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| 19:33.47 | influx | Oi. Are any business owners here? |
| 19:34.02 | T4rku5 | aye |
| 19:34.21 | influx | Rad. What does your business do? |
| 19:34.38 | T4rku5 | Information Security Consulting |
| 19:35.01 | T4rku5 | www.allianceinfosec.com |
| 19:35.22 | influx | Do you have an explicit organizational structure, handled by multiiple people? |
| 19:35.45 | T4rku5 | no |
| 19:35.57 | T4rku5 | why? |
| 19:37.23 | influx | I've started a business in retail t-shirt sales (similar in spirit to threadless or woot in quality of designs), and am thinking about how to organize the business once I start hiring. |
| 19:37.58 | influx | Right now I can handle most of it, with accounting and legal being... not in-house. |
| 19:38.07 | T4rku5 | well, you understand how large companies are setup, right? |
| 19:38.28 | influx | Not quite. |
| 19:39.15 | influx | I suppose I could think about it in terms of responsibilities |
| 19:39.21 | T4rku5 | owner(s), partner(s), accountant(s), sales, marketing, etc |
| 19:39.29 | T4rku5 | you need to make money |
| 19:39.35 | T4rku5 | that's why you create a business |
| 19:39.39 | T4rku5 | to make money doing what you enjoy |
| 19:39.45 | T4rku5 | providing a product or service |
| 19:40.11 | T4rku5 | if you're able to do it, and you have good ratio of need vs. supply, then you're doing fine |
| 19:40.11 | influx | Aye. |
| 19:40.20 | T4rku5 | when you have greater need than you are able to fulfill, you need help |
| 19:40.34 | T4rku5 | to facilitate bringing more of that product/service to the market |
| 19:40.50 | T4rku5 | what kind of help depends on what is preventing you from meeting the need |
| 19:41.13 | T4rku5 | maybe you are making so many deals and meeting people, you need someone to do the manual work |
| 19:41.45 | T4rku5 | maybe you think you're making money, but you can't find it all, you are spending without boundaries, and you need an accountant (usually a consultant in the beginning) |
| 19:42.18 | T4rku5 | maybe you are doing just fine, but your personal life is going down the drain (shopping, errands, bills, etc) and you could use an assistant (not likely) |
| 19:42.25 | T4rku5 | OR |
| 19:42.48 | T4rku5 | maybe you've developed a process that reduces overhead, increases output, and there is a market for your product. Get a salesman |
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| 19:43.49 | T4rku5 | develop a long-term plan, a short-term plan, far-range goals, near-range goals, and then what you're going to do for the next quarter |
| 19:44.09 | T4rku5 | focus on the now, keep an eye on the future, but don't get too quick to try and grow and hire people |
| 19:45.07 | influx | For sure. My guess is I won't be ready to hire until maybe a year or more from now, assuming the business makes a profit. |
| 19:45.55 | influx | Of course, thingsn can happen that change that. |
| 19:45.57 | influx | things |
| 19:49.08 | T4rku5 | yep |
| 19:49.35 | T4rku5 | as my accountant says (in reference to taxes), the government hopes you make a lot of money. And I do too. I hope you make an awful lot of money. |
| 19:49.53 | influx | So do I! |
| 19:50.03 | T4rku5 | :) |
| 19:50.17 | influx | Alright. Back to work. Thanks again! |
| 19:50.30 | T4rku5 | anytime |
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