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| 16:57.04 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 16:57.04 | infobot | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays tierra in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
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| 17:08.21 | mgeary | that was lame, infobot. Let's try again |
| 17:08.22 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 17:08.23 | infobot | stamps fungus on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
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| 17:18.22 | mgeary | hey, why would ssh on a FQDN resolve back to a different IP address than a local "dig" |
| 17:18.36 | mgeary | does ssh have it's own DNS cache of some sort? |
| 17:20.07 | mgeary | ping is doing the same thing. Resolving to an older IP |
| 17:20.56 | Bikerdan | Is there possibly an entry in the hosts file? |
| 17:21.36 | Bikerdan | And when you say local "dig". What are you doing exaclty? |
| 17:22.33 | herlo | Bikerdan: probably dig hostname.com, for example |
| 17:22.53 | herlo | mgeary: consider nsswitch.conf |
| 17:22.56 | Bikerdan | I would assume that it's using the same hosts file, right? |
| 17:23.03 | herlo | Bikerdan: it's more than just that |
| 17:23.22 | herlo | nsswitch is the file that get_hostname calls to do lookups for hosts |
| 17:23.32 | herlo | usually it's first files (/etc/hosts/) and then dns |
| 17:23.37 | herlo | dig ignores this |
| 17:24.00 | Bikerdan | ok... So are you saying it could be an entry in the hosts file? |
| 17:24.10 | herlo | dig just uses /etc/resolv.conf (or your stub resolver) directly, unless you specify a particular dns server to use. |
| 17:24.19 | herlo | Bikerdan: possibly |
| 17:24.32 | herlo | Bikerdan: it could also be an ldap lookup that happens before dns lookup |
| 17:25.15 | mgeary | already checked hosts file |
| 17:25.28 | mgeary | not doing any sort of local dns |
| 17:25.57 | mgeary | herlo: nsswitch.conf is not on my local machine |
| 17:26.12 | mgeary | at least, not that "locate" can find, and not in /etc/ |
| 17:27.22 | Bikerdan | mgeary: Do you have something to monitor your network traffic to see if it's getting the old IP remotely? |
| 17:28.38 | herlo | mgeary: mac? |
| 17:29.10 | herlo | mgeary: I'm specifically talking about a linux system, but every os does it similarly. |
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| 17:44.22 | mgeary | herlo: yes, mac |
| 18:04.43 | ponderability | mgeary: You might be bumping into mDNSResponder, which processes (and caches) most of your userland DNS queries. The following will either return what's in cache or go fetch it and populate the cache: dscacheutil -q host -a <fqdn> (where fqdn is the fqdn you want to look up and everything else is copied verbatim). |
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| 18:31.56 | stevecoug | Let's say that I run a free website that relies on ad revenue. There have been a rash of rogue ads lately that redirect people to other sites (generally the app store for their device). Is there a way to stop those redirects from happening? I've been trying to track down the problem advertisers for a while now, but they seem to be infecting pretty much every ad network. |
| 18:52.24 | mindjuju | stevecoug: can you iframe the malicious banner? i think that should null out the parent redirect |
| 18:52.44 | mindjuju | expecially if it was pulling from a non-domain source |
| 18:53.14 | mindjuju | like parent was example.com and iframe was pulling from example2.com i can't recall why off hand, but i think there is a rule in browsers that says cross domain iframe no access to parent |
| 18:55.43 | xuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.42 | xuu | seems to be more info here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/369498/how-to-prevent-iframe-from-redirecting-top-level-window?lq=1 |
| 18:57.47 | mindjuju | yeah, see when people start doing jerk stuff like that, it makes me want to make something that clicks on their stuff and runs out their budget |
| 18:57.53 | mindjuju | i try not to think about jerks :( |
| 18:59.47 | xuu | the two schools of thought to solve the issue seems to be 1: sandboxing the iframe (which will break add clicks) and 2: adding a page unload script to ensure thats what they want |
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| 19:13.52 | mindjuju | it's too bad you can't load it into a service that filters / rewrites the bad and leaves the others alone as good |
| 19:14.00 | mindjuju | on the other hand, that seems like a lot of overhead |
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| 19:57.51 | stevecoug | xuu: the problem is that many of the ad services TOS prohibit using an iframe around the ad |
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| 21:21.59 | SunSparc | stevecoug: What do you do when YOUR TOS conflicts with THEIR TOS? :) I say, just implement an iframe, nail the culprits, and then either ditch the iframe or keep it until questioned. |
| 21:22.46 | stevecoug | I've got a system in place to make it so that I can usually tell where a bad ad is coming from, but the redirects kill that |
| 21:23.35 | stevecoug | I'd be more inclined to buck the system, but Google isn't notorious for their personal customer service. If they decide I've violated their AdSense TOS, I have to go find a real job. |
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| 21:24.07 | SunSparc | Resistance is futile. ;) |
| 21:24.12 | josephscott | $lart real jobs |
| 21:24.12 | tobcri | raises middle finger to real jobs. |
| 21:25.06 | SunSparc | stevecoug: It is interesting how quick Google is to respond to things that hurt them, but if it hurts you, good luck getting in touch with a human. |
| 21:26.57 | SunSparc | ~job |
| 21:26.57 | infobot | Then Cladhaire arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped. And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the Blizzard gave, and the Blizzard hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Slouken. -- Cide 1: 20-21 |
| 21:28.39 | stevecoug | SunSparc: you're right, but they can get away with it, I guess |
| 21:28.55 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 21:29.09 | SunSparc | Unless you have some connections. |
| 21:29.30 | SunSparc | Maybe post on their dev forums. |
| 21:36.28 | tierra | so I've been giving BT Sync a fair and balanced run by using it for months on end now... I think maybe 8-10 months in fact |
| 21:36.54 | tierra | my opinion of it has not held up to first impressions :( |
| 21:37.42 | tierra | so sick of cleaning up my .SyncArchive folder manually because it simply can't handle conflict resolution in any sane way with more than two clients |
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| 21:38.16 | tierra | I've even seen it conflict on one client with files I barely just added from one client, and never touched on either of the other two |
| 21:38.35 | tierra | so whatever it's using to detect conflicts sucks too |
| 21:40.33 | tierra | I'm right back at the drawing board looking for new solutions, and about the only thing left on there right now is OwnCloud, but I'm really not too keen on the idea of setting up a full PHP app on a full webserver just to power it |
| 21:43.56 | romanovic | tierra: i really wish bt labs would open source btsync. many eyeballs on that problem would solve it quickly |
| 21:44.57 | romanovic | the FSF has it on their list of high priority projects. maybe someone's already started something http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/priority-projects/highpriorityprojects |
| 21:45.47 | romanovic | i guess there is this http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:SyncReplacement |
| 21:47.07 | tierra | I recently spotted this new project in the works: https://github.com/jewel/clearskies/ |
| 21:47.38 | tierra | ah, it's even mentioned in that LibrePlanet list |
| 21:49.53 | romanovic | cool. makes me happy people are at least starting to work on it. i avoid dropbox as widely as possible - when people ask me to drop things in their dropbox, I throw it in a btsync folder instead and send them a key |
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