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20:40.44beandogbueno
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20:45.11eggyknapque bueno. Is pretty nasty.
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20:46.18SunSparcHeartsbane: Connection issues?
20:46.40HeartsbaneYa fixed now
20:46.45HeartsbaneI think
20:46.49SunSparc:)
20:46.55HeartsbaneI hope
20:46.56SunSparc~seen beandog
20:46.58infobotbeandog is currently on #uphpu (10m 22s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 6m 14s, last said: 'bueno'.
20:47.17josephscottfor the Git folks the room, favorite method for managing a central Git repo?
20:47.37SunSparcjosephscott: I have enjoyed Unfuddle for private stuff.
20:47.40josephscottping herlo for his $0.02 ^^
20:47.46beandog~pong SunSparc
20:47.46infobotSunSparc: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:47.56beandogjosephscott: I let the devs deal with it
20:48.05beandogsysadmin ftw
20:48.38beandogwas
20:48.39beandogI graduated.
20:48.49SunSparcThere is something better?
20:48.54beandogBOFH
20:49.25beandogAs a sysadmin, now I can actually make changes, vs just suggesting them as a programmer :D
20:49.36beandog"We should move to Percona" vs. "We're moving to Percona."
20:49.41SunSparcAh I see.
20:50.06josephscottSunSparc: I'm just looking for central git repo, not all the rest of "project management" stuff
20:50.17SunSparcThat is why I like being a sysadmin/dev.
20:50.28beandogSunSparc: I still code, but it's in bash now
20:50.35beandogbash.  the language of love.
20:50.43SunSparcjosephscott: You do not have to use the project management stuff.
20:50.50SunSparc~bash++
20:51.09SunSparcbash + python = :)
20:51.25beandogSunSparc: if I had time, I'd totally learn python (or ruby)
20:51.34beandogand by "had time" I mean, could do it on company time
20:51.41SunSparcjosephscott: I assume you are looking for private repos.
20:51.52josephscottright
20:52.14josephscottif it was for public stuff I'd probably just throw it up on github :-)
20:53.23SunSparcjosephscott: Yeah, though github has private options, but they are costly.
20:53.30SunSparcbeandog: http://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/python/
20:53.45SunSparcjosephscott: Is this for work? Tons of repos?
20:53.56beandogwat
20:53.58josephscottpersonal private repos
20:53.59beandogwhat is this magic.
20:54.45SunSparcbeandog: Great intro to many different languages.
20:54.58josephscottI've been looking at this method - http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-on-the-Server-Getting-Git-on-a-Server
20:55.05beandogSunSparc: so this is my big question ... do people use python for procedural programming in shell scripts?  Because I don't really need any funky stuff ... just ... do this, error that, stdout there, etc.
20:55.10josephscottwhich would work, but isn't as flexible as I would like
20:55.21SunSparcjosephscott: Unfuddle allows you to have unlimited repos on the free account, only limit is the disk space.
20:55.36SunSparcbeandog: Yes
20:55.45beandogOK
20:55.52beandogSunSparc: good filesystem functions?
20:56.05SunSparcbeandog: Oh yes. :)
20:56.16beandogSunSparc: what's an example where it would make sense to use python over bash?
20:56.24beandogactually multiple examples would be nice.
20:56.37SunSparcbeandog: I have really enjoyed learning python. And it plays so well with bash.
20:56.45josephscottguess I'll give Gitolite a spin, see how that goes
20:59.05SunSparcjosephscott: I assume that you know that git does not need a central repo.
21:00.23SunSparcbeandog: I have chosen python over bash in situations where I need a lot more control over a situation. Python brings a lot more options to the table. Although, in many ways, bash and python are fairly comparable.
21:00.37josephscottSunSparc: yep
21:01.03josephscottbut I like having one when I have multiple checkouts for dev/prod/etc.
21:01.27SunSparcPython has libraries that can be imported, bash has app that can be used. In one sense, any program that runs in bash is a bash library. In that case, python is just another bash libary.  :)
21:04.27SunSparcjosephscott: Yeah, there are many ways to use vcs's. Having a centrally accessible repo is nice when other locations need access.
21:06.18SunSparcbeandog: knowing both python and bash has been helpful for me to have more options available to me. In some cases bash seems more logical, in others python does.
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21:59.07skinnerjosephscott: I've tried Gitolite
21:59.12skinnerI left it for GitLab
21:59.46herlojosephscott: I never could get hte hang of unfuddle. What do you mean managing a central git repo?
22:00.07skinnerhttp://gitlab.org/
22:00.12beandogSunSparc: sorry, stepped in a mtg.  A lot more control?
22:00.16josephscottskinner: any particular reason?  just looking for more full featured thing?
22:00.42skinnerYeah, I liked the GUI part of it, and the API is moresolid
22:00.47skinner*more solid
22:00.55josephscottherlo: central repo for a few private projects, some basic user management (without having to create lots of system accounts ideally)
22:00.56skinnerSetup wasn't hard
22:01.00skinnerand feels like Github
22:01.02skinnerbut Private
22:01.29herlogitolite is nice
22:01.42herloskinner: gitlab is nice
22:01.48herloit's basically private github
22:02.05herlobut it was pretty buggy. There was another one, don't remember the name now though
22:02.17herlogitolite with cgit is what we use at LF. It has a git based user management scheme.
22:02.27herlowhich makes things nice
22:05.28skinnerIf memory serves me right, gitlab used to be based on gitolite, but the main guy behind gitolite wasn't moving as fast as the gitlab team wanted, so they moved on and wrote their own replacement.
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22:06.21SunSparcbeandog: I have rethought that statement and realized that I do not really have a good way to explain it right now. :)
22:06.40beandogokay that's cool
22:06.41herloskinner: sitaram moves quickly, but he doesn't believe in a lot of fluff.
22:06.47beandoganother mtg, bbls
22:07.01skinnerherlo: True true
22:07.24herlojosephscott: have you tried gitlab or gitolite?
22:07.39herloboth are relatively easy to setup now. gitlab has at least a ppa and an rpm for it these days.
22:07.44herlogitolite3 is slick
22:07.45josephscottnot yet, been reading docs
22:07.57josephscottgitolite looks like it might work well for what I'm after
22:08.09herlojosephscott: if you need help with cgit integration, let me know.
22:08.20herlojosephscott: the gitolite3 docs are very well done, too.
22:08.32herloyou can do things like wildcard repos too, which may be useful to you...
22:08.43josephscottherlo: these? http://gitolite.com/gitolite/install.html
22:09.42herlojosephscott: yes, but if you have a packaged version for your operating system, I recommend that over the git clone.
22:10.02herlojosephscott: is this for Linux or Mac or what?
22:10.12josephscotthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gitolite&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all
22:10.25josephscottubuntu package appears to be 2.x
22:10.57herloyeah
22:10.59herlo3 is better
22:11.04herloI wonder if there's a ppa for it
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23:10.25beandoghokay

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