irclog2html for #utah on 20060413

`00:01.31`	`elg`	`de gustibus`
`00:34.34`	`elg`	`-lart ibot`
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`00:49.38`	`maquis`	`-lart elg`
`00:49.56`	`elg`	`mmm, traction`
`00:53.28`	`Jayce^`	`maquis should be at nupm/plug`
`00:54.42`	`maquis`	`Jayce^: i wish...`
`00:54.58`	`Jayce^`	`discussing quantum physics and OO programming`
`00:55.12`	`maquis`	`i wish i was there...`
`00:55.19`	`maquis`	`unfortunately, i need to pass my classes`
`00:56.02`	`Jayce^`	`bah`
`01:01.20`	`elg`	`~seen jsmith`
`01:01.22`	`ibot`	`jsmith <n=jsmith@67.151.170.167> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 18h 50m 38s ago, saying: 'That's why I'm still up at 2:10am working'.`
`01:02.59`	`maquis`	`ick`
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`01:15.59`	`bertbob`	`ircII in X does splits or opens a new xterm for each channel is you tell it to...and that WAY old`
`01:17.17`	`bertbob`	`in other words it's not a feature of BitchX or irssi but of irc itself`
`01:22.26`	`Jayce^`	`hello gthornock`
`01:22.38`	`gthornock`	`hello`
`01:28.14`	`harleypig`	`Where is everyone! How come your not at plug?`
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`01:34.11`	`mheath`	`Hm, my server isn't liking that RAM, I think.....`
`01:36.13`	`mheath`	`bbiab`
`01:37.17`	`gthornock`	`harleypig: we /are/ at plug`
`01:38.18`	`jsmith`	`PLUG meeting tonight?`
`01:38.25`	`jsmith`	`Once again, I'm out of town and missing it`
`01:38.54`	`harleypig`	`gthornock: heh`
`01:41.20`	`maquis`	`harleypig: you volunteering to do my homework so i can be at plug?`
`01:41.37`	`harleypig`	`maquis: what class?`
`01:41.44`	`maquis`	`harleypig: machine learning`
`01:41.57`	`maquis`	`networking could use some help too...`
`01:42.00`	`harleypig`	`maquis: naw ...`
`01:42.20`	`maquis`	`:(`
`01:42.30`	`harleypig`	`sorry :]`
`01:44.41`	`Jayce^`	`jsmith, you're missing sjansen blabbering about context`
`01:45.08`	`elg`	`yay my cable came`
`01:45.16`	`elg`	`anyone got a radeon 7000 doing tv out?`
`01:45.24`	`elg`	`or any ati card`
`01:45.25`	`jsmith`	`Jayce^: Hmmmmn.... wish he'd write me a good DocBook stylesheet instead....`
`01:45.26`	`maquis`	`-cable elg`
`01:45.38`	`Jayce^`	`we'll tell him`
`01:45.38`	`elg`	`Jayce^: did you remember the tomatoes?`
`01:45.44`	`jsmith`	`elg: My powerbook has an ATI card ;-)`
`01:45.55`	`jsmith`	`Jayce^: I'm sure he'll appreciate that...`
`01:46.04`	`Jayce^`	`elg, got a bunch of spree and sweetart packages to throw`
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`01:59.34`	`maquis`	`-lart Newsome`
`01:59.43`	`Newsome`	`hey!`
`01:59.46`	`Newsome`	`that's evil`
`02:00.16`	`Newsome`	`they replace me yet?`
`02:00.28`	`maquis`	`Newsome: i don't think so...`
`02:00.32`	`maquis`	`haven't heard for certain`
`02:00.32`	`Newsome`	`haha`
`02:00.44`	`Jayce^`	`Too many other places hiring too`
`02:01.57`	`emcnabb`	`~lart Jayce^`
`02:02.04`	`Jayce^`	`~beat emcnabb`
`02:02.06`	`ibot`	`ACTION beats emcnabb with a wetfish`
`02:02.18`	`emcnabb`	`~slay Jayce^`
`02:02.19`	`ibot`	`ACTION brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Jayce^!" apt lops off Jayce^'s head.`
`02:02.19`	`Jayce^`	`so why aren't you here?`
`02:02.19`	`maquis`	`~hug emcnabb`
`02:02.20`	`ibot`	`ACTION hugs emcnabb`
`02:02.29`	`emcnabb`	`me?`
`02:02.34`	`emcnabb`	`where?`
`02:02.34`	`Jayce^`	`~fart emcnabb`
`02:02.35`	`ibot`	`ACTION farts in emcnabb's general direction`
`02:02.36`	`Jayce^`	`plug`
`02:02.51`	`Newsome`	`emcnabb: you still here in Chicago?`
`02:02.55`	`emcnabb`	`I'm in Chicago; why don't you have the meeting out here this week?`
`02:02.57`	`emcnabb`	`yeah`
`02:03.06`	`Jayce^`	`bah, weak`
`02:03.08`	`Newsome`	`how long are you here?`
`02:03.09`	`emcnabb`	`went to my grandma's in Mount Prospect tonight`
`02:03.12`	`emcnabb`	`Friday`
`02:03.17`	`emcnabb`	`it was nice to see her`
`02:03.22`	`Newsome`	`cool`
`02:04.32`	`maquis`	`wha?`
`02:04.35`	`maquis`	`stupid thing!`
`02:04.38`	`maquis`	`ok`
`02:04.48`	`maquis`	`i've got a process that won't die with kill -9`
`02:04.57`	`Newsome`	`what state is it in?`
`02:05.05`	`emcnabb`	`D?`
`02:05.07`	`emcnabb`	`Z?`
`02:05.09`	`maquis`	`actually... it claims to be dead now`
`02:05.17`	`maquis`	`but it isn't showing as dead`
`02:05.23`	`maquis`	`it's still got the terminal occupied`
`02:05.36`	`maquis`	`i can't figure out why`
`02:05.42`	`emcnabb`	`is there any way to kill a process in uninterruptible sleep?`
`02:05.51`	`emcnabb`	`I have yet to find a way`
`02:06.18`	`maquis`	`emcnabb: dunno... i'm just trying to make something stop taking a terminal (or to make the terminal go away inside of screen)`
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`02:06.48`	`Newsome`	`nope. You'd have to modify the process table`
`02:07.22`	`emcnabb`	`same with Zombies too, right?`
`02:07.44`	`Newsome`	`right`
`02:08.00`	`tensai`	`but zombies are dead, they just haven't been reaped yet`
`02:08.14`	`emcnabb`	`yeah, but it would be nice to clear them out of the process list`
`02:08.26`	`emcnabb`	`even though they're not using any resources`
`02:08.36`	`maquis`	`why won't it die?`
`02:08.47`	`bigdog_ut`	`maquis, you dont have a machete`
`02:08.58`	`maquis`	`bigdog_ut: but... it's not a zombie`
`02:09.05`	`maquis`	`at least i don't think so`
`02:09.13`	`maquis`	`zombies still show up in the process list`
`02:09.23`	`maquis`	`this one's the opposite of a zombie or something`
`02:09.42`	`tensai`	`~cut maquis`
`02:10.06`	`bigdog_ut`	`~chop maquis`
`02:10.42`	`Newsome`	`maquis: try lsof -p <pid>`
`02:11.08`	`maquis`	`Newsome: nothing`
`02:11.09`	`tensai`	`Newsome: did Dr Hays retire? if so, when?`
`02:11.20`	`maquis`	`but that might be due to the fact that the pid doesn't exist anymore`
`02:11.24`	`Newsome`	`tensai: yes, a couple years ago`
`02:11.32`	`Newsome`	`maquis: where is it still showing up, then?`
`02:11.42`	`maquis`	`it's still taking the terminal it was in`
`02:11.47`	`maquis`	`and the terminal is inside of screen`
`02:12.02`	`maquis`	`and i'm not sure how to kill just that one terminal or reclaim it or anything`
`02:12.33`	`tensai`	`^A k`
`02:13.16`	`maquis`	`tensai: thanks`
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`02:27.39`	`Jayce^`	`ah, another slacker mcnabb`
`02:27.47`	`amcnabb`	`yep`
`02:27.53`	`amcnabb`	`Big slacker`
`02:28.28`	`emcnabb`	`~lart Jayce^`
`02:28.39`	`emcnabb`	`oh my`
`02:28.45`	`emcnabb`	`ibot, you're strange`
`02:28.49`	`Jayce^`	`~lart emcnabb`
`02:28.57`	`harleypig`	`I'll be princ charming`
`02:29.16`	`QBFreak`	`I heard on the scanner yesterday that someone wanted the police to come take a report, their child had been bitten by a squirrel`
`02:30.25`	`nick125`	`lol`
`02:31.38`	`Newsome`	`Whatcha gonna do when they come for you!`
`02:31.49`	`QBFreak`	`hurl nuts!`
`02:32.16`	`emcnabb`	`I'd pay $20 to watch harleypig give Jayce^ a big wet kiss`
`02:32.40`	`Jayce^`	`emcnabb, you are all sorts of sick`
`02:32.55`	`harleypig`	`:D Make $100 each`
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`02:33.07`	`Jayce^`	`kiss my @#$`
`02:33.10`	`harleypig`	`err ... Make it $100 each.`
`02:33.12`	`Newsome`	`hmm... I seem to remember a news story... wonder if I can find it...`
`02:33.16`	`harleypig`	`naw ... that's too much`
`02:33.58`	`emcnabb`	`harleypig: I'll up it if I can take a picture`
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`02:34.21`	`harleypig`	`tempting`
`02:34.31`	`Jayce^`	`emcnabb, no wonder you got along with xbmodder_`
`02:34.32`	`Jayce^`	`:)`
`02:34.42`	`harleypig`	`that's not nice`
`02:34.46`	`emcnabb`	`ouch`
`02:34.47`	`harleypig`	`:]`
`02:34.58`	`emcnabb`	`I actually don't get along with him`
`02:35.35`	`maquis`	`cough`
`02:36.20`	`jsmith`	`sneeze?`
`02:36.40`	`emcnabb`	`fart`
`02:36.52`	`Jayce^`	`burp`
`02:37.42`	`vontrapp`	`splat`
`02:38.03`	`harleypig`	`burble`
`02:38.34`	`vontrapp`	`any ideas how to determine where an error is occuring in spyce?`
`02:38.59`	`harleypig`	`Chec the preceding lines for a missed period.`
`02:39.07`	`harleypig`	`Oh, wait ...`
`02:39.09`	`harleypig`	`that's cobol`
`02:39.30`	`Jayce^`	`spice? the space folds incorrectly and you wind up in the wrong spot`
`02:39.50`	`harleypig`	`Mua'dib!`
`02:40.16`	`Jayce^`	`mmm, blue blue eyes`
`02:40.33`	`harleypig`	`day-glo blue`
`02:40.49`	`vontrapp`	`song song blue`
`02:41.07`	`vontrapp`	`there's gotta be a log here somewhere...`
`02:41.23`	`Jayce^`	`hey, that actually works :)`
`02:41.42`	`vontrapp`	`they're using the standard logging module`
`02:41.47`	`vontrapp`	`however standard that would be`
`02:41.58`	`harleypig`	`looog loog ... It's log!`
`02:42.07`	`Jayce^`	`It's BIG..`
`02:42.10`	`Jayce^`	`It's Heavy`
`02:42.14`	`Jayce^`	`it's .. WOOD`
`02:42.24`	`vontrapp`	`it's on Jayce^'s head!`
`02:42.26`	`jsmith`	`rofl`
`02:42.30`	`vontrapp`	`~log Jayce^`
`02:42.47`	`Jayce^`	`man, you're missing that in the middle of plug meeting`
`02:43.08`	`vontrapp`	`forgot about it`
`02:43.08`	`Jayce^`	`~poke gthornock and get him to sing`
`02:43.09`	`ibot`	`ACTION grabs a syringe`
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`02:43.35`	`gthornock`	`Jayce^: Not likely`
`02:43.36`	`Jayce^`	`so neybar, what'd you christen the new box?`
`02:43.40`	`neybar`	`man... this presenter is sooo dry...`
`02:43.59`	`Jayce^`	`blah blah blah... literate programming... blah blah`
`02:43.59`	`harleypig`	`;D`
`02:44.03`	`Jayce^`	`javadoc.... blah blah`
`02:44.11`	`vontrapp`	`lol`
`02:44.16`	`Jayce^`	`so, who is going to show sjansen the logs after this?`
`02:44.44`	`Jayce^`	`now it's harleypig's turn to bust out in the log song`
`02:44.48`	`neybar`	`I haven't named it yet`
`02:45.24`	`harleypig`	`I'd forgotten all about that one.`
`02:45.33`	`harleypig`	`I started the log song`
`02:45.39`	`mheath`	`=\`
`02:46.03`	`jsmith`	`So, has anyone asked sjansen the obvious question?`
`02:46.08`	`Jayce^`	`"Normally it doesn't render that fast"... "Except I whacked everything beforehand"... sjansen`
`02:46.22`	`Jayce^`	`jsmith, "Why the beard?"`
`02:46.30`	`harleypig`	`jsmith: what obvious quesiotn?`
`02:46.38`	`jsmith`	`Jayce^: Good one...`
`02:46.42`	`harleypig`	`s/iotn/tion/`
`02:47.03`	`jsmith`	`harleypig: Isn't TeX for long-haired unshaved Unix hippies...um, uh... never mind.`
`02:47.11`	`Jayce^`	`lol`
`02:47.19`	`mheath`	`whoops`
`02:47.23`	`mheath`	`time for my run`
`02:47.25`	`harleypig`	`:D`
`02:47.35`	`mheath`	`Down in the valley.....`
`02:47.37`	`mheath`	`I heard a might roar`
`02:47.42`	`mheath`	`It was the mighty mheath`
`02:47.47`	`mheath`	`Using #utah as a toy`
`02:47.52`	`Jayce^`	`"I would point out that I keep my hair relatively short...."`
`02:47.53`	`mheath`	`Anyway, be back in a bit`
`02:47.55`	`Jayce^`	`sjansen`
`02:48.16`	`Jayce^`	`there is your answer jsmith`
`02:48.38`	`mheath`	`Tell sjansen that, no matter where he goes, mheath will be watching him. And randomly discussing the Marine Corp.`
`02:48.58`	`mheath`	`I have an mheath-over-IRC bridge, you see.`
`02:49.01`	`mheath`	`Jayce^.`
`02:49.03`	`jsmith`	`Jayce^: The other obvious question is "Is it easy to change that font from the the 'I obviously wrote this in TeX' default font?"`
`02:49.18`	`Jayce^`	`jsmith, already covered that`
`02:49.23`	`vontrapp`	`it's a TeX presentation?`
`02:49.28`	`jsmith`	`Cool... too bad I'm not there`
`02:49.31`	`Jayce^`	`ConTeXt`
`02:49.53`	`Jayce^`	`the rebuttal from the LaTeX meeting from the other month`
`02:50.41`	`Jayce^`	`and humble`
`02:50.47`	`neybar`	`rawr`
`02:51.14`	`neybar`	`is it bleeding yet?`
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`02:51.41`	`harleypig`	`does whisper still work in irc?`
`02:52.09`	`harleypig`	`doesn't look like it`
`02:52.11`	`mheath`	`anyway, you distracting people`
`02:55.38`	`harleypig`	`anyone know what software I would install to make my integrated camera work?`
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`02:56.19`	`maquis`	`~lart sunburn`
`02:57.08`	`harleypig`	`~lart maquis for getting sunburned instead of doing her homework`
`02:57.35`	`maquis`	`not my fault`
`02:57.43`	`maquis`	`i had to go to tennis class today`
`02:58.23`	`harleypig`	`uh huh ... go ahead ... try to make excuses.`
`02:59.15`	`maquis`	`~flog harleypig`
`02:59.16`	`ibot`	`ACTION hog-ties harleypig and starts the heavy punishment with a cat-o-nine-tails.`
`03:03.52`	`maquis`	`harleypig: are those the letters of the day on sesame street?`
`03:04.18`	`harleypig`	`:D I've seen some videos on the web that might indicate that ...`
`03:05.39`	`Hhhhhh`	`ROFL!!! => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand`
`03:07.09`	`emcnabb`	`Sealand rocks`
`03:08.13`	`Hhhhhh`	`I just need a few Molotov bombs, an AK-47 (that I could buy in Cedar City), and a few hand grenades, and I'd take it over`
`03:08.25`	`emcnabb`	`all hail Prince Roy`
`03:08.45`	`Hhhhhh`	`I'd scourge the land, kill their males and keep their females captive`
`03:08.55`	`Hhhhhh`	`a la Nebuchadnezzar`
`03:09.49`	`emcnabb`	`um, that would be "male" and "female"`
`03:10.06`	`Hhhhhh`	`that's what I said`
`03:11.07`	`emcnabb`	`you made it plural`
`03:12.11`	`emcnabb`	`last I heard only he and his wife lived there`
`03:12.29`	`emcnabb`	`the kids moved away several years ago`
`03:14.25`	`harleypig`	`maquis: It's a guy thing`
`03:17.09`	`findlay`	`~weaponry`
`03:17.48`	`*** part/#utah jsmith (n=jsmith@67.151.170.235)`
`03:18.37`	`QBFreak`	`Hhhhhh: the thing with taking it over is then you constantly have to be on the look out for someone to do the same to you`
`03:18.42`	`QBFreak`	`especially the original owners`
`03:18.48`	`QBFreak`	`inhabitants`
`03:19.49`	`Hhhhhh`	`nah`
`03:20.05`	`Hhhhhh`	`I just wanna take it over, hang out there for a couple of days and then leave`
`03:20.09`	`Hhhhhh`	`and come back to the US`
`03:20.16`	`QBFreak`	`I see`
`03:20.31`	`Hhhhhh`	`I just wanna take it over so I cann feel the 13370rx`
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`03:21.08`	`griffeymac`	`Hi folks!`
`03:21.36`	`tensai`	`~whaleslap griffeymac`
`03:21.37`	`ibot`	`ACTION beats griffeymac upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh`
`03:21.54`	`griffeymac`	`:)`
`03:21.59`	`tensai`	`:D`
`03:22.19`	`griffeymac`	`I'll accept my beatings...`
`03:23.42`	`griffeymac`	`('Cause goodness knows I'm not passing this test on Friday...)`
`03:24.29`	`emcnabb`	`~lart griffeymac`
`03:24.51`	`griffeymac`	`My mojo?`
`03:24.55`	`emcnabb`	`~lart griffeymac`
`03:25.02`	`emcnabb`	`that's better`
`03:25.18`	`griffeymac`	`Why not just kill me when I'm on the crapper?`
`03:25.45`	`QBFreak`	`http://www.gcfl.net/archive.php?funny=20060412`
`03:26.09`	`QBFreak`	`IRS theme song`
`03:27.05`	`maquis`	`griffeymac: i'm sure you'll pass the test... emcnabb's a good teacher, and you want to learn the material...`
`03:27.31`	`mheath`	`Wait, whoever posted that article about Sealand a bit ago....`
`03:27.36`	`mheath`	`I just got a brilliant idea`
`03:27.47`	`mheath`	`I should write to their king and offer to join the Sealand Guard =P LMAO.`
`03:27.57`	`emcnabb`	`hire mheath to invade the island!`
`03:28.12`	`QBFreak`	`double-agent mheath!`
`03:28.28`	`mheath`	`haha`
`03:28.29`	`mheath`	`Wow`
`03:28.37`	`mheath`	`They actually have a "buy a title" feature on their website`
`03:28.37`	`emcnabb`	`all his base are belong to us`
`03:28.45`	`mheath`	`Lord mheath of sealand`
`03:29.31`	`tensai`	`I don't think the marines would look lightly upon joining a foreign army`
`03:30.01`	`emcnabb`	`he would be THE foreign army`
`03:30.22`	`emcnabb`	`mheath: you could order yourself around all day`
`03:30.41`	`Hhhhhh`	`mheath: "have fun! it's an order!"`
`03:30.52`	`mheath`	`tensai, Nah, its not an officially recognized country. Thats the great part =P`
`03:31.08`	`Hhhhhh`	`hmm`
`03:32.17`	`emcnabb`	`al qaeda isn't an officially organized country, but you probably don't want to join their "army"`
`03:32.43`	`griffeymac`	`Oh my goodness.`
`03:32.48`	`griffeymac`	`Phew.`
`03:33.02`	`griffeymac`	`maquis: I don't doubt emcnabb's savvy as a teacher.`
`03:33.13`	`griffeymac`	`And I love the material.`
`03:33.25`	`griffeymac`	`But my glass is still more than half-empty.`
`03:33.39`	`tensai`	`emcnabb: careful what you say. the "little girls" might be listening.`
`03:33.46`	`griffeymac`	`But it's fun, and my job doesn't depend on it, so when it comes right down to it, I don't care.`
`03:33.51`	`emcnabb`	`tensai: true :-)`
`03:34.02`	`mheath`	`Its odd`
`03:34.06`	`mheath`	`I can be a Lord of sealand`
`03:34.10`	`mheath`	`and still not have a sealand passport`
`03:34.11`	`griffeymac`	`(I mean, I do care... Uh..)`
`03:34.17`	`mheath`	`and still not be authorized to visit sealand :`
`03:34.18`	`mheath`	`:(`
`03:34.38`	`emcnabb`	`ECHELON... do you read me?`
`03:35.25`	`maquis`	`by the logic in emcnabb's quit message, i can be an fbi agent! (ok... maybe i need to be younger... but i'm close, at least)`
`03:35.56`	`maquis`	`griffeymac: is you job paying for it?`
`03:36.01`	`mheath`	`I did it.`
`03:36.03`	`tensai`	`maquis: wouldn't you be in the "women are men" category?`
`03:36.15`	`mheath`	`I just sent an e-mail tot he Prince Regent of Sealand asking permission to join their Royal guard =P`
`03:36.17`	`griffeymac`	`maquis: they did.`
`03:36.17`	`mheath`	`lmao`
`03:36.22`	`emcnabb`	`isn't ECHELON the name of the government's device that supposedly listening to a large percentage of net traffic?`
`03:36.33`	`maquis`	`tensai: depends on what age distinguishes between a little girl and a woman...`
`03:36.36`	`maquis`	`griffeymac: that's nice!`
`03:36.57`	`griffeymac`	`maquis: I like Linux. They like insects and don't know Linux from, well, Volkswagons.`
`03:37.28`	`maquis`	`griffeymac: so, how'd you get them to pay for it?`
`03:37.36`	`tensai`	`emcnabb: yeah, the new carnivore`
`03:38.05`	`tensai`	`I guarantee there isn't one deployed in my datacenters, fwiw`
`03:38.29`	`maquis`	`tensai: thats good to know...`
`03:39.06`	`QBFreak`	`so..I got a paypal scam thing and the site hasn't been shut down yet, I know the url the login posts to and the name of the form fields`
`03:39.16`	`QBFreak`	`anyone know of a good garbage word generator?`
`03:39.33`	`QBFreak`	`I wanna fill their database with crap...`
`03:39.39`	`tensai`	`QBFreak: heh. what about /usr/share/dict/words.`
`03:39.40`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: there's some sort of automated password generator for linu`
`03:39.41`	`maquis`	`x`
`03:39.49`	`tensai`	`oh, yeah. I use pwgen.`
`03:39.56`	`maquis`	`yeah`
`03:40.06`	`griffeymac`	`maquis: there was some money that "had to be spent". I probably shouldn't be talking about it. But to be honest, I probably shouldn't be talking about this at all.`
`03:40.07`	`tensai`	`or /dev/urandom`
`03:40.19`	`maquis`	`griffeymac: i'm glad you get to go`
`03:40.31`	`tensai`	`griffeymac: fyi, ibot keeps logs`
`03:40.34`	`tensai`	`~logs`
`03:40.35`	`ibot`	`apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian \| lines that start with a space are not shown \| some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly"`
`03:40.59`	`griffeymac`	`Hmmm. At this point, I'd be irritated if I were emcnabb.`
`03:41.06`	`maquis`	`??`
`03:41.12`	`griffeymac`	`Or at the very least "concerned."`
`03:41.16`	`maquis`	`emcnabb irritated?`
`03:41.36`	`griffeymac`	`Okay, maybe I'm making too much.`
`03:41.38`	`maquis`	`only time i've seen emcnabb upset was april fools a couple years ago...`
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`03:42.11`	`maquis`	`uh oh...`
`03:42.13`	`maquis`	`mcnabb overload`
`03:42.14`	`emcnabb`	`look who decides to show up`
`03:42.26`	`tensai`	`run for the hills! it's like the crickets but worse!`
`03:42.42`	`emcnabb`	`~lart all`
`03:42.49`	`emcnabb`	`ibot: perfect!`
`03:42.50`	`ibot`	`There is no such thing as absolute perfection. Perfection is completely subjective. [with the possible exception of Debian.] See Debian.`
`03:42.58`	`griffeymac`	`What's lart?`
`03:43.03`	`tensai`	`~lart`
`03:43.06`	`maquis`	`luser attitude readjustment toolkit`
`03:43.27`	`griffeymac`	`Ah.`
`03:43.34`	`emcnabb`	`http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/L/LART.html`
`03:43.35`	`brac`	`[LART]`
`03:44.21`	`griffeymac`	`Wow. And OS X lets me click on that link. :)`
`03:44.33`	`griffeymac`	`(It's almost as useful as Linux! :D)`
`03:44.59`	`QBFreak`	`gnome-terminal lets me click links`
`03:45.01`	`griffeymac`	`Ah, the BOFH. I should have known. ;)`
`03:45.11`	`emcnabb`	`well lady and gentlemen, I'm off to bed`
`03:45.12`	`emcnabb`	`night`
`03:45.19`	`QBFreak`	`later emcnabb`
`03:46.21`	`griffeymac`	`Good night, uh, boss.`
`03:47.23`	`maquis`	`emcnabb: gnight`
`03:48.36`	`griffeymac`	`How 'bout them Bulls?`
`03:49.30`	`QBFreak`	`hmm, should I use GET (easier) or POST?`
`03:49.42`	`griffeymac`	`POST == much nicer.`
`03:49.45`	`QBFreak`	`if I POST I'll most likely have to use netcat or something`
`03:50.05`	`QBFreak`	`unless someone knows of a nice HTTP POST command line tool :)`
`03:50.21`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: whatcha tryin to do?`
`03:50.33`	`QBFreak`	`fill up this paypal phishing database with crap`
`03:50.43`	`maquis`	`oh`
`03:50.50`	`griffeymac`	`Can't you send a wad of stuff using PHP?`
`03:51.19`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: if you put too much in, it might be easier to distinguish your input`
`03:51.32`	`QBFreak`	`maybe, it was all gonna be random generated though`
`03:51.46`	`maquis`	`if they notice that a bunch coming from the same IP are all bad, then they can just filter you out`
`03:51.57`	`QBFreak`	`I'm hoping by that point someone has taken it down`
`03:52.04`	`maquis`	`whereas, if you do one now, another in 10 minutes, etc., it'll be harder to handle :)`
`03:52.08`	`QBFreak`	`aand I was hoping to pass a script around :)`
`03:52.14`	`maquis`	`ah`
`03:52.15`	`maquis`	`:)`
`03:52.17`	`QBFreak`	`yeah, I wasn't gonna be too hard on it at a given time`
`03:52.30`	`QBFreak`	`no need to get their host on my case for DoS or something`
`03:52.30`	`maquis`	`php/perl would probably be good for what you want`
`03:53.22`	`findlay`	`I wonder what language movie scripts are written in`
`03:54.23`	`Newsome`	`$ file movie`
`03:54.23`	`Newsome`	`movie: Bourne-Again shell script text executable`
`03:54.38`	`findlay`	`wow`
`03:54.42`	`findlay`	`cool`
`03:56.32`	`griffeymac`	`php CURL? Would that do the trick for what you want?`
`03:56.44`	`griffeymac`	`That's what I've used in the past to pass POST data without sending a form...`
`03:59.46`	`tensai`	`wget --post-data or wget --post-file`
`03:59.56`	`tensai`	`I'm sure curl can do it as well`
`04:01.25`	`QBFreak`	`tensai: that looks like the easiest way`
`04:01.29`	`QBFreak`	`I don't need anything fancy :)`
`04:02.53`	`tensai`	`you might report it to castecops.com/pirt`
`04:05.18`	`QBFreak`	`bad url`
`04:09.11`	`maquis`	`bad url... no bone`
`04:12.39`	`QBFreak`	`woah, it didn't take me through the whole thing in FF, but as I get my script to fill the form in each page returned wants more info...`
`04:12.49`	`QBFreak`	`looks like I'm gonna be sending more htan user/pass`
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`04:15.24`	`elg`	`what's that program to switch vt?`
`04:16.34`	`Newsome`	`chvt`
`04:18.01`	`griffeymac`	`Okay, I'm going to bed. G'night maquis (and everyone else).`
`04:19.29`	`QBFreak`	`POSTed fields look like 'field: value\n' in the HTTP headers right?`
`04:20.05`	`elg`	`hmm, can you do that from remote?`
`04:23.06`	`Newsome`	`yes, pretty sure`
`04:27.27`	`tensai`	`QBFreak: no, same as GET. foo=bar&baz=bif`
`04:28.01`	`QBFreak`	`tensai: well, I saw the one param took that, but the file version wants that too?`
`04:28.32`	`tensai`	`yup`
`04:30.15`	`QBFreak`	`sure enough, thanks`
`04:30.27`	`QBFreak`	`'now playing' page until now :)`
`04:35.44`	`QBFreak`	`hmm, I need to get a string of 16 numbers (cc number)`
`04:38.36`	`QBFreak`	`I can use date +%s to generate digits, but its gonna be predictable`
`04:39.35`	`QBFreak`	`aha, $RANDOM`
`04:42.32`	`tensai`	`perl -e 'for ($i=0;$i<16;$i++){ $_ = (0..9)[rand 10]; print }; print "\n";'`
`04:42.50`	`tensai`	`perl -e 'print join "", (0..9)[rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10, rand 10]; print "\n";'`
`04:42.53`	`QBFreak`	`that looks easier than what I was about to do :)`
`04:43.07`	`tensai`	`and it'll always give you 16 digits`
`04:43.19`	`QBFreak`	`both will?`
`04:43.26`	`QBFreak`	`the first appears to`
`04:43.35`	`tensai`	`yup, both will`
`04:44.01`	`tensai`	`don't ask me to explain the second. I just culled it from some existing code.`
`04:44.16`	`QBFreak`	`heh`
`04:44.42`	`QBFreak`	`I'd rather burn up the processor doing loops than repeate the same thing 16 times in code :)`
`04:55.52`	`elg`	`well it works great, except I can't figure out how to get it to work inside x`
`04:56.17`	`elg`	`anyone have enough mplayer fu to tell me how to get mplayer to switch video modes to something my tv likes?`
`04:57.23`	`QBFreak`	`wouldn't that be something you tell whatever is driving the tv-out?`
`04:58.03`	`elg`	`that would be my video card`
`04:58.10`	`QBFreak`	`...on the software side :p`
`04:58.12`	`QBFreak`	`X for instance`
`04:58.14`	`elg`	`mplayer goes into full screen mode`
`04:58.22`	`elg`	`i could do it with x probably`
`04:58.28`	`elg`	`but I think mplayer can do it`
`04:58.40`	`elg`	`I'm pretty sure it changes the resolution anyway when it goes into full-screen mode`
`04:58.54`	`QBFreak`	`I doubt this is it, but can you specify output mode (ie: NTSC vs PAL)`
`04:59.06`	`QBFreak`	`that wouldn't be called output...but not sure what it would be called`
`04:59.19`	`QBFreak`	`you want NTSC, the american way`
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`05:08.21`	`tensai`	`elg: I seem to remember reading about how to do that, but I can't recall nor do I have a bookmark`
`05:08.44`	`elg`	`what about with xrandr or something? what resolution/depth/freq is ntsc?`
`05:14.41`	`tensai`	`that's a real good question. I found these modelines but haven't really tried it.`
`05:14.44`	`tensai`	`ModeLine "640x480NTSC" 28.195793 640 656 658 784 480 520 525 600`
`05:14.44`	`tensai`	`ModeLine "720x480NTSC" 27.5 720 744 800 872 480 483 485 525`
`05:14.44`	`tensai`	`ModeLine "800x600NTSC" 38.769241 800 812 814 880 600 646 649 735`
`05:15.08`	`tensai`	`I couldn't find my computer->tv cable :)`
`05:19.16`	`elg`	`hm. well I'll have to figure it out later. it works from the console now anyhow`
`05:25.51`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: some of the phishers will do basic cc number validation (make sure it has the correct checksum)`
`05:26.40`	`QBFreak`	`yeah, I'm poking the js now`
`05:27.41`	`QBFreak`	`the question is, how do I quickly generate a valid one without a nice big loop to keep throwing them out? :)`
`05:27.56`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: not sure... but there are websites that'll do it`
`05:28.24`	`maquis`	`i'm sure there are also websites that'll explain how the checksum works`
`05:28.39`	`QBFreak`	`the js explains it, sorta, but I'm not sure how to reverse it`
`05:29.37`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: http://www.beachnet.com/~hstiles/cardtype.html`
`05:30.02`	`maquis`	`if you take that, you can figure out the sum of all the other numbers,then fill in the checksum number last`
`05:30.24`	`elg`	`buahaha`
`05:30.32`	`elg`	`doctor who graces my tv`
`05:30.48`	`elg`	`that was easier than it was supposed to be. yay linux`
`05:30.50`	`elg`	`night all`
`05:30.57`	`QBFreak`	`later elg`
`05:31.04`	`QBFreak`	`bah, this is getting more and mroe complicated`
`05:31.12`	`QBFreak`	`heh`
`05:31.36`	`QBFreak`	`cause it needs a valid prefix...`
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`05:31.56`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: just needs to start with a 4`
`05:31.59`	`maquis`	`that's not hard`
`05:32.02`	`QBFreak`	`true`
`05:32.06`	`QBFreak`	`all visa isn't so bad`
`05:32.24`	`QBFreak`	`see, I'm thinking variety :)`
`05:32.28`	`maquis`	`and if you save the last digit until after you've figured out the checksum, you can stick whatever you need in there to make the checksum work`
`05:32.40`	`maquis`	`well... have a separate function for each one`
`05:32.46`	`maquis`	`that way, you can switch it around`
`05:32.47`	`QBFreak`	`ah, I was thinking it was scattered throughout the number`
`05:33.14`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: read the page i linked to... i think that'll make some sense of it`
`05:34.23`	`QBFreak`	`interesting, I didn't know visa could be 13 or 16 digits, I knew amex was 15 though`
`05:34.59`	`maquis`	`:)`
`05:36.06`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: my guess is that this page is at least as specific as the phishers are...`
`05:36.15`	`QBFreak`	`yeah`
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`06:09.54`	`QBFreak`	`heh, the comments on this site that has a ccnum generator are so amusing`
`06:10.45`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: ?`
`06:11.02`	`QBFreak`	`fun things like "these numbers are useless without the expiration date and the cvv2 number" (paraphrased for readability)`
`06:11.31`	`QBFreak`	`some people seem to think the purpose of the page is to generate numbers of 'real' cards, not just ones that pass the checksum test`
`06:12.01`	`maquis`	`yup`
`06:12.29`	`maquis`	`apparently, those pages get used a lot by fraudsters`
`06:20.14`	`QBFreak`	`yay, I gots it workin`
`06:27.32`	`findlay`	`2.0!!@!`
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`06:33.44`	`findlay`	`xbmodder_!!`
`06:33.49`	`findlay`	`-lart xbmodder_`
`06:33.53`	`findlay`	`~lart xbmodder_`
`06:46.19`	`QBFreak`	`yay, script works`
`06:46.28`	`QBFreak`	`now, do I use a random timer or a nice 10 minute cron job?`
`06:46.43`	`maquis`	`random timer would be less predictable...`
`06:46.52`	`nick125`	`maquis: you sure about that? :D`
`06:46.54`	`maquis`	`.although, i'm guessing that they probably won't look that closely`
`06:47.21`	`QBFreak`	`it'd be easier if they don't...`
`06:47.54`	`QBFreak`	`place notes in the login fields "dear mr. phisher, please accept the data you got on nice regular 10 minute intervals, thanks!"`
`06:47.54`	`maquis`	`i'd say just use the cron job`
`06:48.24`	`maquis`	`no... it's "dear friend, i have an amazing business opportunity for you..."`
`06:48.29`	`QBFreak`	`hehe`
`06:49.03`	`nick125`	`QBFreak: what kind of script is this?`
`06:49.19`	`QBFreak`	`posts bad data to a phishing site that emailed me`
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`06:49.28`	`nick125`	`QBFreak: oo..good idea`
`06:49.40`	`nick125`	`what is the script written in?`
`06:49.40`	`QBFreak`	`randomly generated username and passwords, and randomly generated cc numbers with the correct checksum digit`
`06:49.50`	`QBFreak`	`most of it is in bash, the ccnum generator is in perl`
`06:50.10`	`QBFreak`	`who wants a copy?`
`06:50.14`	`nick125`	`me..`
`06:50.21`	`nick125`	`what kind of phish are you getting?`
`06:50.23`	`nick125`	`paypal?`
`06:50.25`	`QBFreak`	`yeah`
`06:50.27`	`maquis`	`of course`
`06:50.34`	`maquis`	`who else do phishers target?`
`06:50.42`	`QBFreak`	`(lakes?)`
`06:50.49`	`maquis`	`the only other one i see a lot is chase manhattan bank`
`06:51.04`	`QBFreak`	`leme add something to delete the files it gets from wget`
`06:51.09`	`QBFreak`	`and to supress the wget output`
`06:51.16`	`nick125`	`I've been getting a lot of ones from chase bank saying that they detected suspectious activity on my account on april 16th, 2006 (and I got this on april 10th, 2006)..`
`06:51.17`	`QBFreak`	`so things stay clean`
`06:51.23`	`QBFreak`	`heh`
`06:51.27`	`maquis`	`nick125: i saw something like that too`
`06:51.35`	`nick125`	`I get around..5 a day`
`06:51.45`	`maquis`	`i recall chuckling at the fact that they obviously can predict the future...`
`06:51.52`	`nick125`	`maquis: me too! :)`
`06:52.14`	`nick125`	`of course, when you have public email addresses, you sorta expect spam..`
`06:52.43`	`findlay`	`the paypal fishpond is always well stocked`
`06:52.57`	`nick125`	`let's see...on my personal email, I got slashdotted (OMG PONIES sign), on my company email, theres the contact page and then my email address was put into a /. comment..`
`06:53.26`	`maquis`	`today, i've got one chase bank survey, an order confirmation for some... enlargement medications... some advertisements for various medication, and a couple places offering me low rates on my mortgage`
`06:54.21`	`maquis`	`spammers have funny names`
`06:54.27`	`maquis`	`vespasian`
`06:54.36`	`maquis`	`dwyler`
`06:54.41`	`maquis`	`poldie`
`06:54.51`	`maquis`	`no wonder these people go into spam...`
`06:56.11`	`findlay`	`~spam`
`06:56.12`	`ibot`	`ACTION sings, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Wonderfull spam!`
`06:56.22`	`findlay`	`what's so bad about that?`
`06:57.21`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: i'm assuming that this script is pretty specialized to the particular site you're attacking?`
`06:57.36`	`QBFreak`	`yeah`
`06:58.00`	`QBFreak`	`although it appears that they simply ripped off the pages straight from paypal, they never fill in half of the hidden fields`
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`06:59.04`	`maquis`	`cool`
`06:59.57`	`nick125`	`I couldn't ping anything except for google...wtf`
`07:00.07`	`QBFreak`	`I figure if I try for too much at once I'll never finish it`
`07:00.40`	`nick125`	`anyone seem to find that odd how I could only ping google.com ? :P`
`07:01.02`	`nick125`	`I wonder what happened..`
`07:01.06`	`QBFreak`	`its that priority traffic thing, google got in on it first`
`07:01.25`	`nick125`	`Let me guess, speakeasy just blocked all ICMP traffic so I couldn't complain about my ping times any more?`
`07:02.31`	`QBFreak`	`ok, give this a shot: http://qbfreak.net/downloads/paypal-garbage.tgz`
`07:02.49`	`QBFreak`	`I'm hoping it really does work, no obvious errors anyway :)`
`07:03.11`	`nick125`	`I had an idea a while back where there would be a huge site, and people could submit phishing links`
`07:03.32`	`QBFreak`	`with a nice distributed client you could run to help stuff them? :)`
`07:04.01`	`nick125`	`it would be manual, but, something like this would make it even better`
`07:05.32`	`nick125`	`lol msie`
`07:05.42`	`QBFreak`	`oh yeah, I forgot to mention it uses that`
`07:06.06`	`QBFreak`	`you might want to put a cd at the top, I forgot to throw that in there`
`07:06.42`	`nick125`	`how do you know if it worked?`
`07:07.20`	`QBFreak`	`you can change $gar_cleanup to 0 and poke the output`
`07:07.25`	`QBFreak`	`see if it looks like no errors`
`07:07.37`	`QBFreak`	`I made it nice and quiet so that you wouldn't have an inbox full of crap`
`07:08.16`	`QBFreak`	`to his copy`
`07:09.55`	`QBFreak`	`I reported the message to gmail a few hours ago, is there anywhere else to tell about this sort of thing?`
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`07:12.17`	`QBFreak`	`by all means clean it up or make some sense of it :)`
`07:12.30`	`QBFreak`	`it started out as a quick and dirty thing that got out of control`
`07:12.39`	`nick125`	`http://nick125.pastebin.com/657130 < thats what the output looks like with verbose on :)`
`07:13.10`	`nick125`	`it would be cool to port this to python..`
`07:13.20`	`QBFreak`	`I don't know python :)`
`07:13.25`	`QBFreak`	`be my guest :)`
`07:14.10`	`nick125`	`the Mod10 stuff is the hard part..`
`07:15.08`	`QBFreak`	`not really`
`07:15.17`	`QBFreak`	`~urls`
`07:15.20`	`nick125`	`well, generating a valid card number..`
`07:15.22`	`QBFreak`	`wrong bot`
`07:15.24`	`QBFreak`	`-urls`
`07:15.28`	`QBFreak`	`-url`
`07:15.31`	`QBFreak`	`bah`
`07:15.40`	`QBFreak`	`leme find the link, or you can look at my perl`
`07:15.44`	`maquis`	`brac ran away again`
`07:15.50`	`maquis`	`~lart brac`
`07:16.00`	`nick125`	`http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/172845 < found a python script to see if the number is valid...that doesn't help with generating the number though`
`07:16.02`	`QBFreak`	`http://www.beachnet.com/~hstiles/cardtype.html`
`07:16.23`	`QBFreak`	`its easier than it looks`
`07:16.31`	`QBFreak`	`I ran mine throuhg a validator, it came out clean :)`
`07:16.49`	`nick125`	`generating the number is the hard part..I've found things to validate it..`
`07:16.58`	`QBFreak`	`look at the perl script :p`
`07:17.04`	`QBFreak`	`i just wrote it, its not that hard`
`07:17.12`	`nick125`	`I have no clue how to read perl though`
`07:17.18`	`QBFreak`	`its simple stuff`
`07:18.18`	`QBFreak`	`ok, assume you're going to do a 16 digit number, add the first digit to your (now zero) checksum, (and start with a 4, indicates a visa card),`
`07:18.30`	`QBFreak`	`err`
`07:18.41`	`QBFreak`	`double it and add to your checksum`
`07:18.52`	`QBFreak`	`add the second digit to the checksum`
`07:19.11`	`QBFreak`	`double the third digit, is it more than 10? subtract 10 and add 1, add the result to the checksum`
`07:19.14`	`QBFreak`	`add the fourth...`
`07:19.20`	`QBFreak`	`it alternates`
`07:19.41`	`QBFreak`	`I'm not making sense...need sleep`
`07:19.50`	`QBFreak`	`psuedo code! give me a minute :)`
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`07:24.53`	`nick125_`	`lol`
`07:25.31`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: see... told you it wouldn't be bad :)`
`07:25.45`	`QBFreak`	`and you were right`
`07:29.10`	`maquis`	`:)`
`07:30.02`	`QBFreak`	`bah, whats a good way to psuedo code "random number from 0 and 9"`
`07:30.04`	`QBFreak`	`errr to`
`07:32.35`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: just say "random (0-9)`
`07:32.36`	`maquis`	`"`
`07:32.49`	`maquis`	`or rand(10)`
`07:32.52`	`maquis`	`or something like that`
`07:32.56`	`maquis`	`we'll get the idea`
`07:33.12`	`QBFreak`	`this is why I always write _real_ code :)`
`07:33.27`	`QBFreak`	`I can't write the fake stuff, I get caught up in the details of inventing a new language`
`07:33.36`	`QBFreak`	`usually a mess of BASIC like stuff with C comments`
`07:33.46`	`QBFreak`	`and extra lazy`
`07:33.52`	`QBFreak`	`cause everyone needs lazy`
`07:39.52`	`QBFreak`	`see if http://qbfreak.net/stuff/gencard.txt make sense`
`07:41.53`	`QBFreak`	`I'm thinking a flowchart would have been better, but I didn't know what to make it in`
`07:42.03`	`QBFreak`	`something with pretty pictures would work best`
`07:43.04`	`QBFreak`	`generally the checksum is calculated from right ot left, because you don't know if the card length will be even or odd`
`07:43.14`	`QBFreak`	`but in that code I assumed even`
`07:47.01`	`QBFreak`	`once you get it, its pretty simple`
`07:47.09`	`QBFreak`	`I did a couple on paper :)`
`07:48.56`	`QBFreak`	`uhoh`
`07:49.04`	`QBFreak`	`that number looks too long`
`07:49.19`	`QBFreak`	`eek, it is`
`07:49.47`	`QBFreak`	`the question is...why`
`07:53.54`	`QBFreak`	`ahhh, the check digit should have been 0, but I added 10 to it...`
`07:59.53`	`QBFreak`	`http://qbfreak.net/downloads/paypal-garbage.tgz`
`08:00.03`	`QBFreak`	`fixes the too-long issue`
`08:00.13`	`nick125`	`heres a new URL if you want: http://3289160965/us/`
`08:00.17`	`QBFreak`	`and now the files will be in the same dir as the script no matter where its called from`
`08:01.18`	`QBFreak`	`I think there must be a paypal kit you can buy now...`
`08:01.28`	`nick125_`	`QBFreak: yeah..`
`08:01.45`	`QBFreak`	`they all have the same crappy windows XP address bar image`
`08:02.01`	`nick125_`	`the one that breaks in firefox horribly?`
`08:02.06`	`QBFreak`	`yeah`
`08:06.17`	`QBFreak`	`tomorrow I suppose I need to make this thing a little more flexible`
`08:10.20`	`QBFreak`	`that server is sloow`
`08:11.02`	`nick125_`	`lol gee golly wonder why..`
`08:11.47`	`nick125_`	`let me guess, thats running on someones cable line..heh`
`08:12.03`	`QBFreak`	`gold.terracom.rw`
`08:12.05`	`QBFreak`	`err golf`
`08:14.11`	`QBFreak`	`scripts are the same, change the numbers and drop the cgi-bin from the urls`
`08:14.50`	`nick125_`	`damn bzip2 takes forever..`
`08:15.39`	`nick125_`	`well..it took a 3GB file down to 375MB soo..cant complain :P`
`08:16.56`	`nick125_`	`hopefully getting rid of these disk images will help remove some junk`
`08:27.53`	`QBFreak`	`bed time`
`08:28.11`	`QBFreak`	`maybe tomorrow I'll make something sturdier with more flexibility`
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`12:26.36`	`emcnabb`	`morning all`
`12:27.11`	`mheath`	`morning`
`12:27.15`	`mheath`	`Fine then`
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`12:28.03`	`mheath`	`Heh, I'll get to hear Governor Huntsman talk next Saturday`
`12:28.30`	`mheath`	`I was not impressed the last time I heard the Lt. Gov. speak.`
`12:28.44`	`goozbach`	`morning!`
`12:28.49`	`goozbach`	`yay!`
`12:28.52`	`goozbach`	`I'm awake`
`12:33.01`	`mheath`	`The Lt. Gov. came and spoke at the Navy Ball in October`
`12:33.27`	`mheath`	`What blew me away was, a month later, he came up to the reserve center and delivered the almost identically same speach to the same people`
`12:33.30`	`mheath`	`He didn't seem to notice.`
`12:50.10`	`goozbach`	`clippy must DIE!`
`13:03.00`	`mheath`	`Indeed.`
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`13:11.58`	`mheath`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:12.02`	`mheath`	`Isn't that basically taken from DeCarte?`
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`13:17.27`	`elg`	`ok, bashers, I want to pass along $* from a script, but then quoted or escaped things with spaces are no longer quoted or escaped. but I can't just do "$*" because there's more than one option, right?`
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`13:22.20`	`elg`	`oh look at that. I really wanted $@ and "$@" does the right hting`
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`14:41.13`	`goozbach`	`-bark`
`14:41.23`	`goozbach`	`dude! it's not even 9 am there yet`
`14:41.27`	`goozbach`	`wow!`
`14:42.06`	`dataw0lf`	`you in Florida?`
`14:50.53`	`goozbach`	`yup`
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`14:52.20`	`tensai`	`just in time for hurricane season`
`14:52.26`	`goozbach`	`yup`
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`15:09.13`	`elg`	`maquis: http://calendar.google.com`
`15:09.25`	`jsmith`	`elg: Is it live?`
`15:10.39`	`elg`	`it's live for me anyway`
`15:10.45`	`elg`	`my brother sent me a link, and I'm on`
`15:11.12`	`elg`	`~utplanet`
`15:11.17`	`elg`	`~help rss`
`15:14.27`	`Jayce^`	`I'm on, doesn't support safari yet though :(`
`15:14.45`	`Jayce^`	`it's breaking when trying to import my public .ics too`
`15:18.39`	`elg`	`oh yeah? (I'm on firefox on windows at the moment)`
`15:19.22`	`Jayce^`	`firefox on mac atm... stuck trying to import my ics`
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`15:22.55`	`maquis`	`elg: i tried it last night... i can't figure out how to make it accept more than one calendar`
`15:23.25`	`elg`	`i might use it, if it will work in safari and send me notifications via jabber`
`15:26.38`	`herlo`	`calendar times out for me....`
`15:26.48`	`herlo`	`maquis: is it sporadic?`
`15:27.01`	`herlo`	`or is it because it was announced today...`
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`15:29.51`	`herlo`	`anyone else having trouble connecting to google calendar?`
`15:30.09`	`Jayce^`	`not connecting, but problems with it working`
`15:30.14`	`herlo`	`hrmm`
`15:31.24`	`jsmith`	`What, they going to rename it from the Slashdot effect to the Google effect?`
`15:31.35`	`herlo`	`maybe!! :-D`
`15:32.07`	`graphyx`	`You need the "proxy investigation" button.`
`15:32.12`	`graphyx`	`I have that for my work place.`
`15:32.13`	`herlo`	`really`
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`15:32.27`	`herlo`	`how does that work exactly graphyx?`
`15:32.31`	`jsmith`	`herlo: If I were your boss, I'd block access to an ajax-based calendar too!`
`15:32.32`	`graphyx`	`It allows you access to any site that was blocked to "investigate" it.`
`15:32.50`	`graphyx`	`It's a link on the "this site is blocked" page`
`15:32.56`	`herlo`	`jsmith: glad you aren't MY boss!!`
`15:33.27`	`jsmith`	`Yeah, me too :-)`
`15:33.34`	`herlo`	`works at home`
`15:33.43`	`graphyx`	`so does jsmith`
`15:33.48`	`herlo`	`~lart jsmith a little to late`
`15:34.42`	`herlo`	`hrmm wonder why it doesn't work for me`
`15:36.28`	`Jayce^`	`I keep getting a 'Failed to import caledar from null()'`
`15:37.33`	`herlo`	`it appears that calendar will not work for me because its on the same subnet as maps. My company disabled many of the satellite images from google because google earth was using up way too much bandwidth.`
`15:37.36`	`sjansen`	`~rlart`
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`15:38.42`	`herlo`	`yeah, lars-ut: when is the next release gonna be?`
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`15:41.48`	`levi`	`Morning, #utah`
`15:42.21`	`elg`	`morning levi. you hip yet? everybody's playing with google calendar`
`15:42.33`	`herlo`	`except me :-(`
`15:42.39`	`levi`	`elg: Calendars don't excite me.`
`15:42.52`	`levi`	`elg: And I have iCal anyway.`
`15:43.35`	`synic`	`tensai: are you using drbd on debian?`
`15:43.46`	`tensai`	`synic: yup`
`15:43.53`	`elg`	`if google's calendar eventually sends notifications by jabber, I can see myself using it occasionally`
`15:44.03`	`synic`	`tensai: did you have to compile the module?`
`15:44.11`	`levi`	`elg: I'm groaning at entries on planet utah again.`
`15:44.35`	`graphyx`	`calander notifiction vi ajabber would be sweet`
`15:44.39`	`tensai`	`synic: yeah, built it from scratch. I tried using the packages in sarge but never got it to work. compiling from source is pretty easy.`
`15:44.45`	`sjansen`	`So is google calendar supposed to do something other than just sit there with a mostly white screen an a handful of links that do nothing?`
`15:44.56`	`synic`	`tensai: yeah... just debian has made me lazy :D`
`15:45.21`	`tensai`	`laziness and hubris, the mark of a true hacker`
`15:47.50`	`tensai`	`made jalapeno mayonaisse last night. so delicous.`
`15:48.05`	`Jayce^`	`tensai, blog it... will be a good one`
`15:48.19`	`tensai`	`Jayce^: but I didn't get any pictures`
`15:48.38`	`Jayce^`	`well, pictures of mayo aren't all that necessary, but the experience is..`
`15:49.09`	`graphyx`	`pictures of mayo...`
`15:49.11`	`graphyx`	`hmm...`
`15:49.30`	`tensai`	`can't wait to finish my smoker so I can try chipotle mayo too`
`15:49.52`	`synic`	`mmmm chipotle`
`15:49.59`	`Jayce^`	`mmm`
`15:50.27`	`graphyx`	`http://flickr.com/photos/mshades/119570634/`
`15:51.10`	`graphyx`	`http://flickr.com/photos/fireball728/100916505/`
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`15:54.25`	`elg`	`levi: I got lost on one of those posts`
`15:54.45`	`elg`	`someone keeps switching topics every paragraph - how am I to know if he has anything useful to say? so I just skip it`
`15:55.54`	`elg`	`sjansen: isn't that what calendars do?`
`15:56.10`	`elg`	`display events in a space-inefficient manner`
`15:56.41`	`sjansen`	`I thought a Web 2.0 calendar might be different. You know, so I didn't have to write on my screen with a felt tip marker...`
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`15:59.48`	`^Migs^`	`why doesn't google calendar allow touch-screen capability?`
`16:00.02`	`^Migs^`	`it's like we're still in the middle ages or something`
`16:03.55`	`levi`	`elg: That person's posts make me highly annoyed.`
`16:04.54`	`findlay`	`~annoy levi`
`16:05.28`	`sjansen`	`~annoy levi`
`16:05.47`	`sjansen`	`~stopignoringmeyoustupidbot`
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`16:07.08`	`levi`	`elg: And I don't even understand how someone could have a serious moral dilemma over IM protocols. Though at least that entry was well-written.`
`16:07.37`	`levi`	`elg: Well, aside from being overly dramatic.`
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`16:16.07`	`JoshH`	`so i went to that site that someone said wasn't safe for BYU, that was "about web2.0"... and maybe i'm just blind, but i see no information about web 2.0 anywhere on it`
`16:16.45`	`^Migs^`	`crap`
`16:17.19`	`^Migs^`	`something compelled me to get on myspace, and apparently all the girls I used to know 10 years ago grew up to be complete hotties, and all the scrawny guys I knew are ripped now`
`16:17.26`	`^Migs^`	`makes me feel fat and old`
`16:17.35`	`levi`	`Time to get ripped!`
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`16:18.17`	`sjansen`	`Nah, those aren't their real pictures. They just photo-shopped their heads onto Fabio's body.`
`16:18.29`	`^Migs^`	`yeah`
`16:18.33`	`^Migs^`	`thanks for making me feel better`
`16:19.29`	`levi`	`Heh, Phil Windley got anonymous hate email from a student that made no sense.`
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`16:26.04`	`sjansen`	`Why does google calendar hate me?`
`16:26.20`	`goozbach`	`cause you are sjansen`
`16:28.03`	`^Migs^`	`wow`
`16:28.10`	`^Migs^`	`I don't think it hates you`
`16:28.34`	`sjansen`	`~crushburndestroyeat goozbach`
`16:34.53`	`jsmith`	`sjansen: I know this doesn't help, but it's working fine for me.`
`16:36.30`	`mrpull-`	`sjansen: is google calendar public now or are you in a limited beta`
`16:36.31`	`mrpull-`	`?`
`16:36.36`	`Jayce^`	`jsmith, have you tried adding a calendar? other things work, but I just want to make sure it can read a calendar I have`
`16:36.37`	`dataw0lf`	`public`
`16:37.33`	`Jayce^`	`I'm surprised they dont' have jabber notifications as an option`
`16:38.05`	`jsmith`	`Jayce^: I've got it reading external (webcal) calendars, but i had to change the url from webcal://server/calendar.ics to http://server/calendar.ics`
`16:39.51`	`mrpull-`	`exchange works for me :)`
`16:43.35`	`tensai`	`sjansen: I conned the code into rebinding, but now it's not retrying the modification. baby steps I guess`
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`16:45.53`	`graphyx`	`sjansen: The girls too...`
`16:46.17`	`graphyx`	`nvm that topic has passed. I wasn't scrolled down`
`16:46.28`	`elg`	`levi: know anything about FCA (formal concept analysis)?`
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`16:46.40`	`levi`	`elg: Nope, that term is new to me.`
`16:47.15`	`elg`	`upriss.org.uk/papers/arist.pdf`
`16:47.27`	`elg`	`a class on it is being offered, trying to decide if it's interesting`
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`16:54.08`	`Jayce^`	`jsmith, that's still not working for me`
`16:54.17`	`jsmith`	`Oh really...`
`16:54.23`	`jsmith`	`Maybe it's a problem in your ics file?`
`16:54.28`	`Jayce^`	`says it can't import from null()`
`16:54.33`	`elg`	`maybe they hard coded it to give you flak`
`16:55.01`	`jsmith`	`Jayce^: Can you import http://ical.mac.com/ical/US32Holidays.ics ?`
`16:56.40`	`herlo`	`so my company blocks google calendar because its in the same class c that google earth uses....sucks!!`
`16:56.57`	`^Migs^`	`complain to someone`
`16:57.03`	`findlay`	`ha`
`16:57.08`	`sjansen`	`herlo: quit!`
`16:57.14`	`findlay`	`yeah`
`16:57.37`	`Jayce^`	`jsmith, didn't give me an error, but not showing anything`
`16:57.48`	`Jayce^`	`didn't actually add it`
`16:58.08`	`jsmith`	`Jayce^: It takes a minute to show up in the left hand pane`
`16:58.11`	`herlo`	`what is that all about sjansen? I don't^H^H^H^H^H already quit!!`
`16:59.12`	`Jayce^`	`just got an error saying it couldn't add`
`17:01.47`	`Jayce^`	`hey, my stuff finally imported, but doesn't show up in the calendar itself`
`17:05.19`	`*** join/#utah fungus (n=fungus@firebat.aros.net)`
`17:07.15`	`Jayce^`	`hrm, nevermind, finally showed up on the side for a while.. then got the error after a few minutes`
`17:07.25`	`Jayce^`	`it was trying to make me think it was working`
`17:07.28`	`tensai`	`~lart Jayce^`
`17:09.22`	`lars-ut`	`~lart "Your grace period limit has been reached and will not be reset"`
`17:14.26`	`*** join/#utah brac (i=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net)`
`17:15.47`	`tensai`	`~lart brac`
`17:16.55`	`elg`	`-roulette`
`17:16.56`	`brac`	`elg: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+`
`17:20.55`	`lars-ut`	`~idchoppers`
`17:20.56`	`ibot`	`Doesn't suck - GM`
`17:27.16`	`tristanbob`	`soooo..... Google Calendar. Has anyone gotten the calendar sharing to work?`
`17:27.30`	`Jayce^`	`nope, cant' even get import to work`
`17:27.45`	`tristanbob`	`I added a person to share with, and it appeared to take it. But then when I go to settings again it is not there`
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`17:30.27`	`QBFreak`	`nick125_: hey, you might want to check your running processes, the first site is dying pretty bad and leaving a lot of wget instances running`
`17:31.05`	`QBFreak`	`ls`
`17:31.21`	`nick125`	`QBFreak: yeah..I'm not running it as cron yet`
`17:31.23`	`sjansen`	`Is it just me, or does Google's quality go down with each beta?`
`17:31.32`	`QBFreak`	`ah good`
`17:31.36`	`tensai`	`does google have anything that's not beta?`
`17:31.43`	`QBFreak`	`search`
`17:32.09`	`tristanbob`	`I think google means the beta fish`
`17:32.37`	`nick125_`	`QBFreak: I'm using the site that I found last night..it seems to work..`
`17:32.38`	`QBFreak`	`nick125: are sockets pretty easy in python? I may try and rewrite it later :)`
`17:32.45`	`QBFreak`	`yeah, that one is still running for me`
`17:32.58`	`nick125_`	`QBFreak: just use urllib2..it makes it pretty easy`
`17:33.03`	`nick125_`	`lemme grab you an example`
`17:33.41`	`QBFreak`	`I was wanting the status codes and to do timeouts`
`17:34.00`	`nick125_`	`http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/node483.html`
`17:34.02`	`brac`	`[11.4.2 Examples]`
`17:34.27`	`nick125_`	`look at the second one`
`17:35.00`	`QBFreak`	`cool, I'll have to play with it later`
`17:35.09`	`QBFreak`	`I've been meaning to look at python, everyone keeps telling me to :)`
`17:35.20`	`nick125`	`hehe..`
`17:35.37`	`nick125`	`python is pretty simple to do alot of things in..`
`17:37.17`	`*** join/#utah Jayce (n=Jayce_@pollux.northsky.com)`
`17:37.43`	`nick125_`	`I got two more this morning`
`17:39.03`	`nick125`	`http://3289160965/us/`
`17:39.27`	`*** join/#utah fungus_ (n=fungus@firebat.aros.net)`
`17:40.20`	`nick125`	`that seems to be the only one that works`
`17:40.28`	`QBFreak`	`http://67.105.55.78:84/page/update_full/`
`17:40.34`	`brac`	`[PayPal - Welcome]`
`17:40.54`	`QBFreak`	`brac: it lies`
`17:41.00`	`nick125`	`lol`
`17:41.25`	`nick125`	`I should be getting some moree soon..`
`17:43.01`	`QBFreak`	`everyone says that too...`
`17:43.03`	`nick125_`	`Ruby is cool too...I've used ruby before..`
`17:43.33`	`nick125_`	`I wrote a few IRC bots in ruby`
`17:43.47`	`nick125_`	`(that seems to be what I always write in new languages to get a feel for it)`
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`17:45.31`	`QBFreak`	`nick125_: the one you pasted is one I've already got, I think you gave it to me last night`
`17:46.14`	`nick125_`	`oo..dunno, I just got it lol`
`17:46.25`	`nick125_`	`they might have sent many of them out..`
`17:46.40`	`QBFreak`	`its the one that turns into gold.terracom.rw`
`17:46.43`	`QBFreak`	`err golf`
`17:46.47`	`nick125_`	`oo..`
`17:47.11`	`QBFreak`	`oh hey, I should do one of these for this chase bank message....`
`17:47.56`	`nick125_`	`I got an idea: make a XML message format so you can simply make a new spoofspec file to flood a new site with false info`
`17:48.11`	`QBFreak`	`yeah, I was thinking that I should do something along those lines`
`17:48.43`	`nick125_`	`then, make a site where its a collection of those SpoofSpec files`
`17:48.57`	`QBFreak`	`and a client that everyone can download :)`
`17:49.02`	`nick125_`	`yeah`
`17:49.29`	`nick125_`	`and, then, make a XML feed so the client program can autodownload new SpoofSpec files`
`17:50.27`	`QBFreak`	`sheesh, firefox is sloow right now`
`17:51.04`	`QBFreak`	`ah, it was the gtalk window`
`17:51.33`	`nick125_`	`anyone here know how to use scp? :P`
`17:51.40`	`goozbach`	`man scp`
`17:52.05`	`findlay`	`~man scp`
`17:52.06`	`ibot`	`EXAMPLES (1) scp file*.mp3 me@myserver:/music (2) scp me@myserver:public_html/index.html .`
`17:52.53`	`Jayce`	`ineteresting, adding my calendar to google, never even tries to access it`
`17:53.13`	`nick125_`	`scp remotebox:/root/centos43 centos43`
`17:53.27`	`lukfugl`	`Jayce: but does it still get the data? :) Google is magic sometimes...`
`17:53.28`	`nick125_`	`^^ thats correct, right?`
`17:53.42`	`lukfugl`	`nick125_: looks fine`
`17:53.46`	`Jayce`	`if it's a single file nick125_ yes`
`17:53.50`	`lukfugl`	`you probably want a -r though`
`17:53.55`	`findlay`	`works just like cp`
`17:54.02`	`nick125_`	`oh, I feel stupid...I was scp'ing to the wrong host slap`
`17:54.14`	`Jayce`	`~slap nick125_`
`17:54.16`	`ibot`	`ACTION slaps nick125_, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`17:54.22`	`nick125_`	`centos43 100% 9033 8.8KB/s 00:01`
`17:54.26`	`nick125_`	`there..`
`17:55.16`	`elg`	`lukfugl: want my old couch?`
`17:55.17`	`elg`	`:)`
`17:55.37`	`goozbach`	`elg: I'd take it, but can you drive it over? :)`
`17:55.46`	`elg`	`not to florida, sorry`
`17:55.57`	`elg`	`maybe I could float it over`
`17:56.00`	`elg`	`on a raft`
`17:56.24`	`elg`	`I'll make a raft and float it down the rio grande. you catch it.`
`17:56.32`	`lukfugl`	`elg: sure... but don't I already have it? :) Oh, wait, that's the loveseat`
`17:56.54`	`elg`	`is that where it ended up? great, you'll have a matching set!`
`17:57.06`	`lukfugl`	`green and white checker, right?`
`17:57.11`	`elg`	`yeah`
`17:57.12`	`QBFreak`	`nice, oth chase and paypal from the same ip`
`17:58.03`	`QBFreak`	`and a "survey" from chase bank too`
`17:58.08`	`lukfugl`	`you gonna store it down there and bring it up in the summer, or send it?`
`17:58.31`	`lukfugl`	`Rio Grande doesn't come by here`
`17:58.55`	`goozbach`	`elg: if you'd been two weeks sooner, I'd have been driving through and could have picked it up`
`17:59.01`	`nick125_`	`lukfugl: I'll stop it for you and send it back upstream if you don't get it the first chance!`
`17:59.11`	`tristanbob`	`looks like google calendar sharing is working now`
`18:00.09`	`tristanbob`	`this is going to be nice, I can see my wife's schedule in pink, and mine in blue`
`18:00.29`	`QBFreak`	`and now if google wants to knock you off, they know where you'll be when`
`18:01.57`	`nick125_`	`oo google calendar..`
`18:02.01`	`nick125_`	`:P`
`18:02.08`	`Jayce`	`bah, still not importing`
`18:02.11`	`lukfugl`	`nick125_: where have you been all morning? :)`
`18:02.15`	`elg`	`it imported my ical calendar fine`
`18:02.19`	`tristanbob`	`hmmmm.... better remove my home security codes from it then`
`18:02.27`	`nick125_`	`lukfugl: working on that damn rpmstrap file..`
`18:02.28`	`nick125_`	`:P`
`18:02.37`	`Jayce`	`elg, did you upload, or is it a publically accessible one?`
`18:03.01`	`elg`	`upload`
`18:03.18`	`nick125_`	`tristanbob: yeah, that might be a good idea`
`18:03.20`	`Jayce`	`yeah, I'm trying to get it via http... it errors out on that`
`18:03.29`	`lukfugl`	`w00t, three cheers for a $30 gift certificate to PFChangs!`
`18:03.50`	`sjansen`	`~steal lukfugl's gift certificate`
`18:03.51`	`ibot`	`ACTION grabs lukfugl's gift certificate and gives it to sjansen`
`18:03.59`	`sjansen`	`~botsnack`
`18:03.59`	`ibot`	`sjansen: :)`
`18:04.17`	`lukfugl`	`~steal the gift certificate back`
`18:04.18`	`ibot`	`ACTION grabs the gift certificate back and gives it to lukfugl`
`18:04.49`	`lukfugl`	`-lart sjansen for stealing`
`18:05.00`	`lukfugl`	`ooh, capital punishment`
`18:05.30`	`nick125_`	`http://www.24x7updates.com/FullStory-News-Google_unveils_Calendar_Service-ID-201061.html < "Google employees will not read your private calendar information," the company says.`
`18:05.31`	`brac`	`[Google unveils Calendar Service]`
`18:05.51`	`sjansen`	`heh`
`18:06.33`	`elg`	`whatever, why are people in arms about their boring calendars vs. their email and IM which they indiscriminantly flaunt on any web-based service that comes around?`
`18:07.59`	`graphyx`	`Well the emial is who and what.`
`18:08.08`	`graphyx`	`But the calerdar is where and when.`
`18:08.20`	`graphyx`	`you have everything but the why.`
`18:08.32`	`graphyx`	`and assuming it is mostly geeks using that you already know.`
`18:09.13`	`tristanbob`	`does anyone else use google to host their domain email?`
`18:09.44`	`tristanbob`	`it basically gives you gmail-type access to a non-gmail domain`
`18:09.55`	`Jayce`	`isn't that still in beta?`
`18:10.04`	`tristanbob`	`is the sky blue`
`18:10.07`	`lukfugl`	`isn't gmail still in beta? :)`
`18:10.32`	`Jayce`	`closed beta...`
`18:10.46`	`lukfugl`	`ah`
`18:10.56`	`tristanbob`	`google gave me 50 free email accounts for my domain`
`18:11.22`	`tristanbob`	`I just applied and 1 or 2 weeks later they gave me the accoutns, I don't know if that is still open....`
`18:11.50`	`tristanbob`	`I was hoping that the google calendar would integrate with those accounts`
`18:13.12`	`Jayce`	`would be nice`
`18:14.13`	`*** part/#utah ECS (n=ECS@128.187.176.14)`
`18:15.11`	`tristanbob`	`https://www.google.com/hosted/`
`18:15.22`	`tristanbob`	`It doesn't look closed, it is limited beta`
`18:15.36`	`tristanbob`	`so try applying - I just said it was a family domain`
`18:19.26`	`findlay`	`why.google.com`
`18:19.35`	`findlay`	`there's got to be the why answer there`
`18:20.23`	`nick125_`	`findlay: doesn't resolve..`
`18:20.32`	`findlay`	`darn`
`18:20.57`	`findlay`	`once it comes up, then we'll have no reason not to use google for everything`
`18:21.00`	`lukfugl`	`findlay: I just get a 2 byte text/plain response: "42"`
`18:21.10`	`QBFreak`	`heh!`
`18:21.55`	`findlay`	`should have been 26`
`18:22.15`	`findlay`	`26 is the only integer between a perfect square and a perfect cube`
`18:22.24`	`lukfugl`	`26? are you implying google is only playing with half a deck?`
`18:22.33`	`findlay`	`isn't it a perfect number too?`
`18:22.51`	`findlay`	`no, 42 is just so arbitrary`
`18:23.03`	`lukfugl`	`nope (1 + 2 + 13 != 26)`
`18:23.39`	`findlay`	`28 is`
`18:24.12`	`lukfugl`	`yup`
`18:24.25`	`tensai`	`~lart math geeks`
`18:25.21`	`lukfugl`	`although this borders more on numerology in the aristotelian sence than "math" :)`
`18:25.36`	`lukfugl`	`sense, that is`
`18:29.01`	`lukfugl`	`Jayce: next chance you get, smack Joseph for me. What's he doing with a Thalia cover of "You Spin Me Round"?`
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`18:37.39`	`lars-ut`	`"We're sorry, but Gmail is temporarily unavailable. We're currently working to fix the problem -- please try logging in to your account in a few minutes.`
`18:37.39`	`lars-ut`	`"`
`18:38.53`	`sjansen`	`http://wahoo.com/mission.html`
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`19:05.47`	`QBFreak`	`hmm, I could use an email generator, makes valid looking addresses`
`19:06.05`	`QBFreak`	`email _address_ generator`
`19:10.24`	`sjansen`	`Proprietary software vendor: "Give me more money!"`
`19:10.49`	`sjansen`	`Customer: "Hurt me again, please."`
`19:11.13`	`sjansen`	`Proprietary software vendor: "Your a lying scum weasel! Give me more money!"`
`19:13.12`	`findlay`	`lol`
`19:16.05`	`Jayce`	`lukfugl, now he's playing it here`
`19:16.54`	`harleypig`	`SPOOOON`
`19:27.16`	`findlay`	`~hate message boards`
`19:29.13`	`harleypig`	`I have an integrated usb webcam and an integrated tv tuner card. Does anyone know how I can access the usb webcam info?`
`19:29.16`	`harleypig`	`Or how I can find out?`
`19:29.33`	`QBFreak`	`cheese?`
`19:29.34`	`herlo`	`sjansen has way too much time on his hands, needs to spend more time on ConTeXt`
`19:29.44`	`harleypig`	`usbview shows two devices, one unknown, the other is not the camera.`
`19:30.32`	`harleypig`	`/dev/video0 is apparently looking at the tuner card.`
`19:33.36`	`findlay`	`~duck s`
`19:33.38`	`ibot`	`ACTION gives s a fuzzy, ugly little duckling, which immediately grows into a full sized swan and pummels s with it's big white wings.`
`19:34.33`	`bmidgley`	`learn to spell ibot`
`19:34.58`	`findlay`	`~spell ibot`
`19:35.03`	`levi`	`Any expect gurus in the house?`
`19:35.36`	`findlay`	`heh, ibot doesn't know how to spell his own name`
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`19:37.02`	`vontrapp`	`ok wifi gurus`
`19:37.14`	`vontrapp`	`i was at byu today and i could not get on the wireless for the life of me`
`19:37.21`	`vontrapp`	`(in the tanner building)`
`19:37.38`	`vontrapp`	`while troubleshooting this, i noticed a flood of DEAUTH from AP in the syslog`
`19:37.52`	`vontrapp`	`google says this is a DoS attack on wireless networks`
`19:38.19`	`vontrapp`	`what exactly is the DEAUTH packet for? does it make my card deascociate? because it wouldn't stay associated`
`19:38.54`	`sjansen`	`I was seeing a mess load of that yesterday. Were you using bcm43xx? I suspect it's just buggy.`
`19:39.07`	`vontrapp`	`yes, bcm43xx`
`19:40.42`	`dataw0lf`	`ugh I hate Broadcom`
`19:40.54`	`vontrapp`	`yes, yes we all do`
`19:42.13`	`dataw0lf`	`vontrapp: what's the auth mechanism at BYU? or on that specific network, rather?`
`19:44.07`	`vontrapp`	`no wep or wpa`
`19:44.23`	`vontrapp`	`just a web based authentication to set up routes`
`19:50.17`	`goozbach`	`never again!!!`
`19:50.20`	`goozbach`	`I swear it!`
`19:50.50`	`goozbach`	`never shall I buy a laptop without the extended super-size no-questions-asked warranty!!!`
`19:51.16`	`QBFreak`	`awesome song`
`19:51.25`	`lars-ut`	`indeed it is.`
`19:53.47`	`Jayce`	`goozbach, what happened this time?`
`19:54.47`	`lars-ut`	`findlay: I enjoy classical music, but I more often listen to ambient, electronic, 80s, 90s, some of the stuff played on X96, and of course, SOMAFM.`
`19:54.49`	`goozbach`	`my screen finally gave up the ghost`
`19:55.06`	`goozbach`	`Jayce: you saw that when I was doing my presentation, right?`
`19:55.15`	`goozbach`	`the flicker and semi-die?`
`19:55.17`	`QBFreak`	`lars-ut: you listen to real music :)`
`19:56.15`	`lars-ut`	`QBFreak: then again, I lack findlay's intellectual prowess with math & physics`
`19:57.19`	`findlay`	`heh`
`19:57.33`	`findlay`	`my head probably appears bigger frim the side`
`19:57.38`	`lars-ut`	`lol`
`19:58.59`	`QBFreak`	`I guess I listen to that sort of music cause I'm not as smart as findlay either`
`20:00.06`	`dataw0lf`	`it's all about RATM`
`20:00.35`	`findlay`	`~ratm`
`20:00.53`	`dataw0lf`	`rage against the machine`
`20:01.12`	`lars-ut`	`dataw0lf reveals his preference in bassists again?`
`20:01.28`	`dataw0lf`	`:D`
`20:01.37`	`dataw0lf`	`<3 Timmy C's funky bass lines`
`20:01.49`	`dataw0lf`	`rage got me into playing the bass.`
`20:05.22`	`QBFreak`	`air accordian!`
`20:05.33`	`lars-ut`	`TMBG`
`20:06.20`	`herlo`	`and grins...from ear to ear`
`20:06.53`	`dataw0lf`	`well, nah`
`20:06.54`	`dataw0lf`	`Lincoln was an ok album.`
`20:07.05`	`dataw0lf`	`that's about as far as I'll go in praising TMBG though`
`20:07.24`	`dataw0lf`	`eh, Flood wasn't that bad either, I guess.`
`20:07.34`	`lars-ut`	`:)`
`20:08.22`	`dataw0lf`	`I lean more towards punk and funky/hard rock.`
`20:08.36`	`dataw0lf`	`I can dig RHCP, that's for sure.`
`20:08.44`	`dataw0lf`	`lars-ut: how many kids you got?`
`20:08.44`	`lars-ut`	`oh yeah`
`20:08.51`	`lars-ut`	`3`
`20:08.57`	`dataw0lf`	`that's cool.`
`20:09.19`	`lars-ut`	`thanks.`
`20:09.25`	`harleypig`	`ah HAH! kinfocenter`
`20:09.42`	`dataw0lf`	`I definitely want kids... in the distant future.`
`20:09.42`	`findlay`	`kinfocenter?`
`20:09.58`	`harleypig`	`dataw0lf: I definitely want more ... :>`
`20:10.14`	`harleypig`	`I ust have to wait for polygamy to come back.`
`20:10.24`	`findlay`	`lol`
`20:10.53`	`harleypig`	`kinfocenter has a usb devices section`
`20:11.19`	`harleypig`	`so, now I can see where my webcam is ... now I just need to figure out what software to install, or how to point the software I've got to the right place.`
`20:12.43`	`levi`	`dataw0lf: I have a command that returns multiple lines, and I need to parse bits out of several (but not all) of the lines. How difficult is this in expect?`
`20:13.03`	`harleypig`	`As much as you expect it to be?`
`20:13.15`	`QBFreak`	`expect the unexpected!`
`20:13.39`	`harleypig`	`expected or unexpected? that is the question`
`20:14.07`	`dataw0lf`	`levi: fairly easy.`
`20:14.18`	`dataw0lf`	`I'm using Python's Expect module right now, though.`
`20:14.48`	`levi`	`dataw0lf: I don't have that luxury, since I'm using expect as part of another application.`
`20:16.54`	`dataw0lf`	`levi: what are you using as a reference right now?`
`20:17.15`	`dataw0lf`	`I'd have to see the exact command and output, but just match the new lines as they come.`
`20:17.18`	`levi`	`dataw0lf: I haven't found any good reference material yet, so I'm looking at wiki.tcl.tk`
`20:17.46`	`dataw0lf`	`levi: http://expect.nist.gov/`
`20:17.49`	`brac`	`[Expect - Expect - Home Page]`
`20:17.57`	`dataw0lf`	`levi: just use . to match newlines.`
`20:18.35`	`dataw0lf`	`they have some good examples on that page`
`20:22.52`	`dataw0lf`	`levi: for some reason I recall some tool that would take Python Expect code and return the tcl equivalent.`
`20:22.57`	`dataw0lf`	`levi: lemme see if I can find it.`
`20:23.13`	`dataw0lf`	`Unless you prefer tcl over python`
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`20:28.25`	`graphyx`	`you got a USb drive booting to a linux distro?`
`20:28.33`	`graphyx`	`I was trying to do that with gentoo and got hung up on the initrd`
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`20:36.46`	`levi`	`dataw0lf: Our local tcl/expect expert came by and gave me some pointers, and at least I know the basic strategy I want to follow now. Thanks, though.`
`20:42.08`	`herlo`	`graphyx: dataw0lf and I were just discussing feraga on uphpu. here's the link to do what you are trying...thought it might be helpful: http://feraga.com/node/25`
`20:42.25`	`herlo`	`I am still reading it so I can't tell you how cool it is, but it sure looks promising...`
`20:42.51`	`mheath`	`~lart the world`
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`20:48.57`	`dataw0lf`	`levi: cool`
`20:49.19`	`dataw0lf`	`herlo: If you need any help let me know`
`20:49.33`	`dataw0lf`	`I'm installing ubuntu on this key right now for kicks.`
`20:49.33`	`herlo`	`thanks dataw0lf`
`20:49.41`	`herlo`	`how hard is that?`
`20:49.46`	`herlo`	`ubuntu`
`20:49.51`	`dataw0lf`	`very easy if you know the basics`
`20:50.18`	`dataw0lf`	`dmcrypt, deboostrap, etc`
`20:50.22`	`herlo`	`any good docs?`
`20:50.35`	`dataw0lf`	`Ubuntu is Debian, anyways, you can follow that guide and it should work.`
`20:50.47`	`herlo`	`ahh, true`
`20:50.57`	`dataw0lf`	`me and lowkey (Dave, the writer of that doc) worked on the newest edition of the howto to make sure it worked for both sid and ubuntu`
`20:51.42`	`herlo`	`cool, I will try it out tonight (unfortunately, no linux here)`
`20:52.00`	`dataw0lf`	`alright, well I won't be on tonight, but let me know if you have any questions tomorrow.`
`20:52.12`	`herlo`	`will do, ts`
`20:52.13`	`herlo`	`tx`
`20:53.01`	`dataw0lf`	`is there debootstrap or an equivalent in Gentoo?`
`20:53.45`	`herlo`	`with gentoo, you walk through and chroot the envronment yourself. I suppose that means there's gotta be a way, if not automated...`
`20:54.59`	`nick125_`	`to do something like that in gentoo, you grab the stage3 tarball and portage tarball, untar them, chroot, and start emerging stuff..`
`20:55.15`	`dataw0lf`	`so there isn't a automated tool?`
`20:55.33`	`herlo`	`well the tarball would be enough I suppose`
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`20:56.23`	`nick125_`	`doesn't really need to be an automated tool...:)`
`20:56.36`	`sjansen`	`Ha!`
`20:56.58`	`sjansen`	`My boss had an interested lunch conversation at Appleby's today.`
`20:57.16`	`findlay`	`does that mean debootstrap would be more flexible than unpacking a stage3? What kind of cherry picking of deb's does debootstrap that would be different on different hardware?`
`20:57.36`	`sjansen`	`One of the waitresses was loudly expressing her opinion on everything and everything under the sun.`
`20:57.53`	`findlay`	`because you pick the stage3 based on arch`
`20:58.06`	`findlay`	`so I don't really see a difference`
`20:58.47`	`sjansen`	`Eventually she found her way around to commenting on people's food like "Ew, I can't believe you're eating that shrimp." or "That salad has spinach in it. Spinach is gross."`
`20:59.11`	`herlo`	`sjansen: OMG`
`20:59.17`	`sjansen`	`Then she expressed her opinion that hunting is wrong.`
`20:59.23`	`herlo`	`ooooh`
`20:59.25`	`herlo`	`man`
`20:59.31`	`herlo`	`and I know what happened next I bet`
`21:00.05`	`sjansen`	`Shortly followed by a discussion of her love for the south and how excited she was to go home and cook some pork.`
`21:00.39`	`herlo`	`contradictions abound...`
`21:00.53`	`sjansen`	`So my boss asked "Why is it about raising and slaughtering an animal to eat that is not morally reprehensible compared to hunting for food or sport?"`
`21:01.22`	`sjansen`	`She went quiet for quite awhile.`
`21:01.38`	`sjansen`	`Eventually, she said "you're mean".`
`21:01.42`	`sjansen`	`And left.`
`21:01.44`	`herlo`	`good for him`
`21:02.34`	`herlo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:03.22`	`QBFreak`	`I don't think she's going to keep her job long telling customers that what they are eating is gross`
`21:03.30`	`sjansen`	`no kidding`
`21:04.37`	`sjansen`	`Sounds like the manager needs to do some whip cracking.`
`21:05.41`	`sjansen`	`The Appleby's is new. This was the third time he'd been there. The first time they messed up his order. They prompted fixed things. The second time, he was greeted by his waitress with "Oh, you're the complainer."`
`21:06.00`	`QBFreak`	`wow, wonderful service`
`21:06.26`	`QBFreak`	`and it spelled Applebee's :)`
`21:07.00`	`sjansen`	`shows how much I eat there`
`21:07.13`	`QBFreak`	`check out the title: http://www.applebys.com/`
`21:07.16`	`brac`	`[A Basic Example of Frames]`
`21:07.27`	`QBFreak`	`someone needs to do a little more work on the site...`
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`21:07.56`	`findlay`	`lol`
`21:08.12`	`herlo`	`nice site`
`21:08.13`	`QBFreak`	`the whole hting hurts my eyes`
`21:08.23`	`findlay`	`sure you spelled it right?`
`21:08.23`	`herlo`	`just where I wanna go on a Saturday morning with my coffe`
`21:08.24`	`herlo`	`e`
`21:08.45`	`QBFreak`	`findlay: that is not the restaurant site`
`21:08.58`	`QBFreak`	`but it is a business`
`21:09.03`	`dataw0lf-`	`apt-get install discover1 libdiscover1`
`21:09.10`	`dataw0lf-`	`bleh sorry`
`21:09.11`	`QBFreak`	`no!`
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`21:17.41`	`bertbob`	`stupid LyX can't find my fonts`
`21:19.09`	`dataw0lf`	`ah, duh.`
`21:19.17`	`dataw0lf`	`localepurge wasn't working correctly.`
`21:19.49`	`bertbob`	`or for that matter it's fonts either`
`21:21.01`	`QBFreak`	`I think someone broke in and fixed the microwave, it doesn't usually get the bowls quite that hot when I heat up my leftover chinese food`
`21:26.26`	`findlay`	`~lart retarded GWs`
`21:36.45`	`atoponce`	`~lart tuttle city, ok`
`21:37.35`	`atoponce`	`that is actuall fairly appropriate.`
`21:37.38`	`atoponce`	`thanks ibot`
`21:40.19`	`QBFreak`	`what is all this fuss about tuttle ok?`
`21:41.00`	`QBFreak`	`oo they made the register, that can't be good :)`
`21:41.06`	`nick125_`	`lemme guess, the centos thing`
`21:41.11`	`QBFreak`	`yeah`
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`21:44.03`	`maquis`	`QBFreak: did you really not hear about that til now?`
`21:44.18`	`QBFreak`	`I live in a hole`
`21:44.23`	`QBFreak`	`under a rock`
`21:45.17`	`nick125_`	`QBFreak: figures`
`21:45.48`	`sjansen`	`Can you get cheap high speed there?`
`21:47.01`	`vontrapp`	`maquis: hear of what?`
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`21:48.43`	`maquis`	`-lart vontrapp`
`21:48.44`	`levi`	`dataw0lf: So, apparently this expect-like language was not even full expect, so the expect guru's tips did me no good. But I was able to find a way to get it to work anyway.`
`21:49.45`	`sjansen`	`~haha levi`
`21:49.47`	`ibot`	`ACTION beats levi about the head with the ha ha bat`
`21:49.58`	`levi`	`~lart sjansen`
`21:51.25`	`vontrapp`	`-lart maquis`
`21:51.31`	`vontrapp`	`hoho`
`21:51.36`	`vontrapp`	`have fun with that`
`21:51.38`	`levi`	`vontrapp: She'd probably /like/ that!`
`21:51.46`	`maquis`	`~beat vontrapp`
`21:51.47`	`ibot`	`ACTION beats vontrapp with a wetfish`
`21:52.16`	`findlay`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:52.33`	`findlay`	`can you be a little more vague than that? Huh? HUH!??`
`21:52.55`	`findlay`	`~lart GW retardation`
`21:52.56`	`levi`	`findlay: An error has occurred`
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`21:54.18`	`QBFreak`	`heh, I think the only words in this song are "here we go"`
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`22:04.32`	`tensai`	`~lart sjansen`
`22:05.56`	`nick125_`	`ibot: the cd would shadder at 50,000 rpm..lol`
`22:06.21`	`nick125_`	`it would actually shadder way before it got to 50k rpm`
`22:06.25`	`sjansen`	`Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!`
`22:06.36`	`herlo`	`nick125_: mythbusters?`
`22:06.46`	`nick125_`	`herlo: no..`
`22:06.57`	`herlo`	`really, I saw it on there...it was cool`
`22:07.05`	`findlay`	`~spell shatter`
`22:07.28`	`herlo`	`I think the word may have been shudder? :-D`
`22:07.46`	`findlay`	`perhaps a healthy mixture of both`
`22:07.46`	`nick125_`	`I remeber reading somewhere that the reasons that cd-rom drives won't get faster is because that it would shatter above 60x or something like that`
`22:08.11`	`findlay`	`just add more lasers`
`22:08.16`	`herlo`	`its true, I think its closer to 80x but yeah`
`22:08.16`	`vontrapp`	`not shatter, but it would distort to the point the laser couldn't read`
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`22:08.27`	`findlay`	`besides spinning disks really fast is noisy`
`22:08.30`	`herlo`	`the shattering anyway`
`22:08.43`	`vontrapp`	`not to mention the cleanup`
`22:08.45`	`nick125_`	`well, I couldn't remember the exact speed it would shatter at..`
`22:08.46`	`QBFreak`	`cracked or otherwise weakened discs can shatter in existing drives`
`22:08.49`	`findlay`	`and all the bits would fly off`
`22:08.52`	`nick125_`	`QBFreak: yeah..`
`22:09.02`	`tensai`	`my halflife disc shattered in the drive`
`22:09.07`	`QBFreak`	`ack`
`22:09.26`	`findlay`	`I always do /sbin/hdparm -E 1 /dev/hdc for audio CDs`
`22:09.27`	`herlo`	`the mythbusters guys did it at 10000 rpms and it lasted about a half second before it literally exploded`
`22:09.29`	`tensai`	`never figured out why exactly, but I didn't use that drive any more`
`22:09.44`	`QBFreak`	`placing discs on a cd player motor, applying 4.5v and shaving with a knife can also cause them to shatter...`
`22:09.45`	`findlay`	`because they don't need to be read any faster than that`
`22:11.19`	`tensai`	`findlay: they do when you rip them as mp3, which is the only time I ever put audio cds in the computer`
`22:11.41`	`QBFreak`	`yeah`
`22:11.58`	`QBFreak`	`what is really sad, I hardly listen to the CDs that I never got around to ripping...`
`22:12.17`	`QBFreak`	`cause I'd much rather stick several hours of music in my car player :)`
`22:13.49`	`vontrapp`	`findlay: i'll take and rip your cd's for you`
`22:13.50`	`findlay`	`besides I don't even have a hard drive big enough`
`22:14.07`	`nick125_`	`findlay: how many cds?`
`22:14.08`	`findlay`	`for fully compressed flacs`
`22:14.10`	`QBFreak`	`once I find a linux solution I could have my loader do it`
`22:14.23`	`findlay`	`nick125_: about 950`
`22:14.45`	`findlay`	`still don't have Bach 2000`
`22:15.35`	`nick125_`	`findlay: then get a 2TB network storage box :)`
`22:15.54`	`QBFreak`	`maxtor sells a 1TB USB HDD`
`22:16.09`	`QBFreak`	`I bet it makes a good doorstop...`
`22:16.19`	`nick125_`	`QBFreak: in linux, probably`
`22:17.09`	`QBFreak`	`yeah, I don't know how specialized it is, their single-drive external drives work fine in linux though`
`22:17.47`	`QBFreak`	`other than I gave it a volume label that contains a space and it fails to unmount when I shutdown :)`
`22:18.19`	`nick125_`	`lol`
`22:26.14`	`tensai`	`~me is jealous of this guy. http://www.ntscblog.com/2006/04/5-hour-smoked-chicken-chili.html`
`22:26.15`	`ibot`	`moi?`
`22:26.24`	`tensai`	`er, I mean /me`
`22:26.27`	`tensai`	`ibot: sorry`
`22:26.29`	`ibot`	`ACTION appologizes profusely to everyone, points at the spammers, and says: "IT WAS THEM, THEY MADE ME DO IT!!!"`
`22:27.26`	`tensai`	`I've been searching for the correct terra cotta pots to make a smoker ala alton brown, and this guy did it. why can't I?`
`22:27.58`	`herlo`	`tensai: that looks good`
`22:28.33`	`herlo`	`last year, lars-ut invited me to a southern bbq where they had pulled pork and fried catfish. Best southern food I'd had to that point in my life. Right here in utah`
`22:28.44`	`herlo`	`the chicken kind of reminded me of it`
`22:29.19`	`tensai`	`herlo: sounds good. stop tormenting me. I've had this smoker budgeted for 6 months but I can't find 1 piece.`
`22:30.26`	`herlo`	`ohman, sorry, tensai`
`22:30.30`	`sjansen`	`~haha tensai`
`22:30.32`	`ibot`	`ACTION beats tensai about the head with the ha ha bat`
`22:30.42`	`findlay`	`~hahahaha`
`22:30.43`	`ibot`	`hahahaha is probably ahahahah`
`22:30.54`	`findlay`	`~ha`
`22:30.55`	`ibot`	`Sugar: scotch on the rocks`
`22:31.01`	`findlay`	`ibot: whatever`
`22:31.02`	`ibot`	`well, whatever is an expression of confusionambivalence, or something else`
`22:32.24`	`QBFreak`	`it can't be that hard to get a random integer in python...arg`
`22:34.15`	`QBFreak`	`who was talking about groove salad? they're playing Tulku - Anni Rose which is another song I need toget....`
`22:34.31`	`QBFreak`	`and I must go eat dinner instead of listening :(`
`22:35.37`	`levi`	`tensai: What piece are you missing?`
`22:35.46`	`levi`	`tensai: I want one too!`
`22:36.09`	`tensai`	`levi: the top pot. I can only find the shallow pots in 8" sizes`
`22:36.54`	`tensai`	`I could use a regular pot, but they're heavy`
`22:40.25`	`tensai`	`ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault]`
`22:40.30`	`tensai`	`that doesn't sound good`
`22:40.56`	`nick125_`	`uh oh`
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`22:43.37`	`findlay`	`programming whose end result is supposed to be useful for joe user is boring`
`22:44.07`	`findlay`	`give me pointless stuff to program and I'm happy`
`22:46.08`	`nick125_`	`stupid directadmin..activate this damn license!!`
`22:47.39`	`levi`	`tensai: Where have you looked so far?`
`22:48.06`	`tensai`	`levi: all the home stores and nurseries`
`22:48.25`	`levi`	`Hmm.`
`22:48.31`	`levi`	`That's disappointing.`
`22:48.54`	`tensai`	`I know. clearly this guy found one though. they must be out there, roaming the plains. huge herds of wild terra cotta.`
`22:50.56`	`tensai`	`any idea on alternatives? I want something that'll keep the heat in, otherwise I'd just buy a read made steel smoker. but it has to be big enough for a rack of ribs.`
`22:51.16`	`tensai`	`I know AB also used a metal garbage can once (clean of course)`
`22:51.45`	`tensai`	`er, s/read made/ready made/`
`22:52.31`	`levi`	`Are there any terra cotta pot saucers (or whatever they're called) big enough?`
`22:53.17`	`levi`	`The things that catch water that seeps out the holes in the bottom of a pot.`
`22:54.32`	`tensai`	`hmm. I dunno. those only have to fit around the bottom which is smaller, so I can't see them making huge ones.`
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`23:00.05`	`findlay`	`the internet keeps breaking`
`23:00.06`	`findlay`	`do you think I can get a refund?`
`23:00.06`	`atoponce`	`it's the commies!`
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`23:01.13`	`levi`	`Hmm.`
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`23:03.01`	`atoponce`	`i say we send nukes`
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`23:03.12`	`findlay`	`~nuke internet`
`23:03.13`	`ibot`	`ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at internet ... B☢☢M!`
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`23:03.13`	`findlay`	`~nuke`
`23:03.15`	`ibot`	methinks nuke is vt. 1. To intentionally delete the entire contents of a given directory or storage volume. "On UNIX, `rm -r /usr' will nuke everything in the usr filesystem." Never used for accidental deletion. Oppose {blow away}. 2. Syn. for dike, applied to smaller things such as files, features, or code sections. Often used to express a final verdict. "What do ...
`23:03.16`	`findlay`	`ibot: you're boring`
`23:03.17`	`atoponce`	`~destroy`
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`23:08.00`	`atoponce`	`methinks freenode is having some issues?`
`23:08.00`	`atoponce`	`~lart freenode`
`23:08.01`	`orbit`	`I think this is bigger than freenode`
`23:08.01`	`atoponce`	`conspiracy?`
`23:08.01`	`findlay`	`I blame canada and TERRORISTS!!`
`23:08.01`	`atoponce`	`i blame the chinese commies`
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`23:08.58`	`vontrapp`	`~blame indigestion`
`23:09.00`	`ibot`	`ACTION blames indigestion for all the evil in the world`
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`23:10.26`	`findlay`	`~blame retarded GWs`
`23:10.29`	`ibot`	`ACTION blames retarded GWs for all the evil in the world`
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`23:11.15`	`ibot`	`ACTION blames findlay for all the evil in the world`
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