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00:24.20Jayce^http://www.anti-tshirts.com/
00:24.24Jayce^niiiice
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04:05.33harleypigCan anyone point me to a howto to create a cd I can use in a cd player?
04:05.40harleypigjust using cdrecord
04:08.05harleypigI know the files need to be wav's but how do I create the iso (what parms do I feed mkisofs? cdrecord?)
04:22.12neybarstill can't get X running?
04:22.48harleypigNope.  I'm pretty sure it's the card.
04:23.14harleypigI don't have a card I can test.  Wait a minute ... I think I do.  I'll have to looktomorrow.
04:43.04Jayce^harleypig, if all else fails, I have one you can borrow
04:52.18harleypigthanks
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05:25.11synic_harleypig: cdrecord -audio -pad -dev=0,0,0 track1.wav track2.wav
05:25.26synic_harleypig: cdrecord -audio -pad -vv -dev=0,0,0 track1.wav track2.wav
05:25.39synic_gotta get the -vv :)
05:47.16harleypigthanks
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13:52.16elg~slashdot
13:52.44elgibot, can you get to slashdot?
13:52.44elg: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
13:52.57elgsometimes
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14:40.25tewk_hold on a minute
15:15.26elgok
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17:38.13sjansenI'm surprised noone has mentioned the SCO code or the LWN article yet.
17:38.17sjansen~slashdot
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19:00.33Jayce^so what's the command for creating a sub-key (for a different email address) from your main gpg key?
19:18.47HanumanI'm baaaack
19:26.41Jayce^ruh-oh
19:31.11brailsmt_workin fact, I enjoy almost as much as hearing about the latest MS virus
19:31.42Jayce^aww.. c'mon, a basic commment from public domain system 7 malloc code is serious IP infringement... even if the code isnt' the same..
19:32.25brailsmt_workand even if tha code has been published before, and released no less than twice under a BSD license, including once by SCO itself...
19:32.38brailsmt_worki mean how dare we copy that?
19:32.45emcnabb_today has been a great day; I'll I've done is read slashdot comments about SCO's dead case
19:33.17brailsmt_workthough SCO now claims millions of lines of linux source infringes its IP...
19:33.30brailsmt_workI can't wait for SCO to claim that billions of lines in linux infringe
19:33.32brailsmt_work:)
19:33.37Jayce^grows faster than their stock :)
19:34.04emcnabb_millions of white space... you theives, stop stealing SCO's tab technology
19:34.17brailsmt_workwell, apparently SCO doesn't like the criticism that ~10000 lines of code doesn't give them the ability to charge for the whole OS...
19:34.23Jayce^don't forget their all important \n :)
19:34.43emcnabb_stop showing me infringing \n's!
19:34.53emcnabb_I don't want to sign your NDA jayce!
19:34.53brailsmt_workthough kudos to SCO's code obfuscation team
19:35.02brailsmt_workthey did a bang up job
19:35.08Jayce^oh yeah..
19:35.24Jayce^and at the same time, proving that they used windows to do it..
19:35.34emcnabb_well, now to make my day more productive by taking a nap
19:35.40brailsmt_worklol
19:36.13brailsmt_workisn't bzflag more productive than a nap?
19:36.33Jayce^oh yeah
19:36.42emcnabb_they are both special in their own ways
19:46.58elganyone have good equipment for digitizing stuff on cassette tape?
19:48.23sjansenHave you talked with Art? He might have something.
19:49.33Hanumanelg: in xhtml does the DOCTYPE have to be in caps?  I thought the specs call for all lower-case.
19:49.45elgupper
19:50.14Hanumanso DOCTYPE is in upper, but everything else requires all lower, correct?
19:50.23Jayce^yeah
19:50.46HanumanThat's what I thought - the doctype always confuses me
19:50.58HanumanI hate upper-casing things
19:51.40Hanumanyet all the auto-html programs out there do upper, so all the html I ever have to edit from other developers comes in upper
19:51.53HanumanI hate editing others' html
19:53.57HanumanI also hate people that use auto-html programs like dreamweaver, etc
19:54.34Hanumanokay - this one was auto-generated from Photoshop.  That's why
19:56.39brailsmt_worki hate html...  :)
20:00.32BradipoMe too.
20:02.39HanumanMe too, but I'm beginning to like XML more and more.
20:15.02BradipoHmm, I can't say that I like XML either. :-)
20:17.52elgi can. :)
20:19.06brailsmt_workXML is fine by me...
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21:21.12Jayce^grr, what's the name of the x program that let's you know the keycode for a given key?
21:27.33sjansenxev
21:36.36emcnabb_wow, that nap was nice......
21:51.09Jayce^now those are hilarious /. comments..
21:51.23emcnabb_yeah they do
21:51.32emcnabb_there are some smart people out there
21:51.42emcnabb_and dumb ones :-)
21:51.55emcnabb_favorite quote from the lwn article: "And this, of course, is why SCO refuses to show the code that, it claims, is copied. These claims do not stand up to even a few hours' scrutiny on the net. "
21:55.46Jayce^so now, who is going to do a fan film based on the two scripts (that soren posted), to help get the word out..
21:59.38emcnabb_haha!
21:59.40emcnabb_that's great
22:11.42emcnabb_Jayce^, when SCO loses, can we drive up and down SCO's street in your truck with the back filled with linux nuts who are scream and blowing airhorns?
22:13.02Jayce^oh heck yeah..
22:15.08brailsmt_workcybercuzco writes "The movie industry is blaming poor sales of such movies as Gigli, The Hulk and Charlies Angels not on the fact that they were poor quality, but because people text message other people telling them that the movie stinks. Industry executives say that this undermines a carefully crafted marketing image. Expect texting to be banned by the MPAA in the near future."
22:15.33brailsmt_workwill these stupid executives stop at nothing to trample all over our freedoms and liberty?
22:15.56brailsmt_workand i really, really liked The Hulk
22:16.00brailsmt_work;)
22:16.01Jayce^of course not..
22:19.20brailsmt_work:D
22:19.25emcnabb_I heard Gigli was one of the most stupid movies of all time
22:19.35emcnabb_look at me undermine the industry
22:19.37emcnabb_it's true!
22:19.44emcnabb_text messaging is of the devil!
22:19.56neybaroh, you are so in Trouble!
22:20.31Jayce^it's those smtp to text gateways 'eh ? :)
22:20.58emcnabb_brailsmt_work, you're not aloud to think that!
22:21.41brailsmt_workas if they mean anything anymore...
22:21.53Jayce^heh.. only if you don't mention anything remotely christian..
22:22.13brailsmt_workor the pledge of allegiance
22:22.27emcnabb_brailsmt_work, we live in a different age; thinking about a movie in a bad way is a terrorist act
22:22.32brailsmt_workaclu does good things and bad things
22:22.52emcnabb_if the aclu can shut up sco, I'll start liking them
22:23.00emcnabb_and the movie industry
22:23.05emcnabb_and the RIAA
22:23.08emcnabb_that;s it
22:23.09brailsmt_workthough they are deafly silent on a lot of things that matter
22:23.15Jayce^course it's the same group that tries to shut up the church...
22:23.44brailsmt_workbut the aclu isn't all bad...
22:24.08brailsmt_workdidn't they file a complaint about RFIDs?
22:25.13emcnabb_hitler wasn't all bad, he did a lot of things to recover the german economy :-)
22:25.26Jayce^they also push that the second ammendment applies *only* to state militia groups.. not to individuals..
22:25.41Jayce^emcnabb_++
22:25.48brailsmt_worki wouldn't go so far as to compare the aclu to hitler...
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23:39.07neybarhow often do apt packages get updated?
23:39.21BradipoWhat do you mean?
23:39.32BradipoHow often do developers update their apt packages?
23:39.51neybarI am admining a debian box.  I run apt-get upgrade every so often I can't remember the last time I got an update
23:40.08Jayce^Bradipo, you figure out your apache problem from yesterday
23:40.09Jayce^?
23:40.34neybars/en /en, /
23:41.04BradipoYeah.
23:41.12BradipoYou'll never believe how lame it was.
23:41.20BradipoWhy doesn't Apache log something more informative...
23:41.37BradipoWe had to download the apache source code and figure out where that error message came from.
23:41.52BradipoTurns out that the /usr/sbin/suexec binary needed to be either deleted or the SUID bit removed.
23:42.01Jayce^interesting..
23:42.03BradipoSomething so simple, yet the error message made it lame.
23:42.31hans_neybar: what distribution are you running? (stable, testing, etc.)
23:42.52neybarstable I think
23:43.21hans_then that's why
23:43.44hans_stable only gets updates when security issues come up or with the occasional (e.g. every 6 mos or so) bug-fix update.
23:44.17neybarnot that I'm itching for updates or anything, I'm just used to sourcemage and they update several times a day it seems like :-)
23:44.34Jayce^neybar, you are also running > stable in smgl aren't you?
23:44.43neybartesting/devel
23:44.53Jayce^yeah, quite a bit different that way..
23:45.09Jayce^although devel is now a true devel, and you shouldnt' run it unless you want things to break
23:45.12neybaralthough I am really getting close to jumping over to debian for my server
23:46.11Jayce^I've been playing with freebsd 5.1 on a little box of mine.. doesn't really seem all that much different from old freebsd's so far..
23:48.10Bradiponeybar: If you use the testing or unstable branches then you can get updates relatively quickly.
23:48.19BradipoBut your system may also end up unusable at times. :-)
23:48.28neybarI got smtp auth working with exim hans_  I am really liking exim more then postfix after playing with it for a few days
23:48.31Jayce^life on the edge :)
23:48.40neybarlol

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