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| 01:03.38 | vontrapp | what debian package provides lsdvd? |
| 01:07.18 | vontrapp | bah, it's lsdvd, but ubuntu doesn't have it |
| 01:07.20 | vontrapp | :( |
| 01:07.39 | vontrapp | i knew there was a reason i had them |
| 02:00.05 | hans | the question is, is there a reason you have ubuntu? |
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| 02:08.28 | Lone_Wanderer | I understand the Y combinator! |
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| 02:09.19 | levi | Lone_Wanderer: cool! |
| 02:12.53 | Lone_Wanderer | Now I want a t-shirt that says "(lambda symbol), call thyself" |
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| 03:45.47 | mheath | Good evening, everyone. |
| 03:51.03 | hans | bet he was getting cramped in there |
| 03:51.53 | mheath | Maquis, ARGH! |
| 03:52.00 | mheath | I got it for a friend |
| 03:52.07 | mheath | For his birthday |
| 03:52.08 | Maquis | mheath: and you only got one? |
| 03:52.16 | Maquis | hans: yes... he was |
| 03:52.20 | vontrapp | how do you break a page in tex? |
| 03:52.21 | mheath | And had a chance to only read two chapters before I gave it to him |
| 03:52.38 | mheath | Maquis, I don't have enough money for my own copy until my next paycheck,. |
| 03:52.45 | Maquis | mheath: i'm sorry |
| 03:53.08 | mheath | Chapter 2 completely changed my opinion of a certain character |
| 03:53.23 | mheath | well...I dunno. Not sure if he's any different than I thought, but I have serious doubts now |
| 03:53.27 | hans | if I see even one almost-spoiler I'm putting this channel in moderated mode |
| 03:53.28 | mheath | you'll see what I mean =P |
| 03:53.40 | Maquis | hans: thanks... |
| 03:53.51 | Maquis | wait... but hans... |
| 03:53.56 | hans | just remember when you've read a few chapters. ;) |
| 03:54.04 | Maquis | if you put it into moderated mode, don't you still get all the comments |
| 03:54.05 | Maquis | ??? |
| 03:54.15 | mheath | hans, heh, I didn't think a vague comment about some suspicions I had about something that happens 20 pages into the book was a spoiler :D |
| 03:54.29 | hans | well, not moderated mode then. need-voice mode whatever that is |
| 03:54.38 | hans | mheath: and we're not in moderated mode :) |
| 03:56.00 | vontrapp | ok, cool ajax sites, anyone? |
| 03:56.15 | Maquis | give'em a week, though... |
| 03:57.02 | vontrapp | and wants some cool examples to show |
| 03:57.59 | vontrapp | here's one http://developer.apple.com/internet/webcontent/XMLHttpRequestExample/example.html |
| 03:58.16 | vontrapp | and hasn't even read the first book |
| 03:58.23 | vontrapp | ~lart spoilers |
| 03:58.32 | mheath | man |
| 03:58.40 | mheath | back when I was like...12 and really into the books... |
| 03:58.42 | vontrapp | no, payback to society for being so cruel to me, here's the spoiler... |
| 03:58.46 | mheath | I would have been able to go through this thing in a couple of days |
| 03:58.54 | vontrapp | dumb... |
| 03:59.04 | mheath | I would have gotten it at midnight the day it came out, and have been done with it by now |
| 03:59.05 | vontrapp | bell |
| 03:59.09 | vontrapp | ok, that's enough |
| 03:59.12 | mheath | Now its going to take me like 2 weeks |
| 03:59.51 | Maquis | vontrapp: i guessed that from looking at the chapter titles |
| 04:00.21 | Maquis | the titles for chapters 29 and 30 kinda point in that direction |
| 04:03.50 | levi | My wife just finished the book, so I get to read it now. |
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| 14:46.52 | hans | levi: http://lifeoflevi.com/blog/ => internal server error |
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| 15:36.39 | Jayce^ | wonder who turned that on |
| 15:36.43 | tensai | hello? |
| 15:36.52 | tensai | Jayce^: thanks! |
| 15:39.24 | tensai | ok, so back to my question |
| 15:39.27 | tensai | does a wireless access point such as the linksys wap54g just bridge wireless onto your wired network? or does it route a separate network? |
| 15:39.35 | tensai | or can it do either? |
| 15:39.52 | Jayce^ | with some of the linux distro's for the 54g, it can do either |
| 15:40.54 | tensai | I have a spot that doesn't get very good coverage, so I'd like to drag another AP over to that end of the building. I still want them all to be on the same subnet though. |
| 15:41.07 | tensai | can I do that? |
| 15:41.37 | vontrapp | i know the wap54g is more expensive than the wrt54g, despite not being a 4-port switch as well |
| 15:42.11 | vontrapp | so maybe that's because of cool bridging features, who knows |
| 15:42.20 | tensai | I've got a wrt54g and I know that it won't do quite what I want |
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| 15:50.56 | goozbach | hotornot.com + googlemaps == cool |
| 15:51.07 | goozbach | http://apps.hotornot.com/jeff/ |
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| 16:01.36 | levi | Time to reboot to upgrade to 10.4.2 |
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| 16:11.48 | tensai | levi: so how is it? |
| 16:12.00 | levi | tensai: What, 10.4.2? |
| 16:12.06 | tensai | yeah |
| 16:12.32 | levi | Like 10.4.1, pretty much. |
| 16:15.16 | vontrapp | 10.4.2 of what? |
| 16:15.21 | hans | tensai: there are WAP bridges and there are WAP routers |
| 16:15.25 | hans | and some can do both |
| 16:15.45 | hans | Jayce^: I did +m for a few minutes last night but then I did -m |
| 16:15.54 | Jayce^ | looks like the -m didn't take |
| 16:15.57 | hans | maybe ibot reverted it, or freenode lied to me |
| 16:16.04 | levi | vontrapp: OS X, of course. |
| 16:16.51 | vontrapp | looks like the -m got lost in a netsplit |
| 16:17.27 | vontrapp | 22:15 -!- mode/#utah [-m] by hans |
| 16:17.27 | vontrapp | 22:18 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: bonez41 |
| 16:17.27 | vontrapp | 22:19 -!- Newsome [~sorenson@216-190-206-130.customer.csolutions.net] has |
| 16:17.27 | vontrapp | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.27 | vontrapp | 22:19 -!- ServerMode/#utah [+m] by irc.freenode.net |
| 16:17.54 | Jayce^ | so, had a flamewar or something going? |
| 16:18.03 | vontrapp | harry potter spoilers |
| 16:18.07 | Newsome | why's it been +m |
| 16:18.09 | Newsome | oh, okay |
| 16:18.10 | Jayce^ | heh |
| 16:18.13 | Jayce^ | weak |
| 16:18.26 | Newsome | Yeah, Harry dies on page 50, and the next 600 pages are about his funeral. |
| 16:18.36 | levi | I made the mistake of picking up the book last night. |
| 16:19.12 | levi | At a quarter to four, I decided I wasn't going to finish it and still be conscious in the morning. |
| 16:33.17 | tyce | hahaha |
| 16:48.39 | hans | News Flash: the half blood prince is the artist formerly known as prince |
| 16:50.40 | Newsome | I believe he's known as Prince again. |
| 16:50.49 | Newsome | That would make him the 2/3 blood prince |
| 16:51.40 | Newsome | heh |
| 16:54.09 | tensai | he changed his name back to Prince in 2000 when his contract expired |
| 16:55.04 | hans | so that whole thing was about skirting a contract with the RIAA? heh. |
| 16:55.12 | hans | I thought he was just weird and wanted to change his name to a symbol. |
| 16:55.40 | tensai | oh, he's weird alright |
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| 17:37.50 | bonez41 | y'all ought to go on Jay Leno and do stand up comedy.... |
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| 17:49.47 | vontrapp | ~mock acroread |
| 17:49.47 | ibot | ACTION pulls acroread's pants down and shows the world acroread's pink spotted underwear |
| 17:50.04 | vontrapp | how could it be so lame at printing? |
| 17:54.29 | goozbach | all your printing are belong to adobe |
| 18:02.07 | hans | someone set us up the dot-matrix |
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| 18:27.37 | bonez41 | vontrapp, I have had terrible luck printing .pdf files lately, ...not from adobe, from from xpdf...is it the basic adobe file format at issue? some problem from Adobe? |
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| 18:43.11 | jebar | exit |
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| 19:14.40 | vontrapp | bonez41: no, i save the file from adobe then open it with xpdf (so i don't have to bother reconfiguring firefox to open it with xpdf) and it prints fine |
| 19:15.53 | graphyx | hans: I believe the mis-quote should go as someone set up us the dot-matrix.. |
| 19:27.34 | hans | how does one fork from shell? |
| 19:28.03 | vontrapp | to what? |
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| 19:43.37 | hans | to a new process |
| 19:46.31 | hans | grouping two commands into a subprocess with & and some magical grouping operator would be ok too. |
| 19:47.11 | hans | (I want to 'echo $$; sleep 10' in the background) |
| 19:50.08 | harleypig | ( echo $$ ; sleep 10 ) & ? |
| 19:50.29 | harleypig | I realize I just came in ... is that what you're looking for? |
| 19:50.40 | hans | probably. alas the need has passed |
| 19:50.53 | vontrapp | ~lart hans |
| 19:50.54 | hans | was trying to write a quick but controlled fork bomb to see if we were hitting a limit of processes |
| 19:51.10 | harleypig | heh |
| 19:51.19 | hans | it was the icobol licenses that were running out, though. (program was giving an EAGAIN-like error message) |
| 20:00.11 | vontrapp | ~emulate gir |
| 20:00.11 | ibot | dooom doooom doom |
| 20:04.23 | graphyx | who is gir? |
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| 20:04.50 | vontrapp | ~emulate gir |
| 20:04.50 | ibot | my walnuts! |
| 20:04.56 | vontrapp | a wacky robot |
| 20:05.22 | bonez41 | I have a Compaq Deskpro EN...how do I find out, other than slipping the cover off...what memory it takes...? I'd like to upgrade, but am wondering if linux can reveal what memory it is running now |
| 20:06.10 | graphyx | another source could be to check Compaq's website. |
| 20:06.33 | mrpull | bonez41: crucial.com has a reliable memory selector |
| 20:13.27 | mrpull | doesn't slugg have a jobs-only list in addition to their regular list? |
| 20:13.35 | mrpull | sllug :) |
| 20:13.40 | Jayce^ | yes |
| 20:15.20 | JoshH | sllug-jobs-announce@sllug.org |
| 20:15.30 | mrpull | perfect. thanks JoshH. |
| 20:15.59 | JoshH | np |
| 20:15.59 | mrpull | but plug does not... right? |
| 20:16.27 | Jayce^ | correct |
| 20:16.31 | Jayce^ | main list for plug |
| 20:17.19 | mrpull | and cross posting? kosher or not? |
| 20:17.44 | Jayce^ | for a job, totally kosher |
| 20:18.02 | Jayce^ | encouraged :) |
| 20:18.40 | harleypig | AH CRAP!!! Anyone familiar with IPC::Open2|3 and can help me debug? |
| 20:19.23 | JoshH | just dont say something like "i need a php programmer and i cant afford to pay a profossional wage", or sjansen will derail it and it will turn into a 30 post flamewar. :P |
| 20:19.42 | harleypig | I need a perl debugger and I can't pay anything. |
| 20:19.51 | mrpull | heh.... i need a highend sysadmin for a newbies wage.... that is ok right? |
| 20:20.06 | JoshH | you might get by unscathed |
| 20:20.30 | Jayce^ | JoshH, don't encourage it.... we know you're taunting him in just to start another |
| 20:20.43 | JoshH | Jayce^: im hurt that you would think that. :P |
| 20:20.47 | Jayce^ | harleypig, you ever look at Devel::ebug ? very cool |
| 20:23.01 | harleypig | I've been trying to get it installed by running into problems. |
| 20:23.21 | harleypig | err ... but running into problems. |
| 20:23.41 | harleypig | How well does it handle an internal debugging call? |
| 20:23.46 | harleypig | Ummm ... did that sound right? |
| 20:24.06 | Jayce^ | dunno, no idea what you were trying to ask :) |
| 20:24.28 | harleypig | Calling IPC::Open3::open3( $IN, $OUT, $ERR, 'perl', '-d', 'otherscript.pl' ) |
| 20:24.33 | graphyx | how can I get a listing of everyone who is a part of PLUG? |
| 20:24.57 | goozbach | I don't know that's the right way to ask |
| 20:24.58 | Jayce^ | graphyx, be the list admin, or president :) |
| 20:25.06 | Jayce^ | harleypig, never tried it |
| 20:25.15 | tensai | graphyx: try emailing and asking for everyone's home phone number. that's worked very well in the past. |
| 20:25.26 | graphyx | Jayce^: just wondering If I was missing a resource that everyone else had.. |
| 20:25.36 | Jayce^ | nah.. |
| 20:25.44 | Jayce^ | if we had our full site up..... :-p |
| 20:26.05 | graphyx | come on.. we should be running phpnuke like everyone else.. |
| 20:26.28 | harleypig | ibot, lart graphyx |
| 20:28.51 | Jayce^ | ~beat graphyx |
| 20:28.51 | ibot | ACTION beats graphyx with a large stick. |
| 20:29.49 | graphyx | ~pickle harleypig |
| 20:30.00 | graphyx | looks like we need a new function added to ibot. |
| 20:31.09 | Jayce^ | easy to add, just ask her for help |
| 20:34.57 | harleypig | Didn't somebody already pickle me the other day ... or was that another channel. |
| 20:38.46 | harleypig | Why do I have to have Catalyst installed to install Devel::ebug? |
| 20:39.00 | Jayce^ | if you are using the ajax web interface :) |
| 20:39.07 | Jayce^ | interactive web app debugging :) |
| 20:39.57 | harleypig | Oh ... is there a way I can bypass that? |
| 20:40.03 | Jayce^ | not sure |
| 20:41.06 | harleypig | #perl says to force install ... *sigh* |
| 20:41.24 | harleypig | Oh crap! TT2 gets installed too. |
| 20:41.38 | Jayce^ | yeah :) |
| 20:46.07 | tyce | http://www.85qm.de/up/BigRedButton.swf |
| 20:47.03 | goozbach | 403 |
| 20:49.04 | goozbach | tyce: you have a parent page? |
| 20:50.17 | tyce | http://digg.com/links/DO_NOT_PRESS_ |
| 20:51.52 | harleypig | tyce: Nope. |
| 20:52.00 | harleypig | Goes to the same page, which 404's. |
| 20:52.08 | goozbach | still a 403 |
| 20:52.14 | goozbach | it's not a 404 |
| 20:52.32 | goozbach | tyce: if you got it in your cache, let's mirror it |
| 20:53.21 | goozbach | I wonder if it's referer protected |
| 20:53.30 | goozbach | or just flat forbidden |
| 20:54.28 | harleypig | Yeah ... 3 ... 4 ... same thing. |
| 20:58.18 | tyce | looking |
| 21:11.24 | Maquis | ~lart goozbach |
| 21:11.44 | harleypig | ~lart everybody |
| 21:11.52 | harleypig | haha |
| 21:38.05 | levi | cgi scripts in bash? Ew. |
| 21:38.51 | mrpull | heh... make sure those run as root too |
| 21:40.00 | hans | for simple cgi scripts, and a sysadmin who already knows bash, what could be simpler? |
| 21:40.23 | mrpull | ph....nah, i wont do it :) |
| 21:45.09 | goozbach | I wrote a cgi script in bash for my class today |
| 21:45.33 | goozbach | it was cool |
| 21:46.35 | goozbach | what's the option to tell firefox which sound daemon to use? |
| 21:52.47 | vontrapp | goozbach: don't know that there is an option |
| 21:53.15 | vontrapp | but `aoss firefox` will run it in a fake oss env that's really alsa |
| 21:55.19 | goozbach | any idea what package aoss belongs to? |
| 21:56.14 | hans | alsa-oss on debian |
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| 21:57.15 | goozbach | hmm |
| 21:58.03 | hans | ok, all you naysayers: http://hans.fugal.net/blog/linux/bashlib.html |
| 21:59.19 | mrpull | dang hans.... what if someone gets creative with $p? |
| 22:00.07 | JoshH | firefox uses sound? |
| 22:00.20 | hans | mrpull: you don't see me sticking it out on the web |
| 22:00.31 | mrpull | :) |
| 22:00.32 | hans | that's not a unique problem to shell, come on. |
| 22:00.47 | mrpull | ok. i'm not a CGI or bash guy, that just looked scary :) |
| 22:01.12 | hans | :) |
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| 22:12.39 | hans | anyone know off the top of the head how to add a second IP to a NIC on suse, the suse way? (e.g. something in /etc/sysconfig/...) |
| 22:15.25 | bucky | add a /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0:0 file |
| 22:17.20 | shadoi | what he said |
| 22:17.24 | bucky | hans, then /etc/init.d/network restart |
| 22:17.26 | shadoi | same as redhat |
| 22:17.41 | bucky | or however suse restarts something |
| 22:19.06 | bucky | service networking restart ? |
| 22:19.24 | bucky | /etc/rc.d/init.d/networking restart |
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| 22:23.38 | hans | thx |
| 22:42.00 | goozbach | hans: what version of SUSE |
| 22:42.36 | hans | goozbach: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Feb/1332.html |
| 22:42.40 | hans | thanks anyway |
| 22:42.43 | goozbach | ok |
| 22:48.33 | bucky | ifconfig and the old style named aliases (e.g. eth0:1) are deprecated now. |
| 22:49.20 | goozbach | yes |
| 22:49.42 | hans | long live iproute2 |
| 22:49.54 | bucky | http://www.bb-zone.com/SLGFG/chapter10.html |
| 22:50.08 | bucky | when did suse go to that? |
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| 22:54.13 | bucky | ~seen data||w0lf |
| 22:54.13 | ibot | i haven't seen 'data||w0lf', bucky |
| 22:54.26 | vontrapp | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 22:54.27 | ibot | dataw0lf is currently on #uphpu (1d 6h 2m 25s) #phlyte (1d 6h 2m 25s). Has said a total of 104 messages. Is idling for 1h 4m 53s |
| 22:54.27 | bucky | where's my old buddy data||w0lf |
| 22:54.39 | bucky | lol.. tnx vontrapp |
| 22:54.44 | vontrapp | np |
| 22:58.05 | bucky | gotta go.. it's "A Little Bit of Pyongyang in the Blanding Stake" tonight |
| 23:15.50 | hans | so he sings the anti tune but goes to the Pyongyang activies, whatever they are. |