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| 00:09.26 | nick125 | lol |
| 00:12.27 | QBFreak | I don't think it is |
| 00:15.59 | nick125 | i think you are right :P |
| 00:16.22 | QBFreak | it's not like it's turning on and off, but sometimes the brightness flickers |
| 00:16.59 | nick125 | try it in a different usb port? |
| 00:17.19 | QBFreak | I might, not really using the device anyway |
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| 00:34.38 | sersport | hi |
| 00:34.50 | QBFreak | hello |
| 00:35.08 | sersport | Where are you from? |
| 00:35.19 | QBFreak | the internet |
| 00:35.29 | nick125 | QBFreak: Really? me too! |
| 00:35.33 | sersport | I live in Moscow |
| 00:35.34 | nick125 | :) |
| 00:35.48 | QBFreak | nick125: such a small network |
| 00:36.11 | nick125 | QBFreak: i know.. |
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| 00:39.57 | nick125 | Wireless sucks.. |
| 00:40.23 | nick125 | I need to wire my room to my ethernet switch so I can access my laptop from my main box.. |
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| 02:06.58 | nick125 | anyone here know TCP/UDP/those_other_data_transport_methods really well? |
| 02:11.06 | ScytheBlade1 | What about them? |
| 02:12.07 | nick125 | I need someone that understands the concepts, and the packet structures |
| 02:12.16 | nick125 | well, understands them better then me :) |
| 02:12.25 | nick125 | or could provide some opinions |
| 02:15.34 | nick125 | ScytheBlade1: you know stuff about them? |
| 02:16.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Enough to answer most of your questions, I'd imagine |
| 02:16.11 | nick125 | ScytheBlade1: join #KSP then :) |
| 03:05.56 | maquis | emcnabb: cool |
| 03:07.25 | emcnabb | not cool |
| 03:11.44 | maquis | emcnabb: why not? |
| 03:12.14 | emcnabb | it's not easy by any means |
| 03:12.33 | maquis | true... but it sounds like an interesting challenge... and you should get some great quotes for rinkworks.com/stupid :) |
| 03:13.17 | maquis | emcnabb: out of curiosity, how'd you end up with the job of helping out? |
| 03:15.14 | QBFreak | eh |
| 03:47.15 | emcnabb | our friends of the family moved down there |
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| 04:25.59 | maquis | emcnabb: col |
| 04:26.11 | maquis | @#$%! stupid project! |
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| 04:29.44 | nick125_ | maquis: what project? |
| 04:29.55 | maquis | midterm report for machine learning |
| 04:36.15 | tensai | maquis: school's not worth it. just give up now. I'm sure Amazon will understand. |
| 04:36.22 | maquis | tensai: haha |
| 04:36.24 | maquis | nice try |
| 04:38.10 | emcnabb | there's no hope; everything is against you |
| 04:38.12 | emcnabb | there's no way out |
| 04:38.15 | emcnabb | give up now |
| 04:38.20 | maquis | emcnabb: hey... it feels like that right now |
| 04:38.29 | emcnabb | how's that for a motivational speech? |
| 04:38.33 | maquis | emcnabb: great :) |
| 04:38.35 | nick125_ | lol |
| 04:38.46 | maquis | you should speak at a high school graduation or something |
| 04:40.58 | emcnabb | "You've all graduated from high school. Woop dee freakin' do. You're not going to amount to squat in life. If you were a loser in high school, you'll be a loser for the rest of your life. If you were "popular", just remember... a lot of losers liked you." |
| 04:41.16 | emcnabb | that |
| 04:41.17 | tensai | you'll be living in a van down by the river |
| 04:41.23 | emcnabb | 's what I would end up saying |
| 04:41.27 | emcnabb | tensai: :-) |
| 04:41.34 | emcnabb | I have that clip, it's a classic |
| 04:41.37 | tensai | best. snl. ever. |
| 04:42.00 | tensai | emcnabb: ooh. dcc? |
| 04:42.14 | emcnabb | dcc? |
| 04:42.50 | tensai | will you send it to me? |
| 04:42.55 | emcnabb | yeah, hold on |
| 04:43.04 | emcnabb | uploading right now |
| 04:43.14 | emcnabb | it will be a minute or two |
| 04:43.20 | tensai | sweet |
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| 04:46.44 | emcnabb | 50% done |
| 04:51.08 | emcnabb | http://evan.mcnabbs.org/tmp/SNL-Chris_Farley-Matt_Foley_Motivational_Speaker.mpg |
| 04:51.53 | emcnabb | tensai: I agree, it's one of my favorite skits ever |
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| 04:52.41 | tensai | emcnabb: awesome. you're my hero for the day. |
| 04:52.53 | emcnabb | haha |
| 04:53.41 | maquis | me too! :) |
| 04:53.58 | Newsome | emcnabb has been my hero for years now! |
| 04:54.59 | emcnabb | Newsome: long time no talk to |
| 04:55.18 | Newsome | yeah. I've been so busy I haven't hardly even been online |
| 04:55.27 | emcnabb | enjoying it out there? |
| 04:55.36 | Newsome | so far. |
| 04:55.46 | emcnabb | back "home" |
| 04:56.08 | Newsome | Yeah. It's certainly a different 'pace' than out in Utah |
| 04:56.40 | emcnabb | I bet, commuting downtown and all |
| 04:57.18 | emcnabb | you taking the Metra to work? |
| 04:57.56 | Newsome | yeah. It's about 41 minutes either way |
| 04:58.19 | Newsome | but the station is only about 2 blocks from where I work |
| 04:58.29 | emcnabb | not bad at all |
| 04:58.35 | emcnabb | compared to driving |
| 04:59.01 | Newsome | also, it's nice to be away from BYU. I was there way too long |
| 04:59.08 | maquis | Newsome: haha |
| 05:01.37 | Newsome | our first truck of stuff finally showed up on Friday. It has all those essential things, such as my lawnmower and ladders. We'll supposedly get the other truck tomorrow. |
| 05:02.19 | Newsome | That's the truck with all the useless things, such as our fridge, beds, my UPS, couches, and the TV |
| 05:02.19 | emcnabb | it will feel nice to be finally settled in |
| 05:02.29 | emcnabb | haha |
| 05:04.32 | Newsome | If anyone is looking for a good book, I just finished "Battle Of Wits: The Complete Story of Codebreaking in World War II" and would recommend it - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0684859327/102-4873640-4879351?v=glance&n=283155 |
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| 05:40.25 | levi | maquis: Why are you anxious to leave Utah? |
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| 06:01.19 | maquis | levi: cuz... then i'll be out of school, and won't have homework anymore |
| 06:01.36 | maquis | and i'll be working and actually getting real money |
| 06:01.53 | levi | Well, it's also possible to be out of school and not have homework and still live in Utah. |
| 06:02.14 | maquis | true... |
| 06:02.25 | maquis | but since my job is not in utah... |
| 06:18.30 | maquis | levi: who doesn't like smacking jellis upside the head |
| 06:22.48 | levi | I dunno. I can't imagine anyone wouldn't enjoy it. |
| 06:28.04 | maquis | ok... that project's off |
| 06:28.08 | maquis | now i should do some chem hw |
| 06:28.22 | maquis | and then i really need to work on the cs460 project that i was supposed to start a week ago |
| 06:28.35 | maquis | and i need to take a stat test this week |
| 06:40.29 | levi | Fun, fun. |
| 06:40.37 | maquis | :( |
| 06:40.37 | levi | You going to pass all these classes? |
| 06:40.58 | maquis | i'd better |
| 06:41.01 | maquis | i'm scared, though |
| 06:44.28 | levi | Sounds scary. |
| 06:44.29 | maquis | if i fail anything, A) my parents will throw a *fit*, and B) i'll have to do some *really* ugly stuff schedule-wise to get done in august |
| 06:44.51 | levi | Just buckle down and keep at it. You're too close to give up now. |
| 06:44.56 | maquis | yeah |
| 06:53.10 | QBFreak | scorpius looks...disturbing |
| 07:00.09 | levi | Heh. It's amazing that the level of commenter intelligence on Digg seems even worse than on Slashdot. |
| 07:00.33 | emcnabb | levi: I've observed the same things |
| 07:00.47 | emcnabb | I haven't really started to dig digg |
| 07:01.02 | levi | The article selection is often interesting, but the comments are worthless. |
| 07:01.20 | levi | Unless you feel like gawking at the dregs of humanity. |
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| 07:09.03 | emcnabb | haha |
| 07:22.55 | emcnabb | time for bed; night all |
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| 17:10.15 | *** topic/#utah is The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com, utaug.org. |
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| 17:10.41 | maquis | now we just have to get elg to bring back brac |
| 17:10.41 | jsmith | ibot! |
| 17:10.48 | maquis | ibot: welcome back |
| 17:10.51 | ibot | Welcome to the party, back! |
| 17:11.04 | maquis | erm... yeah..... |
| 17:11.12 | TimRiker | ibot: wb |
| 17:11.14 | ibot | It's great to be back! |
| 17:14.34 | harleypig | http://bash.org/?625311 |
| 17:22.52 | maquis | :) |
| 17:23.19 | levi | This is cool: http://scriptaculous.seasidehosting.st/ |
| 17:23.43 | levi | In the demo section, you can click on 'view source' links to see the source code for the widgets. |
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| 17:25.03 | maquis | ooh |
| 17:25.11 | maquis | the drag-and-drop shopping cart is pretty cool |
| 17:29.55 | maquis | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/03/huge_vulnerabil.html |
| 17:31.10 | lars-ut | ibot, you're useless |
| 17:31.12 | ibot | ACTION starts crying and hides from lars-ut in the darkest corner of the room. :( |
| 17:31.19 | lars-ut | now that we've established the proper context for that relationship... |
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| 17:32.10 | TimRiker | ibot knows all |
| 17:32.12 | ibot | and don't you forget it |
| 17:32.17 | maquis | elg: can we have brac back? |
| 17:32.32 | lars-ut | maquis: Space Ghost has him. |
| 17:32.34 | TimRiker | or better yet a patch to ibot to add brac features? ;-) |
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| 17:32.45 | lars-ut | ah. |
| 17:32.53 | lars-ut | -urls 10 |
| 17:32.54 | brac | [2006/03/03 21:03:23] <dilvie> http://tinyurl.com/qah9z |
| 17:32.55 | brac | [2006/03/03 16:55:19] <jsmith> http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=171274 |
| 17:32.55 | brac | [2006/03/03 15:10:43] <mrpull-> http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=301&p=1 |
| 17:32.55 | brac | [2006/03/03 14:55:49] <dataw0lf> http://wheel.blogs.com/rani/millionaire.jpg |
| 17:32.56 | brac | [2006/03/03 14:47:19] <levi> http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/curves.jpg |
| 17:32.57 | maquis | TimRiker: that would work |
| 17:32.58 | brac | [2006/03/03 13:26:07] <findlay> http://www.pool.ntp.org/ |
| 17:33.00 | brac | [2006/03/03 11:42:04] <dataw0lf> http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=729 |
| 17:33.02 | brac | [2006/03/03 10:21:48] <lars-ut> http://www.papabear.com/tldiscog.htm |
| 17:33.04 | brac | [2006/03/03 09:51:42] <lars-ut> http://uug.byu.edu/events.php?id=175 |
| 17:33.05 | elg | TimRiker: you'd want a patch that converts ibot to ruby? |
| 17:33.06 | brac | [2006/03/03 09:51:01] <lars-ut> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0153740/#writer |
| 17:33.27 | maquis | doh... |
| 17:34.20 | lars-ut | ~spell doh |
| 17:34.31 | lars-ut | D'oh |
| 17:34.52 | elg | maquis: there have been two security updates for gpg since that announcement. you probably don't have the security stuff in sources.list |
| 17:34.52 | tensai | elg: (re: pack/unpack) didn't you have the same problem a while ago with some other language? |
| 17:35.01 | elg | it was ruby. I just didn't fix it |
| 17:35.28 | elg | I just noticed it and went on a crusade to find out why and report the bug. apple said "cool, thanks" |
| 17:35.43 | elg | I figured I'd need it someday, and that day has come |
| 17:36.32 | TimRiker | elg: heh. feel free to create a ruby version of ibot if you like. not a small project though. |
| 17:36.49 | elg | hence brac |
| 17:37.07 | elg | it was easier to grab an rbot and add the things I wanted than to relearn enough perl to add it to ibot |
| 17:37.22 | elg | not to mention finding you... you were harder to find back then. :) |
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| 17:39.32 | levi | Fun. :) |
| 17:39.40 | levi | elg: Want to switch classes? ;) |
| 17:39.50 | elg | oh yeah. especially since I'm making a synthesizer |
| 17:41.01 | jsmith | elg: Send me one! |
| 17:41.08 | jsmith | elg: I wanna do DSP programming! |
| 17:41.38 | elg | they're bolted to the lab computers. sorry :) |
| 17:41.46 | jsmith | figures... |
| 17:42.04 | elg | they're actually inside a drive bay |
| 17:42.14 | elg | and zip tied, not bolted |
| 17:42.28 | jsmith | elg: I wouldn't want to steal from your school... |
| 17:42.30 | elg | well maybe there's a bolt in back |
| 17:42.50 | levi | I wish I had time to play with the cool FPGA boards we built, aside from doing linux userland stuff on them. |
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| 17:53.30 | Jayce^ | interesting.... |
| 17:53.53 | Jayce^ | 3.16.06 UITA Industry Breakfast in Utah County |
| 17:53.53 | Jayce^ | ?Fight Change You Die ? Affect Change You Thrive? presented by Ralph Yarro |
| 17:53.54 | Jayce^ | The next UITA Utah County Industry Breakfast will feature long-time Utah entrepreneur Ralph Yarro. He will discuss the need to embrace and affect change to successfully build businesses and protect ourselves. Mr. Yarro is Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer of ThinkAtomic, a high-tech incubator, think tank and venture accelerator (Full Bio). To register, visit http://www.uita.org/events/register031606.htm. |
| 17:53.54 | Jayce^ | 3.16.06 UITA Industry Breakfast in Utah County |
| 17:53.55 | Jayce^ | ?Fight Change You Die ? Affect Change You Thrive? presented by Ralph Yarro |
| 17:53.58 | Jayce^ | The next UITA Utah County Industry Breakfast will feature long-time Utah entrepreneur Ralph Yarro. He will discuss the need to embrace and affect change to successfully build businesses and protect ourselves. Mr. Yarro is Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer of ThinkAtomic, a high-tech incubator, think tank and venture accelerator (Full Bio). To register, visit http://www.uita.org/events/register031606.htm. |
| 17:54.03 | Jayce^ | 3.16.06 UITA Industry Breakfast in Utah County |
| 17:54.04 | Jayce^ | ?Fight Change You Die ? Affect Change You Thrive? presented by Ralph Yarro |
| 17:54.06 | Jayce^ | The next UITA Utah County Industry Breakfast will feature long-time Utah entrepreneur Ralph Yarro. He will discuss the need to embrace and affect change to successfully build businesses and protect ourselves. Mr. Yarro is Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer of ThinkAtomic, a high-tech incubator, think tank and venture accelerator (Full Bio). To register, visit http://www.uita.org/events/register031606.htm. |
| 17:54.12 | Jayce^ | 3.16.06 UITA Industry Breakfast in Utah County |
| 17:54.13 | Jayce^ | ?Fight Change You Die ? Affect Change You Thrive? presented by Ralph Yarro |
| 17:54.16 | Jayce^ | The next UITA Utah County Industry Breakfast will feature long-time Utah entrepreneur Ralph Yarro. He will discuss the need to embrace and affect change to successfully build businesses and protect ourselves. Mr. Yarro is Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer of ThinkAtomic, a high-tech incubator, think tank and venture accelerator (Full Bio). To register, visit http://www.uita.org/events/register031606.htm. |
| 17:54.22 | Jayce^ | hrm, can't copy.... 1 second |
| 17:54.25 | Jayce^ | arghhh |
| 17:54.30 | Jayce^ | ~lart xchat2 |
| 17:59.23 | jalance__ | way to spam |
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| 18:10.14 | emcnabb | sjansen is just a lonely little bit |
| 18:10.38 | sjansen | o/~ Get perpendicular! ~/o |
| 18:11.41 | goozbach | that song should DIE!!! |
| 18:12.56 | emcnabb | goozbach: you know you love it |
| 18:19.34 | lars-ut | ~toms diner |
| 18:19.36 | ibot | it has been said that toms diner is "There's a woman on the outside looking inside Does she see me? No she does not really see me cause she sees her own reflection And I'm trying not to notice that she's hitching up her skirt And while she's straightening her stockings her hair Is getting wet Oh, this rain it will continue through the morning as I'm listening To ... |
| 18:19.41 | sjansen | o/~ We all live in a yellow submarine. ~/o |
| 18:20.13 | lars-ut | ~bene gesserit |
| 18:20.15 | ibot | methinks bene gesserit is "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." |
| 18:22.01 | sjansen | ibot, no bene gesserit is <say> I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. |
| 18:22.02 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 18:22.12 | sjansen | ~bene gesserit |
| 18:22.14 | ibot | well, bene gesserit is <say> I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. |
| 18:22.28 | sjansen | ibot, no bene gesserit is <reply> I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. |
| 18:22.29 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 18:22.32 | sjansen | ~bene gesserit |
| 18:22.34 | ibot | I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. |
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| 18:24.31 | sjansen | gthornock is the mind killer |
| 18:25.47 | lars-ut | sjansen: that's funny - I was correcting the factoid in a pm to ibot at the same time. |
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| 18:26.25 | lars-ut | toms diner is a reply now as well |
| 18:26.55 | sjansen | ~mindkill lars-ut |
| 18:27.12 | lars-ut | oops |
| 18:27.16 | sjansen | ~fart emcnabb |
| 18:27.17 | ibot | ACTION farts in emcnabb's general direction |
| 18:28.13 | sjansen | thanks |
| 18:28.32 | lars-ut-dead | np |
| 18:29.10 | lars-ut-dead | Medic! Cleric! |
| 18:30.46 | lars-ut-dead | well the launch, not the blast |
| 18:35.10 | Jayce^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.22 | jsmith | ~revive lars-ut-dead |
| 18:35.34 | jsmith | It's alive! |
| 18:35.38 | lars-ut | I'm feeling much better now. |
| 18:35.42 | lars-ut | I feel happy! |
| 18:36.01 | jsmith | Happy happy joy joy.... happy happy joy... |
| 18:36.31 | lars-ut | YoI told you I wouldn't shoot... but ya' didn't listen! |
| 18:36.55 | lars-ut | The little creatures.. they don't know they're ugly |
| 18:37.14 | lars-ut | Ifn you ain't the granddaddy of all liars! |
| 18:38.18 | Jayce^ | jsmith's song reminds jayce to pull his recent download of that entire series down from his server |
| 18:38.35 | jsmith | Jayce^: You're welcome! |
| 18:38.47 | sjansen | Powdered toast man! |
| 18:38.50 | jsmith | Jayce^: Glad I could be of assistance... |
| 18:38.51 | Jayce^ | 10gb of Ren and stimpy.... mmm |
| 18:39.01 | Jayce^ | complete series |
| 18:39.33 | lars-ut | It's log... |
| 18:39.54 | Jayce^ | It's lo-og |
| 18:40.07 | lars-ut | jsmith: I think I have no choice but to put Ren & Stimpy on the projector tomorrow night. |
| 18:41.23 | goozbach | ~cyberhack sjansen |
| 18:42.24 | goozbach | I've got the old .wad files around here somewheres |
| 18:42.57 | lars-ut | hmmm... |
| 18:43.39 | goozbach | doh I cannot ssh into my box at home |
| 18:43.46 | goozbach | what happened? |
| 18:43.48 | goozbach | gaa!!! |
| 18:44.16 | jsmith | goozbach: Your network cable was cut by a squirrel. |
| 18:44.33 | jsmith | goozbach: On a good note, the squirrel survived the shock... |
| 18:44.37 | nick125 | damn evil squirrels.. |
| 18:44.38 | sjansen | you combined port knocking and ssh-lockout |
| 18:44.44 | jsmith | Doh! |
| 18:46.03 | RyanE | the strange part is, the squirrel didn't actually gnaw through it, but the squirrel was caught by a loose boa, whose digestive juices have eaten through the cable. |
| 18:46.41 | lars-ut | goozbach: could have been the Cacodemon patch you installed... that would explain the evil sqirrels, but not necessarily the boa. |
| 18:48.02 | lars-ut | ~idchoppers |
| 18:48.03 | ibot | Doesn't suck - GM |
| 18:48.20 | goozbach | I just blame the faulty wiring in my house |
| 18:48.26 | goozbach | installed in the 1920s |
| 18:51.00 | lars-ut | ~muddy mudskipper |
| 18:51.02 | ibot | Who's the greatest mudskipper of them all? (dun, dun, dun). Who can skip in the mud without scraping his knees? What kind of wonderful guy? It's Muddy - Mudskipper - he's Muddy - Mudskipper -- it's the MUDDY-- MUDDD --- Skiippperrrr SHOOWWWW!!! |
| 18:52.46 | graphyx | ~show muddy |
| 18:53.53 | lars-ut | graphyx: try ~literal |
| 18:54.03 | lars-ut | both words though |
| 18:54.18 | graphyx | ~literal muddy |
| 18:54.34 | graphyx | nvm i don't really care |
| 18:54.37 | lars-ut | ~literal Stinky Whizzleteats |
| 18:54.39 | ibot | "stinky whizzleteats" is "<reply> I'll teach you to be happy! I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs!" |
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| 19:00.20 | lars-ut | ~emulate Ren |
| 19:00.21 | ibot | You eeediot! |
| 19:00.32 | lars-ut | ~emulate Ren |
| 19:00.34 | ibot | What is it, man? |
| 19:00.45 | lars-ut | ~botsnack |
| 19:00.46 | ibot | lars-ut: thanks |
| 19:00.59 | lars-ut | ~botsmack |
| 19:01.01 | ibot | OWW! |
| 19:06.07 | sjansen | ~smack elg |
| 19:06.08 | ibot | ACTION smacks elg upside the head. |
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| 19:19.35 | sjansen | for some reason python's function vs method, expression vs statement issues make me feel like I'm programming in pascal again |
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| 19:35.50 | synic | sjansen: "function vs method, expression vs statement issues" ? |
| 19:36.15 | lars-ut | any way to mount a Samba share in an empty NTFS folder? |
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| 19:38.48 | maquis | http://tuxgirl.com/photography/branch-snow.jpg |
| 19:40.41 | elg | that looks like a branch with snow on it |
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| 19:46.13 | sjansen | elg: I'd argue it looks more like snow with a branch under it. |
| 19:46.41 | maquis | haha |
| 19:47.12 | elg | sjansen: you would |
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| 20:03.31 | levi | "Can Programming Be Liberated from the von Neumann Style? A Functional Style and Its Algebra of Programs" |
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| 20:05.34 | sjansen | http://denbeste.nu/Chizumatic/tmw/TheMatrix.shtml |
| 20:05.36 | brac | [Chizumatic - Too many words about The Matrix] |
| 20:07.20 | goozbach | sjansen: where'd you get that link? |
| 20:07.31 | goozbach | I just sent it out to a bunch of other channels |
| 20:08.12 | maquis | http://www.google.com/mars/ |
| 20:08.13 | brac | [Google Mars] |
| 20:11.11 | sjansen | goozbach: you know that answer to that |
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| 20:23.04 | QBFreak | this really annoys me, with winamp in window-shade mode on the second display, if I open anything full-screen (game, video) or let the screensaver run, suddenly the main window no longer stays on-top, even though the box is checked |
| 20:26.30 | sjansen | It's a sign that you should to Linux. |
| 20:27.09 | sjansen | ~curse emcnabb |
| 20:27.11 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, emcnabb ! |
| 20:27.59 | QBFreak | ha, I vote we make him a WinME administrator! |
| 20:28.16 | emcnabb | dang you sjansen |
| 20:28.49 | RyanE | or even better, a Win95, SP1 admin! |
| 20:29.24 | maquis | ME would be the worst |
| 20:29.33 | maquis | ~mock emcnabb |
| 20:29.37 | ibot | ACTION pulls emcnabb's pants down and shows the world emcnabb's pink spotted underwear |
| 20:29.37 | QBFreak | (for me that is) |
| 20:29.44 | graphyx | DoS is easy to maintan. |
| 20:29.48 | graphyx | It just hard to do anything with |
| 20:30.02 | QBFreak | DOS != DoS |
| 20:30.23 | graphyx | right. |
| 20:31.15 | sjansen | it is |
| 20:31.39 | QBFreak | it did its best to tie up all his connections :) |
| 20:32.10 | graphyx | I did mean DOS |
| 20:32.27 | sjansen | suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure |
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| 20:45.02 | amcnabb | Has anyone ever heard Redhat 9 referred to as RHEL9? |
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| 20:45.30 | maquis | amcnabb: no... |
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| 20:47.47 | sjansen | nope, least of all by anyone clueful |
| 20:50.51 | jsmith | amcnabb: Nope... |
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| 20:58.53 | brac | [Chizumatic - Too many words about The Matrix] |
| 20:59.06 | lars-ut | neat analysis. |
| 20:59.22 | lars-ut | thanks, sjansen |
| 20:59.48 | nick125_ | anyone here use xinetd? I'm trying to write a python script for xinetd to run, but, it seems xinetd ignores stdout and stdin.. |
| 21:02.13 | QBFreak | anyone know a good (easy?) way to pass a string to a function that wants a stream? |
| 21:02.26 | RyanE_ | language? |
| 21:02.29 | QBFreak | perl sorry |
| 21:05.32 | amcnabb | maquis and jsmith, thanks |
| 21:06.39 | maquis | amcnabb: did you hear someone refer to it that way? |
| 21:07.16 | sjansen | ~worms amcnabb |
| 21:08.12 | sjansen | nick125_: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 21:08.27 | amcnabb | maquis, someone claimed they've heard it called that. |
| 21:08.59 | maquis | amcnabb: weird |
| 21:09.15 | sjansen | ~lart amcnabb & maquis & the whole cruel world |
| 21:09.24 | maquis | hey! |
| 21:10.26 | nick125_ | sjansen: I'm making a python script that wraps around xen.xm.console, that checks a simple auth.. |
| 21:10.27 | nick125_ | then, that script will get executed by xinetd so it can be logged into remotely |
| 21:18.21 | sjansen | nick125_: what do you mean by "ignoring stdout and stdin"? |
| 21:19.23 | goozbach | nick125_: xm console is clear text |
| 21:19.41 | goozbach | you should just use ssh and force them to use that command |
| 21:20.34 | nick125_ | goozbach: well, i need root access for xm |
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| 21:21.24 | nick125_ | otherwise you get some XenStore permission denied errors |
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| 21:29.06 | sjansen | nick125_: what do you mean by "ignoring stdout and stdin"? |
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| 21:56.42 | sjansen | http://blog.ianbicking.org/python-nit-chapter-1.html |
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| 22:00.48 | nick125_ | sjansen: sorry, i had to leave..ok, when i say ignore, i mean, when i connect to it though telnet, nothing that was printed to the terminal that was written to stdout |
| 22:01.56 | sjansen | nick125_: could you refrase in the form of a grammatically correct statement? |
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| 22:02.36 | sjansen | use lots of words |
| 22:02.56 | nick125_ | nothing that is printed by the python script to stdout is sent though the xinetd socket.. |
| 22:04.21 | sjansen | So you've got xinetd listening on a part. When you connect to it (using telnet) it starts a python script. The python script prints something to stdout. That something doesn't show up in your telnet session. Am I understanding you? |
| 22:04.33 | sjansen | s/part/port/ |
| 22:04.45 | nick125_ | correct.. |
| 22:05.04 | sjansen | For future reference, if I ever have to work so hard to understand you, I'll just ignore you. |
| 22:06.41 | sjansen | Are you certain that the python script is actually running? I like to test that by having it do the equivalent of 'date >> /tmp/debug.log' then checking to see if the log is updated after I connect. |
| 22:07.08 | sjansen | If they script isn't running, the next step is to figure out why. Look at /var/log/messages for starters. |
| 22:07.09 | nick125_ | Let me try to purposely put a error in the python script.. |
| 22:08.11 | nick125_ | Yeah...when I put the error in the script, the error popped up though telnet |
| 22:08.39 | nick125_ | So, the script is running.. |
| 22:09.26 | sjansen | If you're able to see output, the problem is with your script, not with xinetd. |
| 22:09.46 | nick125_ | sjansen: It seems only stderr output is being printed.. |
| 22:11.20 | sjansen | I just wrote a quick and dirty python script and ran it using xinetd without any problems. |
| 22:11.51 | nick125_ | Odd..can you post your config for xinetd? |
| 22:11.53 | sjansen | My gut reaction is that you're shuffling file descriptors in your script. |
| 22:13.13 | nick125_ | Try this in your python script: |
| 22:13.23 | nick125_ | import sys; sys.stdout.write("Hello world\n") |
| 22:13.44 | sjansen | http://paste.lisp.org/display/17829 |
| 22:14.11 | sjansen | nick125_: that's exactly what I did (althout my message was "hi there") |
| 22:14.55 | nick125_ | It seems xinetd is only sending the stderr..because sys.stderr.write() works.. |
| 22:16.46 | nick125_ | First round of business..disable getpass usage |
| 22:17.17 | sjansen | ah, that could be doing it to you |
| 22:17.43 | nick125_ | even though its not called until later.. |
| 22:18.03 | sjansen | some password input programs/libraries will actually re-open the tty to ensure secure input |
| 22:18.25 | sjansen | did you try the one-liner you suggested yourself? |
| 22:19.52 | nick125_ | I tried it earlier, but, let me try it again |
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| 22:21.32 | nick125_ | Okay..it seems that xinetd doesn't like if I don't put a \n at the end of the sys.stdout command..but, in order to do a user info prompt, I need to :/ |
| 22:21.55 | sjansen | the "\n" is probably just causing a flush |
| 22:22.00 | sjansen | you should be able to manually flush |
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| 22:25.02 | nick125_ | yay it actually works..thanks sjansen |
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| 22:48.31 | sjansen | More than five minutes ago, I did an rm -Rf */ and it still hasn't finished. |
| 22:49.02 | tensai | cd to /proc and see what files the rm has open |
| 22:49.13 | sjansen | I'm pretty sure it's doing what I think it's doing. |
| 22:49.29 | tensai | what's the concern then? |
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| 22:50.31 | RyanE | it's the fear that comes from experience. |
| 22:50.35 | sjansen | That it was taking so freaking long. It finally finished, but it took more than elevent minutes. |
| 22:50.41 | RyanE | eleventy? |
| 22:50.59 | sjansen | eleventy minutes and fifteeny seconds |
| 22:51.05 | RyanE | wow |
| 22:51.54 | jsmith | sjansen: You've been using EXT3 again, haven't you :-) |
| 22:51.58 | RyanE | I hate that sinking feeling, even when it turns out to be unfounded. Did you get the 'oh crap' flop sweat? |
| 22:51.59 | sjansen | tensai: The concern was that I'd tragically forgotten some odd detail of bash that turned rm -Rf */ into rm -Rf / or that it was following symlinks and eating my home directory or some other wierdness. |
| 22:53.04 | sjansen | No, but I did think about the last time I did a backup, as well as taking comfort in knowing all my email was safely on another system because rm can't speak imap. |
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| 22:53.55 | sjansen | Made me glad that a couple of months ago I repented and started taking backups again. |
| 23:01.36 | goozbach | Chuck Norris and Mr. T walked into a bar. The bar was instantly destroyed, as that level of awesome cannot be contained in one building. |
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| 23:10.17 | mheath | harleypig: around? :P |
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| 23:35.10 | harleypig | mheath: yep |
| 23:35.13 | harleypig | for a little while |
| 23:35.59 | mheath | harleypig: Mind if I PM you? PIck your brain about the USMC for a bit, again (sorry!) :P |
| 23:36.04 | harleypig | I'm installing gentoo on my laptop so I'll be distracted for a while. |
| 23:36.36 | harleypig | mheath: :] np, but it was more than 20 years ago and my brother says its not the same as it was then |
| 23:36.52 | harleypig | mheath: I mean, sure, you can pm me |
| 23:37.02 | mheath | is your brother in it? |
| 23:37.10 | mheath | in the corp, that is |
| 23:38.08 | harleypig | Yeah ... he's a recruiter now, in Uriah or Eureka (I can never remember) but he was force recon for 2 years |
| 23:43.44 | findlay | sjansen's always the schemer |
| 23:47.38 | TimRiker | Move tim's tapes around in the changer: http://p2.rikers.org/cgi-bin/changer.cgi :) |
| 23:47.41 | brac | [ATL-7100] |
| 23:56.31 | maquis | :) |
| 23:56.40 | maquis | sure you did :) |
| 23:56.55 | maquis | tennis is fun :) |
