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| 15:34.37 | mindjuju1 | ninnypants: finally a laugh on all this NSA stuff - http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-helicopter-searched-for-nsa-listening-post-in-frankfurt-a-921257.html |
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| 17:48.06 | mindjuju1 | no wonder its so quiet in here, everybody is watching the apple thing |
| 17:50.11 | mahelious | not i. only new tech im excited about is kitkat |
| 17:51.43 | mindjuju1 | i'm interested enough to see the postgame on it, but not much more |
| 17:52.04 | mindjuju1 | instead i'm reading about a 250 pound halibut that was caught: http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/nature/post/fisherman-opts-to-keep-massive-231-pound-halibut/ |
| 17:52.32 | josephscott | there is an apple thing? |
| 17:52.34 | josephscott | ;-) |
| 17:52.41 | mindjuju1 | rarely, i get to sit and babysit some repair men, today is such a day |
| 17:52.55 | josephscott | how many mindjuju's are there? |
| 17:53.09 | mindjuju1 | josephscott: http://news.yahoo.com/apple-event-live--new-iphone-expected--come-chat-and-follow-as-it-happen--173848734.html |
| 17:53.26 | mindjuju1 | oh repair men? there are 4 |
| 17:53.42 | mindjuju1 | 2 from the fire sprinkler company, 2 electricians |
| 17:54.07 | mindjuju1 | all of 'em more than 2hrs late |
| 17:54.13 | josephscott | I meant how many of you |
| 17:54.18 | herlo | mahelious: I'm already tired of that nickname |
| 17:54.28 | josephscott | if you have to start adding a counter to the end of your nick :-) |
| 17:54.33 | herlo | mostly because I've got a billion developers wanting clones of it on our git servers. |
| 17:54.39 | mahelious | ?? |
| 17:54.46 | herlo | mahelious: kitkat |
| 17:54.53 | mindjuju1 | so today, i looked up a little on common core and how it compares internationally |
| 17:55.06 | mindjuju1 | was even going to ask mgeary thoughts on it, but then had to go check on something |
| 17:55.30 | mgeary | generally speaking, am in favor of Common Core |
| 17:56.02 | mgeary | it's not like we're losing our autonomy. If anything, we're gaining more of a voice, since until now we've pretty much just been swept along with whatever Texas or California wanted to do |
| 17:56.16 | mindjuju1 | the only frustration with common core is conservative arguement -- so far, it's mostly rhetoric and not a lot of substance |
| 17:57.08 | mindjuju1 | and with my parental duty of helping Corban with his homework, i've sceen scant socialist indoctination |
| 17:57.42 | mindjuju1 | the commas looked a little red and swinging to the left more than my comfort, but that's about it |
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| 17:59.43 | mgeary | meh. seems to me the same thing that right-wingers cry out about health care reform. They claim it's being taken over by the government, and that it's socialism, but if you dig just a little bit, you tend to find that they have no substantiation, and, frankly, rarely understand more than the blather they hear from pulpit-pounding talk radio |
| 18:00.10 | mgeary | clearly, some people take the time to inform themselves. That wasn't intended as a sweeping accusation, but i've encountered many people who fit that description |
| 18:00.46 | mgeary | i don't mind if you disagree, but at least find a legitimate foundation for your disagreement. Sheesh. But i rant. Sorry |
| 18:00.49 | mindjuju1 | well, like i say, i haven't found much substance to the allegation |
| 18:01.14 | mindjuju1 | Corban came home with exponents the other day, from math homework |
| 18:01.18 | mindjuju1 | how cool is that? |
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| 18:01.36 | mindjuju1 | i don't recall when i learned exponents, but it certainly wasn't in elementary |
| 18:02.53 | mindjuju1 | but saw some parents complain on FB about common core and how crazy the math was, so i started looking |
| 18:03.24 | unum | that's the first concrete complaint I've heard |
| 18:03.44 | unum | so some parents are concerned that the stardards are too high? |
| 18:04.07 | herlo | standards should be higher |
| 18:04.09 | josephscott | mindjuju1: nice, what grade is he in? |
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| 18:04.35 | herlo | Corban just finished high school in 5th grade. He's that smart of a kid! |
| 18:04.44 | josephscott | hehe |
| 18:05.20 | josephscott | well, I'd guess 5th since mindjuju1 said elementary school |
| 18:06.04 | herlo | well, 6th is commonly in elementary these days |
| 18:06.22 | josephscott | my oldest is in 6th grade, which is at a middle school |
| 18:06.30 | josephscott | that said, the district only made that change this year |
| 18:06.34 | unum | in the district I grew up in(davis) 6th was in elementary school |
| 18:06.50 | josephscott | I went to a middle school for 6th grade |
| 18:06.55 | unum | 7-9 were "junior high" |
| 18:07.14 | herlo | I went to middle school from 6-9 |
| 18:07.28 | josephscott | that was like extended middle :-) |
| 18:07.36 | josephscott | 6-8 were middle for me |
| 18:07.43 | herlo | I started and then they changed it so 6th was in elementary and 9th in middle |
| 18:15.58 | SunSparc | Speaking of Health Care, I think it should be handle like Auto Care and Home Care. I do not see how it is helpful for the Federal government to be involved. |
| 18:16.06 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:16.15 | unum | the federal government is involved in auto care and home care |
| 18:18.01 | unum | and the socialist take over of the medical system happened 40 years ago it's called medicare |
| 18:18.18 | unum | I'm really hoping the ACA get ammended to be more like the bill Bennett proposed |
| 18:18.25 | unum | I really hate employer based health care |
| 18:19.05 | unum | and the insuruance companies should be regulated at the federal level to increase competition |
| 18:19.34 | unum | in recent years I have decided that technological changes are a perfectly valid argument for increased federal power |
| 18:20.11 | unum | why shouldn't I be able to buy insuarance form a company in Florida over the internet |
| 18:20.28 | SunSparc | You should. |
| 18:20.40 | unum | oops |
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| 18:20.58 | unum | neverind, I thought I had worded things wrong, but I got it it right |
| 18:21.18 | mgeary | SunSparc: it's not the Government so much as insurance companies that have jacked up healthcare |
| 18:21.37 | unum | state level regulation of HMOs(easier to spell) creates a barrier to competition |
| 18:21.51 | mgeary | medicare is actually run with admirable efficiency |
| 18:21.59 | unum | mgeary: agreed |
| 18:22.55 | mgeary | insurance companies take market forces out of healthcare. They buffer the consumer from pricing. To get a good feel for the impact, compare pricing and offerings of uninsured procedures like Lasik with the rest of healthcare |
| 18:23.09 | mgeary | used to be that Lasik was what, like $12k |
| 18:23.32 | mgeary | it's gotten better (i hear) and much MUCH cheaper in the last 20 years |
| 18:23.52 | mgeary | because they have to compete, and people are spending discretionary money on it |
| 18:24.30 | unum | employer based insurance takes market forces out of the insurance market, since decisions are not really being made by the end consumer |
| 18:28.04 | unum | last I talked to someone about lasik, you could get the latest and greatest and pay the same as you used to, or you can go to a doctor using hand me down equipment and get a MUCH better rate |
| 18:28.57 | mindjuju1 | josephscott, he's in 5th |
| 18:29.45 | mindjuju1 | sorry, had to go put the fire sprinkler alarm system in test mode |
| 18:30.55 | mindjuju1 | but it was kind of nice that he was there, because then I immediately took him to binary and showed him how that works |
| 18:31.52 | mindjuju1 | (considering that his pops just learned the ins and outs of binary just last semester, he'll out shine me shortly :( |
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| 19:06.30 | unum | I'll be teaching binary tonight |
| 19:14.52 | TuxToaster_ | fun |
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| 19:15.49 | TuxToaster | ~rlart |
| 19:15.49 | infobot | hereby declares romanovic a troll |
| 19:26.26 | carmony | stevecoug: hey :) |
| 19:27.13 | mindjuju1 | hay is for horses |
| 19:27.31 | herlo | how come? |
| 19:27.48 | mindjuju1 | well, if you want some hay too, we can prolly accomodate |
| 19:28.11 | herlo | lol |
| 19:28.29 | mindjuju1 | which reminds me herlo, utahpython should have a "From PHP to Python: Come to the dark side" preso |
| 19:29.58 | mindjuju1 | trying to help corban with a science project, python does some things way different |
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| 19:43.17 | herlo | lol |
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| 19:57.17 | ninnypants | anyone know a good place to get the old dangerous mousetraps that go off if you set them down wrong? |
| 19:58.39 | herlo | ninnypants: can't find any these days? |
| 19:58.44 | herlo | maybe try CAL Ranch? |
| 19:59.20 | mindjuju1 | i think harbor fright has them |
| 19:59.45 | herlo | harbor fright, sounds kind of like a haunted house for halloween :) |
| 19:59.52 | ninnypants | herlo: I can find mouse traps but the ones I can find don't go off. The mouse has taken the bait at least 3 times and they never went off |
| 20:00.19 | mindjuju1 | sounds like a job for r.pi |
| 20:00.25 | herlo | weird |
| 20:00.45 | mindjuju1 | put a little motion detector on r.pi and some kind of lethal device |
| 20:00.55 | herlo | lol |
| 20:03.24 | mindjuju1 | ninnypants: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIOypgh1dU8 |
| 20:03.27 | mindjuju1 | there is one idea |
| 20:04.10 | mindjuju1 | oh wow, apparently this tweets when it catches something |
| 20:04.18 | mindjuju1 | that's a +5 to cool |
| 20:04.25 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:04.47 | ninnypants | mindjuju1: people are always trying to build a better mouse trap |
| 20:05.20 | ninnypants | mindjuju1: I've been thinking about just making one of the old school bucket traps |
| 20:08.09 | mindjuju1 | that'll work |
| 20:08.23 | mindjuju1 | course, searching for r.pi mouse trap brings up this gem of a blog |
| 20:08.36 | fungus | Mousetrap: http://www.utahhumane.org/adoptions/adoption-listings/cats-listings |
| 20:08.52 | mindjuju1 | where the author laments the r.pi for its dependency on linux and on the failures of linux in general compared to microsoft |
| 20:08.58 | mindjuju1 | http://seeingclaarly.blogspot.com/2012/10/will-raspberry-pi-break-out-of-linux.html |
| 20:09.09 | ninnypants | fungus: if my dog wouldn't eat it we'd already have one |
| 20:09.29 | fungus | heh. |
| 20:09.54 | fungus | honestly i've had good luck with some no-kill mousetraps in the past. |
| 20:09.56 | ninnypants | fungus: and they wouldn't really want me to leave it outside to catch the mouse eating my tomatoes |
| 20:10.08 | ninnypants | I don't think they provide outdoor mousetraps |
| 20:11.10 | mindjuju1 | so fungus, i'm just curious what you did with the live mouse? |
| 20:11.26 | SunSparc | Fed it to his python. |
| 20:11.26 | fungus | released it outside. |
| 20:11.31 | mindjuju1 | ah |
| 20:11.56 | SunSparc | So it could eat your tomatoes. :) |
| 20:12.10 | SunSparc | Speaking of tomatoes, I need to harvest mine. |
| 20:12.58 | mindjuju1 | so fungus, this humane-ness tot he mouse, makes me wonder, is that also why you're a vegetarian or are you vegetarian for other reasons (/too) ? |
| 20:12.59 | SunSparc | Wow, that is a prolific plant. |
| 20:16.16 | fungus | humane-ness to mice, and vegetarian-ness are both separate features. Both support my goal of kindness/compassion for all (including animals). |
| 20:16.34 | mindjuju1 | makes sense, i was just curious |
| 20:17.39 | ninnypants | SunSparc: yeah we'll probably get more by halloween |
| 20:18.02 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 20:18.03 | herlo | mindjuju1: how's business? |
| 20:18.06 | herlo | crazy yet? |
| 20:18.30 | mindjuju1 | yeah, things have picked up :) |
| 20:19.51 | mindjuju1 | so i'm curious what jenn had to do yesterday that caused her to post to FB something like "the things that parents do :(" |
| 20:20.39 | herlo | AJ crapped himself about 5 times |
| 20:20.53 | mindjuju1 | oh no:( poor little guy, is he sick? |
| 20:20.58 | herlo | no |
| 20:21.06 | herlo | he just won't go on the potty |
| 20:21.25 | herlo | so he poops a little each time into different underwear. We change it, he goes a little more. It's really annoying. |
| 20:21.28 | fungus | mindjuju1, that r.pi rant was awful. Paraphrasing: <whine>I bought this really cheap hobby product and it doesn't behave like my expensive consumer electronics.</whine> |
| 20:21.32 | herlo | It's just life |
| 20:21.42 | herlo | fungus: lol |
| 20:22.10 | mindjuju1 | herlo, poor Jenn :( that's not a fun stage |
| 20:22.17 | mindjuju1 | fungus, wasn't athat blog too nutty? |
| 20:22.26 | herlo | mindjuju1: oh, I get to deal with it too. |
| 20:22.32 | mindjuju1 | :( |
| 20:22.57 | herlo | she does the bulk of it and yesterday was part of that... |
| 20:43.49 | ninnypants | mindjuju1: I see you got to have some fun on the phone |
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| 20:52.33 | mindjuju1 | ninnypants: , with that scammer guy? |
| 20:52.38 | mindjuju1 | yeah, lots of fun |
| 20:52.59 | ninnypants | mindjuju1: did you get his number? |
| 20:53.16 | mindjuju1 | showed up unlisted on our server |
| 20:53.44 | mindjuju1 | i should prolly invest some time and see if we can track it and report them |
| 20:55.36 | ninnypants | mindjuju1: seems like even just reporting it and the time would be enough for the police to find the number |
| 20:56.00 | ninnypants | mindjuju1: makes me wonder why I haven't seen any news of this person being caught http://provopolicedepartment.blogspot.com/2013/08/scam-alert.html |
| 20:58.07 | mindjuju1 | wow |
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| 21:02.50 | unum | I'm going to turn an r.pi into my sprinkler/lighting control system |
| 21:03.07 | unum | my brother bought a guru plug and we were using it to run his train |
| 21:03.12 | unum | we need to move that to his r.pi |
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| 21:08.41 | ninnypants | mindjuju1: yeah there's another one about about utilities out on the 4th http://provopolicedepartment.blogspot.com/2013/09/scam-alert.html |
| 21:09.27 | ninnypants | seems that stuff like this could be pretty easily traceable since pay phones don't really exist |
| 21:32.34 | skinner1 | ~skinner skinner |
| 21:32.34 | infobot | ACTION buries skinner in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH! |
| 21:38.42 | TuxToaster | unum: cool. There's also OpenSprinkler that has an RPi kit |
| 21:39.39 | unum | http://rayshobby.net/?page_id=5816 <- it's enclosed, nice |
| 21:39.48 | TuxToaster | yup yup |
| 21:39.56 | TuxToaster | there's a slick PHP web app for it as well |
| 21:40.07 | TuxToaster | really flexible and open source firmware, I love it |
| 21:41.09 | unum | well that'll save me a lot of work :) |
| 21:41.16 | unum | ya that's exactly what I was going to do |
| 21:41.32 | TuxToaster | yup. Plus there are plenty of people that have used it to do other projects like Christmas lights |
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| 21:55.51 | mindjuju1 | ~apb shalkie |
| 21:55.51 | infobot | ACTION hires Dog the Bounty Hunter to spray mace at shalkie |
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| 21:58.30 | mindjuju1 | shalkie: you've suggested in the past running a blimp at OpenWest 2014 (openwest 2, electric boogaloo) -- if you build this, i wouldn't mind if you fly it -- http://itbl.es/1d3XpL4 |
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| 22:01.28 | shanemhansen | I found a candidate who knows what a closure is!! http://i.imgur.com/f9Q1gkF.png |
| 22:01.47 | shanemhansen | and one who's example php code wasn't batshit crazy. |
| 22:02.44 | shanemhansen | Perhaps there's hope for humanity yet. |
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