| 00:04.56 | macnewbold | quiet day today... :) everyone gone home already? |
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| 00:05.59 | goozbach | I'm just not talkative |
| 00:06.07 | macnewbold | hmm... that's odd |
| 00:06.11 | macnewbold | ;) |
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| 00:12.27 | Goshen | Mac: home yes :) |
| 00:14.53 | jsmith-away | I wish I were home. |
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| 00:15.57 | Tene | I'm at home. |
| 00:16.06 | Tene | I've got a nice comfy chair and a warm blanket. |
| 00:16.24 | jsmith | Gee... how would that be? I still haven't even had lunch yet... |
| 00:16.57 | goozbach | you mean dinner, right? |
| 00:19.58 | Maquis | food? |
| 00:23.50 | goozbach | hmmm dinner... |
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| 00:35.28 | jsmith | goozbach: No, lunch. As in the meal I should have eaten five hours ago. |
| 00:37.01 | macnewbold | jsmith: I know the feeling... I've done that way too much lately |
| 00:49.15 | goozbach | gotta love arch |
| 00:49.21 | goozbach | ~praise arch |
| 00:49.23 | ibot | All hail arch! |
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| 01:20.49 | tensai | have you guys seen this: http://2005.sxsw.com/geekout/sxsw4pod/ |
| 01:21.00 | tensai | 2.6GB of free and legal music |
| 01:22.07 | tensai | took me all day to download but so far it's pretty good. may take a week to go through them all. |
| 01:22.17 | jsmith | What type of music? |
| 01:22.40 | tensai | all sorts. it's a musician's fesitival and all the bands submitted an mp3 or two |
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| 01:24.54 | xbmodder_lappy | i own you. |
| 01:24.57 | xbmodder_lappy | j.k |
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| 01:40.01 | goozbach | this is gonna be the best pasta-powered evil android baby chicken ever!!! |
| 01:42.34 | jsmith | Mmmmmn.... chicken..... |
| 01:44.12 | goozbach | I'm gonna buy a shirt with the pasta-powered evil android baby chicken on it. |
| 01:44.20 | goozbach | it's fliping the bird. |
| 01:44.29 | goozbach | now _that's_ funny |
| 01:44.57 | Maquis | goo: you're crazy..... |
| 01:46.25 | Tene | ~seen fozz |
| 01:46.28 | ibot | fozz is currently on #utah |
| 01:46.36 | Tene | ~prod fozz |
| 01:46.38 | ibot | ACTION zaps fozz with a high voltage cattle prod |
| 01:46.51 | Maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.12 | goozbach | perl perl perl! |
| 01:52.23 | goozbach | Tene: use that chant to make him show up. |
| 01:52.29 | Tene | hehe |
| 01:52.50 | Tene | so, now I'm supposed to choose where to have my interview tomorrow |
| 01:53.03 | Maquis | interview for? |
| 01:53.16 | Maquis | where are the options? |
| 01:53.24 | Tene | for a job |
| 01:53.29 | Tene | I was just told to choose somewhere |
| 01:53.37 | Maquis | a place to meet... |
| 01:53.41 | Maquis | hmmm |
| 01:53.50 | Maquis | dunno |
| 01:53.50 | Tene | "Why don't you suggest a convenient meeting place near the Tax Commission, |
| 01:53.51 | Tene | your home, or downtown." |
| 01:54.01 | Maquis | what company? |
| 01:54.07 | Tene | Tax Commission was mentioned because that's where I'm currently working |
| 01:54.15 | Tene | http://iodynamics.com/ |
| 01:54.18 | Tene | with fozz |
| 01:54.19 | Maquis | ah... |
| 01:54.28 | Tene | which is why I was pording him. |
| 01:54.28 | Maquis | that's why you're looking for fozz... |
| 01:54.32 | Tene | yeah |
| 01:54.32 | Maquis | that's cool |
| 01:55.50 | Tene | any ideas/suggestions? |
| 02:02.20 | jsmith | Tene: Lobby of the Little America hotel... |
| 02:02.57 | Tene | other people have suggested a food-type place. opinions on that? |
| 02:03.01 | jsmith | Tene: I like interviewing people there, as it's more relaxed and easygoing |
| 02:03.22 | jsmith | Tene: Naw, food is bad. Hard to eat and sell yourself at the same time |
| 02:03.32 | Tene | That's what I thought. |
| 02:03.53 | Tene | so, this little america hotel... where is it? |
| 02:03.56 | Tene | or... /me asks google. |
| 02:04.08 | jsmith | 6th south and main ... thereabouts. |
| 02:05.03 | Tene | that means I'll have to finally figure out parking downtown. |
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| 02:11.18 | Tene | thanks, jsmith |
| 02:11.41 | Tene | sjansen: so, I hear that your hair is like velcro to barbed wire |
| 02:12.13 | goozbach | hmmm pizza |
| 02:29.03 | tensai | turns out drupal 4.5 doesn't support multiple blogs with shared users. :( |
| 02:29.07 | tensai | have to wait for 4.6 I guess |
| 02:35.46 | Maquis | ~lart people who've graduated and don't have to worry about stupid classes like civ |
| 02:36.41 | Tene | what abou people who dropped out for medical reasons and can't currently take any classes at all? |
| 02:37.39 | Maquis | Tene: not sure yet.... depends on if you end up goign back and enduring the torture too... |
| 02:37.51 | Maquis | tensai: would you like me to beat you now or later? |
| 02:37.57 | Tene | I plan on it. |
| 02:38.07 | Tene | so do I get larted or not? |
| 02:38.17 | Maquis | Tene: not until you change your mind |
| 02:38.21 | tensai | Maquis: whatever. I've got plenty of time what with no classes to study for. |
| 02:38.29 | Maquis | ~flog tensai |
| 02:38.31 | ibot | ACTION hog-ties tensai and starts the heavy punishment with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 02:38.47 | Maquis | ok... this is kinda nasty... sir isaac newton wanted to learn how the eye worked... |
| 02:38.53 | Maquis | and so he probed his own eye with pins |
| 02:39.02 | Tene | o.O |
| 02:39.56 | tensai | I assume he learned that the eye works by not poking it with pointy things |
| 02:40.10 | LeviHome | Yup. A lot of famous scientists were a bit off by today's standards. |
| 02:40.26 | Maquis | it makes my eyes hurt to think of that... |
| 02:40.35 | Tene | ~newton Maquis |
| 02:40.37 | LeviHome | Did I ever tell you about my eye surgery? |
| 02:40.49 | Maquis | someone that we studied also looked at the sun directly for a long time to see what he could learn about it... |
| 02:40.53 | Maquis | LeviHome: no.... |
| 02:41.08 | tensai | Maquis: galileo I think |
| 02:41.10 | LeviHome | I had cornea transplants. |
| 02:41.29 | Maquis | LeviHome: was it painful???? |
| 02:41.45 | LeviHome | So I had plenty of experience with pointy things in contact with my eyes. :) |
| 02:42.03 | LeviHome | Well, yeah. Surgery usually is. It wasn't horrible, though. |
| 02:42.23 | LeviHome | The actual procedure wasn't painful, just the recovery. |
| 02:42.34 | LeviHome | And they gave me good drugs. |
| 02:43.30 | LeviHome | I woke up partway through the surgery. Apparently I was out longer than they expected. I was so out of it that I just wanted to go back to sleep, though. |
| 02:43.47 | Maquis | you woke up during it???? |
| 02:43.48 | Maquis | ick |
| 02:44.07 | LeviHome | And I didn't feel a thing until I got home. I mostly slept for the next day or two, and then it felt like I had something in my eye for weeks. |
| 02:44.38 | Maquis | (at least in my experience) |
| 02:45.02 | LeviHome | The second time I actually spent the night in the hospital, which sucked. |
| 02:45.31 | LeviHome | They gave me a bit too much of the sphincter-tightening stuff... luckily I didn't need a catheter, though. |
| 02:45.39 | Maquis | 2 questions: why 2 times? and why was it worse in the hospital? |
| 02:46.01 | LeviHome | One eye each time. |
| 02:46.02 | Maquis | ~dict sphincter |
| 02:46.30 | Maquis | LeviHome: couldn't they have just done both at once... |
| 02:47.02 | LeviHome | Sure, if I wanted to be totally blind for a few days. |
| 02:47.10 | LeviHome | And have both my eyes hurt instead of just one. |
| 02:47.16 | Maquis | i dunno... |
| 02:47.17 | xbmodder_lappy | if i say 'my girl my girl' would'nt that infer something else... you can say my man my man. without that. |
| 02:47.25 | LeviHome | And wait for two corneas to become available instead of one. |
| 02:47.43 | Maquis | trying to determine whether it would be worse to have pain in both eyes at once, or to have pain in one eye, and then pain in the other... |
| 02:47.44 | xbmodder_lappy | is there something that would make my screen hard to read. |
| 02:48.03 | LeviHome | Maquis: They were more than a year apart. |
| 02:48.04 | Maquis | xbmodder_lappy: having the monitor unplugged would make it hard to read |
| 02:48.07 | Maquis | LeviHome: oh... |
| 02:48.11 | Maquis | still.... |
| 02:48.32 | Tene | xbm: magnet on the crt |
| 02:48.32 | LeviHome | Maquis: I could have gone longer on the second one, but my mission was coming up and I'd be without my parents' insurance afterwards. |
| 02:49.10 | Maquis | ah... |
| 02:49.17 | LeviHome | When I decided to do the second one, I was literally in the hospital the next day. That kind of freaked me out, since I had a few months to prepare myself the first time while waiting for a donor. |
| 02:49.50 | LeviHome | Anyway, the surgery itself wasn't even the squirmy part. |
| 02:49.53 | Tene | what was the reason, levi? |
| 02:50.02 | xbmodder_lappy | I remember there was a proggy that would blur the screen a bit. and kill every other line at random for windows. |
| 02:50.12 | LeviHome | That was the removal of the stitches, for which all I had was eye numbing drops. |
| 02:50.24 | xbmodder_lappy | making the screen impossibly hazy if you were not looking directly at it. |
| 02:50.33 | LeviHome | Tene: A degenerative disease in my corneas. |
| 02:50.41 | Tene | notfun |
| 02:50.50 | Maquis | LeviHome: ipes!!!! /me doesn't like the sound of that... |
| 02:51.00 | Tene | xbm: you can't really do that with normal X |
| 02:51.10 | LeviHome | Usually people don't have to have surgery for it until they're past middle age. I had a particularly bad case. |
| 02:51.20 | Tene | look into one of the xorg-extension-using window-manager things |
| 02:51.24 | xbmodder_lappy | Tene, do i have to hack X? |
| 02:51.26 | Tene | like... what's it called... expocity? |
| 02:51.46 | LeviHome | Maquis: I had to sit very still, stare into a bright light with my eye propped open by the doctor's hand, and watch a little scalpel come up and slice through the stitches. |
| 02:51.53 | Tene | luminocity |
| 02:51.59 | Tene | http://fishsoup.net/blog/ |
| 02:52.15 | Tene | give that a good hacking |
| 02:52.46 | xbmodder_lappy | Tene, thanks |
| 02:52.57 | Maquis | LeviHome: ummm... i don't think i would be able to handle that... |
| 02:53.16 | Tene | Maquis: what if it's either that or go blind? |
| 02:53.51 | Maquis | not sure... |
| 02:54.02 | Maquis | i'd definitely have to think for a while on that one... |
| 02:54.19 | LeviHome | Yeah, if I didn't do anything, my left eye at least would have ruptured eventually, and I'd have to go through it anyway. |
| 02:54.30 | Maquis | ruptured???? |
| 02:55.03 | LeviHome | The cornea became more and more deformed, cone-shaped, and thin in areas. It was developing scar tissue in some areas, too. |
| 02:55.16 | LeviHome | All of which, I'm sure you can imagine, made it rather hard to see clearly out of it. |
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| 02:55.34 | LeviHome | Without any correction, I couldn't see the big E on the chart with my left eye. |
| 02:56.02 | LeviHome | Only rigid contact lenses would correct it, and my cornea was so cone-shaped they wouldn't fit anymore. |
| 02:57.28 | LeviHome | Going blind was really the only other option, and avoiding that is worth a LOT of pain. |
| 02:57.56 | LeviHome | Trust me. If you'd been through the crappy vision I had, and then got it back, and then faced losing it again... |
| 02:58.12 | Maquis | i suppose in the actual situation, i would probably see it a bit differently... |
| 02:58.23 | Maquis | but... just hearing about it makes me squirm... |
| 02:58.30 | Tene | of course you would, your cornea would be deformed. |
| 02:58.37 | Tene | that makes you see everything differently |
| 02:59.27 | LeviHome | Maquis: When the choice is feeling like you have grit permenantly embedded in your eye or going in to have a stitch removed, it's a pretty easy decision. |
| 02:59.43 | Tene | ~lart Maquis for it's a pre-emptive strike |
| 03:00.40 | Maquis | LeviHome: yeah... i suppose if it's already painful, you might as well take a bit more pain to get the pain to go away... |
| 03:00.41 | LeviHome | Hmm. According to American Express, I've made a milestone towards financial success by being pre-approved for an AmEx Green card. |
| 03:00.52 | LeviHome | Maquis: Getting the stitches out is not painful at all. |
| 03:00.53 | Maquis | but... i'd really like to be out cold during it... |
| 03:01.02 | LeviHome | Maquis: It's just very disconcerting at first. |
| 03:01.08 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 03:01.13 | LeviHome | I nearly passed out several times. |
| 03:01.14 | Maquis | it's squirmy |
| 03:01.28 | LeviHome | But, after a few times, I got over it. |
| 03:01.46 | Maquis | see, they'd probably have to give me some pretty good drugs to just get me to not wince every time they got close... |
| 03:01.52 | Maquis | after a few timeS? |
| 03:02.01 | Maquis | how many times have you had stitches taken out of your eyes??? |
| 03:02.12 | LeviHome | Oh yeah, I had to go in a LOT. The stitches didn't all come out at once. |
| 03:05.11 | vontrapp | ok, it's time to get an rss aggregator |
| 03:05.20 | vontrapp | any suggestions? |
| 03:05.42 | tensai | vontrapp: akregator |
| 03:05.44 | jsmith | vontrapp: planetplanet |
| 03:05.45 | Tene | there are ones that integrate with the big DEs. |
| 03:05.56 | vontrapp | i want a standalone |
| 03:06.07 | tensai | define "standalone" |
| 03:06.16 | vontrapp | runs on it's own |
| 03:06.43 | vontrapp | or maybe a firefox extension |
| 03:07.01 | Tene | firefox has integrated rss support, doesn't it? |
| 03:07.08 | tensai | akregator is a kde app. docks into the systray real nice. doesn't support enclosures yet. |
| 03:07.17 | tensai | Tene: yeah, from 1.0 |
| 03:08.51 | vontrapp | where does one access and configure firefox's rss? |
| 03:09.40 | LeviHome | There's a little button in the bottom right. |
| 03:09.57 | LeviHome | It makes a bookmark, which expands to the current feed items in the bookmark menu. |
| 03:10.31 | vontrapp | i don't see any button on the bottom right |
| 03:11.05 | Tene | go to a site with an rss feed |
| 03:11.12 | Tene | http://slashdot.org/ |
| 03:11.34 | tensai | but not that one! |
| 03:11.49 | Maquis | + |
| 03:12.00 | Tene | do it, vontrapp! |
| 03:12.02 | Tene | give in! |
| 03:12.37 | Maquis | tensai: what's wrong with 127.0.0.1 :) |
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| 03:13.03 | vontrapp | hmmmmmm, i want rss to _save_ time |
| 03:13.24 | Tene | http://osnews.com/ |
| 03:13.30 | Tene | http://engadget.com/ |
| 03:14.22 | tensai | Maquis: that gives me an idea. I should poison slashdot on my name server. |
| 03:14.32 | Maquis | :) |
| 03:14.33 | vontrapp | what about a dynamic web page that will aggregate rss? |
| 03:14.37 | tensai | hapless visitors would have /. disappear |
| 03:14.40 | Maquis | i should knock out freenode... |
| 03:16.05 | Tene | hey Maquis, http://tinyurl.com/87d |
| 03:16.43 | vontrapp | the firefox rss is ok... i'd like to see more than just the title at-a-glance, though |
| 03:17.00 | vontrapp | and i don't want to drag through menus |
| 03:18.06 | Tene | vontrapp: you can have them on the bookmark-bar thing |
| 03:18.15 | Maquis | tensai: bad |
| 03:18.23 | Tene | put them in Bookmarks Toolbar Folder |
| 03:18.30 | vontrapp | i still have to click on each one to see the articles... |
| 03:18.48 | Tene | true... |
| 03:20.50 | Maquis | oops... that bad was for Tene |
| 03:20.53 | Maquis | Tene: i had gone weeks without it... |
| 03:21.01 | Tene | hehe |
| 03:21.02 | vontrapp | ~lart Maquis |
| 03:21.05 | Maquis | and you.... you.... but... |
| 03:21.08 | Tene | you didn't see it coming? |
| 03:21.16 | Tene | I thought it would be obvious... |
| 03:21.21 | Tene | else I wouldn't have really done it |
| 03:22.20 | Tene | try this one instead, then: http://tinyurl.com/6dpcp |
| 03:22.55 | Tene | I'm just trying to help... |
| 03:29.36 | vontrapp | ooh, raggle is cool |
| 03:49.23 | Maquis | goozbach: scorched3d again? |
| 03:49.35 | goozbach | yup |
| 03:49.58 | goozbach | two time defending champ |
| 03:50.08 | Maquis | haha... |
| 03:50.15 | vontrapp | now, anybody now of any rss feeds for local events? (plays/concerts) |
| 03:51.34 | goozbach | ~mock sjansen and peregrine |
| 03:51.36 | ibot | ACTION pulls sjansen and peregrine's pants down and shows the world sjansen and peregrine's pink spotted underwear |
| 03:52.07 | Maquis | :) |
| 03:52.40 | Maquis | ~lart virtual memory |
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| 04:01.32 | findlay | I would like to take this moment to thank all the people who helped me achieve this venerable achievement, because without them it never would have happened |
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| 04:02.29 | Maquis | findlay: you're very welcome |
| 04:02.37 | Maquis | (if nobody else will take the credit, i'd be glad to) |
| 04:02.41 | findlay | thank you especially Maquis |
| 04:02.45 | findlay | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=141772&cid=11878710 |
| 04:02.51 | Maquis | wait... |
| 04:03.02 | Maquis | i was trying not to... but... ummm.... uh..... |
| 04:03.03 | Maquis | ok... |
| 04:03.45 | vontrapp | is there a key to send SIGHUP to a terminal? |
| 04:03.56 | findlay | it's an, I think quite clever, variation on the well known ``first post'' device |
| 04:03.58 | Maquis | findlay: are you farquharsoncraig? |
| 04:04.07 | findlay | blah blah... (-: |
| 04:04.11 | findlay | Maquis: yes |
| 04:04.29 | Maquis | ah... |
| 04:04.32 | Maquis | congrats? |
| 04:04.50 | findlay | first Score: +5 |
| 04:05.12 | findlay | vontrapp: isn't there some ASCII character that maps to it? |
| 04:05.54 | vontrapp | don't know |
| 04:06.14 | vontrapp | like ctr-c is what i'm thinking |
| 04:06.15 | Maquis | findlay: you were flagged 20% offtopic and 10% insightful... |
| 04:06.21 | Maquis | how'd the "insightful" get in there? |
| 04:07.09 | findlay | don't know, <enjoyable sarcasm>but one thing I've learned in life is never to question the judgement of /. moderators</> |
| 04:08.09 | findlay | vontrapp: I don't know about the terminal itself, but for processes running in the shell you can do a ctrl-z to stop it |
| 04:08.27 | vontrapp | yeah, but that's not a sighup |
| 04:08.42 | Maquis | what about kill -SIGHUP (or however you do it) |
| 04:08.43 | findlay | or if you do a ctrl-v-<another character> it will give you a control character |
| 04:09.08 | vontrapp | Maquis: that works, but i want to send it directly to the program from within the program |
| 04:09.17 | Maquis | ah... |
| 04:09.20 | Maquis | wait... |
| 04:09.26 | Maquis | can't you do that with kill() |
| 04:09.31 | vontrapp | like, why would you kill -SIGKILL progid when you can just press ctr-c in the program |
| 04:09.38 | vontrapp | er, SIGINT |
| 04:09.56 | Maquis | int kill(pid_t pid, int sig); |
| 04:09.59 | findlay | isn't that ctrl-s? |
| 04:10.02 | Maquis | (from man 2 kill) |
| 04:10.25 | tensai | ctrl-s is a soft scroll lock |
| 04:10.39 | tensai | which I've actually found use for now that I know what it does |
| 04:10.45 | findlay | I thought it meant some kind of pause |
| 04:10.53 | vontrapp | Maquis: i'm not talking programatically, either |
| 04:10.56 | vontrapp | i want a shortcut |
| 04:10.57 | findlay | but you have to know about ctrl-q also |
| 04:10.58 | Maquis | vontrapp: oh... |
| 04:11.08 | tensai | that's what I meant. scroll lock implemented by your terminal |
| 04:11.20 | Maquis | well, you could find a way to bind something to it.. |
| 04:11.43 | vontrapp | that's all ctr-c is, anyway, a mapping |
| 04:11.55 | vontrapp | most terminals happen to use ctr-c for that signal |
| 04:12.04 | vontrapp | but telnet usually uses ctr-[ or something |
| 04:12.15 | vontrapp | anyway, any common mapping fro SIGHUP? |
| 04:12.39 | vontrapp | haha |
| 04:16.21 | tensai | ~lart paper check registers for not being correctable |
| 04:18.19 | vontrapp | ooh, mt st helens sending a plume of steam and ash |
| 04:18.25 | Maquis | really? |
| 04:18.26 | Maquis | cool... |
| 04:19.51 | vontrapp | it's unfortunate when one finds such a good program right off... it limits the number of programs one tries out |
| 04:20.09 | findlay | I imagine you can set keybindings in your ~/.bashrc |
| 04:20.50 | Maquis | is there any way to do something like that? |
| 04:22.04 | findlay | why do you want xeyes of all things? (: |
| 04:22.12 | Maquis | well, that's an example |
| 04:22.38 | findlay | I know from using fluxbox, for example, setting keybindings for *anything* is not only possible, but easy |
| 04:22.58 | findlay | other WM's may differ in how they go about it |
| 04:23.59 | findlay | http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=141055&cid=11818906 |
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| 04:52.51 | SpecialK | ping |
| 04:55.00 | findlay | ~lart manti telephone |
| 04:55.15 | Maquis | findlay: you're just going to get yelled at by ibot... |
| 04:55.16 | vontrapp | findlay: did you figure out kphone? |
| 05:10.09 | findlay | speaking from experience Maquis? (: |
| 05:10.22 | findlay | vontrapp: no |
| 05:12.36 | tensai | findlay: so what's the story with manti telephone? |
| 05:13.59 | findlay | they like to throttle my bandwidth all the way down to 3K for no appearent reason, and I get kicked from bzflag at the most crucial moment |
| 05:15.27 | findlay | (: |
| 05:19.29 | findlay | nothing too exciting |
| 05:23.17 | Maquis | findlay: yes... i was speaking from experience... |
| 05:23.33 | Maquis | that's why it was so hard to get brigham and ibot looped... |
| 05:28.20 | xbmodder_lappy | ? |
| 05:29.45 | xbmodder_lappy | findlay, your so freaking funny! come to california. become a stand up comedian. do something useful. |
| 05:36.47 | xbmodder_lappy | anyone here got gshop working? |
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| 06:02.47 | findlay | xbmodder_lappy: I think you are predisposed to think I'm funny |
| 06:03.25 | findlay | it's like you have a +5 Funny filter on everything I say |
| 06:03.27 | findlay | (; |
| 06:03.33 | findlay | ~lart Maquis |
| 06:07.11 | Maquis | ~lart findlay |
| 06:07.20 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 06:07.25 | Maquis | sure know what that feels like |
| 06:09.50 | tensai | ~finish Maquis' homework |
| 06:10.03 | Maquis | tensai: thanks... |
| 06:10.08 | tensai | Maquis: sorry. you'll have to do it yourself |
| 06:11.02 | Maquis | *sniff* |
| 06:11.04 | tensai | so I really recommend that music I posted a link to. most of the songs are great. |
| 06:11.11 | Maquis | ~take maquis' test |
| 06:11.25 | Maquis | that doesn't seem to work either.. |
| 06:11.31 | tensai | ~revolt |
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| 06:11.53 | tensai | ~mutilate Maquis' test |
| 06:11.56 | ibot | ACTION pulls out a carving knife and turns Maquis' test into confetti |
| 06:11.59 | Maquis | |roulette |
| 06:11.59 | brigham | Maquis: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 06:12.02 | Maquis | |roulette |
| 06:12.02 | brigham | Maquis: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 06:12.05 | Maquis | |roulette |
| 06:12.05 | brigham | Maquis: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 06:12.08 | Maquis | bah... |
| 06:12.13 | Maquis | brigham's not being very helpful |
| 06:12.16 | Maquis | |roulette |
| 06:12.17 | brigham | Maquis: chamber 4 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 06:12.20 | Maquis | that was better |
| 06:24.34 | Maquis | ~shoot me |
| 06:24.36 | ibot | ACTION shoots maquis in the eye with a cork gun! |
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| 15:12.36 | synic | anyone good with patch/diff? I'm having trouble applying a patch someone sent me |
| 15:12.43 | synic | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/1Li51063.html <-- I get this error. |
| 15:14.03 | tensai | can you paste lines 380-400 of the patch? |
| 15:14.26 | synic | yup |
| 15:14.29 | synic | one sec |
| 15:14.54 | synic | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/nR2r0O66.html |
| 15:15.35 | synic | line 388 is line 20 in that paste |
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| 15:17.54 | tensai | I wonder if it doesn't like the backslashes. seems unlikely though. |
| 15:18.07 | tensai | that's the only difference I can see between that diff and one I made on my machine |
| 15:18.11 | synic | yeah, I thought about that too, but there are backslashes earlier in the patch that it's ok with |
| 15:18.23 | tensai | just what I was going to ask... |
| 15:18.37 | synic | I'll just email the guy and have him resend it |
| 15:18.43 | synic | er... remake it, or something |
| 15:19.12 | tensai | sorry. I'm not really a patch expert. |
| 15:19.21 | synic | np, thanks anyway |
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| 15:23.54 | brailsmt | anyone know the name of the module in the 2.4.20 kernel that provides sysfs? |
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| 15:31.50 | tensai | brailsmt: I believe sysfs is only available in 2.6 |
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| 16:12.47 | drewbono | Hey everyone... |
| 16:12.56 | drewbono | Anyone good with escaping mysql? |
| 16:13.13 | drewbono | I've got a string in a field I'm trying to update, but I can't figure out how. |
| 16:13.27 | drewbono | Keeps telling me: "ERROR: |
| 16:13.28 | drewbono | Unknown command '\"'." |
| 16:14.01 | tensai | post your query please |
| 16:14.04 | drewbono | update faq set answer = 'iMovie is the easiest video-editing software in the world and ships free with every Macintosh. It's one of the applications in <a href\=\"http://www.apple.com/ilife\">Apple's iLife '05 suite</a>. Also included in iLife is software to manage your photos (iPhoto), software to let you listen to and buy music (iTunes), software to let you create hot-looking DVD's (iDVD), and software to let you create your own music ( |
| 16:14.20 | Jayce^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.22 | Jayce^ | that's your problem |
| 16:14.34 | tensai | Apple's |
| 16:14.35 | Jayce^ | and DVD's |
| 16:14.44 | drewbono | ah... |
| 16:14.50 | Jayce^ | unescaped single quotes, when you single quoted your text |
| 16:14.58 | drewbono | so single and double quotes are all that have to be escaped? |
| 16:15.07 | tensai | just single quotes actually |
| 16:15.07 | drewbono | or I can actually ignore the doubles, right? |
| 16:15.12 | drewbono | sweet. |
| 16:15.14 | Jayce^ | well, whatever you wrapped your text in |
| 16:15.23 | drewbono | tensai and Jayce^: Thanks. |
| 16:15.34 | tensai | you should use single quotes since that's what the entire sql world uses |
| 16:15.45 | Jayce^ | what language are you doing this in? or just on the CLI? |
| 16:16.00 | drewbono | cli |
| 16:16.02 | Jayce^ | k |
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| 16:19.14 | neybar | dbh->quote()? :p |
| 16:19.34 | Jayce^ | nah :) |
| 16:19.38 | tensai | stripslashes(), stripslashes()! |
| 16:19.46 | Jayce^ | ewww |
| 16:20.34 | Jayce^ | my $sth = $dbh->prepare('UPDATE faq SET answer = ?'); $sth->execute( $string ); |
| 16:21.34 | tensai | i love prepare(). it's a shame that the sql server driver doesn't support it. :( |
| 16:23.23 | Jayce^ | yeah, older mysql just faked it too.. :( |
| 16:23.32 | Jayce^ | so you used it, just didn't get the full benefit |
| 16:23.39 | Jayce^ | new stuff does though, thankfully |
| 16:23.51 | tensai | I guess the real shame is that I have to use sql server |
| 16:24.05 | Jayce^ | real shame... |
| 16:24.12 | Jayce^ | whatcha running it on? *grin* |
| 16:24.24 | Jayce^ | ~lart tensai's pain |
| 16:24.37 | Jayce^ | ~laugh at tensai's pain |
| 16:24.39 | ibot | HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! tensai's pain just cracks me up! |
| 16:24.48 | tensai | luckily I just have to query it. I don't have to admin it. |
| 16:25.36 | Jayce^ | yeah, I feel the pain, I've got a billing system on windows right now... POS... thankfully my job is to write it's replacement :) |
| 16:31.35 | levi | Good morning. |
| 16:33.52 | neybar | which driver are you using for sql server? |
| 16:35.02 | xbmodder | Jayce^, i am trying to get this linux-pos to work |
| 16:38.06 | Jayce^ | piece of... not point of sale :) |
| 16:38.55 | xbmodder | ooo |
| 16:39.19 | Jayce^ | it's actually made here in town, Eclipsenet |
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| 16:52.58 | goozbach | I blame the space-wizards |
| 16:55.14 | tensai | neybar: dbi:Sybase |
| 16:55.27 | Jayce^ | tensai, maybe try the DBD::ODBC ? |
| 16:57.40 | tensai | then I'd have to set up odbc |
| 17:10.22 | neybar | tensai: that is what I used when I did some mssql work. |
| 17:10.48 | neybar | did you have to setup a translater on that box that actually made the connection to the mssql server for you? |
| 17:13.10 | tensai | I do have freetds set up. I just commented out that config and it still seems to work. |
| 17:14.13 | tensai | DBI->connect('dbi:Sybase:$host', $user, $pass); |
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| 17:39.30 | spr | I know how to flush the mailq with postfix, but how do you do that with sendmail? |
| 17:39.32 | fozz | Ahhhh EclipseNet. |
| 17:39.42 | fozz | spr: 'sendmail -q' |
| 17:39.57 | Jayce^ | fozz, yeah, you remember that piece of $#$%#$% |
| 17:40.15 | fozz | Oh, it's a nice piece of software.... |
| 17:40.20 | fozz | if you're doing magazine subscriptions. |
| 17:40.32 | Jayce^ | sure, better for them, but still crap |
| 17:40.43 | spr | thanks |
| 17:40.51 | Jayce^ | so many hidden menus, options, that must be checked for anything to work |
| 17:41.05 | Jayce^ | the thing doesn't release cursors correctly |
| 17:42.48 | Jayce^ | ok, on debian testing (2.6.10-1), what process would create the /dev/md* ? |
| 17:43.33 | tensai | are you using udev? |
| 17:43.45 | Jayce^ | I sure thought I was... |
| 17:43.56 | Jayce^ | still think so |
| 17:44.09 | tensai | they should be created when you load md I think |
| 17:44.31 | Jayce^ | I thought so too :( |
| 17:44.39 | tensai | dm-mod? |
| 17:44.50 | tensai | raid[015].ko? |
| 17:45.10 | Jayce^ | I loaded raid1 |
| 17:46.14 | Jayce^ | what's dm-mod? |
| 17:46.32 | tensai | device mapper. used for lvm. not sure if software raid uses it too |
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| 17:49.14 | tensai | hmm. I loaded md and raid1 and no devices... |
| 17:50.28 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 17:50.55 | tensai | and I've already got dm-mod loaded for lvm. does raidstart fail? |
| 17:52.01 | tensai | we're not running 2.6 on any production boxes so I'm just kinda trying this on my desktop |
| 17:52.19 | Bradipo | Drat, chick.com is slashdotted and I was really getting into that cartoon about D&D. I think all wars should be resolved by the roll of dice and heck, even role playing in the woods with the Israeli's might be kind of fun. |
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| 17:53.15 | Jayce^ | tensai, just doing an mdadm --create dies 'cause it can't find the device |
| 17:56.10 | tensai | http://www.issociate.de/board/post/167125/dev/md*_Device_Files.html |
| 17:58.07 | Jayce^ | ahh |
| 17:58.10 | Jayce^ | that --auto got it |
| 17:58.19 | Jayce^ | google hadn't found that for me yet :( thanks |
| 18:00.02 | levi | Heh, chick.com is funny. |
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| 18:12.09 | tensai | I love OpenLDAP (today anyway). Replication is a champ. |
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| 18:16.00 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
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| 18:46.00 | tensai | fungus: ipv6, eh? |
| 18:46.20 | fungus | Yup! :) |
| 18:46.31 | tensai | how long? |
| 18:46.53 | fungus | only got the connection going for a month. |
| 18:47.13 | fungus | just started IRC over IPv6 though a few days ago. |
| 18:47.28 | levi | Gah, no wonder all my binaries are so big. uClibc has locale info compiled in, so I get 256k of locale crap in every stupid binary. |
| 18:47.37 | tensai | is it a tunneled connection or directly from your upstream? |
| 18:47.53 | fungus | tunneled. http://tunnelbroker.net |
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| 19:43.36 | findlay | is there a way to buy an apple laptop without having to pay for the OS? |
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| 19:50.53 | tensai | fat chance |
| 19:57.31 | Jayce^ | buying from ydl, you still are getting the os |
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| 20:15.31 | levi | Even if you run Linux as the primary OS, you can still use MoL to run OS X apps if you want. |
| 20:15.47 | bucky | hi levi :) |
| 20:15.52 | levi | Heya, bucky. |
| 20:16.34 | bucky | hehe |
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| 20:31.37 | Tene | fungus: who's your tunnel broker? |
| 20:32.02 | tensai | <fungus> tunneled. http://tunnelbroker.net |
| 20:32.45 | Tene | ... |
| 20:33.00 | Tene | so now the question is how I didn't process that as a url... |
| 20:33.24 | tensai | ~fix Tene's url parser |
| 20:33.27 | ibot | ACTION takes Tene's url parser to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 20:34.10 | tensai | yay. only 11 minutes for an import rather than 107. I didn't need those indexes anyway. |
| 20:34.35 | Tene | but of course, now that my nice linux router got replaced with a silly trendnet wireless router, it might be complicated to get a tunnel set up again. |
| 20:37.13 | fungus | As long as you can assign a public IP to any of your machines, it won't be too hard. |
| 20:37.34 | Tene | which I can't |
| 20:37.45 | fungus | doh. |
| 20:37.48 | Tene | comcast cable |
| 20:37.51 | Tene | hence, NAT |
| 20:39.38 | tensai | call them up and tell them you forgot your ipv6 address |
| 20:40.58 | Tene | every once in a while, I call them or get on the online support chat, and bother them about ipv6 |
| 20:45.45 | tensai | I knew I shouldn't have had that second glass of sulphuric acid |
| 20:45.58 | tensai | or sulfuric rather |
| 20:46.02 | Tene | you should add more |
| 20:46.11 | Tene | that will fix it. |
| 20:46.46 | tensai | I'm thinking a nice caustic base will neutral things out |
| 20:50.40 | bucky | tensai, there's a nice railway tanker full of refreshments waiting for you in South Salt Lake |
| 20:52.22 | bucky | who put hydrofluoric in the tanker? it can't even be put i glass bottles :( |
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| 21:20.58 | levi | Cool Richard Feynman article: http://www.physics.brocku.ca/etc/cargo_cult_science.html |
| 21:21.35 | bucky | hmm.. |
| 21:21.46 | bucky | Bebe passed away the other day |
| 21:22.33 | bucky | oh... that's one of my favorite articles :))) Cargo Cult Science |
| 21:24.25 | bucky | well.. it's time for me to get back to work building that UFO landing runway |
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| 21:24.43 | bucky | if you build it... they will come |
| 21:27.35 | bucky | In April, 2005, Perseus Books will be publishing "Perfectly Reasonable Deviations from the Beaten Track: The Letters of Richard P. Feynman". |
| 21:27.46 | bucky | lol |
| 21:29.36 | levi | Heh. |
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| 21:29.58 | bucky | http://www.feynmanonline.com/ Feynman News |
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| 21:38.38 | bucky | off for a drive to the rez on a perfectly sunny day |
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| 22:20.23 | sjansen | http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2005/03/08#a7726 |
| 22:20.26 | sjansen | So true. |
| 22:24.06 | goozbach | blogdump and run? |
| 22:24.13 | goozbach | ~lart sjansen |
| 22:24.33 | goozbach | he's not even on msn to taunt! |
| 22:27.34 | Maquis | haha |
| 22:27.45 | Maquis | that is a good page though... |
| 22:27.56 | levi | Indeed. |
| 22:27.56 | scott | it would be cool if while running a livecd you could erase the disk and burn the current state on it (cd-rw) |
| 22:28.17 | Maquis | scott: are you referring to the puppy linux that was posted on /. yesterday? |
| 22:28.43 | Maquis | (i'm still blaming tene for getting me onto /. yesterday... i'd been so good....) |
| 22:31.48 | scott | Maquis, cool, I hadn't seen that |
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| 23:35.48 | scott | cool, whereas gnoppix and knoppix didn't work on this screen (X config stuff with the monitor or video card I think) the new gnome 2.10 live cd works great |
| 23:37.33 | scott | i.e. I can finally run linux at work |
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