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16:16.29josephscottdebug_backtrace aka, the bug tracking sledge hammer :-|
16:22.26josephscott$8ball did this channel go dark?
16:22.27tobcrijosephscott: Yes.
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16:25.37clintberrythis channel went completely dark. maybe PHP is dying.
16:25.50josephscotthaha
16:26.09clintberry:-)
16:26.19josephscottPHP has been dying longer than some other languages/frameworks have been around :-)
16:26.33josephscottan by dying I mean increasing in deployment and usage ;-)
16:26.50josephscotts/an/and/
16:28.38clintberryha ha, true.
16:29.47clintberryI don't see a ton of software startups using it though. Am I wrong?
16:32.25josephscottgood question, guess that would depend on how you measure things
16:33.28clintberryTrue. Obviously I don't monitor every single software startup. But out of the 80 in the last Y combinator batch, 1 used PHP
16:33.56hhatfield$save PHP
16:34.00clintberryand not all 80 were software based
16:34.04hhatfield~save PHP
16:34.04infobotACTION runs into a burning building and saves PHP from certain death. Is that enough?
16:34.06clintberryso that isn't a good number to use
16:34.56josephscottclintberry: yeah, that is definitely one good data point
16:35.13josephscottwhat did the lang distribution look like across that batch?
16:35.31josephscottthough I don't know I'd ever make a lang choice based on the YComb usage :-)
16:35.58clintberryI don't have exact numbers, but the majority of web software companies used python or ruby
16:36.26clintberryobviously the things that needed extreme real time like day-trading software for bitcoin used C/C++
16:36.41clintberryand things like new databases used C or erlang
16:38.20josephscottpretty sure C has been dying longer than most of us have been alive :-)
16:40.26herlolol
16:41.46josephscott"The C Programming Language" was published when I was 5
16:43.04tierrahttp://www.ohloh.net/languages/compare?commit=Update&l0=-1&l1=-1&l2=-1&l3=php&l4=-1&measure=contributors
16:43.18tierraseems about as strong as it's ever been
16:51.26clintberryC isn't going anywhere. For real time stuff nothing compares.
16:51.49clintberryand it can run on embedded systems.
16:52.27herloassembly wins!
17:05.18josephscott"You cannot use an e-mail address or card number that belongs to an existing PayPal account."
17:05.29josephscottthat seems like a foolish rule
17:07.28josephscotteventbrite needs to add support for Stripe :-)
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19:17.23carmonyso utahcon is getting replies from Rasmus on Twitter :P
19:19.42herloRasmus B Dragon?
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20:09.41josephscottcarmony: what is the plan for UPHPU  this week?
20:09.56carmonylet me send out the email, we have a presentation lined up :)
20:11.33josephscottcool, I'm hoping to make it
20:16.51carmonyjosephscott: http://uphpu.org/2014/04/14/april-2014-meeting-abstraction-object-interfaces-traits-namespaces-and-dependency-injection-cool-stuff-in-php/
20:18.44josephscottHumanCell: will have something to include in his email list now :-)
20:21.31tierrathat's a mouthful
20:24.57carmonyIt is
20:25.06carmonyand its awesome :)
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20:37.48HumanCellHoly cow!  And I'm writing it up right now!
20:37.49HumanCell:-)
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21:38.28xuuwill there be an April meeting?
21:40.58fungushttp://uphpu.org/2014/04/14/april-2014-meeting-abstraction-object-interfaces-traits-namespaces-and-dependency-injection-cool-stuff-in-php/
21:42.11*** topic/#UPHPU by fungus -> April 2014 Meeting: Mark Niebergall - Abstraction, Object Interfaces, Traits, Namespaces, and Dependency Injection | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org
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23:12.00DexterTheDragonmindjuju: ping

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