| 00:01.35 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 00:03.56 | Skinner | I are |
| 00:04.21 | mindjuju | so skinner, have you used aws much? |
| 00:04.26 | mindjuju | here is my question: |
| 00:05.09 | mindjuju | i have a abotu 300GB of data i need to send up to a E2 machine |
| 00:05.46 | mindjuju | i setup the machine with an FTP server, but that seems to be maxing out about 300KB, i seemed to get a much faster file transfer when sending to S3 |
| 00:06.03 | mindjuju | in which case, i was thinking to send to S3 then from the e2, grab |
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| 00:08.18 | Skinner | I haven't used aws much. Just a little on a project a while ago. I'd say try sending a sample of the data to S3, check the speed. Then from e2 grab it and check speed. If it's faster, you found your route. :) |
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| 00:09.30 | Skinner | do you have a lot of small files or a smaller collection of large files? |
| 00:09.46 | mindjuju | about 20 files == 300GB |
| 00:10.03 | mindjuju | one is like 75GB, 2 are like 50+ |
| 00:10.13 | mindjuju | and the rest are much smaller |
| 00:10.35 | Skinner | cause you could try enabling compression for ssh, then use SFTP...? |
| 00:11.14 | Skinner | but there is still the overhead of encryption.... |
| 00:12.39 | Skinner | but for just plain speed, ftp is good. But you probably already know this. :\ |
| 00:12.56 | mindjuju | i'm actually using FTP over ssl right now |
| 00:13.29 | Skinner | yeah, I'd try a sample and time it. Cause you'd still have to transfer all data to S3 then th e2. |
| 00:13.33 | Skinner | *to e2 |
| 00:13.43 | mindjuju | yup |
| 00:17.18 | mindjuju | i wonder how much overheadd ftp over ssl is compared to other secure ways |
| 00:19.53 | Skinner | if you had a beefy machine, I'm sure the overhead from encryption wouldn't be much |
| 00:20.29 | mindjuju | k, you just found the monkey in the wrench |
| 00:20.38 | mindjuju | the s2 has ok IO |
| 00:20.47 | mindjuju | i forgot, budget is an issue here |
| 00:20.58 | mindjuju | and that's why this is running so slow over ftp |
| 00:21.12 | mindjuju | i'm getting near 300KBps |
| 00:21.41 | mindjuju | i beat that's it, it's the E2 IO rate |
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| 00:22.30 | mindjuju | that explains wh s3 seemed to go so much faster |
| 00:24.41 | Skinner | gotcha |
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| 02:49.20 | shanemhansen | Dear past php developer, stop trying to make my eyes bleed. |
| 02:50.24 | shanemhansen | How many different programming standards can you fit in one file? |
| 02:51.59 | shanemhansen | I wish php had gofmt to enforce the pear coding standards. |
| 02:55.09 | shanemhansen | At least I have some snazzy emacs configuration: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6128061/927d6e22b7c49c3ad9e35dd6eee459ce2e2d08cc |
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| 15:07.10 | ninnypants | mindjuju: did you need the epiphan back today? |
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| 17:16.43 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 17:16.43 | raifbot | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at eggyknap. |
| 17:19.23 | Skinner | $rlart |
| 17:19.23 | raifbot | offers mindjuju some herring. |
| 17:19.49 | mgeary | that deescalated quickly |
| 17:25.38 | mindjuju | ah, who doesn't like lutefisk |
| 17:26.39 | mindjuju | oh wait, that's made with cod, not herring |
| 17:29.47 | eggyknap | careful, eggyknap fires back... |
| 17:30.24 | eggyknap | mindjuju: with all the awful stuff people do to the original food to make lutefisk, I doubt too many people care what it started out as. It's still nasty., |
| 17:30.47 | mindjuju | i haven't tried it yet, but i think given the chance, i would |
| 17:31.05 | eggyknap | Ok, same here -- I actually haven't had it, and I'd be willing to go for a small piece. |
| 17:31.11 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:31.26 | mindjuju | how could a million Norweigian people be wrong? |
| 17:31.53 | eggyknap | These people have chosen to live in Norway when there are places like Florida. I call that one strike already. |
| 17:31.56 | eggyknap | j/k |
| 17:32.04 | mindjuju | ah true that |
| 17:32.29 | mindjuju | and what's with the wooden shoes? at least the Japanese made flip flops out of wood |
| 17:33.19 | mindjuju | i thought it was called a sabot |
| 17:33.24 | mindjuju | but i'm not finding it under that |
| 17:34.09 | fungus | lol, not you, per se. The repo maintainer. |
| 17:34.17 | eggyknap | I think you're right. Fun fact: that's also the name for a wadding formed around oddly-shaped projectiles, so they can be fired through a normal barrel. |
| 17:35.20 | mindjuju | so i just learned that like 3 days ago off netflix |
| 17:35.25 | mindjuju | biggest tank battles |
| 17:35.40 | mindjuju | i think the round was called a saber and it was wrapped in a sabot |
| 17:35.44 | mindjuju | how cool is that? |
| 17:36.15 | eggyknap | Mythbusters made foam sabots for shooting frozen chickens from an oversized air gun |
| 17:36.41 | mindjuju | oh i didn't see that one |
| 17:36.59 | mindjuju | my pride was injured from Mythbusters, haven't seen it in a while |
| 17:37.09 | mindjuju | i'm ashamed to say :( |
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| 17:37.14 | eggyknap | heh |
| 17:37.44 | mindjuju | it was the episode where they were talking about what would happen if an airplane landed on a conveyor belt |
| 17:37.46 | mindjuju | or something like that |
| 17:37.55 | eggyknap | because of course that's likely to happen :) |
| 17:39.22 | macnewbold | any JS/PHP folks in here looking for work or willing to consider a change? |
| 17:39.49 | mindjuju | eggyknap - did you see this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8CO-Z8CAxg |
| 17:39.55 | shanemhansen | Any PHP-emacs guys out there? |
| 17:40.10 | shanemhansen | I have a problem with indentation that I don't know how to fix. |
| 17:40.28 | eggyknap | mindjuju: yeah, that was kinda a fustercluck. |
| 17:40.44 | mindjuju | flustercluck, i love it |
| 17:40.56 | mindjuju | i personally say Fit hit the Shan |
| 17:41.01 | mindjuju | i'm going to have to remember that one |
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| 17:42.08 | mindjuju | here is the plane on conveyorbelt - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Q83yxdDaI |
| 17:42.18 | carmony | fungus: true, but its a good point from a good sysadmin :) |
| 17:43.02 | shanemhansen | https://gist.github.com/shanemhansen/6133571 <-- what I get vs what I want. |
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| 17:45.57 | mindjuju | oh here is the ending of the mb - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YORCk1BN7QY |
| 18:33.04 | shanemhansen | Answered my own question, partially: (c-set-offset 'arglist-intro '+) |
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| 19:26.24 | macnewbold | shanemhansen: i <3 emacs |
| 19:26.40 | shanemhansen | ditto |
| 19:26.58 | shanemhansen | phabricator + arc lint + phpcs + emacs + flymake mode == super awesome |
| 19:27.47 | macnewbold | oooh |
| 19:28.00 | shanemhansen | If any of you guys haven't used phabricator, it's pretty awesome and PHP friendly. |
| 19:28.02 | macnewbold | so which one is what you want? top or bottom? |
| 19:28.11 | shanemhansen | Bottom. |
| 19:28.39 | shanemhansen | I've heard it's a sin, but when working with the PEAR coding standard the default method of indenting to the opening parenthesis of a function uses up all my line length. |
| 19:29.14 | shanemhansen | Also phpcs in pear mode is very picky, it only accepts the bottom. |
| 19:30.39 | shanemhansen | I don't know if linting is that common in the PHP world but I'm hooked on it. |
| 19:31.40 | ninnypants | mindjuju: did you see this that carmony posted http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/08/government-knocking-doors-because-google-searches/67864/ |
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| 19:55.42 | jankes | hello |
| 19:56.24 | jankes | i would like to start programming in PHP. Which software do you recommend me to write some programms? |
| 19:56.35 | jankes | i have been here for the first time |
| 19:58.57 | ninnypants | jankes: do you mean what code editor should you use? |
| 19:59.08 | jankes | yes |
| 19:59.12 | jankes | i use windows |
| 19:59.19 | jankes | btw, i come from Poland |
| 19:59.47 | jankes | i heard about adobe macromedia and netbeans |
| 19:59.58 | ninnypants | jankes: I really like sublime text, but if you don't buy it it'll nag you. There is also notepad++ |
| 20:00.14 | jankes | but i am newcomer in php |
| 20:00.52 | jankes | i heard about notepad++, but i want to use something better |
| 20:02.08 | macnewbold | jankes: "better" is subjective - most of the best guys I know like plain editors, but if you prefer a more full IDE, netbeans or eclipse might work for you |
| 20:05.02 | jankes | that's cool |
| 20:05.25 | jankes | i want to also know where i can find free resources about php |
| 20:05.27 | jankes | ? |
| 20:06.19 | jankes | i want to take knowledge about php, databases and java |
| 20:07.58 | macnewbold | start with php.net - the manual/tutorial stuff is good |
| 20:08.05 | macnewbold | google will point you to thousands of good places |
| 20:08.41 | unum | I use something ever simpler than notepad++ |
| 20:09.09 | unum | php.net is the best |
| 20:09.20 | unum | my #1 favorite thing about php is php.net |
| 20:11.02 | TuxToaster | the comments on php.net and questions on stackoverflow are probably the two best places when you have problems |
| 20:11.41 | TuxToaster | as far as editors it's really individual preference. I really like Sublime Text |
| 20:12.50 | TuxToaster | Aptana is more of a full IDE, but the beauty of PHP and most web languages is that you just need an editor that can save files and a place to save them to, you don't have to worry about building or compiling anything |
| 20:13.01 | TuxToaster | just save, upload and run |
| 20:13.19 | jankes | ok |
| 20:13.44 | unum | I have a web enviroment on my dev box |
| 20:13.59 | unum | so I can just save and (re)load the page |
| 20:14.22 | unum | and then once it's working I do a git commit and git push(probably a little advanced for someone just starting) |
| 20:14.37 | TuxToaster | yup. that's easier if you do multiple sites and such |
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| 23:37.29 | fungus | plot "primes.txt" using 1:3 with lines |
| 23:37.57 | fungus | oops wrong window |
| 23:50.50 | macnewbold | gnuplot yay! |
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| 23:59.34 | fungus | heh |
| 23:59.39 | fungus | it's a fun tool |