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| 15:51.14 | ninnypants | anyone used splunk? http://www.splunk.com/download |
| 15:51.37 | ninnypants | trying to parse and understand syslog to see if I can figure out why mysql keeps going down |
| 15:51.45 | herlo | played with it some. Have a look at logstash. |
| 15:58.50 | SunSparc | I looked at it a while back. Interface looks pretty, but I never actually installed it. |
| 15:59.14 | herlo | there's another one that is nice too, but I can't recall the name atm |
| 15:59.26 | herlo | as for splunk, it's reasonable, but costly. |
| 16:00.51 | SunSparc | How about logly? |
| 16:01.06 | herlo | isn't that just a SaaS logger? |
| 16:01.25 | herlo | seems like the wrong approach in a lot of cases if you ask me. |
| 16:02.10 | SunSparc | Hmmm, then how about: http://newrelic.com/ or https://papertrailapp.com/ |
| 16:02.29 | SunSparc | Though perhaps those are the same. |
| 16:02.45 | SunSparc | Those are some that we have been looking into. |
| 16:02.52 | shanemhansen | Anyone ever looked at CSS code and thought: "That person should never have been paid to write css?" |
| 16:03.30 | SunSparc | shanemhansen: lol, yes |
| 16:03.39 | shanemhansen | Like: .something {color:red; color:green} |
| 16:03.45 | shanemhansen | This isn't going to end well. |
| 16:03.53 | shanemhansen | Or, I give them a little more credit for this: |
| 16:04.06 | shanemhansen | .something a, a:hover { color:pink;} |
| 16:04.22 | SunSparc | glorious :) |
| 16:08.23 | shanemhansen | And we wondered why a:hover states were getting applied everywhere. |
| 16:09.01 | SunSparc | That would do it. |
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| 16:49.04 | mindjuju | so ninnypants, i saw you're having problems with mysql |
| 16:50.40 | mindjuju | i'm guessing you've had a look at this? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/error-log.html |
| 16:58.25 | carmony | SunSparc: It depends on how much data and real-time you want to log |
| 16:58.46 | mindjuju | ~log carmony |
| 17:00.06 | SunSparc | ~realtime |
| 17:00.06 | infobot | [realtime] a feature of Asterisk starting with 1.2 which allows you to map any configuration file (static mappings) to be pulled from the database, or to map special runtime entries which permit the dynamic creation of objects, entities, peers, etc. without the necessity of a reload. |
| 17:00.56 | carmony | I've been wanting to setup a LogStash/Kibana/ElasticSearch/StatsD setup for awhile |
| 17:01.44 | SunSparc | No better time than the present. |
| 17:04.34 | carmony | http://demo.kibana.org/#/dashboard |
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| 17:16.30 | ninnypants | mindjuju: nothing in the mysql error log just oom in the server log it says it's out of memory and shuts down |
| 17:16.55 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 17:17.05 | mindjuju | so if you know it's oom, then why you searching the logs? |
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| 17:20.14 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I'm trying to figure out what's causing the oom. I doubled the amount of the ram in the server with no change, and it only happens about once a week |
| 17:21.05 | mindjuju | how much memory does your web app take per thread? |
| 17:21.14 | mindjuju | err process i mean |
| 17:21.15 | ninnypants | the server is only running my personal site which doesn't get any real traffic, another site that interfaces with mysql a little that gets even less traffic, and a static site |
| 17:22.10 | mindjuju | k |
| 17:22.18 | ninnypants | mindjuju: looks like I'm giving php a max of 64M |
| 17:22.58 | ninnypants | trying to look at process logs to see if something is happening where apache/php is suddenly eating up a bunch of memory |
| 17:23.04 | mindjuju | so ninnypants, do this |
| 17:23.12 | mindjuju | go to your bash and say top |
| 17:23.23 | mindjuju | and then look and see what's snarfing up all your memory |
| 17:26.05 | ninnypants | so currently the highest memory process is mysql with 6-7%, but only about 30% of my total memory is used |
| 17:26.58 | ninnypants | apache uses maybe 5% |
| 17:36.11 | ninnypants | mindjuju: http://pitchfork.com/features/cover-story/reader/daft-punk/ |
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| 17:56.10 | mindjuju | i wish we could force congressmembers to only introduce new comments when they go to the lecturn |
| 17:56.29 | mindjuju | otherwise, they need to truncate their comments and say something short and sweet like I agree |
| 17:56.59 | mindjuju | each person going up and saying identically what was said 5 minutes before is a HUGE waste of time |
| 18:01.30 | ninnypants | mindjuju: what are you watching? |
| 18:01.44 | eggyknap | Dear Congressperson, please find enclosed a simple device of my own making, called a "Ditto for me!" button... |
| 18:01.58 | mindjuju | cspan |
| 18:02.07 | mindjuju | well, specifically cspan 2 |
| 18:02.56 | eggyknap | Just how much such a thing would matter would depend directly on just how much attention anyone was actually paying to the congresscritter |
| 18:03.49 | mindjuju | ah true |
| 18:04.33 | mindjuju | oh no, senator puts mic in his shirt and then fixes his coat over his shirt |
| 18:05.08 | mindjuju | now every shift sounds like hurricane wind |
| 18:06.05 | mindjuju | in other news, a whole gernation was just shifted back to adolescence - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24173194 |
| 18:12.54 | fungus | I agree, 25 is the new 18 |
| 18:13.40 | mindjuju | heh |
| 18:14.06 | mindjuju | if that shift is across the board, then that makes me 33 |
| 18:14.10 | mindjuju | that'd be nice |
| 18:14.32 | fungus | I am agnostic as to the cause of the shift. Be it cultural change, or simply better understanding of neurology. |
| 18:22.41 | fungus | In other, more positive, news: http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamMachines/ |
| 18:23.45 | unum | I hadn't seen that you can join the beta |
| 18:24.22 | mindjuju | oh i forgot the announcement was coming out :) |
| 18:27.18 | mindjuju | alright! 46hrs until HL3 announcement! |
| 18:27.20 | mindjuju | finally! |
| 18:28.28 | fungus | optimism can lead to depression if you are wrong. |
| 18:29.12 | fungus | Better to be pessimistic and surprised. |
| 18:31.44 | mindjuju | fungus, some people look at the world and ask why, i like to look at my grill and ask why not |
| 18:31.53 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 18:32.38 | mindjuju | ...sigh... |
| 18:33.36 | fungus | meh, dkim doesn't have enough traction to bother with. unless you are on Google Apps where it's really easy. |
| 18:34.24 | mindjuju | course though, we're in the spam dog house rightnow |
| 18:34.31 | mindjuju | need to do everything possible to clear that up |
| 18:34.40 | fungus | are you blacklisted anywhere? |
| 18:34.57 | mindjuju | not in the spamhaus since, but our emails are still going into the spam folder |
| 18:35.03 | mindjuju | err, sense |
| 18:35.22 | fungus | There are many other blacklists, most more popular than spamhaus |
| 18:36.09 | fungus | http://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx |
| 18:36.25 | mindjuju | i've actually checked there, we're green down the line |
| 18:37.55 | fungus | A temporary measure to resolve your issues while you clear up your rep is to change your outgoing IP. |
| 18:38.37 | mindjuju | that's not a bad idea |
| 18:38.49 | mindjuju | and that box does have additonal ips assigned |
| 18:39.00 | mindjuju | so i guess that'd be a change in the MTA conf for the sending IP |
| 18:39.41 | fungus | yup |
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| 20:40.20 | clintberry | @carmony why you calling the police? |
| 20:41.33 | carmony | @clintberry http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865587065/Ex-teacher-Boy-Scout-leader-arrested-in-sex-exploitation-case.html -- lived 2 houses down from me |
| 20:41.46 | clintberry | oh man. that sucks |
| 20:43.20 | carmony | fortunately nothing happened to me |
| 20:49.48 | carmony | but I figured I should share what little I knew about some stuff that happened on a camping trip |
| 20:53.12 | clintberry | oh man. That is so crazy. So many sex offenders out there |
| 20:58.32 | carmony | yeah, its really sad |
| 20:58.45 | carmony | he was a really nice guy, really good neighbor |
| 21:00.31 | carmony | its just too bad that he struggled with those things. |
| 21:34.10 | mindjuju | anybody here know about reverse DNS? |
| 21:34.50 | mindjuju | in my ever typical fashion of asking non-typical questions about the every day mundane things, my question is this: |
| 21:35.57 | mindjuju | i have an ecom site at www.example.com, the fqdn is actually something.esle.com |
| 21:36.09 | mindjuju | and when it sends out emails, it sends it out as something.else.com |
| 21:36.30 | mindjuju | so my rDNS q is, do i set it to something.else.com or example.com? |
| 21:42.04 | fungus | are you talking about a mail server, or a web server? |
| 21:43.43 | mindjuju | well both actually. So it's this way. a server with the hostname something.else.com has a site www.example.com |
| 21:43.51 | mindjuju | that box has sendmail on it |
| 21:44.03 | fungus | don't have your web server send mail if at all possible. |
| 21:44.13 | mindjuju | when it sends, it uses the fqdn something.else.com |
| 21:44.13 | fungus | It should relay to a mailserver first. |
| 21:44.36 | fungus | your rDNS should match your hostname of the server (postconf myhostname) |
| 21:44.47 | mindjuju | k |
| 21:45.23 | fungus | Which is another reason, among many, that your webserver should relay to a real mailserver instead of sending mail directly. |
| 21:46.04 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 21:48.02 | fungus | though there are reasons not to, but only for small/simple or extremely low volumes of email. |
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