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| 03:11.26 | skinner1 | Anyone around that knows git well? |
| 03:17.07 | UtahDave | skinner1: I'm good enough with git to get work done with it. |
| 03:37.03 | skinner1 | UtahDave: I'm reading this https://help.github.com/articles/working-with-large-files |
| 03:37.19 | skinner1 | wondering if I need to run that "fix" on each team members system |
| 03:38.34 | UtahDave | do you have some large files in your repo? |
| 03:38.41 | skinner1 | Yes |
| 03:38.44 | skinner1 | The background |
| 03:38.55 | skinner1 | We were using beanstalk to host our repo |
| 03:39.01 | skinner1 | decided to move to github |
| 03:39.27 | skinner1 | at one point we had a few .sql files to help new developers get their local db's provisioned |
| 03:39.35 | skinner1 | some of the .sql files were large |
| 03:39.41 | skinner1 | 200 - 800 MB |
| 03:39.45 | skinner1 | they have since been removed |
| 03:39.50 | skinner1 | however they are still in the history |
| 03:40.03 | skinner1 | and we are getting that error in pushing our repo to the new repo in github |
| 03:40.10 | skinner1 | I tested that command on my local copy |
| 03:40.16 | skinner1 | it seemed to work |
| 03:40.20 | skinner1 | I was able to push |
| 03:40.32 | skinner1 | but others are seeing the error |
| 03:40.50 | skinner1 | Some of our guys have local git branches they don't want to lose |
| 03:41.01 | skinner1 | My thoughts are to have them run the command |
| 03:41.02 | skinner1 | but |
| 03:41.10 | skinner1 | is that the right approach |
| 03:41.19 | skinner1 | and it seems like it has to be run on each branch |
| 03:41.51 | UtahDave | I haven't really dealt with that myself, but it looks like that's the thing to do. |
| 03:42.04 | UtahDave | They can always test it on a copy of their local repo first |
| 03:42.22 | skinner1 | my other thought |
| 03:42.30 | skinner1 | is to run that command on all branches on my local copy |
| 03:42.36 | skinner1 | then push them up to github |
| 03:43.00 | skinner1 | then have the others re-clone the repo |
| 03:43.07 | skinner1 | but they loose their local branches |
| 03:43.24 | skinner1 | or....have them push their branches to beanstalk |
| 03:43.34 | skinner1 | the branches they wanna keep |
| 03:43.40 | skinner1 | then I run the cleaner fix on everything |
| 03:44.00 | skinner1 | delete the repo on github and recreate it fresh, push my cleaned repo to it |
| 03:44.04 | skinner1 | and have everyone re-clone |
| 03:44.17 | skinner1 | I'm just trying to determine the best approach |
| 03:45.41 | UtahDave | I'm not sure what the best approach would be, but it seems like if you make a backup first, you could test either of those |
| 03:46.35 | skinner1 | yup |
| 03:46.46 | skinner1 | Well thanks anyway :) |
| 03:50.58 | UtahDave | :) sorry I wasn't much help. |
| 03:54.54 | skinner1 | It's cool :) |
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| 17:17.33 | josephscott | fun one for this morning - http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/10/healthcaregov-why-didnt-the-white-house-use-wordpress-175764.html |
| 17:21.16 | HumanCell | Awesome. |
| 17:21.39 | HumanCell | Obviously Wordpress didn't lean the correct direction ... |
| 17:22.14 | josephscott | didn't grease enough wheels? |
| 17:22.54 | HumanCell | Hmmm ... has Matt sucked up and visited the White House? |
| 17:23.06 | HumanCell | Gave millions to the "correct" campaign? |
| 17:23.42 | josephscott | heck, for +/- $500 million I'd build a site for them :-) |
| 17:23.59 | HumanCell | I think it's that going Open Source is almost endorsing free market solutions ... |
| 17:24.29 | HumanCell | ... if the development is not done in a close, government controlled process, how could it every address all of the "needs" of the contractors? |
| 17:24.32 | josephscott | I think Matt did get a minute with Obama at one point - http://matt.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/president-obama-senator-feinstein-representative-pelosi/ |
| 17:25.11 | josephscott | I've got a brother in law who does software work for a company that does mostly military dev contracts, doesn't sound like my idea of fun |
| 17:25.39 | josephscott | basically none of what most people would consider free market forces |
| 17:26.18 | josephscott | which is kinda funny coming from the gov.t for the country that generally tries to promote that sort of thing (in theory, practice is different) |
| 17:28.06 | tierra | I'm actually more surpised they didn't use Drupal considering whitehouse.gov |
| 17:28.22 | josephscott | yep |
| 17:28.55 | tierra | *suprised |
| 17:30.19 | tierra | all this <http://www.whitehouse.gov/developers> and no open source healthcare.gov is just baffling |
| 17:30.36 | tierra | all under the same administration |
| 17:30.50 | josephscott | giant orgs are difficult |
| 17:31.04 | josephscott | probably not really fair to call it one thing |
| 17:31.54 | josephscott | the university I worked at had many factions, plenty of pain and difficulty there |
| 17:32.59 | tierra | I'm not sure if I even want to know how HIPPA factored in for this |
| 17:34.15 | josephscott | I would expect the legal situation to be the hardest part, not the technical / code / scaling stuff |
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| 18:00.40 | SunSparc | josephscott: They probably did not use WP for the same reason that their site is having so many problems. Keyboard-Chair Interface Errors galore. |
| 18:10.35 | ninnypants | SunSparc: PEBKAC? |
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| 18:14.08 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Exactly. Could not remember that acronum. |
| 18:15.58 | ninnypants | I think the strangest thing to me was that they pulled the source off github |
| 18:24.43 | tierra | josephscott: this was a much more helpful and informative article about healthcare.gov (and one that was featured on ALA): http://blog.dobt.co/post/63655420372/how-healthcare-gov-went-wrong |
| 18:25.27 | SunSparc | ninnypants: The source for the healthcare site? |
| 18:26.44 | josephscott | tierra: gov.t procurement processes are ugly at best |
| 18:27.23 | SunSparc | Best left to the private sektor. |
| 18:27.26 | ninnypants | SunSparc: yeah https://github.com/blencorp/HealthCare.gov-Open-Source-Release |
| 18:27.48 | ninnypants | they pulled it after a bunch of issues were opened or something |
| 18:28.05 | SunSparc | Interesting. |
| 18:29.00 | josephscott | SunSparc: for large contracts like that private sector is, well, it is strange and regulated and tied closely to the gov.t itself |
| 18:30.59 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 18:56.36 | fungus | Ahh, that's why it keeps breaking.... Ruby on Rails |
| 18:57.00 | shalkie | http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/10/why-the-healthcaregov-train-wreck-happened-in-slow-motion.html |
| 18:58.01 | shalkie | Also titled "Healthcare.gov: It Could Be Worse" |
| 19:05.06 | DexterTheDragon | there's no rails code in it. It's nothing but html, json, and markdown files |
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| 19:20.09 | DexterTheDragon | yeah I don't know why it mentions rails at all. It's completely a client side app and uses Jekyll for page generation |
| 19:20.59 | ninnypants | video editing programs are fun export .avi at 14G run it through handbreak for an .mp4 at <200M |
| 19:22.58 | tierra | DexterTheDragon: heh, weird... there's definitely not any "app" folder here, and yeah, I only see Jekyll files |
| 19:23.32 | tierra | even the JSON "API" is Jekyll: https://github.com/blencorp/HealthCare.gov-Open-Source-Release/blob/master/api/questions.json |
| 19:24.12 | tierra | (it's just generating static JSON files, not dynamically generating them based on API calls |
| 19:24.55 | tierra | maybe this is just one single component to the site... where are the forms posted to? |
| 19:25.38 | DexterTheDragon | and starting up the jekyll server it's the pre Oct 1st site |
| 19:26.15 | ninnypants | tierra: I think forms are js based and work with json apis |
| 19:26.53 | DexterTheDragon | so they may be using rails for the site, but this isn't the source code for the site as it is now |
| 19:30.56 | DexterTheDragon | healthcare.gov has 2 pieces, the static info pages, and healthcare.gov/marketplace where all the registration and login and forms are |
| 19:35.07 | stderr- | what? |
| 19:35.21 | stderr- | this isn't the company that did healthcare.gov. |
| 19:35.36 | stderr- | You people. |
| 19:36.06 | DexterTheDragon | stderr-: near the bottom of https://www.healthcare.gov/developers/ they link to github |
| 19:36.22 | DexterTheDragon | but they took it down cause they got spammed with issue tickets |
| 19:36.35 | DexterTheDragon | this is a mirror |
| 19:37.15 | stderr- | yea this isn't the marketplace code, though. |
| 19:37.29 | stderr- | it's just the "educational" content. |
| 19:41.44 | stderr- | (not done by CGI Federal) |
| 19:44.45 | stderr- | it's like saying you have the codebase for Google Search when you find the repo for the Google Search API documentation. |
| 19:45.34 | stderr- | not to defend healthcare.gov's marketplace, anyone who has looked at that markup can tell noone over there has any idea what they're doing. |
| 20:00.25 | stderr- | at any rate, yea, healthcare.gov's marketplace wasn't built on Rails. I think it was built on a .NET technology. The frontend you're looking at was built by Development Seed, which is a Rails shop. |
| 20:02.29 | stderr- | (and a good shop at that) |
| 20:02.36 | stderr- | so spare me your pithy comments, fungus. |
| 20:02.48 | fungus | lol, was a joke. |
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| 20:05.39 | stderr- | pretty frustrating to hear jokes about "lol Rails brokenz" while you're viewing code on one of the most popular Rails driven websites that has helped the open source movement immensely |
| 20:05.41 | stderr- | (Github) |
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