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| 14:50.27 | josephscott | carmony: what is the websocket project? https://twitter.com/JustinCarmony/status/496125958844190720 |
| 14:51.35 | josephscott | depending on the need Server Sent Events ( SSE, aka EventSource ) can be an easier option - http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1230000000545/ch16.html |
| 14:52.37 | carmony | josephscott: little internal project :) |
| 14:53.14 | josephscott | I've found recently that some devs had never even heard of Server Sent Events, and they fill a nice spot between XHR polling and full on Web Sockets |
| 14:56.34 | josephscott | so I'm helping spread the word :-) |
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| 15:46.14 | josephscott | http://www.sitepoint.com/legacy-code-cancer/ |
| 15:46.26 | josephscott | "there is absolutely nothing stopping you from doing full rewrites in under a month, regardless of the appâs size and/or popularity" |
| 15:46.35 | carmony | josephscott: I hadn't heard of SSEs before either |
| 15:46.42 | carmony | whats the browser support for it? |
| 15:46.52 | josephscott | the author claims to have worked on large rewrite projects, but statements like that make it hard to take him seriously |
| 15:47.08 | josephscott | carmony: http://caniuse.com/#search=eventsource |
| 15:47.27 | josephscott | support is surprisingly good |
| 15:48.24 | josephscott | there are some JS libs to deal with the ones that don't |
| 15:49.00 | josephscott | IE being the main one there |
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| 16:44.37 | tierra | josephscott: see, at least I'm not on that completely opposite and completely impractical side of the fence, heh |
| 16:46.00 | josephscott | tierra: I resisted the urge to tell him I'd pay for a rewrite of WordPress done in one month that was compatible with the existing WordPress :-) |
| 16:46.24 | tierra | WP is like "we never break BC", and this guy is like "never even attempt to keep BC"... I'm totally right in the middle with "have a sensible BC policy with clear and defined rules" |
| 16:46.49 | tierra | na, see, that argument wouldn't work with him anyway... he's saying don't do compat, period |
| 16:47.25 | tierra | he's saying leave everyone in the dust, forced to manually upgrade with an entirely new site |
| 16:47.48 | josephscott | not sure how it is a rewrite if there is no backward compatibility |
| 16:47.57 | josephscott | instead it is just a different beast |
| 16:47.59 | tierra | it's more like just forking |
| 16:48.43 | tierra | but yeah, this guy obviously doesn't have a clue what he's talking about |
| 16:50.24 | tierra | it's like claiming that USB could be even more successful if it had dropped BC with USB 1.0/2.0/3.0 as it comes out with new versions, except it would really just end up costing everyone in the world a ridiculous amount of money and resources for entirely new hardware |
| 16:50.47 | tierra | for very little gain |
| 17:04.22 | tierra | "but if you follow best practices, respect separation of concerns, encapsulate your services and APIfy your application so you can write front ends completely separate from back ends, there is absolutely nothing stopping you from doing full rewrites in under a month, regardless of the appâs size and/or popularity" |
| 17:04.36 | tierra | haha, so yeah... that's like, basically never |
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| 17:11.45 | carmony | I hope I never buy a product where that guy is a dev on the project :P |
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| 17:27.46 | josephscott | just throw away everything you have that is older than 18 months and it should simulate the experience pretty well |
| 17:31.28 | ninnypants1 | I'm sure he buys a new phone and only uses apps that are built specifically for that phone's os every time one comes out too |
| 17:40.51 | tierra | haha |
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