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| 15:08.46 | mindjuju | tom clancy died today :( |
| 15:10.53 | herlo | no more books I guess... |
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| 15:15.50 | jsmith | mindjuju, herlo: Yeah, but his writing really went downhill after his divorce :-( |
| 15:22.25 | mindjuju | haven't read his works recently, just the old stuff like hunt for red october |
| 15:23.10 | herlo | saw that movie |
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| 15:57.46 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Was he assasinated? |
| 15:59.20 | mindjuju | doesn't say, i don't think that's been released yet |
| 15:59.46 | mindjuju | SunSparc: this is why i don't mountainbike - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46HJbbIWlA#t=147 |
| 16:01.12 | mindjuju | it's a good thing that guy moved, his buddy comes down like 2 seconds later |
| 16:04.16 | SunSparc | mindjuju: That video is the reason you do not mountain bike? So if that video did not exist you would totally be all over mountain biking? |
| 16:04.52 | mindjuju | sure, why not |
| 16:04.59 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 16:05.12 | SunSparc | That video shows why it is important to pre-ride your routes. |
| 16:05.32 | herlo | maybe they were 'preriding' :D |
| 16:05.40 | SunSparc | Good thing. |
| 16:06.06 | SunSparc | It is a lot of fun. |
| 16:06.48 | SunSparc | But there are certainly some crazy courses. |
| 16:07.30 | SunSparc | This one looks like it could have been fine, but they apparently did not realize they would have as much speed as they did when they hit that turn. |
| 16:09.27 | mindjuju | so is mountain biking like golf where you have to wait until the previous people clear the field? how do you know the person in front of you by a couple minutes isn't pre-riding, where you're now going full speed? |
| 16:11.24 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Sometimes problems are unavoidable, but being aware of your course and the other people on it is important. Being observant is key, like with any other possibly hazardous activity, such as driving a car. |
| 16:17.15 | fungus | mindjuju, you don't have to race when mountain biking. You can take it slow, use low traffic trails, etc. |
| 16:21.27 | SunSparc | Yep, you can be as crazy or safe as you want. |
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| 16:56.35 | fungus | but the most fun comes from the crazy. :) |
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| 17:08.49 | SunSparc | fungus: True that :) |
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| 19:41.07 | mindjuju | so ninnypants1, how does google fiber compare to something like metamucil? |
| 19:41.19 | mindjuju | rofl |
| 19:41.53 | ninnypants | mindjuju: not sure yet I have to wait until Nov for the full effects of google fiber |
| 19:42.16 | mindjuju | wow, you have to wait until Nov for the fiber to kick in? |
| 19:43.24 | ninnypants | mindjuju: slow at first but I hear it speeds up later |
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| 20:19.08 | mindjuju | herlo zenoss > nagios ? |
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| 20:47.16 | herlo | meh |
| 20:48.18 | mindjuju | have other recommendation or they are all about the same? |
| 20:48.52 | herlo | nagios is what we use. |
| 20:49.04 | herlo | I would say that all the monitoring solutions need love |
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| 21:04.35 | SunSparc | mindjuju: that fiber joke made me smile |
| 21:06.53 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 21:35.57 | KingMichael | Is there any web design/web dev companies that don't require college and provides on the job train in salt lake |
| 21:36.12 | KingMichael | training* |
| 21:37.56 | unum | not that I know of |
| 21:38.23 | unum | I remember talking to someone 8 years ago who said he hired students right out of high school |
| 21:38.36 | unum | but I can't remember at all where he worked |
| 21:39.07 | KingMichael | lol yeah i just don't want to go to school |
| 21:39.24 | KingMichael | now days you haft to have college degree for everything |
| 21:39.26 | ninnypants | KingMichael: go to the internet |
| 21:40.06 | KingMichael | i'v looked every thing out there that i can find hast to have a college degree |
| 21:40.09 | unum | finding a place that doesn't care about if you have degree is a lot easier than finding a place to pay you to be trained |
| 21:41.06 | unum | maybe ninnypants can tell you how he got started |
| 21:42.46 | unum | it seems like most the people I know with out degrees are self employed |
| 21:42.51 | KingMichael | i'v been thinking about reaching out to my cousin he owns his own web desing company but i never see him that much and id fill wired about asking for a job |
| 21:43.17 | ninnypants | I got connected with someone from distance ed at UVU because I did do a couple classes and got a job there doing basic stuff, then went to another ed place and did some basic php then just started doing WordPress freelance after that |
| 21:43.44 | KingMichael | ninnypants nice |
| 21:47.48 | SunSparc | ~smoke KingMichael |
| 21:47.48 | infobot | ACTION rolls up KingMichael, lights a match, kicks back and enjoys the noxious fumes |
| 21:49.14 | KingMichael | lol |
| 21:50.45 | ninnypants | so KingMichael what do you know now and what do you need training in? |
| 21:52.11 | KingMichael | html css learning more about html 5 been learning php and mysql as a hobby for the last year and a half but still fill like i need to no a lot more |
| 21:52.44 | mindjuju | didn't you come in a few days ago asking about PHP listing the contents of a file directory |
| 21:53.00 | KingMichael | heres a project iv been working on for about a year www.mybluedream.org/yourmusicpage |
| 21:53.09 | KingMichael | yeah |
| 21:53.28 | mindjuju | i get a 502 :( |
| 21:53.45 | SunSparc | KingMichael: What is your knowledge level with html and css currently? |
| 21:53.49 | KingMichael | i need to reboot vps |
| 21:54.42 | KingMichael | ah still need to learn more id say basic because i mostly focus on php |
| 21:54.55 | SunSparc | KingMichael: this might help with the 502: http://www.nginxtips.com/502-bad-gateway-using-nginx/ |
| 21:55.17 | KingMichael | i just need to re boot it but all check out the link |
| 21:55.34 | SunSparc | KingMichael: Have you played around with Codecademy? http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/web |
| 21:56.16 | KingMichael | i think iv looked at it but iv been thinking about using treehouse.com |
| 21:56.43 | KingMichael | okay you can click the link again it will work |
| 21:57.00 | KingMichael | www.mybluedream.org/yourmusicpage |
| 21:58.11 | KingMichael | I'm making the audio player hoping to have it done in the next week or so |
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| 22:02.14 | KingMichael | any php meetings coming up id like to check one out one of these days |
| 22:02.51 | macnewbold | Third thursdays of the month |
| 22:03.00 | macnewbold | 7pm at Needle (14600 S) |
| 22:04.37 | KingMichael | sweet and anyone can go? like open to the public and stuff? |
| 22:05.03 | mindjuju | admission is $15, you can paypal it to maskedbandit@google |
| 22:05.08 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 22:05.18 | KingMichael | ah |
| 22:05.20 | KingMichael | coolbeans |
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| 22:05.31 | mindjuju | it's free and you may get a dinner out of it too |
| 22:05.37 | mindjuju | loads of fun |
| 22:05.49 | KingMichael | even better :) |
| 22:20.48 | mindjuju | so KingMichael, it may be hard to get a job with your portfolio until it bulks up a little more. I recommend doing more mockups or working with a local charity that needs web work done |
| 22:21.04 | KingMichael | That is a good idea |
| 22:21.25 | KingMichael | yeah i was thinking i needed to practice more |
| 22:21.37 | mindjuju | do you want to work more front-end or server side? |
| 22:21.54 | KingMichael | i think id rather do server side |
| 22:21.58 | mindjuju | from what you were saying about PHP, you... yeah |
| 22:22.21 | KingMichael | front end would be cool but would need to be much better with css |
| 22:22.36 | mindjuju | so i think you'll want to hone your front end skills a little more, but you're right dump tons of time into PHP |
| 22:22.52 | KingMichael | Yes i agree |
| 22:23.36 | mindjuju | so, i think you'll want to line up your resources, like are you on the UPHPU mailing list? |
| 22:23.45 | mindjuju | the mailing list is a GREAT resource |
| 22:23.58 | mindjuju | meetings are great for learning and for networking |
| 22:25.03 | KingMichael | yeah i'm not on the mailing list but wanting to go to one of the meeting and check it out |
| 22:40.55 | ninnypants | KingMichael: I think mgeary is hiring jr devs right now so he may be able to give you an idea of where you need to get to |
| 22:42.28 | mgeary | KingMichael: indeed. You can email me a resume at michael.geary@treelinegroup.com. i've been offline, so i don't have easy access to the discussion history here, so i don't know anything about you/your situation |
| 22:43.36 | KingMichael | i don't have a resume i can try to make one though |
| 22:45.31 | KingMichael | iv was just asking if there where any web design or web dev companies that don't require college degree and has on the job training |
| 22:45.52 | KingMichael | iv worked in retail for 11 years same job for 11 years but need a change |
| 22:46.21 | KingMichael | but i think all need to practice more or brake down and go to school |
| 22:47.09 | KingMichael | i have basic html and css skills learning more about html5 and over the last year and a half been learning php and mysql but still fill like i need to learn more |
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| 22:48.42 | KingMichael | mgeary if you want to look at my work you can go to www.mybluedream.org i haven't done a lot with my home page because iv been focusing on a project well this project www.mybluedream.org/yourmusicpage |
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| 23:05.03 | KingMichael | i g2g will be back |
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