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15:22.52*** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> UPHPU geek lunch @ Chipotle in Sandy @ 1p | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org
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15:52.28infobotacting on orders from an unspecified client drags undertakingyou into court suing for $200 million
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15:52.49herloheh
15:53.06undertakingyouGood luck infobot
15:53.09ninnypantsinfobot must be a patent troll
15:53.34herloundertakingyou: you have $300 million just lying around, someone needed it
15:53.50undertakingyouherlo: now that is just silly!
15:54.11herlono, it's frivilous :)
15:54.16undertakingyouIf I have (or when I get) $300 million, I have a purpose for each and every dollar.
15:54.23undertakingyouAlready planned. Can't share :)
15:54.44herlolol
15:54.56herloyou don't get a choice in frivilous lawsuits
15:55.04herloyou will have to defend yourself
15:58.23undertakingyouThere is always choice.
15:58.49undertakingyouIn that particular case, retirement to Belize is in order.
15:59.07herlo:)
15:59.22undertakingyouActually, not. But now I want to! :D
15:59.40mindjujuso undertakingyou, quick question, and I know it sounds morbid: i'm not a big fan of expensive coffins, and I wondered, do they still sell pineboxes?  what are the legal requirements for coffins?
15:59.51herloOh, then retiring to Belize will have a whole different meaning to you once you watch that... :)
16:00.12mindjujucould you be buried in a cardboard box?
16:00.20herlomindjuju: cremation
16:00.30undertakingyoumindjuju: There is no requirement to have a casket at all.
16:00.38undertakingyouI have buried people shrouded in a sheet.
16:00.51undertakingyouCemeteries may require a vault, check with the cemetery in question.
16:01.00undertakingyouBut other than than, you can do whatever you want.
16:01.18undertakingyouThe pioneer pine boxes are not available from any standard commercial source.
16:01.30undertakingyouBut we have had people bring in caskets and coffins that they made themselves.
16:01.37undertakingyouAnd I have used cardboard boxes too.
16:01.42undertakingyouAnything goes there.
16:02.25mindjujucool!
16:02.28mindjujui was just curious
16:02.32herlobeing buried costs more though, doesn't it?
16:02.40undertakingyou:) No worries.
16:03.08mindjujusee,t hat's EXACTLY it for me
16:03.12herlojust burn me up, and put my ashes on the nearest ski hill
16:03.27herloafter I'm dead, of course. :)
16:03.34mindjujuwell, i'm thinkging a nice pinebox, a book light and some calvin and hobbes
16:03.40mindjujuman, i miss having the time to read those
16:03.44herlowhy?
16:03.52herloyou can't read while dead anyway
16:04.08herloat least not after the book light goes out :)
16:04.25mindjujuwell though, i could prolly rig up some kind of solar panel
16:04.29mindjujuand then i could have headphones
16:09.55ninnypantsthey could play mindjuju techno in the grave
16:10.09penouns uns uns uns
16:10.31mindjujunow you're talkin!
16:11.54ninnypantsmindjuju: you can buy caskets at walmart http://www.walmart.com/ip/Star-Legacy-Blue-Tapestry-Dome-Casket/24058934
16:12.14mindjujui saw, but still too pricey
16:12.28mindjujui'm thinking like $200
16:12.37mindjujureally, i'm dead, i don't want silk and stuff
16:12.37ninnypantsyeah not as cheap as I thought it would be
16:13.00mindjujui want a nice comfy pillow and some handful of things that brought me happiness whilst alive
16:13.12ninnypantsmindjuju: just have corbin make you one out of plywood it'd probably only be $50
16:13.31mindjujusounds reasonable
16:13.59ninnypantsthat'd probably even be after springing for the fance 1' ply
16:14.11mindjujuheh
16:16.36undertakingyouYou guys can be as cheap as you want. Remember though, that for whatever reason people like, even love you, and they should have some type of service as part of whatever you do.
16:17.18mindjujuthat's true
16:17.39herlorub a dub dub, thanks for the grub. Now spread my ashes around. :)
16:18.13mindjujuso herlo, you really like skiing?
16:18.28undertakingyoumindjuju: no, he is just cold hearted
16:18.31herlomindjuju: love it
16:18.33penolol
16:18.35mindjujui don't think i knew that about you
16:18.48mindjujui mean i saw you mention skiing with mgeary
16:19.11DexterTheDragonmindjuju: that's all herlo and mgeary ever talk about in the winter
16:19.14mindjujuare there rules about what you can do with ashes undertakingyou?
16:19.18herloDexterTheDragon: it's true
16:19.54mindjujumaybe we could put herlo ashes into that thing they use to make avalanches
16:20.21herlothat'd be awesome
16:20.26mindjuju:)
16:20.36herloit's a sonic cannon
16:20.37undertakingyoumindjuju: you can spread ashes anywhere that you have permission of the land owner.
16:20.38herloiirc
16:20.42undertakingyouSo private land you are good.
16:20.47undertakingyouDon't do Disneyland.
16:20.51undertakingyouIt pisses them off.
16:20.55mindjujuheh
16:21.24carmonylol, interesting the things that we talk about in here :P
16:21.28undertakingyoumindjuju: with that said, they also have to catch you. So with the ski resort. Be discrete and they will never know.
16:21.51undertakingyouI love that people ask me these questions.
16:22.35mindjujuit's not everyday you get to talk with the undertaker
16:24.41carmonyfinding good devs to hire is hard
16:25.08mindjujuwhat kind of devs are you looking for?
16:25.27penoones that are better than carmony
16:25.36mindjuju:)
16:25.37carmonyphp devs :P
16:25.41mindjujuhey peno, happy bday!
16:25.46mindjujucourse, that was yesterday
16:25.52penoyes, yes it was
16:25.59carmonywe're looking for a solid mid-to-senior level PHP dev who also is confortable with JS/HTML/CSS
16:26.02mindjujusorry i missed it, yesterday was crazy and i didn't get to sit down but a few minutes here and there
16:26.10carmony$lart peno
16:26.16carmony~lart peno
16:26.16infobotdecapitates peno conan the destroyer style
16:26.21penoneat!
16:26.39carmonywaaaaaaaiiiit.... is was Peno's birthday?
16:26.44penosshhhhhhhhhh
16:26.48carmonydid we do anything at DDM for your birthday?!
16:26.49undertakingyoushoot, happy birthday.
16:26.53undertakingyouBummed I missed it.
16:26.56penonope
16:27.02carmonyI'm talking to Michelle right now
16:27.09penolol, crap.
16:27.24mindjujupeno works at DDM?
16:27.28carmonyyup!
16:27.33mindjujuah cool, didn't know
16:27.52penobeen here since the beginning of juen
16:27.52carmonyHeartsbane hooked us up with the lead he was considering changing jobs :)
16:27.58DexterTheDragonmindjuju: I learned everything from Ask a Mortician https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTCg6PGaOkM&list=UUi5iiEyLwSLvlqnMi02u5gQ
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16:41.58mindjujudid yall see that adam olsen is getting married today?  i think his handle is synic, i forget -- it's been a while
16:42.11mindjuju~seen synic
16:42.16infobotsynic <tsharpe@unaffiliated/heartsbane> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 580d 23h 11m 39s ago, saying: 'move along sjansen, nothing to see here'.
16:42.57undertakingyoucarmony: your retweet was the best I have read in a long time.
16:43.15carmonyundertakingyou: lol, the watery tart one? :P
16:43.29undertakingyoustrange women lying in ponds
16:43.30undertakingyouYes.
16:43.33undertakingyouLove it.
16:43.42undertakingyouI need a cheer me up right now too, so that is great.
16:54.28ninnypantsanyone using one of the apple fusion drives? Is it worth it over the default SATA drive?
17:02.50fungusninnypants, I am.  Yes it's way better than a standard SATA drive, but not quite as fast as full SSD
17:03.19ninnypantsfungus: that's ok since I work mostly with text files I don't think I'll have a bottleneck there
17:03.48ninnypantsand any of the heavy stuff I need to use like photoshop will probably end up on the ssd part and be quick anyway
17:04.59fungusI haven't had a ton of time to do thorough testing with it, but supposedly it will dynamically move frequently used files to the SSD and leave the rest on SATA.
17:05.31fungusThat idea is good for frequent used files, but won't help accessing older files.
17:06.06funguseg. Photoshop good, iPhoto/Lightroom bad.
17:06.33ninnypantswhich is ok because I've had a macbook for years and I'm not sure I've ever opened iPhoto
17:06.53ninnypantsI do use Lightroom a decent amount but it's not bad running off SATA now anyway
17:07.24fungusRight, Fusion is going to be better or the same as a SATA drive.
17:08.33ninnypantsok that's what I thought
17:08.49ninnypantsa little speedier for some stuff but about the same for the rest
17:09.38fungusWrites to new files are way fast since they always go to SSD first.
17:09.47fungusthat's really nice.
17:10.48ninnypantsyeah thinking replacing my winders desktop with a mac mini is a good choice
17:11.18fungusAlso, by choosing the Fusion drive option, you get both SSD and SATA drives.  It's possible to split them up and not use the Fusion software and manually manage what files go where.
17:12.28ninnypantsoh cool I was going to ask if you could choose some default files to leave on the ssd part so that they were always quick no matter how often they were accessed
17:13.07fungusI don't think so (or at least haven't found them).
17:13.22mindjujuninnypants, DTD - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/10/nsa-surveillance-patriot-act-author-bill
17:13.28mindjujuhere's to hope :)
17:13.38DexterTheDragonyeah I read that
17:15.09ninnypantsquite the name for the bill
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17:20.54ninnypantsmindjuju: I wonder if it'll include something for deleting data already captured
17:23.48mindjujulet's hope
17:36.11Heartsbanewut
18:03.41ninnypantsis anyone running gitlab? I know I talked about it with some people after one of the meetings, but I can't remember who
18:05.41DexterTheDragonchipotle chipotle chipotle!
18:05.47mindjuju:)
18:06.13ninnypantsDexterTheDragon: do you have to leave now to get there?
18:06.57DexterTheDragonmore or less. it'll take about 40 minutes to get down there. plus I have to get the dogs rounded up and taken care of
18:20.42josephscottmmmm, lunch
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22:27.53TuxToaster_for those of you using Sublime Text: http://tmtheme-editor.herokuapp.com/#/PlasticCodeWrap
22:28.19TuxToaster_(might not work in browsers other than Chrome)
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22:37.36ninnypantsTuxToaster_: wont even try to work in browsers other than chrome
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22:38.11TuxToaster_but figured it was cool
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22:38.46TuxToaster_lol
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22:58.10tierranot a fan of that color scheme
23:08.37ninnypantsI'm trying to compile ruby 2.0 and everything seems to compile fine but when I try to use gem install I get this error http://d.pr/n/ZbbQ
23:10.46ninnypantsI've tried some of the things I've found like running ./configure --with-openssl-dir but when I do that at the end of the configure it says it's run with an unknown option --with-openssl-dir
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23:22.55ninnypantsfigured it out I was missing a couple packages I installed libreadline-dev and libcurl4-openssl-dev and recompiled
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