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| 10:23.35 | EvilNo0B | Hi people , i am writing a news script right now and i have a problem , now each article has an image , $send->thumb , now how is that possible to make that thumb always switch float direction like life right (for example instead of <img src=/".$send->thumb."/ style='float:left'> ) i want it auto change the style='float:left' to style='float:right' basically a loop that would do that , for example if the last article has the float set on right than |
| 10:23.35 | EvilNo0B | the next one would be set to left :S i know confusing but i just wanna make sure you understand what im talking about. any ideas? |
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| 15:02.59 | ninnypants | supernovia: you've started quite the thread over on facebook |
| 15:03.09 | supernovia | I know right? |
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| 15:10.47 | ninnypants | supernovia: yeah I saw that at one point it looked like it was going to devolve into a yelling match |
| 15:11.13 | supernovia | Yeah :-p |
| 15:13.09 | ninnypants | SunSparc: agreed I haven't seen or heard from him lately |
| 15:13.26 | ninnypants | SunSparc: how's the roof I saw a photo of you guys cutting bad wood out not too long ago |
| 15:14.04 | SunSparc | The roof is awesome! And it was apparently finished just in time. We have had 3 good storms to test it since it was finished. |
| 15:15.06 | ninnypants | yeah I was worried that you wouldn't get it done before something came up with how the weather was acting after we got the shingles off |
| 15:15.09 | supernovia | Wow, nice |
| 15:15.36 | supernovia | so guys: Orem for Utopia or Provo for Google Fiber? I'm considering buying a place. |
| 15:16.06 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Yeah, I have been happy with it. Thanks again for your help. :) |
| 15:16.26 | SunSparc | supernovia: Hmm... I would not base my choice solely on connectivity. |
| 15:16.53 | ninnypants | np |
| 15:16.58 | SunSparc | But given the choice, I do not know which I would pick. |
| 15:17.02 | supernovia | Not soley, sure, but connectivity is one thing I'm considering |
| 15:17.39 | SunSparc | In Orem those places that have Utopia enjoy it, but it is not everywhere in Orem yet and some areas have no eta. |
| 15:19.28 | SunSparc | Lucky! :) |
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| 15:20.33 | ninnypants | SunSparc: I guess it wasn't on the side that goes to my house though I already have fiber |
| 15:20.59 | SunSparc | I am envious. :) |
| 15:21.04 | supernovia | :D |
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| 15:21.48 | SunSparc | Though I do not work at home currently so I am not as concerned as I have been. |
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| 15:23.52 | ninnypants | SunSparc: I've actually been a little disappointed with veracity. The most highest I can get is 30/30 without bundling phone or tv http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2827941166 |
| 15:23.55 | supernovia | Oh .. speaking of work. Does anyone know of someone looking for a sysadmin? I've got a friend who is really good with Windows / Shortel, etc. |
| 15:24.13 | ninnypants | and rarely do I get that second 30 |
| 15:25.38 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Yeah, I find that a good upstream seems to be hard to get. |
| 15:25.57 | SunSparc | supernovia: I have not heard of any. |
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| 15:27.45 | supernovia | If you do, holla :) |
| 15:27.53 | SunSparc | Roger that :) |
| 15:30.34 | DexterTheDragon | supernovia: Utopia |
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| 15:31.20 | SunSparc | Yeah, as cool as Google Fiber sounds, I think I would lean towared Utopia as well. |
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| 15:39.34 | ninnypants | Yeah I would definitely like to give my money to Xmission but google fiber should be nice |
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| 16:07.03 | redroy | Hey Peeps, been a while… can someone remind me how to change my nick? |
| 16:07.30 | fungus | type: /nick <newnickname> |
| 16:08.03 | redroy | gracias |
| 16:08.20 | fungus | though you'll probably need to change the nick in your IRC client so it will stay changed next time you start your client. |
| 16:08.33 | NinthCrow | got it |
| 16:08.36 | fungus | And, you'll want to register your nick with NickServ |
| 16:08.38 | SunSparc | ~nick NinthCrow |
| 16:08.50 | fungus | ~nickometer NinthCrow |
| 16:08.51 | SunSparc | ~nickometer NinthCrow |
| 16:09.00 | SunSparc | Jinx |
| 16:09.01 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:09.04 | NinthCrow | Yes!! |
| 16:09.52 | ninnypants | ~nickometer |
| 16:10.12 | ninnypants | ahh doesn't target you if you don't specify someone |
| 16:10.22 | ninnypants | ~nickometer ninnypants |
| 16:10.43 | NinthCrow | What? I thought 0% was a little more rare |
| 16:13.18 | SunSparc | 0% is only rare depending on the crowd. :) |
| 16:14.18 | fungus | ~nickometer teh1337h4x0r |
| 16:16.11 | fungus | ~nickometer xX_Emo_nick_Xx |
| 16:18.06 | NinthCrow | excellent |
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| 16:23.51 | NinthCrow | are these the right steps to registering? http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup |
| 16:27.08 | ninnypants | NinthCrow: yep |
| 16:33.28 | fungus | NinthCrow, though right now will not work, since there is an outage in freenode services, including NickServ. |
| 16:34.28 | NinthCrow | Oh, good to know… thought I was doing something wrong |
| 16:35.08 | fungus | heh, nope. just poor timing. I've never seen an outage of services like this before. |
| 16:36.44 | SunSparc | Yeh, today is bad. |
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| 16:39.31 | fungus | look, he's back. Try it now. |
| 16:40.06 | fungus | might be slow at first though. |
| 16:40.25 | herlo | funny how ChanServ is below carmony |
| 16:40.36 | carmony | haha |
| 16:40.55 | carmony | has my ZNC been connecting & disconnecting regularly still? |
| 16:41.03 | josephscott | $8ball alphabetical order? |
| 16:41.04 | raifbot | josephscott - Ask again later. |
| 16:41.13 | herlo | carmony: I don't know |
| 16:41.19 | josephscott | $suggest how to |
| 16:41.20 | raifbot | josephscott suggestions for 'how to' : how to tie a tie, how to boil eggs, how to take a screenshot on a mac, how to tie a bow tie, how to make french toast, how to cut a mango, how to write a cover letter, how to get rid of ants, how to make jello shots, how to lose weight |
| 16:41.29 | ninnypants | carmony: I haven't noticed it if it has |
| 16:48.17 | NinthCrow | Well I'm definitely not receiving any emails for verification… I'll just wait a few. |
| 16:50.00 | fungus | NinthCrow, lol, apparently they are still having issues. |
| 16:50.13 | fungus | ~ChanServ-- |
| 16:51.51 | NinthCrow | I didn't even know you could register your nick, but now that I can't I feel like everyone is out to impersonate me ;) |
| 16:52.34 | NinthCrow | LOL |
| 16:53.07 | Skinner | fungus: you cant impersonate me haha! |
| 16:55.23 | Skinner_ | Are you sure? |
| 16:55.51 | fungus | Maybe....? |
| 16:56.00 | SunSparc | Sneaky |
| 16:56.05 | fungus | lol |
| 16:56.11 | Skinner | lol |
| 16:56.21 | SunSparc | Freaky Friday |
| 16:56.27 | Skinner | ok, I'm done, this feels dirty now. :) |
| 16:56.29 | SunSparc | What will you do with your alternate body? |
| 16:56.49 | skinner | :) |
| 16:57.00 | fungus | ahh, better. Back in my own skin. |
| 16:57.03 | skinner | Same |
| 16:57.11 | skinner | I felt too.....tall. |
| 16:57.19 | littleSkinner | deal with it Ted |
| 16:57.44 | skinner | Couldn't get used to the hair. |
| 16:57.53 | josephscott | I don't recall fungus being all that tall :-) |
| 16:58.07 | skinner | I think he's taller than me |
| 16:58.19 | skinner | Maybe it's that you don't remember me being short? |
| 16:58.22 | skinner | :) |
| 16:58.38 | skinner | fungus: How tall are you? |
| 17:01.31 | SunSparc | fungus is still recovering from being skinner. |
| 17:01.40 | skinner | lol |
| 17:02.06 | skinner | I don't blame him. It takes a while getting used to having 4 kids under the age of 6. |
| 17:02.27 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:02.42 | skinner | I'm not sure I'm used to it :p |
| 17:03.01 | SunSparc | That is a pretty close gap. Twins? |
| 17:03.08 | skinner | nope |
| 17:03.24 | SunSparc | Impressive |
| 17:03.26 | skinner | 5 yrs, 3 years, almost 2 years and 3 months |
| 17:04.20 | skinner | first three are 2 years apart within a month. Last two are 18 months apart. |
| 17:04.33 | skinner | I'm not sure how I'm going to handle high school with these kids.... :) |
| 17:04.46 | skinner | It'll be fun tho |
| 17:05.22 | herlo | skinner: crazy person! |
| 17:05.30 | skinner | I know |
| 17:05.36 | SunSparc | hah |
| 17:06.22 | skinner | ~skinner all the kids |
| 17:06.22 | infobot | ACTION buries all the kids in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH! |
| 17:06.34 | skinner | There. Now they are clean for a moment. |
| 17:07.11 | NinthCrow | … I'm 33 and have 3 teenagers |
| 17:07.17 | NinthCrow | :D |
| 17:07.38 | skinner | dang |
| 17:08.22 | skinner | Triplets? |
| 17:08.34 | skinner | Or started the family early? |
| 17:08.52 | NinthCrow | Eary… I was 17 |
| 17:08.56 | NinthCrow | *early |
| 17:10.37 | NinthCrow | Just celebrated our 16th anniversary… 5 kids total |
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| 17:12.48 | skinner | congrats! |
| 17:12.55 | skinner | 16 years wow :) |
| 17:13.11 | skinner | I'm coming up on my 8th |
| 17:13.32 | NinthCrow | Thanks :) |
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| 17:24.24 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 17:24.24 | raifbot | eats josephscott and falls over dead. |
| 17:29.48 | josephscott | $suggest can I eat |
| 17:29.49 | raifbot | josephscott suggestions for 'can I eat' : can i eat shrimp while pregnant, can i eat my period, can i eat lobster while pregnant, can i eat fish while pregnant, can i eat calamari while pregnant, can i eat scallops while pregnant, can i eat mango skin, can i eat sushi while pregnant, can i eat too much protein, can i eat subway while pregnant |
| 17:31.19 | SunSparc | Umm.. |
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| 17:41.16 | josephscott | $8ball were those the best suggestions you had? |
| 17:41.16 | raifbot | josephscott - My reply is no. |
| 17:42.39 | fungus | "can i eat my period"??? Is that what I think it is? |
| 17:43.54 | fungus | $suggest should i |
| 17:43.54 | raifbot | fungus suggestions for 'should i ' : should i stay or should i go lyrics, should i refinance, should i go to law school, should i buy a house, should i upgrade to windows 8, should i get married, should i quit my job, should i pop a blister, should i get a tattoo, should i take creatine |
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| 17:45.19 | josephscott | $8ball should I upgrade to Windows 8? |
| 17:45.34 | raifbot | josephscott - It is decidedly so. |
| 17:45.44 | fungus | lol, he had to think about that one. |
| 17:46.09 | josephscott | $8ball are you sure? |
| 17:46.10 | raifbot | josephscott - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 17:46.22 | josephscott | $8ball on my macbook air? |
| 17:46.22 | raifbot | josephscott - Ask again later. |
| 17:46.34 | josephscott | $suggest what would |
| 17:46.34 | raifbot | josephscott suggestions for 'what would' : what would ryan lochte do, what would you do, what would you do lyrics, what would you do for a klondike bar, what would tyler durden do, what would brian boitano do, what would you do city high, what would i look like with short hair, what would jesus do, what would lochte do |
| 17:47.38 | fungus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNJmfuEWR8w |
| 17:48.33 | josephscott | what would i look like with short hair? |
| 17:50.12 | skinner | $suggest how do |
| 17:50.12 | raifbot | skinner suggestions for 'how do' : how do you take a screenshot on a mac, how does paypal work, how does twitter work, how do tornadoes form, how do you get pink eye, how do you get mono, how do birds mate, how do i love thee, how does plan b work, how do you get herpes |
| 17:51.36 | fungus | pink eye, mono, herpes? lol |
| 17:53.48 | josephscott | thank you google |
| 17:54.02 | skinner | $suggest why does fungus |
| 17:54.15 | raifbot | skinner suggestions for 'why does fungus' : why does fungus itch, why does fungus grow, why does fungus grow on trees, why does fungus grow on toenails, why does fungus grow on mulch, why does fungus grow on food, why does fungus grow on skin, why does fungus itch at night, why does fungus grow on bread, why does fungus grow in a circle |
| 17:54.31 | skinner | fungus: apparently you grow on things |
| 17:54.36 | fungus | yup |
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| 17:54.53 | skinner | Do you itch at night? |
| 17:55.07 | herlo | always |
| 17:55.15 | skinner | fungus: What is it like to grow in a circle? |
| 17:55.17 | herlo | ummm..... I mean..... nooooooo..... |
| 17:55.18 | skinner | :) |
| 17:56.01 | josephscott | $suggest what grows in a |
| 17:56.01 | raifbot | josephscott suggestions for 'what grows in a' : what grows in acidic soil, what grows in a garden, what grows in arkansas, what grows in antarctica, what grows in arizona, what grows in a desert, what grows in a rainforest, what grows in a chia pet, what grows in a pod, what grows in an orchard |
| 17:56.06 | fungus | $suggest how does skinner |
| 17:56.06 | raifbot | fungus suggestions for 'how does skinner' : how does skinner define emotion, how does skinner define freedom, how does skinner influence current practice, how does skinner define motivation, how does skinner define learning, how does skinner characterize our freedom, how does skinner's box work, how does skinner define personality, how does skinner believe we learn, how does skinner describes a repertoire of behavior |
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| 17:59.59 | skinner | $suggest why did josephscott leave us |
| 17:59.59 | raifbot | skinner sorry, couldn't find any suggestions |
| 18:00.53 | skinner | $suggest how to suggest in irc |
| 18:00.53 | raifbot | skinner sorry, couldn't find any suggestions |
| 18:02.05 | skinner | $suggest where to buy |
| 18:02.06 | raifbot | skinner suggestions for 'where to buy' : where to buy stamps, where to buy dry ice, where to buy garcinia cambogia, where to buy coconut oil, where to buy essential oils, where to buy toms, where to buy amazon gift cards, where to buy plasti dip, where to buy bitcoins, where to buy cards against humanity |
| 18:07.01 | itimber | hey guys |
| 18:07.05 | fungus | $suggest how do I get rid of |
| 18:07.05 | raifbot | fungus suggestions for 'how do I get rid of' : how do i get rid of ants, how do i get rid of bed bugs, how do i get rid of gnats, how do i get rid of stretch marks, how do i get rid of blackheads, how do i get rid of fruit flies, how do i get rid of belly fat, how do i get rid of carpenter bees, how do i get rid of acne, how do i get rid of fleas |
| 18:07.31 | itimber | I'm curious if anyone has worked in Visual C# |
| 18:07.39 | itimber | I've got a few questions |
| 18:09.18 | fungus | let me guess: your first question: WTF? |
| 18:09.20 | fungus | :)\ |
| 18:11.50 | itimber | haha |
| 18:11.51 | itimber | yes |
| 18:11.59 | itimber | :) |
| 18:15.44 | romanovic | itimber: ask away |
| 18:19.58 | itimber | I've got the opportunity to pickup a large project, but it's in Visual C#. I'm wondering what the main speedbumps would be. I'm guessing I should turn this project down. |
| 18:21.11 | itimber | I've looked at a little of the syntax, and it looks somewhat straightforward |
| 18:21.45 | itimber | There's the sticker shock on the IDE, and the fact that the prices have such a great range for what seems like the same product. |
| 18:22.07 | itimber | $699 - $13,299 |
| 18:22.18 | itimber | that's quite a range |
| 18:23.21 | itimber | this has the potential to be a six figure string of projects though, so I'm reluctant to turn it down just on M$ bias |
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| 18:41.20 | romanovic | itimber: yeah, Visual Studio's expensive... < $500 on amazon right now though |
| 18:42.18 | itimber | well, I wouldn't mind spending $500 to get the project |
| 18:42.36 | itimber | and I wouldn't mind reading a C# book to learn the particulars. |
| 18:43.09 | itimber | after those two, I'm wondering if there's more issues that will need to be resolved. |
| 18:43.46 | itimber | the client has his own server, and I've had to do PHP on IIS before. |
| 18:43.52 | itimber | not fun, but tolerable |
| 18:43.59 | romanovic | I recently moved from python/php to C# for my day job, and I really didn't experience many hiccups |
| 18:44.04 | itimber | I'm guessing this is running in IIS |
| 18:44.17 | itimber | gotcha |
| 18:44.47 | itimber | would that $500 IDE take care of everything I'd need? and if so, why is there one for $13000? |
| 18:44.52 | itimber | that's a crazy jump |
| 18:45.10 | romanovic | the major inconveniences I experienced were 1. the organic community support just isn't the same for C#, compared to open platforms, but there were just enough forums and StackOverflow answers to get myself educated |
| 18:45.35 | unum | I'm taking the next two days off, it's hard to wait for this day to be over |
| 18:46.48 | romanovic | 2. most C#/MS developers seem to be 15 years behind in terms of Source Control, for some reason. I deal with TFS when I have to, but I always check out my projects with git-tfs so I can use all the git wonderfulness, guerilla-style |
| 18:47.36 | itimber | gotcha |
| 18:47.46 | romanovic | itimber: if you aren't working with a lot of other developers who insist on using all the integrated team functionality, you probably are ok with just the basic Pro version |
| 18:48.11 | mgeary | http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2013/07/secret-government/print <-- great article on the whole NSA/FISA courts, etc. kerfuffle |
| 18:48.17 | itimber | I see…. yeah I think it would be just me |
| 18:49.05 | itimber | sounds like their last dev company was outsourced overseas and is no more |
| 18:55.32 | itimber | Is the syntax the same between Visual C# and regular C#? |
| 18:59.17 | unum | I thought visual c# was c# |
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| 19:19.28 | SunSparc | Nevermind |
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| 19:26.48 | mj-dogpaddle | any UPS gurus in the house |
| 19:27.56 | SunSparc | mj-dogpaddle!!! You live! |
| 19:28.15 | mj-dogpaddle | live is a strong word |
| 19:28.21 | mj-dogpaddle | let's use "survive" |
| 19:28.22 | unum | I managed to get mine set up so I can visit their web page |
| 19:28.25 | unum | how's that for guru? |
| 19:28.58 | mj-dogpaddle | 2 power outages in PE in 3 days, multiple hours, servers all brought back up, but everything is skitish |
| 19:29.11 | mj-dogpaddle | working on UPS battery life |
| 19:29.13 | mj-dogpaddle | :( |
| 19:29.22 | unum | we had a pretty bad time last year |
| 19:29.31 | unum | we make most of our money in a three month period |
| 19:29.39 | unum | murray power suddenly developed some issues |
| 19:29.46 | unum | we eventually leased a generator |
| 19:29.56 | unum | we bought new batteries first |
| 19:30.06 | unum | but the style of ups we are using only lasts about half an hour |
| 19:30.26 | unum | I have them all with administration cards so I can check up on their supposed battery life through the network |
| 19:30.50 | SunSparc | mj-dogpaddle: pm |
| 19:31.46 | SunSparc | mj-dogpaddle: There have been some UPS discussions on Plug. |
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| 19:35.48 | fungus | UPS admin cards are teh awesome sauce |
| 19:36.32 | fungus | I get email alerts for outages, battery failures, self-tests, etc. |
| 19:37.48 | fungus | mj-dogpaddle, it all comes down to how serious an outage is. are those multiple hours valuable enough to buy a generator and power transfer switch? |
| 19:41.16 | fungus | or only valuable enough for a UPS that lasts long enough for you to gracefully shutdown enough servers to prevent corruption (eg. database servers) |
| 19:41.34 | mj-dogpaddle | you and me both, bro |
| 19:42.32 | mj-dogpaddle | oh i see what's going, on hang on |
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| 21:54.24 | mj-treadingh20 | hey fungus or herlo, i think i just need a keyword to look up on this |
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| 21:55.20 | mj-treadingh20 | i've got several UPSs (smart-ups 3000xl - all the same model though i placed 1 2 yrs ago, the others seem to be 5yrs old {before i hire}) |
| 21:55.49 | mj-treadingh20 | so ups #1 is at a 31.2% load and it estimates that it can run 10 minutes |
| 21:56.35 | mj-treadingh20 | so what I want to know is, brand new, what should this be able to do? |
| 21:56.42 | mj-treadingh20 | this link shows what i think i need |
| 21:56.45 | mj-treadingh20 | http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SUA3000RMXL3U&tab=models |
| 21:56.59 | mj-treadingh20 | about half way down, it says batteries and runtime |
| 21:57.30 | mj-treadingh20 | so if i understand this right, i'm looking at slope A (i've got no backup batteries beyond the ups) |
| 21:57.52 | peno | i bought some of those for the previous gig when they lost the main ups for the building |
| 21:58.09 | mj-treadingh20 | they've been good :) |
| 21:58.31 | peno | they were purely temporary while the electrician cut over to the new ups |
| 21:58.54 | mj-treadingh20 | so the one i placed 2yrs ago, it's at 43% load and it says 45 minutes |
| 21:58.56 | peno | ended up moving a couple of them into other suites that we had that weren't on ups. |
| 21:59.44 | mj-treadingh20 | so is it fair to say that 43% load is the same amount of wattage between the various UPS |
| 22:00.14 | mj-treadingh20 | or is 43% relative to the amount the batteries can sustain? |
| 22:01.43 | peno | load should relate to the watts |
| 22:01.54 | mj-treadingh20 | oh wait, i just found this - The load on the UPS from its supported equipment, as a percentage of the total rated load capacity. |
| 22:02.42 | mj-treadingh20 | k, so that makes sense, related to wattage |
| 22:02.56 | peno | the lcd is a guesstimate, you'd need to use something like a kill-a-wat to get a better idea of the actual power draw |
| 22:03.26 | mj-treadingh20 | i've been thinking about getting a kill-a-watt |
| 22:18.07 | unum | mj-treadingh20: back when I have my problems I was told you should replace your batteries every three years |
| 22:18.25 | unum | I get about half an hour out of my new batteries |
| 22:18.29 | unum | I think I have similiar load |
| 22:22.12 | mj-treadingh20 | seems like it should be about 45 minutes |
| 22:22.20 | mj-treadingh20 | that's what i recall brand new was |
| 22:35.19 | fungus | it's better to replace the batteries early, than to discover they are dead during an outage. |
| 22:36.18 | fungus | I say that now, even though I have a branch in Orem whose batteries are now dead. :( |
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