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| 16:28.44 | carmony | Gooooood morning! |
| 16:30.04 | jsmith | Morning, carmony |
| 16:31.01 | carmony | So..... I wasn't able to find a speaker for Thursday yet.... anybody willing to do a late notice speaking gig? :D |
| 16:31.55 | jsmith | carmony: If I were anywhere close, I would... |
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| 16:43.19 | jsmith | carmony: I can ask some co-workers if they'd be willing to speak... |
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| 16:50.16 | carmony | You know what, I might just do a talk of "How to give a technical talk" |
| 16:51.09 | herlo | nice! |
| 16:56.01 | UtahDave | carmony: that would be awesome! |
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| 17:37.43 | UtahDave | Has anyone played around with the data here: https://opendata.utah.gov ? |
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| 20:01.08 | josephscott | http://samy.pl/keysweeper/ |
| 20:06.30 | carmony | josephscott: so remember that conversation of whether to keep your dependencies in your repo? |
| 20:06.45 | josephscott | yep :-) |
| 20:06.52 | carmony | well we got bit by it today |
| 20:07.10 | josephscott | what happened? |
| 20:07.13 | carmony | bower was down when we tried to do a release |
| 20:07.58 | josephscott | bummer, though figure it was a matter of time |
| 20:08.39 | josephscott | carmony: what did you end up doing to work around it? |
| 20:11.11 | UtahDave | carmony!!!! never depend on servers outside of your control if you can help it!! |
| 20:12.57 | josephscott | UtahDave: you must have missed that after UPHPU discussion :-) |
| 20:13.18 | UtahDave | Yeah, I think so! :) |
| 20:14.00 | UtahDave | sorry I missed it. I'm going to miss the next one, too. Wife's birthday |
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| 20:14.33 | josephscott | I think my point in the original discussion was that you shouldn't rely on outside servers/services in order to deploy code to production |
| 20:15.05 | josephscott | for other specific cases depending on outside services is probably a good idea ( Stripe for payments is an example that comes to mind ) |
| 20:15.11 | herlo | UtahDave: you should stop missing UtahPython, though. You'd have loved the last meeting. :) |
| 20:15.49 | UtahDave | I know, I totally wanted to be at that packaging meeting. |
| 20:16.16 | UtahDave | josephscott: I think I'm in about 100% agreement with you on that. |
| 20:16.33 | herlo | UtahDave: it was fun! :D |
| 20:16.48 | UtahDave | herlo: sounds like it! |
| 20:17.05 | josephscott | UtahDave: unfortunately that goes against the general approach of the latest round of package managers |
| 20:18.15 | UtahDave | josephscott: it's basically impossible to ensure that what you're testing is going to be what you get in production. Certain packages could suddenly be unavailable, or your needed version could be unavailable. I can go on and on |
| 20:18.39 | josephscott | don't worry, I did go on and on about it :-) |
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| 20:31.02 | carmony | UtahDave, josephscott: I know, I know, I've learned my lesson |
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| 20:44.18 | UtahDave | :) |
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| 22:45.55 | ninnypants | carmony: January meeting? |
| 22:46.11 | herlo | ninnypants: you are now presenting. :) |
| 22:47.03 | ninnypants | herlo: dang I better find some time to write a talk between now and Thursday |
| 22:50.21 | herlo | ninnypants: exactly! :D |
| 22:51.03 | ninnypants | luckily I wont have to use setup.py |
| 22:55.47 | herlo | why not? It's a very nice tool. :) |
| 22:55.56 | carmony | ninnypants: I'm speaking :P |
| 22:56.33 | herlo | carmony: ahh, you ruined my fun! :D |
| 22:56.40 | carmony | lol |
| 22:57.00 | ninnypants | herlo: something tells me you just might know what it's like to use setup.py during a user group meeting |
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| 22:57.25 | herlo | ninnypants: lol |
| 22:57.48 | ninnypants | for reference https://twitter.com/__mharrison__/status/553388573727408128 |
| 22:57.49 | herlo | ninnypants: did you see something? I'm not sure I know what you mean... |
| 23:00.29 | herlo | :D |
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