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| 16:08.02 | josephscott | this looks neat - http://littlebits.cc/bits/cloudbit |
| 16:08.28 | josephscott | an embedded linux, with wifi |
| 16:10.04 | jsmith | I bought the littlebits music kit for my son last year for Christmas |
| 16:10.16 | jsmith | (the one that's essentially a mini Korg) |
| 16:10.21 | jsmith | He's really had fun with it |
| 16:10.46 | jsmith | But at the cost of the cloudbit, why not just buy a BeagleBone Black or Raspberry Pi or something much more powerful? |
| 16:10.51 | josephscott | I like the simplified approach littlebits is taking with these pieces |
| 16:11.14 | jsmith | Sure, but that's a lot of money to spend on "simple" |
| 16:12.50 | josephscott | I like that we are in an age with so many different options and approaches for small and fairly inexpensive building blocks like this |
| 16:14.36 | jsmith | Aye :-) |
| 16:14.39 | jsmith | ... and so little time... |
| 16:15.28 | josephscott | totally |
| 16:16.07 | josephscott | I'm jealous for the types of things my kids will have time and access to over the next 10 - 15 years |
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| 17:01.51 | josephscott | I really like the design and flow on the digitalocean dashboard |
| 17:02.05 | josephscott | very clean and mostly simple |
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| 17:07.27 | josephscott | the $5/mo VM is nice for spinning up a one off, experiment for a few hours, then kill it |
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| 20:37.40 | infobot | somebody said 1337 was zwampy |
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| 21:39.46 | mgeary | hey folks, iâve got a server that a client has gotten in to and kind of wonked up a bit. As a band-aid, it appears that it helps if we restart mysql occassionally. Iâm trying to rig a cron job to do that, and iâm failing... |
| 21:39.58 | mgeary | is there a cron-friendly way to do âservice mysql restartâ ? |
| 21:41.08 | ninnypants | mgeary: are you just doing `0 */4 * * * service mysql restart` ? |
| 21:41.37 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.45 | mgeary | i also tried /etc/init.d/... |
| 21:43.05 | ninnypants | did you try a bash file instead? |
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| 22:03.47 | mgeary | ninnypants: no |
| 22:04.25 | SunSparc | mgeary: Does syslog tell you what is going on when cron tries to run that entry? |
| 22:19.04 | mgeary | no, but iâm seeing that it wants to send an email about that. Aliasing root to me, to see |
| 22:41.25 | mgeary | SunSparc: /usr/bin/service: 127: /usr/bin/service: stop: not found |
| 22:41.32 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.51 | herlo | mgeary: service <name> <action> |
| 22:42.12 | herlo | if that doesn't work, try /etc/init.d/<name> <action> |
| 22:42.23 | mgeary | herlo clearly doesnât read what i write here |
| 22:42.32 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:42.36 | herlo | mgeary: I only read the last 5 lines or so. :) |
| 22:42.40 | mgeary | psh |
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| 22:43.04 | mgeary | hey, herlo, KSL Deals has Snowbasin tickets for $72, down from $89 |
| 22:43.08 | herlo | mgeary: actuall, your problem is that it's /sbin/service |
| 22:43.10 | herlo | lol |
| 22:43.24 | herlo | mgeary: I just bought a couple alta tickets the other day, $70/each. |
| 22:43.32 | herlo | mgeary: we should do that, too. |
| 22:43.43 | herlo | mgeary: now would be a good time for me to buy those. |
| 22:44.03 | mgeary | where did you get the alta tickets? |
| 22:44.35 | herlo | a friend got them, sold them to me. I think they won them but don't ski. |
| 22:44.51 | mgeary | ah |
| 22:44.56 | herlo | it's $79 this year at alta with an alta card. |
| 22:45.14 | herlo | I'm probably going to go up there this saturday and chat with them about the passes. |
| 22:45.52 | herlo | mgeary: did /sbin/service help? |
| 22:45.57 | herlo | mgeary: check 'which service' |
| 22:46.09 | mgeary | weâve gotten season passes to Sundance this year, so iâll probably only be going to the other resorts once each, so my daughter can use her Ski Utah pass |
| 22:46.22 | herlo | mgeary: I'm interested in going there, too. |
| 22:47.13 | mgeary | herlo: tried that, too |
| 22:47.15 | mgeary | same response |
| 22:47.29 | mgeary | which service yields: /usr/sbin/service |
| 22:49.27 | herlo | okay |
| 22:49.32 | herlo | so that's the right thing to do... |
| 22:50.14 | herlo | mgeary: oh, are you running it as root? |
| 22:50.26 | mgeary | yes |
| 22:50.43 | herlo | crontab -l? |
| 22:50.50 | herlo | or in /etc/cron.d? |
| 22:51.32 | herlo | mgeary: ^^ |
| 22:52.58 | mgeary | crontab |
| 22:53.33 | herlo | hang on a sec... |
| 22:58.10 | mgeary | herlo: http://www.ksl.com/public/deal/show/10361 |
| 22:58.19 | herlo | mgeary: what distro and version are you running this? |
| 22:59.38 | mgeary | uname -a outputs: |
| 22:59.40 | mgeary | Linux reliance-main 3.2.0-55-virtual #85-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 12:49:31 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:59.52 | herlo | is the service name 'mysql' or mysqld? |
| 23:00.27 | herlo | and we're using upstart here, right? |
| 23:00.32 | herlo | mgeary: ^^ |
| 23:01.18 | mgeary | mysql. doing it as root from the CLI works as expected |
| 23:01.24 | herlo | okay. |
| 23:01.27 | mgeary | âupstartâ? |
| 23:01.34 | herlo | does /etc/init/ exist? |
| 23:01.49 | herlo | upstart is the init system (as opposed to sysV) that ubuntu has used for a while now. |
| 23:01.58 | herlo | fedora uses systemd, for instance. |
| 23:02.25 | herlo | mgeary: but that works for me |
| 23:02.25 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.28 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.35 | herlo | Stopping mysqld: [ OK ] |
| 23:02.35 | herlo | Starting mysqld: [ OK ] |
| 23:02.43 | herlo | I'm on centos 6.6 here |
| 23:02.47 | mgeary | but when i use it, it says to use upstart |
| 23:02.53 | herlo | ew! |
| 23:03.06 | herlo | so look up the upstart commands to start it. |
| 23:03.21 | herlo | instead of service, it's something else, I think. Been a while. |
| 23:03.22 | mgeary | i figured that was âserviceâ |
| 23:03.24 | mgeary | ah |
| 23:03.25 | herlo | no |
| 23:03.32 | herlo | that's a generic command from RHEL, actually. |
| 23:03.43 | mgeary | but none of that explains why âservice mysql restartâ doesnât work |
| 23:04.20 | herlo | yes it does. |
| 23:04.20 | herlo | if it is telling you to use upstart, it's probably buggy or fundamentally broken. |
| 23:04.20 | herlo | service is just an alias to /etc/init.d usually. |
| 23:05.04 | mgeary | definitely not latest |
| 23:05.47 | herlo | well, 3.2 kernel implies pretty new |
| 23:06.08 | herlo | I am running a bit newer |
| 23:06.09 | herlo | Linux x220.egavas.org 3.14.19-100.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Sep 17 22:05:21 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 23:06.15 | herlo | fedora 20 |
| 23:06.20 | mgeary | 12.04 |
| 23:08.22 | herlo | latest stable? |
| 23:09.12 | ninnypants | 14.04 |
| 23:09.31 | herlo | ninnypants: oh, right. every 2 years. |
| 23:09.46 | ninnypants | 14.10 |
| 23:10.15 | ninnypants | but 14.04 is the LTS |
| 23:12.03 | herlo | right |
| 23:12.08 | herlo | ninnypants: that's what I was after. |
| 23:12.25 | fungus | mgeary, herlo, on Ubuntu service will work with upstart or init.d as necessary. |
| 23:12.50 | herlo | fungus: except it doesn't in cron. |
| 23:12.59 | herlo | fungus: according to mgeary, anyway. |
| 23:13.16 | fungus | mgeary, what is the error you get in cron when using "service mysql restart" |
| 23:13.34 | mgeary | fungus: 2 lines: |
| 23:13.36 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.41 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.14 | herlo | it's like the env vars are not loading. |
| 23:14.15 | fungus | service is located in /usr/sbin |
| 23:14.47 | herlo | oops! |
| 23:14.49 | mgeary | thatâs what i have, fungus, in cron |
| 23:14.53 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.07 | mgeary | not sure why it is calling /usr/bin/... |
| 23:15.39 | fungus | mgeary, where did you place that cron job? /etc/crontab? user crontab? |
| 23:16.42 | fungus | oh. /usr/bin/service is a symlink to /usr/sbin/service. doesn't matter which path then. |
| 23:17.03 | herlo | fungus: root user's cron |
| 23:17.10 | herlo | I asked all of these questions already. :) |
| 23:17.16 | fungus | heh |
| 23:17.22 | herlo | but scrolling is lame. |
| 23:18.07 | fungus | mgeary, was mysql installed from the Ubuntu package, or was it installed differently? |
| 23:18.17 | mgeary | yeah from apt-get |
| 23:21.14 | fungus | Ahh, IC. It's not finding the /sbin/start or /sbin/stop (which service calls to perform the actual duties) |
| 23:21.37 | fungus | Set your PATH in the crontab to include /sbin along with the rest of what you'll need |
| 23:22.19 | herlo | fungus: ahh, wondered about that... |
| 23:22.26 | mgeary | ok |
| 23:22.27 | mgeary | trying that |
| 23:22.28 | mgeary | thanks |
| 23:23.45 | fungus | mgeary, FYI, cron issues are frequently related to a bad/incomplete PATH environment variable. |
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| 23:45.36 | mgeary | fungus: that did the trick. Thanks! |