:12.16 | herlo1 | I'm riveted with my dinner. absolutely intense |
| 23:12.29 | dilvie | herlo1: what's for dinner? |
| 23:12.32 | findlay | ~rivet herlo1's dinner |
| 23:12.37 | tene | I didn't know that you could use dinner as rivets. |
| 23:12.42 | findlay | want some bolts with that? |
| 23:12.52 | nick125_lappy | dilvie: theres a #food... |
| 23:12.57 | dilvie | I make a sauce that looks exactly like grease |
| 23:13.09 | dilvie | nick: yeah, but I've traded more recipes here. |
| 23:13.11 | dilvie | eheh |
| 23:13.19 | levi | Does it taste like grease? |
| 23:13.21 | herlo1 | dilvie ruths chris steak shrimp asparagus w/bernaise sauce |
| 23:13.25 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | there needs to be a #utah_for_girls |
| 23:13.31 | m{b{2}|[^b{2}]} | and a #utah_no_girls_allowed |
| 23:13.38 | dilvie | levi: no. More like savory berries |
| 23:13.57 | tene | and a #utah_nobody_allowed |
| 23:14.02 | nick125_lappy | haha |
| 23:14.04 | herlo1 | and for desert: creme brulee |
| 23:14.16 | levi | Hmm. I would have preferred applewood smoked bacon flavor. That's what our cup'o'grease tastes like. |
| 23:14.36 | dilvie | herlo1: I'd make creme brulee, but I don't have any vanilla beans. |
| 23:14.41 | dilvie | ); |
| 23:14.53 | dilvie | I'm going to order some mexican vanilla beans from amazon.com |
| 23:15.06 | nick125_lappy | last time I checked, the only thing I've got here is tv dinners....blah |
| 23:15.14 | dilvie | 6 beans for $10. That's more than it costs to buy pot. |
| 23:15.21 | herlo1 | dilvie: too bad I am so full already, but its worth the pain |
| 23:15.44 | dilvie | $11, actually. |
| 23:16.00 | herlo1 | dilvie: probably. I haven't bought pot in a while |
| 23:16.06 | dilvie | you can buy it cheaper by the pound, but who needs to spend $130 on a pound of vanilla beans? |
| 23:16.23 | herlo1 | restaurants |
| 23:16.29 | dilvie | true. |
| 23:16.33 | herlo1 | mmmm, creme brulee |
| 23:16.48 | levi | http://vanillabeans4u.com/gpage.html3.html |
| 23:16.52 | brac | [BUY NOW] |
| 23:17.15 | herlo1 | ~smack herlo because creme brulee is so good |
| 23:17.17 | ibot | ACTION smacks herlo because creme brulee is so good upside the head. |
| 23:17.45 | xbmodder_newlapp | herlo make me some creme brulee? |
| 23:17.53 | dilvie | levi: I'd rather spend a tiny bit more and get good mexican beans |
| 23:18.14 | herlo1 | I'll mail it from Detroit |
| 23:18.55 | dilvie | you have to eat creme brulee before the caramelized crust gets soggy. |
| 23:18.58 | dilvie | mail is no good. |
| 23:19.15 | xbmodder_newlapp | hm |
| 23:19.19 | herlo1 | http://www.ruthschris.com |
| 23:19.22 | brac | [Ruth's Chris Steak House : Welcome to Prime Steak] |
| 23:19.42 | herlo1 | oh yeah |
| 23:19.52 | xbmodder_newlapp | Why don't you ship yourself, and the ingridients? |
| 23:19.56 | herlo1 | redbeard1 should be here |
| 23:20.03 | levi | dilvie: People who used that site seemed to like the beans from there. Haven't tried them yet myself. |
| 23:20.17 | tene | http://snacksby.com/ |
| 23:20.23 | dilvie | SLC location opening soon |
| 23:20.34 | herlo1 | xbm: off to LA for 2 wks |
| 23:21.12 | herlo1 | dilvie: maybe you should |
| 23:21.26 | dilvie | maybe I should what? |
| 23:21.30 | herlo1 | buy beans |
| 23:21.52 | herlo1 | and make brulee for fall bbq |
| 23:22.09 | herlo1 | if I have my way, that'll happpen |
| 23:22.25 | dilvie | I'll get some beans soon. |
| 23:22.35 | herlo1 | prob in slc or something |
| 23:22.38 | herlo1 | mmm, beans |
| 23:22.40 | dilvie | and I'll certainly use some of them for creme brulee |
| 23:23.24 | herlo1 | oh boy |
| 23:24.29 | herlo1 | I hear the creme brulee here is very good. Its on its way |
| 23:24.30 | herlo1 | its here |
| 23:24.35 | herlo1 | wooohooo |
| 23:25.59 | herlo1 | oh. very good |
| 23:26.00 | dilvie | woohoo! |
| 23:26.32 | herlo1 | crunchy soft |
| 23:26.49 | herlo1 | w/fresh friut on top |
| 23:27.16 | herlo1 | s/friut/fruit |
| 23:31.08 | herlo1 | I so want to lick the bowl |
| 23:31.57 | herlo1 | mmmm, cappucino |
| 23:41.38 | nick125_lappy | I'm hungry...... |
| 23:41.45 | nick125_lappy | and you guys aren't helping |
| 23:42.07 | tene | I'm eating frozen flavored sugar-water. |
