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| 02:06.03 | xbmodder_lappy | hey all |
| 02:06.29 | xbmodder_lappy | or not.. |
| 02:18.51 | emcnabb | not |
| 02:21.18 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, whats up? |
| 02:25.42 | emcnabb | nothing really |
| 02:38.52 | xbmodder_lappy | ~good |
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| 03:15.55 | xbmodder_lappy | life is good :-D |
| 03:27.49 | xbmodder_lappy | vida es bueno |
| 03:29.38 | bertbob | xbmodder: was it you asking how to turn off DMA ? pass ide=nodma at boot |
| 03:32.51 | bertbob | y queda bueoa la vida |
| 03:32.55 | bertbob | buena |
| 03:33.51 | xbmodder_lappy | bertbob, direct memory access (swiotlib) |
| 03:33.55 | xbmodder_lappy | not just ide |
| 03:34.12 | bertbob | oic |
| 03:35.02 | bertbob | or as cervantes would have it, la vida es sueño |
| 03:35.57 | xbmodder_lappy | how do you do accents in linux and stuff? |
| 03:36.12 | bertbob | then I would have to say don't enable it in your kernel |
| 03:39.53 | xbmodder_lappy | yo hablé espanol en tenneesee |
| 03:49.31 | bertbob | one way is to use ascii keycode numbers, like in DOS, and they should be in hex or octal, using echo -e |
| 03:50.24 | bertbob | echo -e \nnn |
| 03:50.51 | bertbob | echo -e \xHH |
| 03:50.53 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 03:50.58 | xbmodder_lappy | I used gnome-character-map |
| 03:51.05 | nick125_ | hmm |
| 03:52.00 | nick125_ | lol |
| 03:52.07 | nick125_ | arch isn't that bad |
| 03:52.23 | nick125_ | it's pretty gentoo-like in a way |
| 03:52.24 | xbmodder_lappy | bertbob, I found almost nobody in tenneeesee knew spanish |
| 03:52.30 | nick125_ | lol |
| 03:52.38 | xbmodder_lappy | but all the californians that had come with us knew spanish |
| 03:52.39 | findlay | tennneeessseee? |
| 03:53.21 | findlay | arch is pretty nice |
| 03:53.31 | xbmodder_lappy | so it was like a secret language |
| 03:53.49 | nick125_ | lol |
| 03:54.04 | bertbob | half the firefighters now fighting wildfires in the southwest speak it natively |
| 03:54.05 | bertbob | LOL |
| 03:54.51 | bertbob | I would laugh if the rethuglicans sent them all home to get visas before they put out the fires threatening their rich buddies homes |
| 03:55.06 | nick125_ | lol |
| 03:55.58 | bertbob | (not really -- fire isn't funny) |
| 03:56.28 | nick125_ | grrrrrrr |
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| 04:27.09 | elg | -lart Tene |
| 04:27.14 | elg | -lart tensai |
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| 04:38.22 | xbmodder_lappy | ~lart elg for larting Tene and tensai |
| 04:42.30 | maquis | ~lart elg |
| 04:46.50 | mheath | Heh, I saved myself today |
| 04:47.09 | mheath | I'm filling out my application for a security clearance |
| 04:47.18 | mheath | I had put down a friend from work. He's Mexican |
| 04:47.41 | mheath | found out today, he's here illegally. That wouldn't have looked good, I think - putting an illegal immigrant down as a reference on a security clearance application |
| 04:51.07 | maquis | mheath: yeah... |
| 04:51.30 | maquis | mheath: what level clearance are you applying for? |
| 04:52.00 | findlay | girls are just too wierd |
| 04:52.13 | mheath | not sure yet, its a generic application |
| 04:52.25 | maquis | findlay: don't despair... what's going on? |
| 04:52.31 | mheath | If I get the a Confidential (I think thats the first level) or Secret, it won't matter |
| 04:52.51 | mheath | they don't check those references much, they really just do a thorough check of your police record for those ones |
| 04:53.17 | findlay | maquis: does that mean you're going to counsel me now? (: |
| 04:53.36 | mheath | Top Secret is when it gets weird. FBI randomly showing up at your references houses, not really telling them why, but questioning them about you |
| 04:53.48 | maquis | mheath: yeah |
| 04:54.18 | mheath | I still can't figure out this silly stuck-till-right-click bug with this synaptics touchpad! Its driving me mad |
| 05:11.49 | levi | findlay: Being married is great until you have kids. ;) |
| 05:12.13 | levi | I guess it's still pretty good, but far more frustrating. |
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| 05:12.57 | levi | findlay: And I've found that baby girls make even less sense than grown ones. |
| 05:13.38 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, try teenage girls |
| 05:13.53 | levi | I will, in about 13 years. |
| 05:14.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I can give you a head start |
| 05:14.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I only have 6 little sisters, grades 9 through 2 |
| 05:14.28 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, I thought it was 8 through 1? |
| 05:14.37 | maquis | findlay: what's the problem? |
| 05:14.41 | ScytheBlade1 | xbmodder_lappy, nope |
| 05:14.45 | levi | Nah, other people's teenage girls are easily ignored. |
| 05:14.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I said give you a head start |
| 05:14.58 | xbmodder_lappy | though my success rate has grown slightly |
| 05:15.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ie, loan/donate a few to you |
| 05:15.17 | xbmodder_lappy | 5 numbers in the past 2 days |
| 05:15.18 | xbmodder_lappy | :-D |
| 05:15.20 | xbmodder_lappy | heh |
| 05:15.31 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, the freshmen ;-) |
| 05:19.50 | xbmodder_lappy | i killed #utah again :-( |
| 05:20.22 | Kuyaedz | way to go |
| 05:20.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Then answer this |
| 05:20.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I need an app that'll let me convert FLAC <--> mp3 |
| 05:23.28 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: spr has an app that does that, i think |
| 05:23.35 | maquis | iirc, it's called oggify.pl |
| 05:24.03 | maquis | actually, i think it only goes FLAC --> mp3 and FLAC --> ogg, but not the other way around |
| 05:24.06 | maquis | i'm not certain though... |
| 05:24.11 | maquis | you should ask him... |
| 05:24.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone in #gentoo just gave me something called |
| 05:24.30 | ScytheBlade1 | ecasound |
| 05:24.58 | Kuyaedz | I use sound converter. Looks like it does ogg, flac, wav & mp3. |
| 05:25.15 | levi | Why would you want to turn mp3 into flac? |
| 05:25.45 | levi | That's a waste of disk space. |
| 05:26.01 | ScytheBlade1 | levi, I wouldn't, but the app in question that I want should have that option |
| 05:26.16 | levi | Why? |
| 05:26.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Because I don't like an app deciding what's right and what's wrong for me |
| 05:26.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Even if I am wrong |
| 05:27.18 | levi | That's a stupid app requirement, but whatever. |
| 05:27.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Lemme rephrase |
| 05:27.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I should be able to select "Convert format X into format Y" |
| 05:27.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Where X and Y are arbitrary formats |
| 05:29.01 | levi | So, find some command-line codecs and pipe them together. |
| 05:29.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Or, I could be lazy |
| 05:29.31 | ScytheBlade1 | And install this app that someone suggested |
| 05:30.16 | levi | Whatever floats your boat. |
| 05:35.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, that's REALLY nice |
| 05:36.09 | ScytheBlade1 | `ecaconvert .mp3 file.flac file2.flac file3.flac` |
| 05:36.13 | ScytheBlade1 | etc. |
| 05:40.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Except that it outputs straight static, fun |
| 05:52.42 | SpecialK | well if you wanted to turn mp3's into FLAC, you probably wouldn't notice the difference ;) |
| 05:52.59 | nick125 | lol, true.. |
| 05:54.20 | nick125 | mp3->flac == no difference in quality |
| 05:56.57 | Kuyaedz | I wonder how long it'd take to convert my 11K mp3 to ogg |
| 06:13.37 | nick125 | Kuyaedz: quite a long time...do one song, take the time, then multiply it by 11K then multiply that by 1.25265 |
| 06:16.29 | Kuyaedz | basically you mean to say 'longer than its worth' :) |
| 06:18.16 | nick125 | probably |
| 06:18.44 | nick125 | then, when you get a iPod or some other device that doesn't read ogg files, you'll spend that time again to convert it back to MP3 |
| 06:19.24 | Kuyaedz | yeah.. I already converted a bunch of them from wma. as much as I like ogg mp3 is just more universal |
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| 06:20.26 | roscivs | Any perl TokeParser gurus around? |
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| 07:19.01 | mheath | Hmm, has Orson Scott Card ever contributed to any open source projects? I get the impression that he's very competent with computers...He's crept up, rather randomly, on some usenet discussions...and he makes several references in the acknowledgements of his books to his "programmer friends" |
| 07:19.25 | mheath | Plus, hiw perception of computer technology and its possibilties for the future is rather accurate, compared to other works of Sci. Fi. |
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| 11:35.56 | emcnabb | good morning #utah |
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| 12:51.19 | Kuyaedz | mornin' |
| 12:51.50 | elg | so far |
| 12:52.26 | Kuyaedz | my damn cat woke me up at 4:00.. been up since :( |
| 12:52.46 | elg | this is when you put a cat outside |
| 12:54.14 | Kuyaedz | I fell asleep on the couch. She knocked a vase off the table & made a huge mess. Understandably I was pissed & mopped it up with her |
| 12:54.26 | Kuyaedz | nobody call PETA on me |
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| 13:17.27 | emcnabb | People Eating Tasty Animals? |
| 13:18.09 | Kuyaedz | that's the one |
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| 15:25.51 | graphyx | hi |
| 15:31.31 | emcnabb | hi |
| 15:31.50 | jsmith | hi |
| 15:31.57 | graphyx | hey how do I use perl and $F to print off a specific item on the read in file from command line? |
| 15:37.44 | macnewbold | $F? |
| 15:41.40 | mrpull | graphyx: can you clarify a bit? |
| 15:42.45 | graphyx | I got it taken care of. |
| 15:42.47 | graphyx | but thanks. |
| 15:42.51 | graphyx | What I wanted was this: |
| 15:43.02 | graphyx | perl -lan -F: -e 'print $F[0]' |
| 15:43.34 | mrpull | what is the $F? that doesn't ring a bell. |
| 15:45.17 | mrpull | field separator? |
| 15:46.45 | graphyx | That is the array autosplit which splits any line read in. |
| 15:46.55 | graphyx | And puts it into the @Farray. |
| 15:47.19 | graphyx | so the print $F[0] prints the first token on the line split by the ":" character. |
| 15:47.40 | mrpull | cool. there's one more example of why I both love and hate Perl. |
| 15:48.02 | mrpull | thanks for the explanation |
| 15:48.09 | graphyx | sure./ |
| 15:52.26 | macnewbold | sounds handy for reading stuff like /etc/passwd, but not much else... |
| 15:52.50 | graphyx | well I was splitting off of a passwordlist to get only the passwords to use a base for brute force logins. |
| 15:53.03 | graphyx | ethical hacking. |
| 15:54.15 | graphyx | but you can change the split character to anything you want with the -F command |
| 15:54.22 | graphyx | so you could use it to split the line by anything. |
| 15:55.16 | macnewbold | so that could be handy for CSV or tab-delimited files |
| 15:55.23 | graphyx | indeed |
| 15:55.28 | graphyx | Whatever you delimit lines wiht. |
| 15:56.08 | mrpull | gothcha. i generally will spell things out in the long form rather than use the one liners. it just makes more sense in my simple mind. |
| 15:57.08 | macnewbold | it makes more sense in lots of minds... a lot of perl code is chmod a-r, if you know what I mean. But as long as you don't need to use it more than an 30 minutes after you wrote it, that's not a problem usually... |
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| 17:20.19 | graphyx | ok you linux gurus |
| 17:20.28 | graphyx | I started a long process on command line. |
| 17:20.38 | graphyx | I want to redict the result to a file, but don't want to restart the process. |
| 17:20.59 | graphyx | Is there a way to bring it to foregroup and then redirect the output to a file? |
| 17:21.03 | graphyx | wihtout restarting it? |
| 17:21.57 | tensai | I don't think so |
| 17:22.17 | elg | any opinions on ufs or hfs+ for osx/linux? |
| 17:26.18 | tensai | elg: vfat+umsdos |
| 17:31.50 | elg | i wish there was a modern filesystem that all three could read and write |
| 17:31.56 | elg | something with permissions and journaling |
| 17:35.05 | graphyx | youwould think that they could get something that simple all over. |
| 17:35.50 | elg | and large filesystem support. what's the limit on vfat 32G? |
| 17:36.01 | graphyx | sounds right. |
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| 19:18.17 | xbmodder_lappy | whats the difference between turqoise and blue? |
| 19:19.26 | QBFreak | turqoise is closer to cyan? |
| 19:21.59 | xbmodder_lappy | I use RGB |
| 19:22.30 | xbmodder_lappy | ~hug maquis |
| 19:22.33 | ibot | ACTION hugs maquis |
| 19:24.06 | levi | Turquoise is the color of the eponymous mineral, while blue is a primary color. |
| 19:29.18 | xbmodder_lappy | thanks |
| 19:29.30 | xbmodder_lappy | Can I /usr/share/dict/words in spanish? |
| 19:45.23 | bertbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.27 | bertbob | 0 0 255 blue |
| 19:46.03 | bertbob | according to /etc/X11/rgb.txt |
| 19:47.15 | levi | Huh, that turquoise is more green than blue. |
| 19:47.48 | bertbob | yes, although there are lots of variations of each in the file |
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| 20:08.32 | xbmodder_lappy | awesome is a anagram of itself? |
| 20:08.36 | xbmodder_lappy | who knew |
| 20:09.11 | levi | Uh. |
| 20:10.38 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: Why don't you think about that one a little bit? |
| 20:11.18 | xbmodder_lappy | I am making fun of this permutation/anagram finding function I wrote |
| 20:11.28 | xbmodder_lappy | It came upon the same permutation twice :-/ |
| 20:11.51 | levi | Did it really, or are you missing something? |
| 20:12.10 | bertbob | if you accept schwa as a I suppose, upside down and backwards, it could work |
| 20:12.41 | xbmodder_lappy | it did |
| 20:12.57 | xbmodder_lappy | if you wanna see the code (it is blinding) just ask |
| 20:13.05 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: How do you define 'the same permutation'? |
| 20:13.31 | xbmodder_lappy | the program is supposed to find every unique iteration of the word |
| 20:13.54 | levi | You are probably finding every rearrangement of the letters instead. |
| 20:14.04 | xbmodder_lappy | for some reason it wasn't filtering the non-unique iterations |
| 20:14.08 | xbmodder_lappy | so, yeah... |
| 20:14.09 | levi | And the word has two 'e's. |
| 20:14.28 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah, I fixed that, made it into a list and then sorted and filtered. |
| 20:15.10 | bertbob | so anagram is triply anagrammatic? LOL |
| 20:15.29 | xbmodder_lappy | bertbob, i think you confused me |
| 20:15.49 | xbmodder_lappy | wow |
| 20:15.52 | xbmodder_lappy | thats evil |
| 20:16.01 | SpecialK | http://www.physorg.com/news68107878.html |
| 20:24.58 | xbmodder_lappy | >>> getAnagrams('anagram',lang='en') |
| 20:24.58 | xbmodder_lappy | anagram |
| 20:25.00 | xbmodder_lappy | anagram |
| 20:32.46 | dilvie | no anagrams allowed here. |
| 20:32.53 | dilvie | hehe |
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| 20:58.44 | goozbach | yay for airplanes |
| 21:02.09 | goozbach | ~front |
| 21:02.15 | ibot | ACTION grabs the mike and drops rhymes like bombs in the style of frontAlot(http://www.frontalot.com) |
| 21:02.47 | goozbach | ~about time |
| 21:03.41 | goozbach | the world's 579th greatest raper |
| 21:04.58 | goozbach | ~boring |
| 21:04.59 | ibot | yes, you are goozbach |
| 21:06.25 | goozbach | ~ibot your? |
| 21:06.27 | ibot | well, your is the possessive of you, and is not "you're", which means "you are" |
| 21:06.57 | goozbach | ~you're |
| 21:41.51 | lars-ut | just finished the install w/ software RAID 1 on 2 IDE drives |
| 21:42.37 | lars-ut | I figured having the optical drive on the same channel was the initial cause of slowness during the install process, but I didconeected the optical drive before reboot. |
| 21:43.01 | lars-ut | yikes. s/didconeected/disconnected |
| 21:44.00 | lars-ut | "Calculating Module Dependencies" has taken about 15 minutes so far |
| 21:50.44 | xbmodder_lappy | how do I manually pass the PCIID of the card to the e1000 module? |
| 22:02.24 | findlay | lars-ut: that's wiered |
| 22:02.31 | findlay | rd |
| 22:03.32 | lars-ut | maybe it was because there was not yet a swapfile? |
| 22:04.43 | lars-ut | findlay: it is only after module detection that the mountpoints within raditab are mounted & swap created |
| 22:06.10 | xbmodder_lappy | pagcorp ~ # uptime |
| 22:06.10 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.10 | xbmodder_lappy | pagcorp ~ # |
| 22:07.40 | lars-ut | maybe the array is syncing for the first time |
| 22:09.31 | findlay | lars-ut: is it still waiting? |
| 22:10.48 | lars-ut | yep. |
| 22:10.54 | lars-ut | it has progressed though. |
| 22:11.20 | lars-ut | "Starting hotplug subsystem: pci" |
| 22:14.24 | jsmith-away | lars-ut: Sounds like your machine has serious issues... |
| 22:14.50 | jsmith-away | lars-ut: I had a box like that once -- had to completely turn off ACPI in the bios to get it to work at a decent speed. |
| 22:23.10 | lars-ut | jsmith: I've got 2 options for ACPI, and SCPI may be the culprit , I think the option were 'POS' & 'STR' |
| 22:23.34 | jsmith | lars-ut: There should be way to completely turn of ACPI |
| 22:23.35 | lars-ut | s/SCPI/ACPI |
| 22:23.52 | lars-ut | it's still enabled at this point because boot msgs reference it |
| 22:28.49 | lars-ut | kernel modules still being loaded... I'm going to reboot anyway. |
| 22:36.11 | bertbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.23 | lars-ut | jsmith: looks like PIO is bening used instead of DMA as well |
| 22:37.28 | lars-ut | grrr |
| 22:37.39 | lars-ut | I added acpi=off to the boot |
| 22:38.01 | lars-ut | seems to have sped things up a bit |
| 22:38.10 | jsmith | Ok, let me know how that goes... |
| 22:38.15 | lars-ut | thx |
| 22:38.34 | findlay | lars-ut: I have a box like that too |
| 22:39.02 | findlay | it takes a really long time to boot sometimes, but it works fine once it's booted |
| 22:39.12 | findlay | I haven't learned why yet |
| 22:41.56 | lars-ut | findlay: it's wasting me time - I expect the box to bend to my will - not the other way around |
| 22:55.25 | Kuyaedz | any suggestions for webcam apps? |
| 23:00.52 | xbmodder_lappy | bertbob, :-| |
| 23:04.36 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.02 | nick125 | stupid forced kernel upgrade -_- |
| 23:05.08 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 23:05.19 | nick125 | (okay, it wasn't forced, but, I couldn't compile any new kernel modules) |
| 23:06.00 | xbmodder_lappy | whats wrong with your chipset of ide-isms? |
| 23:07.17 | lars-ut | slow boot monster - I choose you! |
| 23:12.07 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 23:12.24 | *** join/#utah synic (n=squish@pdpc/supporter/student/synic) |
| 23:30.55 | lars-ut | looks like I'm taking this box home |
| 23:31.15 | lars-ut | it better be done before Xmen 3... |
| 23:31.58 | lars-ut | otherwise it'll interfere w/me chi & I'll really have to open up a can on it. |
| 23:39.51 | nick125 | I think they had my line working good for around..25 minutes or less |
| 23:39.54 | nick125 | I actually got 46ms pings to first hop.. |
| 23:40.52 | nick125 | right after that covad ATM outage.. |
| 23:49.42 | xbmodder_lappy | I used pepper spray as tabasco |
| 23:49.46 | xbmodder_lappy | this should be a head turner |
| 23:50.33 | xbmodder_lappy | prolly over-suscribtions |
| 23:52.40 | nick125 | I'm on hold while speakeasy calls covad and see what's up with my line.. |
| 23:52.57 | xbmodder_lappy | time for some gokev videos |
| 23:53.03 | nick125 | lol |
| 23:53.34 | nick125 | why do you need gokev videos when you can watch #archlinux try to figure out what cooties are? |
| 23:54.42 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: so, the move to HE is still on, right? |
| 23:54.59 | xbmodder_lappy | carrabas! |
| 23:55.15 | nick125 | haha |
| 23:55.18 | nick125 | I rememeber that :p |
| 23:55.35 | xbmodder_lappy | OH FRICK FRICK FRICK |
| 23:55.43 | xbmodder_lappy | I got some in my eyes |
| 23:55.51 | nick125 | nice |
| 23:55.52 | xbmodder_lappy | ~lart eyes |
| 23:56.39 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: you should watch this in #archlinux |
| 23:57.50 | nick125 | the guy from speakeasy told me that covad has him on hold waiting for some senior tech or something |
| 23:59.51 | xbmodder_lappy | i love how he dances out |