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| 16:47.15 | mgeary | moo |
| 16:59.46 | jsmith | mindjuju: You looking for me? |
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| 17:02.58 | carmony | Alright, so what do we want to do about the meeting tomorrow? I have had zero luck tracking down a replacement speaker |
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| 17:14.10 | clintberry | no PHP speakers these days? what's going on? |
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| 17:27.51 | Skinner | carmony: Ask around what people want to learn about, then see if anyone knows something on those topics and can speak. :) |
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| 17:29.34 | mindjuju | that's the nice way to do it |
| 17:29.44 | mindjuju | skinner_: ^ |
| 17:30.05 | mindjuju | I used to /names to see who all was in the chan and then pick and convince who should speak ;) |
| 17:30.58 | mindjuju | see, if it were me, I'd beg eggyknap to talk on DBs and buy him applebees since he'd have to come up from where he lives |
| 17:31.18 | mindjuju | or supernovia on design |
| 17:31.38 | mindjuju | ninnypants on WP |
| 17:31.41 | mindjuju | DtD on Git |
| 17:31.52 | mindjuju | stderr- on security |
| 17:32.03 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit mindjuju |
| 17:32.03 | infobot | ACTION stikes at mindjuju with the vulgar dragon technique knocks out mindjuju and injures ponderability! |
| 17:32.08 | mindjuju | ha! |
| 17:32.32 | mindjuju | tierra gave some awesome talks a while back he's good for multiple topics |
| 17:32.38 | mindjuju | herlo on sys admin for web devs |
| 17:32.56 | mindjuju | peno for networking |
| 17:33.03 | eggyknap | mindjuju on girls... |
| 17:33.04 | eggyknap | Oh, wait... |
| 17:33.25 | mindjuju | fungus on sysadmin for web devs (alternative to herlo) but you'd prolly need to buy im 2 cosmos to get him to come ;) |
| 17:33.30 | mindjuju | ha! |
| 17:33.55 | mindjuju | i keeps it real - http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/58229410018/engineering-as-seen-by-marketing |
| 17:34.40 | mindjuju | stevecoug: is great for DBs but he's expecting or recently had |
| 17:35.34 | mindjuju | josephscott is a great ringer on multiple topics |
| 17:36.05 | eggyknap | (the rest of us are one-trick ponies...) |
| 17:36.06 | eggyknap | j/k |
| 17:36.15 | josephscott | I've been terrible this summer, haven't had much time for UPHPU or presenting |
| 17:36.30 | josephscott | and now I'm trying to get WordCamp SLC 2013 off the ground |
| 17:37.50 | mindjuju | ah dag! i didn't mean it that way :) |
| 17:38.10 | HumanCell | Wordcamp 2013? |
| 17:38.22 | HumanCell | When? |
| 17:38.25 | mindjuju | i meant that if I had to call on you at the last minute and catch you at your best, that subject matter would be best |
| 17:38.59 | josephscott | HumanCell: Sep 21st |
| 17:39.08 | josephscott | HumanCell: http://2013.slc.wordcamp.org/ |
| 17:39.22 | eggyknap | mindjuju: I was kidding. No offense taken :) |
| 17:39.45 | mindjuju | though HAM for PHP would be cool :) |
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| 17:51.45 | josephscott | these git aliases look good enough to be part of standard git - http://zacharyflower.com/my-two-favorite-git-aliases/ |
| 17:55.48 | stevecoug | josephscott: I was about to submit a talk for WordCamp SLC, but realized it's the day of the BYU-Utah football game. |
| 17:56.11 | josephscott | stevecoug: you can skip that, WC SLC will be much more fun :-) |
| 17:56.36 | josephscott | what time is the game at? |
| 17:57.08 | jsmith | josephscott: What day is WC-SLC? |
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| 17:57.27 | josephscott | jsmith: Sep 21st - http://2013.slc.wordcamp.org/ |
| 17:57.39 | jsmith | josephscott: OK... |
| 17:59.58 | stevecoug | josephscott: game time is TBA, but I'll be running a tailgate as well |
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| 18:18.18 | stderr- | less than a week and I start "real" work again. Too excited for my own good. |
| 18:22.51 | carmony | Skinner: you want to present on something? :P |
| 18:23.41 | Skinner | carmony: Unfortunately, I can't make the meeting. I'm helping my bro-in-law move. |
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| 20:08.18 | carmony | So is there anyone here who would be able to come out to the meeting tomorrow night? |
| 20:09.56 | ninnypants | http://www.mit.edu/newsoffice/2013/encryption-is-less-secure-than-we-thought-0814.html |
| 20:10.45 | ponderability | I'm planning on attending.. Will I be the only one? :-p |
| 20:10.59 | ninnypants | ponderability: I believe he means present |
| 20:11.10 | mindjuju | how apropos |
| 20:11.17 | carmony | yes, who is going to be present at the meeting :P |
| 20:11.55 | mindjuju | i'm pondering the ponderability of ponderability's question |
| 20:12.00 | mindjuju | truly, how ponderous |
| 20:12.40 | ponderability | I considered ponderous.. Decided to create my own word ending instead to move from a negative connotation to an ambiguous one. |
| 20:13.16 | mindjuju | ponderability -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0xWLahk86I |
| 20:13.50 | mindjuju | i think it's a favorite of mgeary |
| 20:13.58 | carmony | ponderability: has there been anything you would like to present on tomorrow night? :P |
| 20:14.10 | mgeary | hah |
| 20:14.17 | mgeary | i totally have that song |
| 20:14.25 | mgeary | though i wouldn't necessarily consider it a *favorite* |
| 20:14.35 | mindjuju | i know you do, we had a talk on it a year or more back |
| 20:14.46 | carmony | figlet? :P |
| 20:15.03 | mindjuju | no i meant mgeary and i talked about 2nu 's ponderous |
| 20:15.09 | carmony | ah |
| 20:15.41 | mindjuju | but carmony, if you're asking about funny PHP talks we've had in the past |
| 20:15.51 | mindjuju | we did have high availability goto in PHP |
| 20:15.59 | mindjuju | postgres lolcode by eggyknap |
| 20:16.05 | mindjuju | and I did the one on figlet |
| 20:16.45 | mindjuju | do be aware, lolcode for postgres is a real thing |
| 20:17.19 | mindjuju | http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/e7e0a2570805020827j44032d31gcad5f15bbfc04755@mail.gmail.com |
| 20:21.22 | eggyknap | .oO(Those were the days) |
| 20:24.28 | ponderability | I can't think of anything to present on that seems topical.. I could always sing the virtues of reel mowers. |
| 20:25.24 | carmony | the other problem is I can't be there tomorrow night |
| 20:25.32 | ponderability | That is more of a lightning topic though. |
| 20:26.24 | carmony | its the last night here in the states before I fly out to the Ukraine for a week |
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| 20:28.22 | carmony | and the people I would typically rely on to run the meeting, none of them are able to come tomorrow night |
| 20:29.40 | ponderability | carmony: that sounds like a potential cancellation. Is there someone from Needle around to even open the place up? |
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| 20:29.50 | carmony | Needle will be good |
| 20:30.17 | carmony | I just need to have A) someone who can be there for sure to run the meeting, and B) have a plan on what to do for the meeting. |
| 20:31.38 | carmony | I'm maybe thinking having an "Show & Tell Night" with a theme, like a favorite tool to use with PHP |
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| 20:33.15 | mindjuju | like Nano + PHP? |
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| 20:35.29 | ninnypants | mindjuju: that'd be carmony's presentation ;) |
| 20:35.44 | mindjuju | ah dag! |
| 20:36.21 | ponderability | carmony: Show and tell sounds cool to me. I was going to suggest a slightly-controlled open discussion. |
| 20:57.45 | ninnypants | josephscott: are you still working with phantom js? |
| 20:58.18 | josephscott | ninnypants: casperjs, we still run tests with it, haven't written any new ones lately |
| 21:00.39 | ninnypants | ok I was thinking phantom was the testing one but it's just the headless webkit part |
| 21:01.12 | ninnypants | josephscott: does it work pretty well for you guys then? I'm looking at integrating it with grunt possible since I'm starting to use that in projects |
| 21:01.44 | josephscott | yeah, it has worked fine for us |
| 21:02.11 | josephscott | one of the guys here wrote some shell script wrappers around it to track test state, irc logging, email, etc. |
| 21:02.23 | ninnypants | ok I'll have to look at how we can integrate thanks |
| 21:02.58 | ninnypants | that's cool I'm trying to really round out our tools this year. Pushing for better repo setups and better deploy and upgrading processes |
| 21:10.04 | ninnypants | josephscott: have you done any of the downloading tests with casper? |
| 21:10.16 | josephscott | no |
| 21:12.57 | ninnypants | ok was wondering if you can check hashes to make sure all was good but I'm not seeing anything on it |
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| 21:34.56 | carmony | ponderability: so you will be there tomorrow? |
| 21:36.07 | carmony | I'll go ahead and announce the meeting if you can just make sure to help the show & tell goes well :P |
| 21:44.58 | ninnypants | carmony: I plan to be at the meeting tomorrow as well |
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| 21:56.13 | carmony | ninnypants: ok, we'll go ahead and do that, unless you have a presentation you want to give :P |
| 21:57.00 | ninnypants | I could potentially give a presentation but since I've never really presented on anything and I have to work it may not be worth much :) |
| 21:57.35 | carmony | ninnypants: To not put you under the gun to prepare something for tomorrow, we can just try out the Show & Tell idea |
| 22:01.04 | ninnypants | carmony: I think show and tell could be a good format |
| 22:01.06 | ponderability | carmony: Yep, I'm going to be there and can try to shepherd things a bit. :) |
| 22:04.48 | carmony | ponderability, ninnypants: sounds good. You two will likely have to kick off the discussion so think of some things to show & talk about. :) |
| 22:07.02 | ninnypants | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.07 | ponderability | ninnypants: That's the perfect opener. |
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| 22:13.15 | ninnypants | ponderability: yeah i actually laughed out loud while on a call when I read it |
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| 22:23.29 | TuxToaster | ~paypal-- |
| 22:23.34 | TuxToaster | ---------------------- |
| 22:23.53 | TuxToaster | ~karma paypal |
| 22:23.53 | infobot | paypal has karma of -2 |
| 22:24.03 | TuxToaster | still too high. |
| 22:24.40 | herlo | okay, so I have a fun question at just before the witching hour |
| 22:25.13 | herlo | I've got a geodns server setup, when you are in china or australia, you get the chinese git server. When you are anywhere else, you get the NA git server. |
| 22:26.00 | herlo | However, when you do actions on 80/443 (essentially web access), we don't have web servers in to represent that information and want all traffic to go to North America |
| 22:26.46 | herlo | I'm using nginx and wanted to get opinions on the best way to do something like a rewrite rule or proxy to pass the traffic back to NA for the web. |
| 22:26.51 | herlo | any thoughts? |
| 22:39.26 | TuxToaster | I'm on the phone with PayPal tearing my brains out |
| 22:39.35 | TuxToaster | but the first thought that comes ot mind is |
| 22:40.01 | TuxToaster | if you do proxy, your web performance would suffer, not sure how sessions and cookies and such would play without some tweaking possibly |
| 22:40.15 | TuxToaster | if you do redirect you'd presumably have to have a way to redirect them directly to na |
| 22:40.41 | TuxToaster | e.g. you'd redirect them to www1.domain.com to avoid the geodns... but then that gives an avenue for avoiding the routing |
| 22:41.08 | TuxToaster | seems like if you want to only do geo for git you'd be better off having git.domain.com and setting up geo there |
| 22:41.18 | TuxToaster | but leaving your web traffic as normal |
| 22:41.55 | herlo | TuxToaster: if only it were that simple |
| 22:42.03 | herlo | the customer needs it the way it is... |
| 22:42.38 | herlo | TuxToaster: yeah, considering us.xyz.org and cn.xyz.org for non geodns sites. |
| 22:43.00 | herlo | that would make things easy |
| 22:43.11 | TuxToaster | given that I'd say redirecting them to us.xyz.org would be cleaner than trying to proxy traffic |
| 22:43.48 | TuxToaster | if you ever made those geo later you could always then detect non-us visitors and redirect them elsewhere or passively suggest they update their bookmarks |
| 22:44.39 | herlo | detect? As in the browser session or something? |
| 22:44.45 | herlo | we're only doing it at the dns level atm |
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