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| 18:43.56 | josephscott | when did every company become "a startup"? |
| 18:45.30 | herlo | thursday |
| 18:45.45 | herlo | oh, sorry. It was LAST thursday. |
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| 19:08.55 | beandog | lol |
| 19:09.19 | beandog | ever since kickstarter + free money came around |
| 20:16.57 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:17.07 | TuxToaster | ~lart crowdfunding |
| 20:17.07 | infobot | beats crowdfunding senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 20:17.43 | TuxToaster | I noticed the other day there were like 3 different stories on KSL where each was doing something great* (if they meet their funding goal) |
| 20:18.12 | TuxToaster | one of them was a church is wanting $100k to refurbish their 100 year old organ |
| 20:19.53 | TuxToaster | my thought is a) usually stuff like that is handled by congregations, local fundraisers, etc. and b) 100k seems awfully high to just do some maintenance and repair to the thing |
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| 21:47.00 | SunSparc | ~crowdfund TuxToaster |
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| 22:01.18 | eggyknap | Depends on the organ. They're awfully big and complicated things, and few people know how to treat 'em. |
| 22:02.14 | T4rku5 | I want to chime in, as I'm an organist, but I fear (and encourage) all the organ jokes. |
| 22:02.56 | eggyknap | I wear special shoes to play my organ. </snork> |
| 22:03.24 | T4rku5 | I keep my special shoes in my church 'gig' bag |
| 22:03.30 | eggyknap | me too, in fact. |
| 22:03.32 | T4rku5 | I call them my dance shoes |
| 22:06.34 | T4rku5 | some don't do so well, some do ok, but oh, when eggyknap gets his hands on his organ, you'll swear you can hear the angels sing |
| 22:06.43 | eggyknap | ouch. |
| 22:06.49 | T4rku5 | lol |
| 22:07.40 | T4rku5 | I started playing when I was a priest, and every. stinking. week. there was one guy who would say, "did you see Sean playing with his organ" when we sat down third hour |
| 22:07.55 | T4rku5 | it was so funny |
| 22:07.58 | T4rku5 | so |
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| 23:38.08 | TuxToaster | ~kickstart SunSparc |
| 23:39.18 | TuxToaster | eggyknap: yeah, I'm sure there is possibly some justification for the cost... but I dunno. For $100k I'd think you'd be replacing more equipment than just simply fixing it |
| 23:40.09 | TuxToaster | some of the descriptions of what they were saying was wrong with the existing stuff was that they'd get stuck open or pitch wrong... stuff like that seems like cleaning, lubricating, etc. and possibly replacing some internal parts wouldn't $100k make |
| 23:40.26 | beandog | it probably costs $15k |
| 23:40.29 | beandog | but just to be safe, round up. |
| 23:40.34 | beandog | I learned that from math class. |
| 23:40.38 | TuxToaster | but I dunno, not really my area, just thought it was odd that they were going out asking for that much... especially since $100k was only their initial ask |
| 23:40.47 | TuxToaster | they say it should cost $300k+ total |
| 23:41.16 | eggyknap | How big is the organ? |
| 23:41.43 | beandog | $100k big. |
| 23:41.47 | eggyknap | :) |
| 23:41.56 | eggyknap | Sometimes it would be nice if KSL's website actually worked. |
| 23:42.06 | beandog | ~blame carmony |
| 23:42.07 | infobot | ACTION blames carmony (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 23:42.33 | TuxToaster | eggyknap: 16 ft tall, not sure how many pipes it has currently but they are wanting to expand it to 3,300 |
| 23:42.36 | TuxToaster | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=27953793 |
| 23:43.16 | beandog | oh wow |
| 23:43.38 | beandog | I know that church |
| 23:43.38 | beandog | kind of |
| 23:44.06 | beandog | The SLC Methodists are really cool, good people |
| 23:44.23 | eggyknap | If it's really got a bunch of decommissioned pipes, and they took 'em from other organs, voicing will be a big deal (if you want to do it right) |
| 23:44.56 | eggyknap | And if things haven't been touched in 100 years, there's probably lots of dry-rotting leather valve work and some warped wood and things. |
| 23:45.14 | beandog | oh my gosh I know that kid on their website |
| 23:45.34 | beandog | yay youth groups |
| 23:45.58 | TuxToaster | yup yup. Like I said, could be totally legit on the price tag. But also could be that whoever quoted them the work might be hoping to make some coin out of it. |
| 23:46.47 | beandog | aren't like organ parts really hard to find? |
| 23:46.51 | eggyknap | Heh... I was looking at their website in a browser that wasn't very wide... and because the headline was cut off, I saw "Pastor Lee Invites You to Leave" |
| 23:47.00 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 23:47.12 | eggyknap | beandog: there are several manufacturers in the US ... there is (or used to be) one in American Fork, in fact. |
| 23:47.12 | unum | at one part the article reads "the oldest organ in Utah", and I thought that can't be right, but then I kept reading |
| 23:47.34 | eggyknap | It's harder than finding 10p nails and a new timing belt, but it's definitely doable. |
| 23:47.48 | beandog | organs have timing belts? til |
| 23:48.08 | TuxToaster | eggyknap: wait, you mean I can't just pick a new one up at walmart on the way home and stuff it in my trunk? |
| 23:48.13 | unum | there are still large organs like that in use |
| 23:48.39 | beandog | I don't know if I'd trust wal-mart with my organ parts |
| 23:48.46 | eggyknap | Keep your organ out of wal mart |
| 23:48.55 | eggyknap | OBTW, the American Fork organ builder is here: http://www.bigeloworgans.com/home.aspx |
| 23:49.28 | unum | http://www.lds.org/ensign/2000/10/an-instrument-of-majesty |
| 23:49.52 | unum | in fact the lds church just built a 7,667 pipe organ in the last decade |
| 23:50.15 | unum | but there are others I know of in the state. there's a place on 33rd south where you can watch silent movies |
| 23:50.25 | unum | they have a show organ |
| 23:50.28 | beandog | those are some fancy orans |
| 23:50.32 | beandog | *organs |
| 23:51.09 | unum | I think perry theater in ogden, and capital theater in salt lake do as well, but I could be mistaken |
| 23:51.50 | eggyknap | The conference center organ's biggest pipes are 64', though, not just 16' like first united's. |
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| 23:56.05 | macnewbold1 | the church I went to growing up (and my parents still attend) has a real pipe organ, as does another one a mile or so away, in a couple of Sugarhouse-area LDS chapels |
| 23:58.10 | beandog | rdio decided to play me a "Music for Funerals" album. |
| 23:58.13 | beandog | o.O |
| 23:59.11 | TuxToaster | ~pipe beandog |
| 23:59.11 | infobot | ACTION puts beandog in his pipe and lights beandog up |
| 23:59.16 | beandog | lol |
| 23:59.20 | beandog | ~beat eggyknap with a pipe |
| 23:59.20 | infobot | ACTION relentlessly beats eggyknap with a pipe over the head with a Louisville Slugger |
| 23:59.20 | TuxToaster | urm, wrong pipe |
| 23:59.22 | eggyknap | But I've gotta finish the MIDI interface I'd like to build for my electric organ, first. |
| 23:59.40 | beandog | MIDI? Doesn't that have something to do with floppies? |
| 23:59.44 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:59.59 | TuxToaster | IIRC the organ at the conference center has a MIDI interface |