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| 16:13.36 | ninnypants | ~rlart |
| 16:13.36 | infobot | explains, ever so gently, that if romanovic doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 16:18.23 | ninnypants | romanovic: there are two possible solutions to you problem caffeine or naps |
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| 16:24.27 | romanovic | already gone the caffeine route, but my fatigue is a bottomless pit that Monster can't fill |
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| 17:36.22 | shanemhansen | Any resident mysql replication experts out there? |
| 17:36.31 | shanemhansen | I really need to buy someone lunch and pick their brain. |
| 17:36.44 | shanemhansen | <herlo> ask macnewbold |
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| 17:38.02 | mindjuju | another expert is stevecoug |
| 17:38.06 | mindjuju | but he's out of town right now |
| 17:38.24 | josephscott | shanemhansen: what mindjuju said, was going to suggest Steve Meyers |
| 17:38.45 | josephscott | depending on what they are you can ask in the channel and see if others can help |
| 17:38.55 | mindjuju | eggyknap is great, too, at sql - but he no likey mysql |
| 17:39.12 | shanemhansen | I've used postgres almost my entire professional life. |
| 17:39.17 | josephscott | I've done some with it, but there are more options now for MySQL replication, not sure which one you are looking at |
| 17:39.33 | shanemhansen | I have an existing mysql replication setup. I'm trying to move from 5.1 to the latest mariadb. |
| 17:39.50 | shanemhansen | I can't get the mariadb slave "working". |
| 17:40.01 | shanemhansen | I have a feeling I'm not getting a consistant snapshot. |
| 17:40.15 | mindjuju | well, i know stevecoug will be back either wednesday / thursday, and part of his preso was on mariadb |
| 17:40.16 | shanemhansen | I keep getting errors about duplicate inserts into say, the session database. |
| 17:40.50 | shanemhansen | Theoretically what I'm doing should be as straightforward as any other type of replication: |
| 17:40.51 | shanemhansen | https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mysql-to-mariadb-replication-error/ |
| 17:41.13 | shanemhansen | The mariadb people are helpful too, but I keep getting stumped. |
| 17:42.07 | shanemhansen | I also have a gut feeling I'm missing something with the hostname-relay logs, but yeah. I suck at mysql replication. |
| 17:42.31 | shanemhansen | Backcountry used bucardo + postgres until they went enterprisy w/ oracle. |
| 17:44.04 | josephscott | and you are sure the duplicate inserts are coming in as part of the replication process and not some client trying to write directly to the mariadb server? |
| 17:44.35 | shanemhansen | yes. |
| 17:46.13 | shanemhansen | Ideally I can bootstrap the new slave from the old slave. Since the slaves don't have any particular SLA yet. |
| 17:47.02 | josephscott | if you replicate a new DB to the mariadb slave does it also run into this error? |
| 17:48.03 | shanemhansen | I haven't tried. I'm also not quite sure what you mean by replicate a new DB. |
| 17:48.16 | shanemhansen | Do you mean setting up a simple empty test master? |
| 17:48.30 | shanemhansen | and trying out a few inserts to make sure they show up on the slave? |
| 17:50.03 | josephscott | yep |
| 17:50.17 | josephscott | just to eliminate other external items |
| 17:51.30 | josephscott | and confirm that the core nuts and bolts work as expected |
| 17:51.44 | shanemhansen | Good idea. I'll give that a try. |
| 17:51.55 | shanemhansen | It's kind of a "side project" at work. |
| 17:52.25 | shanemhansen | But we already ran into one report that exhibited crazy bad behaviour when we added an extra filter (no new joins) on 5.1. |
| 17:52.39 | shanemhansen | The same report was stable (kept basically the same, good, query plan) on mariadb. |
| 17:53.10 | shanemhansen | I'm sure in this case we'd basically get the same benefit out of the latest mysql, but mariadb seems to be the way to go. |
| 17:54.35 | josephscott | yeah, 5.1 is kinda old at this point, and historically MySQL is pretty bad at joins, so newer stuff should do much better there |
| 17:55.23 | josephscott | I've been using the percona builds, but mariadb is another good option |
| 21:18.05 | carmony | Anyone know any C/C++ devs who know Windows pretty well that are looking for some contract work? |
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| 21:18.52 | mindjuju | you know, i think tierra does c++ work, and I know at a previous employer, they did offer a windows install |
| 21:19.12 | mindjuju | oh and he did wxwidgets, and i think that's c work |
| 21:20.41 | carmony | mindjuju: oh really? |
| 21:20.53 | mindjuju | rly |
| 21:20.56 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 21:21.26 | carmony | is that true tierra? |
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| 22:53.19 | tierra | carmony: true, but keep in mind, we're not talking about native Win32/MFC/.NET/WPF stuff... just wx (which very occasionally required touching Win32) |
| 22:53.46 | carmony | tierra: would you be interested in getting your hands dirty in some Win32 stuff? :P |
| 22:55.14 | tierra | not really, heh |
| 23:08.35 | tierra | about the only thing worse than developing a native Win32 desktop application is building a native Win32 desktop application on top of MFC... so if you've avoided MFC there, that's great, but I still feel sorry for anyone that has to dive into that code :( |
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| 23:12.55 | unum | we use builder for all our native win32 apps |
| 23:13.29 | josephscott | for mindjuju - http://googlefiberblog.blogspot.com/2013/10/some-clarification-for-small-businesses.html |
| 23:14.09 | fungus | This is one circumstance where Java shines. |
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| 23:15.32 | josephscott | mindjuju: from http://crossies.com/pissed.html |
| 23:17.20 | fungus | It's really interesting how Google gets so much ire for doing the same thing most major ISPs have been doing for decades.\ |
| 23:21.57 | josephscott | most other ISPs don't offer Gbps :-) |
| 23:24.13 | fungus | I think it's mostly due to the fact that Google has a reputation of not being evil, so they are held to higher standards than other ISPs. |
| 23:24.30 | josephscott | back in the dial up days the I didn't care if you used a server on the other end, as long as you were under our max hours limit |
| 23:24.39 | josephscott | I'd agree with that |
| 23:27.28 | fungus | I like to wonder how much evil does Google have to do in order to break it's non-evil reputation. |
| 23:28.41 | josephscott | haha |
| 23:28.49 | josephscott | I'd guess, lots |
| 23:29.23 | josephscott | they are going Facebook style with ads, curious if that pushes many people over the edge |
| 23:29.44 | josephscott | ah, dinner is on, time to go. |
| 23:29.53 | fungus | agreed, they are near invincible. It's gonna take them mass murdering babies in America to become less liked. ;) |
| 23:35.03 | tierra | fungus: forget Java, just use wxWidgets :P |
| 23:35.30 | tierra | or really, Qt is much better too |
| 23:35.35 | fungus | heh, or that. :) |
| 23:35.45 | tierra | but you should support *real* open source projects :) |
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| 23:37.52 | tierra | on that note, I think it's been about 7 years since the last time wxWidgets came out with a new major release... that time is upon us finally, 3.0 is out within the next month |
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