| 00:11.27 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 00:18.15 | herlo | mindjuju: I could be for about 30 seconds. |
| 00:18.51 | mindjuju | hey herlo, i've got a weird question |
| 00:19.02 | mindjuju | not that that is unusal, but here goes |
| 00:19.27 | herlo | k |
| 00:19.28 | mindjuju | my ubuntu install b0rk3d so i punted and installed fedora, so it installed just fine and dandy, but i've got one problem |
| 00:19.34 | mindjuju | so, here is the prob |
| 00:20.06 | mindjuju | my desk has a custom made shelf where my monitors are bolted upside down, so that i get the desktop space not sacrificed to themonitor stands |
| 00:20.27 | mindjuju | but in fedora 20, it seems you can only rotate 90 degrees to portrait, and that's it |
| 00:20.39 | mindjuju | i'm seeing that rawhide gives you flip upsidedown |
| 00:20.51 | mindjuju | so that's my way to fix at this time, downloading rawhide now |
| 00:21.15 | herlo | mindjuju: GNOME Shell? |
| 00:21.16 | mindjuju | i aquainted myself with the faq, i know this isn't a production release |
| 00:21.30 | mindjuju | gnome, yup |
| 00:21.35 | herlo | k |
| 00:22.14 | mindjuju | well, i guess that's just it |
| 00:22.21 | mindjuju | go rawhide? |
| 00:22.36 | herlo | mindjuju: so you installed rawhide for everything or just the components you need? |
| 00:22.46 | herlo | you can enable the rawhide repo for only certain things. |
| 00:22.50 | mindjuju | everything |
| 00:22.55 | herlo | do you know the names of the packages? |
| 00:24.03 | mindjuju | well, i just did yum install upgrade-release-rawhide |
| 00:24.06 | mindjuju | something like that |
| 00:24.07 | herlo | if you do, you can just install F20, install the fedora-release-rawhide package and yum install/update those packages |
| 00:24.18 | herlo | mindjuju: that's not all of rawhide. |
| 00:24.28 | herlo | mindjuju: unless you did 'yum update' |
| 00:24.39 | herlo | mindjuju: and you'd have to have the rawhide repo enabled, which it isn't by default. |
| 00:24.55 | mindjuju | oh gotcha, in that case i'm not sure what i did |
| 00:25.04 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm talking about the GNOME packages that allow you to flip over the screen anyway. |
| 00:25.04 | mindjuju | but this is a fresh install of fedora, so punting isn't hard |
| 00:25.31 | herlo | the fedora-release-rawhide package gives you the repo that allows you to install the packages that enable the features you want. |
| 00:25.38 | herlo | at lesat that is what it sounds like to me... |
| 00:25.44 | mindjuju | i'll have to find out what those packages are and then go from there |
| 00:25.45 | herlo | least |
| 00:25.57 | herlo | mindjuju: well, how did you get it to work? |
| 00:26.09 | herlo | you installed hte fedora-release-rawhide package and then what did you do? |
| 00:26.11 | herlo | history may help |
| 00:26.30 | mindjuju | i didn't, i'm still reading everything upsdie down and it looks like it's still doing the rawhide upgrade |
| 00:26.36 | mindjuju | though it seems to be stuck at 55% |
| 00:26.36 | herlo | oh |
| 00:26.46 | herlo | did you do 'yum update --enablerepo=rawhide'? |
| 00:26.52 | mindjuju | nope |
| 00:26.54 | herlo | or something similar? |
| 00:26.59 | mindjuju | the instructions didn'tsay to do that |
| 00:27.01 | herlo | well, then what is it doing? |
| 00:27.13 | herlo | what command made yum do the 'rawhide upgrade'? |
| 00:27.23 | herlo | do you just mean yum install fedora-release-rawhide? |
| 00:28.23 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 00:28.26 | mindjuju | but this says to |
| 00:28.36 | mindjuju | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum |
| 00:29.02 | herlo | mindjuju: ugh |
| 00:29.20 | mindjuju | i tihnk i'm going to punt and start over |
| 00:29.27 | herlo | so you are trying to solve the problem you have by upgrading everything? |
| 00:29.56 | mindjuju | yeah, wth i've always played it safe, might be nince to see an OS in beta |
| 00:30.59 | herlo | lol |
| 00:31.04 | herlo | mindjuju: that should work for the most part |
| 00:31.10 | mindjuju | on the other hand, i was planning on unbolting the screens and going standing desktop |
| 00:31.18 | mindjuju | so this might be the straw + camel |
| 00:31.27 | herlo | mindjuju: but you could just have installed the fedora.next branch rather than rawhide. Rawhide is stuff that is in heavy development |
| 00:31.48 | mindjuju | yeah, i saw it doesn't release till october |
| 00:32.00 | mindjuju | and with sayings like, be sure to patch nightly! |
| 00:32.06 | mindjuju | i thought it'd be a fun learn |
| 00:32.51 | herlo | heh |
| 00:32.54 | mindjuju | maybe this summer i'll do that linux os you were telling me about where you build everything piece by piece |
| 00:33.02 | mindjuju | i've been wanting to get hands dirty a little |
| 00:33.23 | herlo | so you can install one between 20 and rawhide |
| 00:33.26 | herlo | that's what I mean |
| 00:33.46 | herlo | but learning via rawhide ain't a bad way to go. Just be prepared to hack and file bugs. :) |
| 00:33.59 | herlo | oh, and google 'this week in rawhide' by Kevin Fenzi |
| 00:34.08 | mindjuju | well, i'm going to let you go so Jenn don't get mad at me |
| 00:34.16 | herlo | lol |
| 00:34.17 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.25 | herlo | I'm actually supposed to be up there right now... |
| 00:34.28 | herlo | ttfn |
| 00:34.40 | mindjuju | cya, i got to split home too or tiff will be mad |
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| 14:16.39 | josephscott | ninnypants: my wife reminded me that she already had plans for tomorrow, so I won't be able to make it, glad I didn't commit to speaking :-( |
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| 17:17.20 | josephscott | $lart billing systems |
| 17:17.20 | tobcri | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, billing systems!" and lops off billing systems's head. |
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| 17:51.07 | hhatfield | $save making money |
| 17:51.14 | hhatfield | ~save making money |
| 17:51.14 | infobot | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves making money from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 17:51.26 | hhatfield | $8ball is it? |
| 17:51.26 | tobcri | hhatfield: As I see it, yes. |
| 17:51.28 | jsmith | ~lart josephscott (for hating billing systems) |
| 17:51.28 | infobot | wallops josephscott (for hating billing systems) with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
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| 20:14.54 | ninnypants | update your firmware and change default passwords or people will scream at your children :) http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/gift-guide/man-hacks-monitor-screams-baby-girl-n91546 |
| 20:25.03 | SunSparc | True that. We had crosstalk with our neighbors on our monitors along time ago when we were using an RF pair of monitors. |
| 20:25.26 | SunSparc | Made us rethink using RF monitors. |
| 20:26.40 | ninnypants | yeah for a lot of things we just started using facetime or skype between our ipads |
| 20:27.43 | SunSparc | Yep, that works. We just got a Foscam camera and that is pretty handy. Though the same security measures apply. |
| 20:29.21 | ninnypants | SunSparc: might want to double check since it was Foscam that is mentioned in the article ;) |
| 20:30.14 | SunSparc | Oh yeah? I know Foscam is always emailing me with firmware updates. |
| 20:31.25 | SunSparc | Good article to pass on to other people I know. I am security minded as part of my job, but I know others are not. Thanks for the link ninnypants. |
| 20:33.27 | ninnypants | yeah the one in the article was 2 years old |
| 20:36.04 | SunSparc | That'll do it. |
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