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| 00:14.11 | findlay | Hello, Mr. Frank Churchill |
| 00:16.38 | bonez39 | anyone here right now, running thunderbird? |
| 00:16.52 | bonez39 | I am running 0.4 and have no Export option for exporting address data |
| 00:16.57 | HarleyPig | No, but I'm listening to Freebird. |
| 00:17.18 | bonez39 | HarleyPig: such a sage response......how's Mr. Clapton today? |
| 00:17.31 | HarleyPig | smooth. As usual. :> |
| 00:18.03 | HarleyPig | Next up is Free Falling. I'm in a mellow mood for some reason. |
| 00:20.12 | bonez39 | oh, you can keep Mr. Petty....not a big fan but I do enjoy some of his work |
| 00:20.21 | bonez39 | or is this Free Falling from Clapton? |
| 00:20.41 | HarleyPig | ? Wasn't aware that EC had done a title called Free Falling. |
| 00:20.46 | HarleyPig | No, it's Petty. |
| 00:21.13 | dmdavis | Or free bird |
| 00:21.22 | dmdavis | at least, I wasn't |
| 00:22.13 | HarleyPig | Yes ... thank you. It is Lynrd Skynrd. I was listening to some Clapton earlier. |
| 00:22.29 | findlay | no, no, no... "The Firebird" is a ballet by Igor Strawinsky. |
| 00:22.50 | HarleyPig | :] |
| 00:22.58 | findlay | some good music in there too. |
| 00:23.16 | findlay | part of it was used in Fantasia 2000 |
| 00:27.03 | bonez39 | Free Bird..yeah, that's what I was thinking of... |
| 00:27.14 | bonez39 | ...wow..all around the music world here... |
| 00:27.29 | bonez39 | Yes does a few outtakes on the Firebird.... |
| 00:46.17 | Bradipo | ``If I leave here tomorrow...'' |
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| 17:47.40 | *** topic/#utah is Thursday - UUG presentation 'Regular Expressions', all invited : http://plug.org http://sllug.org http://uug.byu.edu http://fslc.usu.edu http://www.ldsoss.org - ask ibot for the news (/msg ibot news) |
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| 18:23.59 | lukfugl | 'lo all |
| 18:24.24 | Jayce^ | lo |
| 18:24.25 | dmdavis | hi |
| 18:24.30 | lukfugl | hate to always hit and run, but it's the only way I can even get in here while at work :) |
| 18:24.59 | lukfugl | today's question: can I change the MAILTO variable i the middle of a crontab? |
| 18:25.36 | dmdavis | no idea |
| 18:25.41 | lukfugl | say I've got cronjobs A, B and C. I want any output from A and B to go to john@doe.com, but any output from C to go to jane@doe.com |
| 18:26.17 | lukfugl | (you'll probably suggest having john and jane as users have different crontabs, but that's not an option at the moment) |
| 18:26.18 | Bradipo | Hmm, maybe if you run the command with env |
| 18:26.52 | Bradipo | * * * * * env MAILTO=jane@doe.com /usr/local/bin/croncommand |
| 18:27.02 | Bradipo | I don't know if that will actually work or not though. |
| 18:28.26 | lukfugl | I guess that means it's time to experiment |
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| 18:28.36 | Fistendel | sup |
| 18:28.39 | Jayce^ | hey Fistendel... |
| 18:28.47 | Fistendel | is Harley here? |
| 18:28.54 | Jayce^ | just stepped out.. |
| 18:28.56 | bonez39 | Jayce^: oh, never my intention.....I ask you all as I respect your knowledge and abilities....;) |
| 18:28.57 | Jayce^ | usually is though |
| 18:29.03 | Fistendel | bastich |
| 18:29.05 | Jayce^ | bonez39, :) |
| 18:29.12 | Fistendel | musta smelt me coming |
| 18:32.34 | Jayce^ | so lukfugl, you like that little web hack I did for last night? |
| 18:34.21 | lukfugl | yeah :) |
| 18:35.11 | lukfugl | nope, that didn't work |
| 18:38.50 | lukfugl | well -- maybe. Does stdout get mailed to the mail to, or just stderr? |
| 18:39.16 | Jayce^ | stdout usually goes to the user... dont' know with that mailto thing added |
| 18:39.16 | lukfugl | I was trying '* * * * * MAILTO=me echo "crontest"' and didn't get any mail |
| 18:39.45 | lukfugl | The full crontab looks like this: |
| 18:40.07 | lukfugl | MAILTO=someone |
| 18:40.15 | lukfugl | [cron job 1] |
| 18:40.17 | lukfugl | [cron job 2] |
| 18:40.42 | lukfugl | [cron job 3 is the one I just showed] |
| 18:41.08 | lukfugl | I know that the output (stderr or stdout I don't know) from 1 and 2 are already successfully going to 'someone' |
| 18:41.37 | lukfugl | but stdout from cron job 3 wasn't coming to me, and 'someone' isn't in right now so I don't know if it went to them or not |
| 18:42.11 | adminsmurf | Which cron program are us using. |
| 18:43.14 | lukfugl | Vixie Cron (according to the man page) |
| 18:44.06 | lukfugl | can't seem to figure out how to get a version number |
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| 18:45.21 | lukfugl | ok, just checked (temporarily changed the crontab global mailto to me) and stdout does come to me now. So localizing MAILTO as an environment variable doesn't work |
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| 18:47.55 | synic | xilch: yo |
| 18:48.20 | xilch | hey |
| 18:48.28 | Jayce^ | lo xilch |
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| 18:48.51 | xilch | Jayce^: once again, nice presentation last night |
| 18:50.35 | lukfugl | oh, well. I guess I'll just modify my script to send the email itself with the STDOUT portion instead of writing to STDOUT, and hope the MAILTO recipient forwards me any STDERR output (don't expect there to be any, but you know ... :) |
| 18:51.31 | Jayce^ | danke |
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| 19:01.28 | Fistendel | Jayce^: Where did Harleypig go? |
| 19:02.34 | Fistendel | brb |
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| 19:52.20 | Hanuman | all these German names... |
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| 19:53.29 | Fistendel | what up pig |
| 19:54.00 | Fistendel | er Harley |
| 19:55.33 | Fistendel | hello is there anyone there? |
| 19:55.49 | Jayce^ | nope :) |
| 19:56.39 | Fistendel | oh figures:) |
| 19:58.57 | Fistendel | so Jayce twice a month? |
| 19:59.11 | fozzmoo | That's what his wife said. |
| 19:59.15 | fozzmoo | Buahhh hah hah hah |
| 19:59.20 | fozzmoo | Sorry. |
| 19:59.21 | Fistendel | no, she said twice a year |
| 19:59.32 | fozzmoo | Oh, I'm here too. |
| 19:59.35 | Hanuman | nay |
| 19:59.38 | emcnabb_ | I'm here |
| 19:59.53 | Fistendel | Are you guys sure? |
| 20:00.12 | Hanuman | ay |
| 20:00.31 | fozzmoo | Bye Jayce! |
| 20:00.42 | Fistendel | prolly a good idea |
| 20:01.22 | HarleyPig | Hey Fistendel! |
| 20:01.32 | Fistendel | What's up |
| 20:02.07 | HarleyPig | clouds |
| 20:02.07 | HarleyPig | little birdies |
| 20:02.16 | Fistendel | inversion |
| 20:03.02 | HarleyPig | heh |
| 20:04.47 | fozzmoo | Am I the only one who isn't impressed by the fact we've set a new record with this inversion? :) |
| 20:04.59 | levi | I want it to GO AWAY already. |
| 20:05.03 | HarleyPig | What record? 83 was worse. |
| 20:05.28 | neybar_work | there is actually a little bit of sunshine here in Provo |
| 20:05.29 | fozzmoo | We're setting a new record every day with number of consecutive days where the high temperature doesn't go above freezing. |
| 20:05.42 | fozzmoo | The record was 18 and we're like on day 21, I think. |
| 20:05.49 | neybar_work | yup |
| 20:05.56 | emcnabb_ | this is normal for me (I'm from Illinois) :-) |
| 20:06.10 | emcnabb_ | anyone know of any morphing software for Linux? |
| 20:06.29 | Fistendel | Neybar, how goes it my friend |
| 20:06.34 | neybar_work | I am really surprised that I haven't gotten a cold yet. Three years ago when we had that bad inversion I got the worst cold/sinus infection ever |
| 20:06.46 | neybar_work | not too shabby |
| 20:06.53 | fozzmoo | WEather.com says we MIGHT get above freezing tomorrow. |
| 20:07.14 | fozzmoo | But then it's back to upper 20s again after that. |
| 20:07.30 | neybar_work | I don't care so much about the temp, I just want a nice breeze to move this crap outta here |
| 20:07.33 | HarleyPig | Ok ... I'm going back to knoppix ... bbiab |
| 20:07.53 | fozzmoo | Yeah. Need to get some big fans out in Magna blowing this stuff outa here. |
| 20:08.21 | levi | I want to see the sun! |
| 20:08.26 | fozzmoo | Go to Heber. |
| 20:08.30 | levi | I want all the stupid snow on the ground to melt! |
| 20:08.45 | neybar_work | and as soon as the lightrail comes to utah county I will be riding it. I'm sure it doesn't help that there are so many cars on the road everyday |
| 20:08.46 | levi | I'm sick of lumps of ice in the parking lots. |
| 20:09.09 | fozzmoo | light rail doesn't help pollution. |
| 20:09.15 | fozzmoo | But don't get me started. |
| 20:09.17 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 20:09.21 | neybar_work | mass transit |
| 20:09.47 | neybar_work | no lets get it started, I wanna hear. |
| 20:10.00 | fozzmoo | Oh boy. |
| 20:10.18 | fozzmoo | Where do I start. |
| 20:10.27 | fozzmoo | Well, consider all the on-grade crossings TRAX has. |
| 20:10.36 | fozzmoo | 2100 So, 7200 So, 3300 So... |
| 20:10.38 | fozzmoo | Just to name a few. |
| 20:10.43 | neybar_work | ok |
| 20:10.56 | fozzmoo | The trains stop vehicle traffic there for 30+ seconds every 5 minutes or so. |
| 20:11.06 | fozzmoo | This means people on those roads have to wait |
| 20:11.12 | fozzmoo | They don't shut their engines off. |
| 20:11.22 | fozzmoo | They idle- pouring more toxic pollution into the air. |
| 20:12.14 | fozzmoo | UTA's own estimates back in the 80s said that light rail would only take 500 cars off the road. |
| 20:12.36 | fozzmoo | For the price tag, we could have built condos for those 500 drivers closer to where they worked. |
| 20:13.29 | fozzmoo | Salt Lake valley just doesn't have the population density to support light rail. So, we're basically going to be losing tax money on it big time for the next 20 or so years until we do have that density. |
| 20:13.53 | fozzmoo | And then UTA will say, "Light rail is so... 1999. We need maglev." |
| 20:14.04 | fozzmoo | And then I'll pass out from an anneurism. :) |
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| 20:14.16 | hans__ | lol |
| 20:14.19 | HarleyPig | Helloooo everybody! |
| 20:14.28 | fozzmoo | Hey h-pig |
| 20:14.35 | HarleyPig | back on knoppix |
| 20:14.51 | neybar_work | so then what should be done, if anything, about having so many cars on the road? |
| 20:15.07 | HarleyPig | randomly activated mines buried in the road. |
| 20:15.13 | neybar_work | lol |
| 20:15.30 | fozzmoo | If UTA hadn't shut down so many bus routes to force people to ride TRAX "or else," we'd be in better shape. |
| 20:15.55 | fozzmoo | I used to tell people they should have just paved the right of way for TRAX and run buses up and down those routes. It would have been a lot cheaper. |
| 20:16.36 | hans | heh |
| 20:17.02 | fozzmoo | Sure, the rest of the world woudl have laughed at us in 2002, but we'd be better off economically. |
| 20:17.35 | fozzmoo | Me too. |
| 20:17.41 | fozzmoo | This permafrost stuff is stupid. |
| 20:17.51 | fozzmoo | I WANT TO SHOVEL! |
| 20:18.00 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 20:18.11 | fozzmoo | I wonder how much we'll get tomorrow, if any. |
| 20:18.31 | fozzmoo | weather.com says 60% chance of precip. |
| 20:18.41 | Jayce^ | hopefully |
| 20:19.36 | Hanuman | we're getting a ton of snow on Sunday |
| 20:19.47 | neybar_work | only bummer with the snow, is that I can't park on the street now... my drive way is only wide enough for one car, so we get to play musical cars all the time. |
| 20:21.41 | fozzmoo | Like a rat? |
| 20:21.48 | fozzmoo | That stinks. |
| 20:22.00 | fozzmoo | Good luck getting rid of that smell. |
| 20:22.33 | fozzmoo | :-) |
| 20:22.59 | Jayce^ | hehe.. |
| 20:23.07 | Jayce^ | something electrical.. so now the battery is dead |
| 20:23.58 | Hanuman | I'm going to have to park out on the side of our apartments here just in case we get snowed in so I can drive should I need to on Sunday |
| 20:24.07 | Hanuman | snow plows aren't as good over here |
| 20:25.09 | hans | Jayce^: any reason why your sig has two -- lines? |
| 20:26.05 | Jayce^ | for the heck of it |
| 20:27.10 | Hanuman | Jayce^-- |
| 20:27.24 | Hanuman | ~Jayce^---- |
| 20:29.22 | HarleyPig | Looks like a fancy hilt for a stilleto. |
| 20:31.26 | hans | neybar_work: would you mind doing group reply instead of list reply too? |
| 20:34.23 | Jayce^ | laptop now booting mandrake 10.. |
| 20:51.56 | k9 | Mandrake 10?!? |
| 20:55.46 | Jayce^ | yeah, first beta |
| 20:56.08 | fozzmoo | Anything cool? |
| 20:56.17 | fozzmoo | 2.6? :) |
| 20:56.17 | Jayce^ | 2.6.1, kde 3.2 |
| 20:56.22 | fozzmoo | Wow. |
| 20:56.28 | fozzmoo | I hope FC2 will be that cool. |
| 21:00.38 | neybar_work | hans: I don't think kmail has group reply, or at least I don't see it |
| 21:01.22 | neybar_work | I have reply, reply-all, reply-list |
| 21:01.40 | fozzmoo | Isn't that reply-all? |
| 21:01.45 | fozzmoo | Isn't that the same as group reply? |
| 21:01.47 | neybar_work | *shrug* |
| 21:02.32 | neybar_work | why would you want reply group over reply list? then you are getting double reply aren't you? |
| 21:03.59 | HarleyPig | How reply-random? |
| 21:04.15 | hans | yeah, reply-all |
| 21:04.30 | HarleyPig | You can choose to reply to a random entry in your database, or from the list or just make up an email from whole cloth. |
| 21:04.31 | hans | neybar_work: not if the client honors mail-followup-to |
| 21:04.36 | hans | but most apparently don't |
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| 21:22.38 | Tenebram | Hey, anyone in here have any suggestions for good modem brands? |
| 21:22.44 | fozzmoo | 3Com |
| 21:22.46 | neybar_work | 3com |
| 21:22.48 | fozzmoo | US Robotics. |
| 21:23.32 | fozzmoo | I've used an Intel "hardware" modem (which requires a software driver to work) - and it seems to work pretty well, but I coudln't connect to XMission from a computer in Magna with one where a 3Com worked perfect. |
| 21:23.37 | neybar_work | assuming you are sticking this in a linux machine, you will have less headaches if you get a hardware modem |
| 21:23.43 | fozzmoo | Indeedly. |
| 21:27.05 | Tenebram | How would one tell the difference when purchasing a modem? |
| 21:27.13 | Tenebram | I'm asking this in proxy for someone else, by the way. |
| 21:27.21 | fozzmoo | Look at the specs. |
| 21:27.35 | fozzmoo | When I'm looking for a modem on EBay, I look for "not a Winmodem" |
| 21:27.52 | Hanuman | darn - that's what I was going to suggest |
| 21:28.22 | fozzmoo | :) |
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| 21:30.28 | Hanuman | Happy Chinese New Year BTW |
| 21:30.36 | fozzmoo | yeeeeaaaghghghghgrrrrhhh! |
| 21:30.49 | fozzmoo | That was my Howard Dean impersonation. :-) |
| 21:30.49 | Hanuman | Is that a Dean impression? |
| 21:30.53 | Hanuman | lol |
| 21:31.07 | Hanuman | Bet they heard that in China |
| 21:31.13 | k9 | I thought it was a Dukes of Hazzard impression |
| 21:31.21 | k9 | hmmm |
| 21:31.24 | k9 | my name changed |
| 21:31.24 | Hanuman | the ghghghghrrr gave it away |
| 21:31.28 | fozzmoo | He looks like he's on meth in the video. |
| 21:31.44 | Hanuman | I thought it sounded like a WWF match |
| 21:31.55 | Hanuman | He'd make a good wrestler |
| 21:31.56 | fozzmoo | Yeah- he should do announcements for the Delta Center. |
| 21:32.04 | jakea | shhhhh, it's the WWE now, you don't want to get sued! |
| 21:32.19 | fozzmoo | "On Saturday! KIDS GET IN FREE! YeeeeeeaAAAAAARGHGHRGRR!" |
| 21:32.29 | Hanuman | sorry - WWE |
| 21:32.34 | Hanuman | WWF |
| 21:32.37 | Hanuman | WWF |
| 21:32.39 | Hanuman | WWF |
| 21:32.47 | Hanuman | ^sue Hanuman |
| 21:32.50 | fozzmoo | (Cleaning your up arrow?) |
| 21:33.14 | Hanuman | yeah |
| 21:33.27 | Hanuman | lol - actually I wasn't even thinking - I typed it in each time |
| 21:33.36 | HarleyPig | :D |
| 21:34.37 | fozzmoo | I was IMing a friend of mine last night and got a sunflower seed shell stuck under my Z key. I popped it off, picked the shell out, and popped it back on and had to test it out. I meant to not send all those Zs but I hit ENTER inadvertently. |
| 21:34.54 | fozzmoo | He thought I thought he was boring. |
| 21:35.17 | Hanuman | lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll |
| 21:35.20 | Hanuman | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 21:35.23 | Hanuman | llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll |
| 21:35.47 | Hanuman | WWF |
| 21:39.44 | Hanuman | Well, goodbye work PLUG account |
| 21:44.33 | Hanuman | Jayce^: I can't figure out my password to unsubscribe my work account for pluglist - can you unsubscribe jesse@cwdkids.com for me when you get a chance? (I still want my home account) |
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