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| 16:30.11 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 16:30.11 | infobot | beats UtahDave to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 16:31.31 | Guest63635 | Hey guys! Anyone looking for a true webmaster! Someone who is good at everything web? Pro design, JQuery, CSS, XHTML, PHP, MySQL, AS3, Flex, Apache, IIS for a low low price of 60K. 10 years experience. Also have over 4 years experience as SEO specialist. |
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| 16:32.14 | JacobEdmondKerr | Damn how do I set my nick. |
| 16:32.29 | herlo | JacobEdmondKerr: /nick <newnick> |
| 16:32.37 | JacobEdmondKerr | permanently? |
| 16:33.01 | JacobEdmondKerr | I did that last time I was here and I just joined as Guest63635 :'( |
| 16:34.54 | ninnypants | JacobEdmondKerr: what client are you using? |
| 16:35.00 | JacobEdmondKerr | XChat |
| 16:35.12 | ninnypants | you probably need to set your nick in settings |
| 16:35.19 | JacobEdmondKerr | 2.8.7e |
| 16:35.24 | JacobEdmondKerr | K. |
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| 16:53.58 | josephscott | ninnypants: what is the twitter account for wpslc.com? |
| 16:54.12 | ninnypants | @wpmeetupslc |
| 16:54.13 | romanovic | JacobEdmondKerr: where are you looking? Utah County? SL? |
| 16:54.20 | JacobEdmondKerr | SLC |
| 16:54.31 | josephscott | should link to that on the site some where |
| 16:55.04 | ninnypants | yeah I was realizing it wasn't linked anywhere when I was posting things yesterday |
| 16:55.09 | josephscott | ninnypants: I need a tweet about tomorrows meeting :-) |
| 16:55.17 | josephscott | I was looking to retweet it |
| 16:55.32 | ninnypants | josephscott: did jetpack not publicize it? |
| 16:55.35 | herlo | JacobEdmondKerr: you need to register your nick with nickserv |
| 16:55.40 | josephscott | https://twitter.com/wpmeetupslc |
| 16:55.47 | herlo | and set it in your settings in xchat. It's pretty easy to do. |
| 16:56.11 | JacobEdmondKerr | Oh yeah I did that once before awhile ago with a dif machine but had forgot this time around. Thanks for the reminder :) |
| 16:56.13 | ninnypants | josephscott: ok give me a few |
| 16:56.17 | herlo | every time you come in, it will do an identify with nickserv |
| 16:56.23 | herlo | or you will need to do it manually |
| 16:56.32 | herlo | np |
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| 16:58.09 | romanovic | JacobEdmondKerr: my employer is in need of several new people, though more on the dev side. They're considering anyone with web or desktop experience, if you are interested in wearing your developer hat. |
| 16:58.10 | JacobEdmondKerr | Sweet I just registered my nick :) |
| 16:58.18 | romanovic | feel free to pm if you want any more details |
| 16:58.27 | JacobEdmondKerr | Sweet sounds fun! |
| 16:59.01 | TuxToaster | romanovic: there's a hat for that? |
| 16:59.28 | JacobEdmondKerr | romanovic: that's all I have been doing for the past 5 years is mainly dev work. |
| 16:59.33 | ninnypants | josephscott: ok you should have something to RT |
| 16:59.41 | JacobEdmondKerr | PHP / MySQL |
| 16:59.44 | josephscott | cool, thanks |
| 16:59.59 | JacobEdmondKerr | But I also do a lot of web work as well. |
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| 17:32.26 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 17:32.26 | raifbot | does a little 'dpkg -P DexterTheDragon' action. |
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| 18:28.32 | mj-lifeboat | wow |
| 18:28.40 | mj-lifeboat | now i'm sad i asked ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems |
| 18:32.32 | TuxToaster | ha |
| 18:32.55 | mj-lifeboat | i've got to admit, i just punted and went ext4 |
| 18:33.11 | TuxToaster | yeah ext3 or 4 is fairly safe |
| 18:33.22 | mj-lifeboat | it's for an svn repository |
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| 19:08.05 | mj-lifeboat | anybody here run an svn server? |
| 19:10.11 | mj-lifeboat | i'm trying to determine, but it seems like svn over ssh is going to be faster than https |
| 19:13.37 | unum | I've always done svn over ssh |
| 19:14.09 | unum | if you do https you have to set up webdav |
| 19:14.30 | unum | which isn't that hard, but if you're ok giving users a system account may as well use ssh since it's already set up |
| 19:14.45 | mj-lifeboat | unum, have you found svn+ssh to be faster? |
| 19:15.18 | unum | it's been too long since I've used webdav to make a comparison |
| 19:15.27 | unum | it's definatly faster to set up :) |
| 19:24.27 | mj-lifeboat | hey herlo, you around? |
| 19:25.58 | mj-lifeboat | so here is my question, if i'm setting up svn over ssh and I want them to be able to use the svn server, but not log into the shell, can i just put the shell to /bin/false |
| 19:26.17 | mj-lifeboat | or will that b0rk things? am i too paranoid? need to relax? or is good security practice? |
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| 19:30.28 | unum | I suspect that will bork things |
| 19:30.35 | DexterTheDragon | mj-lifeboat: https://zeroset.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/svn-over-ssh-with-multiple-svn-users-and-a-single-unix-account-without-shell-access/ |
| 19:30.50 | unum | there we go |
| 19:30.57 | mj-lifeboat | thx DtD! |
| 19:31.05 | mj-lifeboat | ~DtD++ |
| 19:33.31 | DexterTheDragon | mj-lifeboat: svnserve can also run as a daemon on port 3690 and you access it with svn:// if you don't need the added security of ssh. depends on your setup |
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| 19:33.59 | mj-lifeboat | the server is amazon, so i'd better secure the channel |
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| 20:08.11 | herlo | mj-lifeboat: I'm here now |
| 20:09.00 | herlo | but that won't work with svn too well |
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| 20:30.40 | hhatfield | To anyone interested in a Responsive Web Design workshop, we're (Deseret Digital Media) hosting one at the Little America on 29 July. It includes lunch and will be taught by Ben Callahan. $25. Details at http://ddmrwd.eventbrite.com. |
| 20:32.27 | mgeary | looks good |
| 20:32.35 | mgeary | might drag some coworkers to that... |
| 20:52.16 | macnewbold1 | mj-lifeboat: +1 for svn+ssh |
| 20:53.05 | macnewbold | mj-lifeboat: also +1 for herlo's suggestion - git is pretty awesome too |
| 20:55.09 | herlo | macnewbold: I never thought you would say that. :) |
| 20:56.07 | mj-lifeboat | well, i got to be honest, i never used a version control system, and now that i've setup a server, i'm at a bit of a loss to tell if it works :( |
| 20:56.08 | mj-lifeboat | sigh |
| 20:56.22 | herlo | mj-lifeboat: fun |
| 20:56.40 | mj-lifeboat | yeah, i'm just all about the old school zips with a date/time stamp |
| 20:57.02 | herlo | and pms mj-lifeboat for his actual fees! :D |
| 20:58.57 | ninnypants | I'm having some issues with mod_rewrite for some reason dev.site.com/path/ turns into site.compath/ http://pastebin.com/pmGd5cqe |
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| 21:13.13 | unum | do you have a rewrite in the .htaccess and one in the httpd.conf |
| 21:14.38 | ninnypants | unum: no just in htaccess |
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| 21:23.21 | ninnypants | doesn't seem to actually be mod_rewrite the rewrite works fine for other pages just not this one and I get the correct page when I pull the html with curl |
| 21:23.54 | TuxToaster | herlo: macnewbold has converted |
| 21:24.32 | herlo | TuxToaster: it's a miracle! |
| 21:24.52 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: converted to what? |
| 21:25.19 | TuxToaster | git |
| 21:26.01 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: oh cool if you didn't answer soon enough I was going to assume paganism and congratulate him on twitter |
| 21:26.27 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:40.32 | ninnypants | https://www.google.com/search?q=%22at+*+we%27re+passionate+about+*%22&n=100 |
| 21:41.35 | josephscott | TuxToaster: looks like you guys have a new CTO over there |
| 21:41.57 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 21:43.23 | josephscott | I got an email from the guy who replaced him at FamilySearch, which made me go look at what happened |
| 21:44.06 | josephscott | TuxToaster: any big changes coming in then? Still lots of PHP and JavaScript? |
| 21:45.48 | TuxToaster | right now there's still a lot going on with JS based apps, trying to shift to more single-page stuff and consume services on the backend |
| 21:45.57 | TuxToaster | not as much PHP as .NET there though. |
| 21:47.46 | josephscott | .Net, fun ;-) |
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| 21:56.27 | TuxToaster | you and I have very different ideas of fun, apparently. :P |
| 21:59.41 | mgeary | carmony: ping |
| 22:22.07 | stevecoug | Notice the article about MySQL forks: http://www.phparch.com/magazine/2013-2/june/ |
| 22:25.35 | jsmith | Why fork MySQL when you can just use PostgreSQL instead? |
| 22:26.55 | herlo | jsmith: w00t! |
| 22:26.59 | herlo | no need to duck or hide |
| 22:27.17 | herlo | albeit, I only use postgresql very minimally :( |
| 22:27.36 | jsmith | herlo: I know, you talk the talk though, and that's halfway towards walking the walk :-p |
| 22:28.38 | herlo | heh |
| 22:28.54 | herlo | jsmith: I have a few postgresql servers, we just don't use them at the dayjob |
| 22:31.19 | jsmith | herlo: Sounds like a personal problem to me :-p |
| 22:31.35 | herlo | jsmith: well, I really like working for The Linux Foundation |
| 22:31.52 | jsmith | herlo: Glad to hear it -- you get your project launched? |
| 22:31.52 | tierra | would be awesome if one of these days WordPress used a real DB abstraction layer that supported more than just MySQL, heh |
| 22:31.57 | herlo | so the problem isn't one of employment, just with the project |
| 22:32.05 | jsmith | tierra: AMEN, BROTHER! |
| 22:32.05 | herlo | jsmith: yes, went of really well |
| 22:32.10 | jsmith | herlo: I know, I'm pulling your leg |
| 22:32.19 | herlo | jsmith: I am aware :) |
| 22:32.27 | jsmith | tierra: I'd be happy to help write code to make that happen :-p |
| 22:32.53 | herlo | tierra: don't believe jsmith, he only knows how to write code for asterisk :) |
| 22:33.05 | tierra | oh, no shortage of devs that are willing... just a shortage of devs with commit that care :/ |
| 22:33.13 | herlo | heh |
| 22:33.27 | jsmith | tierra: What, the elimination of php-mysql in 5.5 doesn't help? |
| 22:33.51 | jsmith | tierra: (and yes, sadly I'm aware of the conversation on the wp-hackers list) |
| 22:33.58 | tierra | na, they're just doing a flat replacement to PDO (with mysqli backup) |
| 22:35.37 | tierra | http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/21663 |
| 22:35.50 | tierra | one of my more favorite tickets |
| 22:37.06 | jsmith | PDO is a step in the right direction, right? |
| 22:37.19 | tierra | yeah, it is |
| 22:38.01 | josephscott | in the past people have written code to support PG in WP, way back in the day |
| 22:38.10 | josephscott | but never had enough steam to go any where |
| 22:42.04 | TuxToaster | jsmith: so what do you do with postgres when you have a box with limited memory (1GB or less) and you need to run a small db server on it that's not going to see a lot of load? |
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| 23:01.24 | carmony | mgeary: very late pong |
| 23:06.03 | tierra | TuxToaster: this seems to suggest Pg can be configured to work fine even with just 128MB of ram: http://postgresql.1045698.n5.nabble.com/Pg-8-3-tuning-recommendations-for-embedded-low-memory-device-for-OLPC-td1905606.html |
| 23:07.12 | TuxToaster | I'll have to play with it some more |
| 23:08.02 | TuxToaster | I installed it recently on a shared host that's been running mysql for years with a small but decent load (mostly scripts that are pulling down and caching information from other tools, and a web app with a few dozen users at most) |
| 23:08.45 | TuxToaster | but an error logging tool I was installing recommended PG over anything else and I figured it'd be very minimal load so it wouldn't hurt, but it caused a few hours of grief with shared memory |
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