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00:00.06fungusbecause a load balancer may present different behavior based on the Host: header in the HTTP conversation.
00:01.37fungusget a packet capture on the client and the server during the outage.  
00:02.39skinnerfungus: That is something we were just discussing here. We need to determine the connection behavior of those using the load balancer, vs those who aren't.
00:02.50skinnerI'll take a look at the packets as well as you've suggested
00:03.03skinnert-18 minutes until downtime...lol
00:03.12SunSparcskinner: good luck, I am out
00:03.55fungusThe basic troubleshooting idea is to trace the path that it should follow until you find the point of deviation.
00:06.08skinnerI've started now, so I can compare to how it looks when we go down..lol
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00:37.55skinnerfungus: Well happy news. We had no downtime this time around. Dunno what changed. We didn't change anything. It just...didn't happen. All domains resolved just fine and have been since 4:20-4:25
00:41.47skinnerI'm out for the day. Thanks fungus Sunsparc.
00:41.49skinnerfungus++
00:41.54skinnerSunsparc++
00:42.06skinnerjosephscott++
00:42.13skinner~skinner skinner
00:42.13infobotACTION buries skinner in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH!
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03:20.01influxhowdy
03:43.43josephscott$rlart
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16:00.44*** topic/#UPHPU is January 2014 Meeting: Elizabeth Naramore - GitHub: More Than Just Code (http://uphpu.org/2014/01/12/happy-10th-anniversary-januarys-meeting/) | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org
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19:52.40PoeticIntensityHello, all...  It's been awhile...
19:52.52PoeticIntensityOne simple question... :)
19:53.01PoeticIntensityCakePHP or Symfony2 ?
19:53.11herlono
19:53.28herlouse pyramid. :)
19:53.55tierraLaravel!
19:54.03tierraheh
19:54.09PoeticIntensity(Gonna start a new project here in a bit, and I'm investigating frameworks..  Been using CakePHP for 2 years, but from the looks of it, Symfony has gained significant traction...)
19:54.25PoeticIntensitynever heard of pyramid...
19:54.41PoeticIntensityHeard of Laravel, but not much...
19:54.54tierraI always thought Symfony had that traction before CakePHP did, but I do have a soft spot for CakePHP
19:55.12tierramy last couple projects have been CakePHP
19:55.19PoeticIntensitywell, yeah.. me too.
19:55.22herloPoeticIntensity: pyramid is a python framework. :)
19:55.45herloPoeticIntensity: why? Python is great!
19:55.46PoeticIntensitynaughty naughty... didn't you know this is a PHP forum?
19:55.50stirlingwcakephp but really... zend
19:55.51PoeticIntensity;-)
19:55.53herloPoeticIntensity: yep, I know.
19:56.35stirlingwzend is great with nginx
19:56.52PoeticIntensityhmmm.....  I'm guessing that since I've already got 2 years of cake dev under my belt, and there's no compelling reason to *not* use it, I should probably stick with what I know.
19:57.04PoeticIntensityall I've heard about zend is, that it's bloated and slow.
19:58.17stirlingwIf you use the whole framework yea.  But you can just take bits and pieces that you need.
19:58.38PoeticIntensitythe project I'm building will be a service that streams subscription-based videos.
19:58.52stirlingwIf cake suites your needs then no reason to branch out.  Unless you want a resume builder project. IMO
19:59.16PoeticIntensityyeah....  and nah...  no need of resume stuff right now.
19:59.53PoeticIntensityoh, and hey, mindjuju ...  everything all right with the recording?  I never heard back from ya, so I'm assuming all is well. :)
20:00.54PoeticIntensityanywho...  It's good to see ya'll again.
20:03.42stirlingwherlo:  lol... not a zend fan I see
20:07.05carmonyjosephscott: you around?>
20:07.50carmonyI'm having some WordPress admin slowness issues
20:22.04herlostirlingw: heh
20:25.22josephscottcarmony: I am now
20:27.34ninnypantsjosephscott's UPHPU talk is finally up on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKUw6y_DzpA
20:28.09josephscottalways embarrassing to watch my own presentations
20:34.01tierraforgot I missed that meeting
20:35.59ninnypantsjosephscott: good info though I'm going to use a bunch of what you talked about to write tests for some legacy WP plugins
20:36.09josephscottnice
20:36.20josephscottglad it helped
20:43.39carmonybleh
20:43.50carmonysomehow our multisite database upgrade went awkward
20:45.14SunSparcPoeticIntensity: I enjoy Cake, because I learned it and am comfortable with it. I have dabbled with Zend and was not overly impressed. There is always the Cake offshoot called Lithium.
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20:46.00SunSparchttp://li3.me/
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21:14.44carmonyYou could checkout LARAVEL!!!!
21:14.51carmonySeems like its the hot thing right now
21:36.31tierraI really have wanted to do my next project on Laravel... I've mostly been impressed by what I've read about DB migrations, but really want to see if it lives up to the hype
21:36.41josephscott~get on the bandwagon now while it is hot
21:36.42infobotACTION fetches on the bandwagon now while it is hot
21:36.50tierrabecause no-one else does those decently
21:37.07SunSparcI have been wanting to try a project on Martini.
21:37.26funguss/project on//
21:37.44SunSparc:)
21:38.08SunSparcinfobot: serve me a martini please
21:38.09infobotACTION cooks up a 6 course meal, made from the very best ingredients and containing all the favorite foods of me a martini please, and then serves it to me a martini please on the best china & using the best crystal and silver
21:39.08josephscottI see why doing routes with a closure looks neat, I just can't imagine doing that for a site that has more than like 3 routes
21:40.46tierrayeah, just a terrible idea for any decent sized app
21:41.23tierramost of your debugging is going to be in one route or another
21:42.08tierraand you're not going to be able to tell which route your even on inside of a closure
21:42.42josephscottyep
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22:01.44ninnypantsI'm trying to write tests for an old WP plugin before trying to clean it up, but I'm not sure how to best test a function like this https://github.com/ninnypants/search-everything-wordpress-plugin/blob/master/views/options.php#L25
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22:03.30TuxToasterSunSparc: fail
22:03.47ninnypantsI'm using a test tool called WP_Mock(https://github.com/10up/wp_mock) that lets me make sure certain function calls happen and that they happen the correct number of times with the correct arguments but should I be testing the html output as well?
22:05.50josephscottif that is what the function needs to do, then yeah, test the html output I'd say
22:11.04ninnypantsok that makes sense just trying to decide how to do it because currently the WP functions are just mocked and _e() and selected() don't output anything
22:11.43ninnypantsI'll probably just trust the WP functions to work correctly and make sure they they're called with the correct parameters
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22:13.18SunSparcTuxToaster: :)
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