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| 16:33.32 | mindjuju | DexterTheDragon: you around? |
| 16:33.43 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: yea |
| 16:33.51 | mindjuju | guess what i got in the mail today |
| 16:34.18 | DexterTheDragon | bills? |
| 16:34.24 | mindjuju | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/65737/openwestWidget.jpg |
| 16:34.27 | herlo | a picture of DexterTheDragon's grandma riding an elephant bareback while shooting a bazooka? |
| 16:35.39 | mindjuju | you like? |
| 16:35.39 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: cool |
| 16:36.11 | herlo | mindjuju: just one? |
| 16:36.20 | mindjuju | well, 1000 |
| 16:36.26 | herlo | wewt! |
| 16:37.15 | mindjuju | all paying attendees, 4 RGB LED, 2 programmable buttons, USB interface |
| 16:37.39 | mindjuju | programmable in python |
| 16:37.52 | herlo | so wait, what about us lowly speakers? |
| 16:38.04 | mindjuju | course, you get one too |
| 16:38.10 | mindjuju | speakers, that is |
| 16:38.19 | mindjuju | and the best part? |
| 16:38.25 | mindjuju | you get to solder it your own dang self |
| 16:38.29 | herlo | lol |
| 16:38.38 | herlo | soldering is fun |
| 16:38.46 | herlo | taught the 14yo this past year |
| 16:38.55 | mindjuju | the Transistor will be there to help people to learn and get their board working |
| 16:39.01 | mindjuju | 10 solder stations |
| 16:39.28 | mindjuju | ouch, i've got to run for a bit, but i'll be back in a while |
| 16:42.43 | herlo | ttfn |
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| 17:34.37 | mgeary | hey jsmith |
| 17:34.41 | mgeary | i'm about to get on a longer call |
| 17:34.45 | mgeary | going to do my tcpdump |
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| 19:07.05 | jsmith | mgeary: Cool |
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| 19:38.31 | mgeary | jsmith: so, the call ended up rolling over to a GoToMeeting call, so i cancelled my tcpdump. Interestingly, i then did end up hitting the exact same issue, where after 30 minutes i had to exit the audio and re-join because no one could understand me |
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| 19:49.13 | kim27 | mindjuju what chip do you get to program? |
| 19:50.48 | kim27 | mgeary, I have some fault usb dongles before that cause me to get into a bad state |
| 19:51.06 | kim27 | I usually have to reinsert the usb dongle to get my audio to work right again |
| 19:51.35 | mgeary | kim27: but it seems unlikely to be a hardware issue, if it's going bad after exactly 30 minutes (and every multiple of 30 minutes) |
| 19:52.18 | kim27 | I guess my question was did you end up using the "non" voip interface to join the GoToMeeting? |
| 19:52.20 | mgeary | it feels to me like some sort of router rule is coming in to play, because this issue does not occur when i do these VOIP/SIP calls from within a different network |
| 19:52.40 | mgeary | no, i used voip, but had to exit and re-join every 30 minutes |
| 19:53.50 | kim27 | makes sense |
| 19:54.30 | mgeary | i've tried to blame the building, but they keep coming back and saying it's not their fault. I don't believe them, but cannot prove it |
| 19:55.57 | kim27 | ... perhaps doing your calls through a VPN might help sort things out ... if the latency doesn't kill you |
| 19:56.46 | mgeary | interesting thought. I do have a VPN running at my home, which is on Google Fiber |
| 19:56.57 | mgeary | but i do wonder what latency would be like |
| 19:57.18 | mgeary | i don't know how to run *just* my VOIP through a VPN. Anyone here know? |
| 19:59.37 | jsmith | mgeary: Just set a static route that forces traffic to your proxy/PBX to go through the VPN |
| 20:00.11 | mgeary | my Telephone.app has an "Outbound Proxy" option that i'm not currently using |
| 20:00.20 | mgeary | is that promising? |
| 20:00.37 | mgeary | it also has a STUN Server setting |
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| 20:02.02 | jsmith | Well, your app connects to a PBX or SIP proxy |
| 20:02.15 | jsmith | That's where it authenticates to, sends it audio to, etc. |
| 20:03.25 | jsmith | Assuming that your proxy is 7.6.5.4 and the default gw for your VPN connection is 2.3.4.5, just add a static route that forces traffic destined for 7.6.5.4 to route via 2.3.4.5 |
| 20:04.36 | mgeary | but this proxy isn't just a VPN server in that scenario, right? Sounds like it might be simpler to set up an actual proxy rather than use VPN... |
| 20:04.48 | mgeary | not that i have much experience with that. I've set up Squid a couple of times, is all |
| 20:05.53 | romanovic | you can set up an ssh tunnel and use it as a socks proxy |
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| 20:09.58 | romanovic | unless soft phones can't easily use them |
| 20:10.07 | mgeary | no idea |
| 20:10.15 | mgeary | me neither |
| 20:12.08 | clintberry | mgeary: |
| 20:12.11 | clintberry | I do voip |
| 20:12.17 | clintberry | we see that all the time. |
| 20:12.42 | clintberry | almost always a firewall issue. |
| 20:13.07 | clintberry | We send ping packets every minute or so to keep the connection alive, but if they don't get through, the firewall will eventually close the connection completely |
| 20:14.22 | clintberry | different models close it at different times, but I see the 30 minute disconnect all the time |
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| 20:25.30 | mgeary | clintberry: what can i do as a user? |
| 20:25.40 | mgeary | clintberry: or what specifically can i tell my up-stream providers? |
| 20:26.31 | clintberry | try adding firewall exceptions. |
| 20:26.47 | clintberry | udp 5060 |
| 20:26.49 | clintberry | usually |
| 20:27.12 | mgeary | is there a way i can figure out in *whose* firewall it is? |
| 20:27.22 | mgeary | the building people think it's in our office, but i do not believe that |
| 20:27.45 | clintberry | oh man, that gets difficult. We usually throw shiz at the wall first and see if anything sticks |
| 20:27.48 | clintberry | it is faster |
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| 21:55.03 | unum | traceroute or hping |
| 21:55.09 | unum | I'm late to this conversation |
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